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11/9/09, 12:20 pm EST

Florida voters will soon be able to choose among Democratic, Republican and Tea Party candidates.


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Judith | 11/9/2009, 1:32 pm EST

As part of the concept of choice, let us not forget this momentous day when 20 years ago the Berlin wall fell and communism in Eastern Europe was replaced by democracy.

ray | 11/9/2009, 8:54 pm EST

Judith, it was a great day, but 20 years later we are less free here and have an enemy thats harder to defeat than comunisum was.

lordbean | 11/10/2009, 7:54 am EST

Scary.

Verbal Lubricant | 11/10/2009, 10:38 am EST

Will they have Scratch N Sniff Ballots?

Anonymous | 11/10/2009, 11:17 am EST

Jed Clampett

This is a sign of divisiveness among the pigs.

Eventually, the pigs enslave all the animals in the ‘Animal Farm’, use them for their own profit, comfort and pursuit of happiness. Eventually, they send the animals off to the butchers one by one until there are no animals to make the farm a productive place.
Once the humans recognize this and they no longer have an economic use for the pigs, they are slaughtered as well.
That’s the lesson of ‘Animal Farm’ that everyone chooses to ignore.
If the animals represent a human society, what do the humans represent?

Farmer John | 11/10/2009, 12:02 pm EST

HUH?

Anonymous | 11/10/2009, 12:58 pm EST

Farmer John has never read “Animal Farm” by George Orwell… shouldn’t that be required reading in High School or even Middle School along with “1984″?

Soothsayer | 11/10/2009, 3:10 pm EST

Anyone else find it interesting that the the six richest Senators are all Democrats? But remember they are the party of the “little guy” HA HA

Barack Hasan Obiden | 11/10/2009, 6:09 pm EST

Animal Farm is one of those books that is real meaningful when you’re 13 years old, sorta like To Kill a Mockingbird. It’s a dead giveaway of what sort of intelect we’re dealing with when it is referenced in a post. Maybe a notch above a Matrix reference.

Coach | 11/10/2009, 6:41 pm EST

RE:

Barack Hasan Obiden | 11/10/2009, 6:09 pm EST

George VirginiaTech CheneyBush

dotgov | 11/10/2009, 7:04 pm EST

don’t get the name games…

Anyway, has anyone seen that petition going around fb to get Reid to strip Lieberman of his chairmanship if he helps block a healthcare bill? Word is that the GOP put this out to push the Dems. to the left in advance of the 2010 elections. Reid is up for reelection and stands to go down if he appears too liberal. Best he can hope for is a chance to vote on a bill sans a public option. In other words, he needs Lieberman to block a public option containing bill.

Anonymous | 11/10/2009, 7:18 pm EST

hey, their logo can be a white starred pair of blue trucknuts. :D

Sad that only American 13 yo can even hope to understand the message of Animal Farm…. can’t make chickens understand much though, they just bleat what they hear and peck the ground for crumbs and insects

Anonymous | 11/11/2009, 2:00 pm EST

Jed Clampett

Lieberman needs to be stripped of all his privileges anyway, perhaps even his seat, he’s much more concerned with profits than people.

Did anyone see the analysis of the House bill that was done on democracy now this morning? Sad, but they keep screwing the animals while the hogs keep getting fattened up.
At some point the animals have to loose their fear of the pigs and dogs, otherwise it’s off to the slaughterhouse.

Bobby Johns | 11/11/2009, 2:11 pm EST

I have to agree with Barack. The Animal Farm references have to go. Also, the anonymous guy seems to be referring to the GOP as the pigs, but the Dems are the ones in power. Doesn’t make sense. I have to disagree that this represents a deep rift in the GOP. This is a sign that there is a common set of priorities that is motivating greater political participation by a certain segment of the population. By the time 2010 and 2012 come around we are going to see a revved up Republican party that will be able to put forward a clear a distinct message. Whether this appeals to moderate voters like me and probably many of you is always going to be the question, but based on the polling data, I would have to say that a lot of people are going to desert Obama simply because the energy is with the other party.

Steve | 11/11/2009, 6:34 pm EST

Bobby Johns: “This is a sign that there is a common set of priorities that is motivating greater political participation by a certain segment of the population.”

