This is the longest amount of time that's ever elapsed
between albums for you. What took so long?
You know, that didn't occur to me until recently. I don't know if I
was just fed up with it all or what, but I didn't really feel
compelled to run out and do another record. I thought, "I am going
to take my time." Then someone told me the other day that it's been
three years.
It's actually been four years.
Has it been? Four years? That's a long time. I am surprised that I
waited that long. But I honestly didn't even notice the time going
by. And it didn't take long to make the record, just a few months.
I guess I was touring and I took my time writing.
The songs on the album all seem to have similar themes
about drifting lost in the world and looking for something solid to
hold on to.
What is that song? It's got the line "It's hard to say who you are
these days, but you run on anyway, don't you?" ["Saving Grace"] And
that's kind of how I see these times. There are a lot of people who
aren't sure who they are anymore, so they're just trying to keep
their head above water because things are moving really fast these
days. There is a lot of information flying around and a lot of
people staring into their palms. [Pause] I don't know why
I took so long [to make this album]. That really staggers me that
it took so long.
It seems like you have made a comfortable life for
yourself with your family in Malibu, but when I heard the record, I
heard loneliness. Where does that come from?
It wouldn't have been a very good record if I just sat back and
wrote about how happy I was. But I am pretty happy these days. I've
gone through the dark tunnel and come out the other end in a lot of
ways. I have a good family, my kids are doing well, and I have a
young boy who just turned thirteen, and that's a whole movie on its
own. I never really had any real family. My mom died when I was
quite young, and my dad was never around much. And so when I
married Dana, she and her mom and her brother lived down here, and
they kind of adopted me into their family. Actually, her mom is one
of my main assistants. She runs the whole estate. So I feel good
having that kind of bond with a family.
I remember just before you moved out here, people were
worried about you because you had split up with your wife and were
living in a shack somewhere.
Yeah, I was living in a pretty rundown shack. I didn't mind it. It
was in a part of the Pacific Palisades, in the woods. And I was
living back there and had chickens and all kinds of shit. In some
places, you could actually see the daylight coming through the
walls of the cabin. But it was my bachelor pad, you know. I had a
big adjustment to make, and maybe they were right to be worried
about me. I had a lot of free time in that period, and it wasn't
the best period in my life. But I am through that. I came out the
good side.
What was the wake-up call that made you clean
up?
Oh, yeah, well, you know, it was "One of us is dead." It's like,
"Shit." Yeah, that's a big wake-up call. I've lived life pretty
hard, I took an adult portion of life and squeezed it into a very
short amount of time when I was younger. We lived hard, we didn't
sleep much, we traveled all the time. In this job, you don't
realize that you're getting older. Then probably around the time I
got married again, I said, "I am going to try and act my age now."
I am still coming to terms with it a little bit, but it's not
bad.
The thing that's tough about it is you realize you have a limited amount of time left. That's the first time that ever dawned on me: "Oh, shit, you're going to run out of time." That's one of the reasons I don't want to spend the rest of my life touring -- I have done it. You can do that and then look up one day, and a lot of your life has gone by, and all you did was go around doing rock & roll shows.
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