To come to that convolution, you need to first believe that these new ‘tea partiers’ didn’t vote last election. There’s no proof of that, and it would be safe to assume that they all voted McCain.

“By the time 2010 and 2012 come around we are going to see a revved up Republican party that will be able to put forward a clear a distinct message.”

First of all, 2010 is less than two months away. Secondly, what is that message going to be? If they DON’T move more back to the center, they’re going to be stuck in the 20% electoral area. But, moving to the center means accepting abortion as a constitutional right. Illegal immigration needs to be more than just a ‘mexican border’ issue. And, let’s not forget health care and environment. Do you think the republicans, or even the teabaggers, are going to move to get off oil and accept single-payer health?

Me? I think the republicans are in a world of hurt unless the democrats start eating themselves with the kind of infighting that Clinton let go on. Obama isn’t allowing that, even though the press is trying to stir it up. Everything so far has been crap throw against the wall, and none of it has stuck.

Anonymous | 11/11/2009, 7:24 pm EST

I think they are very apropos, considering the current state of affairs; you see, the dogs are poorly trained and totally wild, barking and biting any of the other animals when they get out of line, including the little ones. In fact, the police and military no longer have a mind of their own, they just follow any commands, that is how they are trained, just follow orders and do your job, ‘it’s not your job to think maggot’. Even a cra.ck he.ad can sick a dog on another cra.ck he.ad, all it takes is a lie and the dog that wants to believe it so he can make money off the fines.

The workers, the horse, after being worked to death and into poverty, and faithfully doing their job for the benefit of the community, is abandoned and led to his death. His job shipped out to other farms where the horses are treated worse(China and India). The health care system takes the place of butchers or vultures these days, hovering over the carcass waiting to take their piece.
What did they have him working on? A stupid, useless project designed to keep them distracted from the things that truly mattered, providing food and making the farm(the country) run well.
Sadly, if they had followed the inventor, he would have given them electricity for free, there would be no wars over energy, which after all, that’s what these wars are truly about, the energy trapped in oil that helps destroy our planet when we use it.
So yes, ‘Animal Farm’ analogies are precisely what is needed so people will realize what is happening, even today as it was after WWII, nothing has changed, the war pigs are still in control and the dogs enforce the oligarchy.

Anonymous | 11/12/2009, 11:07 am EST

Jed Clampett

For those of you who are so enamored with the capitalist system and want to transfer all control to corporations, this is what you are trying to transfer control to…

democracynow dot org/2009/11/10/hoodwinked_form er_economic_hit_man_john

If you didn’t believe me that our government is funding our enemy, then listen to an insider…

democracynow dot org/2009/11/12/taliban

The only solution to this problem is to bring our people home and work on providing for OUR future. Pakistan does not need our funding, they will promote terrorism and hatred as they have done for so long without need of our involvement or our treasure.

Anonymous | 11/12/2009, 11:17 am EST

Jed Clampett

make that ‘didn’t believe me that our corporations are funding the enemy’

another little tidbit… the dangers of allowing corporations drunk on profit and greed to play with the Earth’s life resource, its water…

democracynow dot org/2009/11/10/watchdog_new_yo rk_state_regulation_of

just think of the dangers, now that gas wells are being put up close to DFW airport, schools and within neighborhoods.

Can you really trust the private sector to do ‘the right thing’? Those that have repeatedly bought off legislators to change the laws into favoring themselves to the detriment of the population and the environment? Can you trust those that pay off both sides of a war so they can make money off our treasury? Can you trust those that have buried technologies that can improve our efficient use of hydrocarbons and healing, merely for the sake of profit?

DOWN WITH THE FERENGI!!
DEPOSE THE TYRANTS THAT SELL OUT THEIR COUNTRYMEN!!!

BurnDaddy | 11/12/2009, 1:08 pm EST

“The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.”

Unfortunately, I think it’s going to have to get worse before people finally wake up and things really change.

Anonymous | 11/13/2009, 3:47 am EST

Jed Clampett

Yes, our Military industrial Complex needs wars to keep the money flowing, if some of it trickles to the Taliban to fund future operations against our soldiers… it is what it is.

sickening to say the least.

Read it and try not to puke on yourself…

thenation dot com/doc/20091130/roston

I guess profit trumps everything. What is sad, we have people here in America that can’t get jobs because they have a little grass stain on their record, yet our military has no problem giving multimillion dollar contracts to convicted heroin smugglers. The hypocrisy is shocking.
Check out the connection that the neo-conservative think tank, the American Enterprise Institute has in the fiasco. The Reich Wingers have been planning this little money vacuum for a long time, they had an inside man to help things along.
Remember… enemies foreign or DOMESTIC.

Tennessee Vol | 11/13/2009, 10:18 am EST

Can everyone please just calm down? No third party in the last 150 years has ever come close to taking power, and it is unlikely to happen anytime soon, in our firmly entreched biparty system.

Somewhere In The Middle | 11/13/2009, 1:37 pm EST

Jed, so I assume if you are for stripping Joe Lieberman of his chairmanship and Senate seat you are also in favor of doing the same to Chris Dodd. Or is he alright because he agrees with your ideology?

Anonymous | 11/13/2009, 2:05 pm EST

Jed Clampett

BD, you’re right, unfortunately, the longer we wait to act, the more pressure builds and the more violent the release will be. In fact, the criminals, the mafia that have us under their control count on this because they control the security apparatus. When they wish to unleash it on the population, they can.
Just look at a couple of episodes of cops and you will notice the way police act towards the public, particularly the poor.
They use the excuse of a war on drugs to enact military style operations on the general population, beating down doors with guns drawn yelling and screaming to terrorize the people inside, regardless of whether there are children or elderly… no concern whatsoever for the safety of the public, only their own. That is exactly what the founding fathers wanted to protect us from; then again, they thought the people of the future would be smarter, not dumber.

Most of the cops I’ve spoken with don’t even understand that they derive their authority from the authority of the public and that they don’t have any more rights than the rest of us, the most basic tenet of life in a Republic… then again, they spend countless hours on the range learning how to kill people, almost none learning civics and law.

Coach | 11/13/2009, 2:46 pm EST

Hey Midman, since we’re going to throw stones at the ‘other’ party, are you going to strip Hoekstra for revealing confidential information about a mass murder investigation?

His desperation to label this man a terrorist is embarrassing. In fact, the whole Fox world is an embarrassment in their “Let’s point the finger at muslims” analysis of Fort Hood.

Muhammad Ali – Muslim
Abortion Doctor Killer – Christian

Merkwurdigliebe | 11/16/2009, 12:43 am EST

Coach– The man was not a muslim terrorist? I suppose you have a differing definition of a terrorist?

He was a radical muslim, who actively blogged on the subject of radical jihad, regularly identified as a muslim first and everything else a distant second, actively spoke out about the US, and who regularly conversed and sought spiritual guide from a radical Yemeni cleric. He shouted “Allahu Ackbar” before he methodically gunned the soldiers down at Ft. Hood…What more do you need, a video from Osama’s cave praising him for you to take the hint?

Call it like it is…no one, outside of the lunatic fringe, is trying to blame all Muslims, as no one blames all Christians for the actions of wacko anti-abortionists.

But to suggest that Mr. Hassan was anything but a radicalized muslim bent on making a terrorist statement is ridiculous, and, quite frankly, embarassing.

Anonymous | 11/16/2009, 1:31 am EST

Jed Clampett

To me it’s total insanity…
first, it’s as if they are attempting to incite violence against American Muslims like happened after the September 11 attacks.
second, it’s like they are attempting to inflame other Muslims within the US.

Regardless of their attestations to the contrary, those intent on raising the tension level are not working to keep us safe, quite the contrary, they are not attempting to address the root causes while hoping to elevate the tension level.

Syndicate of crime… now there is a term for the history books.

Somewhere In The Middle | 11/16/2009, 2:10 pm EST

Here is the quote from Merk: “no one, outside of the lunatic fringe, is trying to blame all Muslims, as no one blames all Christians for the actions of wacko anti-abortionists.” That doesn’t sound like “inciting violence against American Muslims.” The facts are the facts and yes, Hasan was a radical Muslim and espoused jihad and other radical Muslim beliefs. But, feel free to bury your head in the sand if you must.
And yes Coach, I agree, Hoekstra should be investigated for spilling confidential information about a murder investigation. If he is found to have committed wrongdoing, he should be punished accordingly. I wouldn’t exactly say you’re comparing apples to oranges in regards to the blatant abuses committed by Dodd.

Coach | 11/16/2009, 2:56 pm EST

Merk, did that make you feel better to throw some stupid label on the man as if to rile up all the xenophobes out there?

Who cares who or what this man is/was? Why does the label matter? Is it a subconscious attempt to, somehow, keep christianity above islam?

Whatever the case, in my mind, to terrorize somebody is terrorism. In other words, yelling terrorizes, road rage terrorizes. So why does the label matter? And, why are you so hellbent on clarifying?

Merkwurdigliebe | 11/16/2009, 3:21 pm EST

Coach– The label does matter. The man simply didnt go off the handle, but was inspired by a radical fringe of Islam that, in case you’ve been asleep for the last decade or so, is the biggest challenge we’re dealing with in the new century. Not labeling him as a muslim extremist obfuscates why he did what he did, and for what aims. It also signifies a reluctance to actually acknowledge who and what we as a nation (actually Western society as a whole) are dealing with, how, seemingly, after the USS Cole bombing, after 9/11, after numerous failed terror plots that there are people who still refuse to call it like it is. If you want to blame someone for riling up Xenophobes, point to Mr Hassan…as he was the one gunning people down. You seem to have no qualms about labeling extremist Christians for gunning down abortionists, so it would seem you’re in no position to lecture anyone about distinctions.

Besides, quit trying to dodge the point; whether Christianity or Islam is better or less blameless is not the issue, though, clearly, Islam has the bigger problem on the fundamentalist front. The case, as it currently stands, should serve as a reminder that we’re no more or less safe from terrorism so long as people want to play political correctness and ignore the facts. He has the exact same resume and profile of any one of the extremist types that Wahabism has churned out over the years…the only difference is that he used a gun as opposed to an airplane, but the message, for those who are listening, is loud and clear, and the same.

So, I’m going to call it like it is. You’ve got to understand your enemy if you ever hope to win or survive against them…and I’m not going to sugarcoat if because of some imaginary backlash against muslims who are good people…its quite easy to distinguish between a radical like Mr. Hassan, and your everyday, garden variety muslim citizen…I’m not sure why you cant grasp the distinction…

Anonymous | 11/16/2009, 6:38 pm EST

Jed Clampett

A radical branch of Islam?

More like a mafia using the shroud of religion to enforce its political dogma, just like countless others have done before, including Romans, Puritans, Catholics, Protestants, etc. etc.

It is convenient to accept the propaganda pushed by the radicals and the warmongers because it has the power to turn a Billion and a half people into a fabricated enemy that will provide decades of bodies to send to the slaughter and necessitate the use of multimillion dollar machinery for protection and efficient killing. War is a racket, those that promote it are mafiosi, those who blindly support it are fools.

Plain and simple, the few radicals using fear or violence on both sides of the conflict to drive tensions to a high level do so merely for personal gain, like any criminal does. Race, flag, religion, family, nothing truly matters to criminals, only selfishness.
When the smoke clears, they know that they will be sitting on a pile of money hidden in Swiss bank accounts and they’ll be sitting in an island in the Pacific far away from the bombs.
They will be helped by other criminals willing to risk it all for a cut of the ill gotten profits, just like all imbeciles do. What drives them is an empty vessel, a soulless body that only cares about itself, all others be damned, and a frozen heart that is capable of ignoring the suffering they cause.

Maj Hasan was little more than a man conflicted by what his nation was forcing him to do. They needed more bodies to send to the slaughter and weren’t willing to release him or others from their death pact; negating the fallacy of a volunteer army. If it was true volunteerism instead of selling your soul, you’d be able to rescind your volunteerism.
He tried to avoid what happened, the military did not. For the military, he becomes another convenient driver of public opinion and all it cost was 13 lives and 30 wounded; for people whose job it is to kill efficiently, a bargain price for the support of idiots that can’t see past their own nose into the true complexity of the situation.

Merkwurdigliebe | 11/16/2009, 8:49 pm EST

Jed– I think you’re vastly underestimating why Maj. Hassan did what he did, and for what reasons. Your theory might fly had Hassan actually seen combat, or actually been to Iraq…he spent his entire career in the cushy confines of the states, and could have discharged at any time.

His killing of the 13 in for a violent, perverted view of Islam was meant to serve notice to the “Great Satan,” that radical Islam is still alive and well, and quite capable of wreaking havoc if it so chooses. It also glaringly points out the security holes in our current state of affairs, showing a nation that is arrogant and weakly defended. We’re lucky he was only one man, and not a coordinated strike…the fact that first the Bush, and then Obama administration didnt stop this guy despite the numerous warning signs (you’d think espousing Jihad and trying to contact Al Qaeda would have been enough post 9/11)

He’s a vivid reminder of the real dangers we face in the modern era. As I already stated, for those who are listening, Hassan’s point was taken loud and clear. These guys are in for the long haul of the culture clash…the question is, are we?

Coach | 11/17/2009, 1:37 pm EST

Merk, terrorism is the biggest challenge of our generation? Where have you been? You do realize that this stuff has been around forever, and will be around forever, right?

Just like you want to place blame on Islam for its radical teachings to Hasan, I’d like to place blame on the CIA, and other ‘black ops’ missions, in the middle east and abroad over the years, for creating more enemies.

Remember the reason they hate us. It’s not for what we are, but what we do.

Merkwurdigliebe | 11/17/2009, 2:03 pm EST

Coach– Your point is well taken, but previously, or at least in the last century, terrorism has always been part of a larger backdrop that included the Cold War, the clash of ideologies, and the like. Now, terrorism, or at least, Islamic radicalism, is at the forefront, as its stand alone now. We’re not fighting terrorism in some sort of proxy fashion anymore, its a more or less direct conflict.

Your argument is only half right. They, i.e. Islamic radicals, hate us BOTH for what we are and for what we do. We prop up dictators, supply weapons to the region, and in general meddle where we ought not to be. But thats only half the story. The Russians and the Chinese do the same thing, but are not being called out in fatwahs. We’re also disliked because we’re seen as arrogant, decadent, and morally bankrupt. We worship at the altar of money, mass produced consumerism, and worst of all, equal rights in terms of sex and gender. Every sexualized ad they see for a product made in the US is just another slap in the face to fundamentalist values, beamed to them by our stranglehold over the media market. They despise the fact that our culture has become a global one…they despise us simply because we exist. Regardless of where the blame lies, we still have to deal with the consequences.

Radical Islam is finding favor because its simply the only revolutionary outlet the Middle East has left, after the collapse of Nasser’s Pan-Arab S.oc.ialist dream. Part of it is due to our meddling, but part of it is also due to arabs throwing all the chips in with Nasser…when his dream failed, the radicals were the only thing left. We’ve certainly helped along the way, mostly because we thought it would rankle the Soviets, but our image would be sour no matter what. It still is; Obama’s speech in Cairo did diddly for our image in the ME.

So I would definitely put Radical Islam at the top of the list of things we should be worried about Coach, concerning that increasingly active in nuclear states, and have direct affect on the current energy supply systems of the world. I dunno, but it seems to me we ought to take notice, yes? In terms of foreign policy, can you think of a greater challenge at present?

Anonymous | 11/17/2009, 4:44 pm EST

Jed Clampett

“cushy confines of the states”

yea, like a military paycheck allows you to live in ‘cushy confines’… did you see the tiny apartment he lived in? the austere life he lived?

In his career of counseling soldiers he’s had to hear how they act in a war and the war crimes they commit. He tried to find ways of bringing charges upon some he counseled and got himself a ‘cushy’ job on the front lines instead to shut him up. Instead he chose to kill a bunch of soldiers and die in the process, partly he failed. He did raise awareness of the plight Muslims in the military are faced with, but the media and the politicians looking for votes form the easily deceived decided to twist it to their own devices.

Had he been smarter he would have hired and attorney and become a conscientious objector, delivered all his records to the Human Rights Council and the Hague and beat his drum as loud as possible. Unfortunately he did what those people have been deceived into believing, that killing yourself and others is better than using your intelligence, perseverance and good heart in the service of spirit, Allah, God, Jehova, Krishna, Earth, Whatever YOU CHOOSE TO CALL IT. In my opinion, he’s much braver than those forced into ‘a job’ going off to kill others for the sake of a lie and transferring the wealth into the mafias pockets.

Merkwurdigliebe | 11/17/2009, 5:52 pm EST

Jed– Bullsh*t, on so many levels, I’m not sure where to start first.

He was a full blown Colonel, making very good pay. His apartment was spare and tiny because, as a radical muslim, he shunned western accoutrements and luxuries, believing that Allah commanded him to live a spare/spartan life. The army paid him plenty, he just didnt spend it.

And, by all accounts, it was HE who went around picking fights with others. There are many muslims fighting in the armed forces, but unlike this guy they’re not going around spouting that Jihad is the way to go. He was combattive, inept, and a poor performer…all of which rests on him, not any mistreatment that doesnt seem to have happened.

The man, plain and simple, was a coward, who wanted to be Mr. Jihad by gunning down unarmed soldiers away from the battlefield. Brave would have been him actually going to Iraq, defecting, and actually fighting on an equal footing.

Again, Jed, you may not be listening or recieving the message, but those who have an idea of where Mr. Hassan was coming from do

Anonymous | 11/17/2009, 9:54 pm EST

Jed Clampett

Start with your own upper lip, that’s were the majority of sh!t comes from, unfortunately it makes an infinite loop with your brain… you must have a masters degree, because you have so much BS piled deeper and higher.

Typically, this comes from having accepted darkness and choosing to ignore enlightenment.

Wow, your powers of telepathy are incredible, your level of faith in your ignorance and hatefulness is as.stounding. I’m surprised you can’t accept any religion when you religiously espouse such viciousness. To each their own God I guess, not much you can do when they accept evil into their souls and give it a place of residence there. Sometimes all it takes is the inability to believe there is good in the world.

Merkwurdigliebe | 11/17/2009, 10:12 pm EST

Jed– Sorry to disappoint pal-o-mine, but the ole upper lip is clear, but the stench floating over from your direction is a might potent. Surely one as well versed in the art of BS such as yourself should know that those in glass houses should never throw stones? Besides, given your lack of any apparent knowledge of the case, I wouldnt be chiding anyone for ignorance.

But, lest I forget, I’m evil, dark, and beyond hope, blah, blah, blah…did I get the checklist of cliche attacks right? Lemme know if I missed one…I got your opinion of me about 30 wastes of text ago. You’re still the one making excuses for the killing of innocent, unarmed people…and all the obfuscating by insuling me isnt going to hide it…

btw, I have a PHD in BSing, with a masters in being dark, evil, machiavellian etc…just thought I should clear that up so that your next post insulting me, but, conveniently, ignoring the message, is more factual, buckeroo.

BurnDaddy | 11/18/2009, 1:11 am EST

An old Cherokee was teaching his young grandson one of life’s most important lessons. He told the young boy the following parable:

“There is a fight going on inside each of us. It is a terrible fight between two wolves,” he said.

“One wolf is evil. He is anger, rage, envy, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, resentment, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.”

“The second wolf is good. He is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, empathy, truth, compassion, and faith.”

The grandson thought about this for a moment. Then he asked his grandfather, “Which wolf will win this fight?”

The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”

Anonymous | 11/18/2009, 3:12 am EST

Jed Clampett

“He was a full blown Colonel, making very good pay.”
Maj. Hasan was a Colonel? That’s important news, was he promoted after the shootings? If so, that’s the fastest promotion from Captain to Colonel in the history of the armed forces. He even skipped over Lieutenant Colonel. Nice job DBag.

HMM, how much is very good pay for putting your life at risk for your country? 30k? 40k? 50? Apparently nowhere nearly as good as denying people health care services from the cushy comfort of an Italian leather executive chair. But those guys are hard workers making profit off of stupid people who think pills can cure them, right? Executives are hard workers as you have attested, I imagine they break a sweat trying to figure out new reasons to stamp a ‘denied’ label on an requisition for a liver transplant.

I’m trying to find where in the investigation it has been revealed that ‘it was HE picking fights with others’. Unless it was O’really or LimpBought, and we know they are merely entertainers and not people who should be taken as news casters or disseminators of information instead of seminal regurgitators of filth.

‘combative, inept and a poor performer’ wow, you just described a large portion of the police force and just about every guy that has returned from war with PTSD, maybe that disease is contagious, I hope not. Isn’t that what military training does to a person? Besides wash his brain into compliance and abandonment of his human instincts of course.

“all of which rests on him, not any mistreatment”
Of course, let’s conveniently forget the other factors involved in the shaping of a personality. I bet you were a bully in school, then blamed the violent responses on brutish nature. It is his nature, nurture and environment don’t make a difference, right? He was a hateful automaton with a hateful nature just like you, huh?

You’re funny… not funny, ha, ha!

“brave would have been him actually going to Iraq, defecting, and actually fighting on an equal footing”
You think it’s easy to defect? How many American soldiers actually take the extreme form of defection? Remember the bathroom scene in ‘Full Metal Jacket’?
Exactly what equal footing are you talking about? Guys riding around in multimillion dollar vehicles supported by multimillion dollar electronics systems under cover of multimillion dollar aircraft and multimillion dollar satellites against goat herders with old Kalashnikovs and outdated ordinance?
Guess whose multimillion dollars is paying for all that ‘equal footing’, who do you think are the beneficiaries of those multi-BILLION dollar contracts? How much money gets lost when one of those old $50 bombs blows the hell out of an MRAP?

Dude, the depth of the fantasy world you live in is truly frightening. You are not in a rabbit hole, you’re in a sh!t hole and no red pill is gonna pull you out of it. Frankly, I really don’t think that even death will help you see the light… I’d be surprised if you see any light at all, maybe if you died for a couple of minutes and saw what is waiting to draw you in you might reflect. Unlikely though, you’d be too frightened by what you see to recognize it till after it has you trapped.

Merkwurdigliebe | 11/18/2009, 11:24 am EST

Jed– Oops, my bad, he was only a Major…my mistake. I told you my Phd was in BS…sometimes the stuff just slips out, I’m like the NY Times or the Stimulus Watch when it comes to fact checking sometimes.

Despite all of this, you’re still the one making apologies for someone who gunned down unarmed, innocent people. You really should be a psychiatrist, you’ve really got me totally pegged, just from my posts. I’m actually quite impressed that you’ve figured out that I’m an evil doctor of BS who’s a former bully, who may/may not be totally in league with dark forces blah blah blah…now not even death can save me? Oh the humanity, what is a Dr. of Evil BS to do!? Why, if only I could start making excuses for dudes who kill innocent, unarmed people, why, you and me could have a blasty-blast! Wait, is being an evil bully worse than being a hypocrite?

Besides, I have more respect for those “Goat herders with Kalashnikovs” than Mr. Hasan. I seem to remember simple peasant rice farmers doing a number on us in Vietnam, and those goat herders seem to doing quite well against us, the Pakistanis, and whomever else…my cousins leg was shattered by an IED thanks to one of those goat herders…to even call them such again speaks volumes to your lack of knowledge about, well, just about anything that you dont agree with. Why, its incredibly easy to defect over, all John Walker Lind needed was a plane ticket to Kabul. Hell, half of your argument isnt even germane to Mr. Hasan…you want to get your grudge on with the police and big business, at least do it on a post that has something to with whats being discussed.

But the DBag quip was just outta line! One of these days you’re going to really hurt my feelings you big bully…probably right after you make another excuse about killing people. Zing! Dont worry Jed, I’ll be performing all day…

Anonymous | 11/19/2009, 1:49 am EST

Sometimes? :D :D :D

What a maroon

Anonymous | 11/19/2009, 12:42 pm EST

That’s funny…

Oops, my bad,…my mistake. I was talking out of my a.ss at the time. It’s hard to keep up with facts when you are tossing BS twists on other peoples words in order to ignore reality. You’ll never make me face reality or accept something that contradicts my dogma.

This guy is a classic, thanks for the laugh Jed.
what a good shot man!!

Merkwurdigliebe | 11/20/2009, 9:39 am EST

Anon– Actually, I prefer macaroons, as I have a thing for coconut.

Glad to know I’m a classic though, it just goes to show that snarkyness never goes out of style…like I said, I’ll be here all week ladies and germs!

Anonymous | 11/20/2009, 11:31 pm EST

snarky
Rudely sarcastic or disrespectful; snide.

Irritable or short-tempered; irascible

testy or irritable; short.

It’s sad to see that thees days it is considered an admirable trait by some. But then again, the lower intelligence levels have always considered the negative qualities as admirable. It allows them to settle for the low hanging fruit without having to exert themselves in reaching for better things. It also serves as an excuse to be selfish.

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