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Kerlikowske Finds Ideology

7/24/09, 12:34 am EST

This is a major disappointment:

Obama’s drug czar, Gil Kerlikowske hit the road this week to rail against the perils of pot:

“Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit,” he said at an appearance in Fresno, California.

This is a striking departure from what Kerlikowske told me in an interview in May.

Because of the restrictive terms the Vice President’s office imposed on our interview, I’m not at liberty to quote the drug czar directly.

But when I asked Kerlikowske for an example of how he hoped to bring sound science back to Office of National Drug Control Policy, he told me that science would answer whether smoked marijuana has any medical benefit.

That’s a question that science answers, he told me, not ideology.

From this week’s comments, it appears it took just two more months on the job for Kerlikowske’s openness to scientific uncertainty to snap shut in a fit of ideological conviction.


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Franz Hanzerbeak | 7/24/2009, 1:41 am EST

Why should we be surprised? The Obama administration seems to be back-pedaling on a lot of issues these days. Especially those that concern progressives the most.

Sad.

Jim | 7/24/2009, 4:16 am EST

I heard that these were Mexican drug cartels that were destroying California’s land with pesticides and other chemicals used in cannabis cultivation. Regardless I agree with you about his comments regarding cannabis not having any medical values unless determined by science. That’s just postponement of the inevitable because cannabis will again be legalized it’s just a matter of time. Why he would say that cannabis has no medical value is disturbing in many ways. Does he know what it’s like to dwindle down to a skeleton and go from being a 6′2″ 220lb middle aged man down to 90 lb’s in less than 12 months? I wished he’d had left his mouth at home with his brain!

T. Slothrop | 7/24/2009, 5:24 am EST

Ideological conviction? Simplistic, it is more likely a combination of internal institutional pressures reflective but corroborated by external industrial pressures.

The simple question that one can derive an intellectually satisfying model of influence is who benefits from criminalised cannabis? Numerous businesses, as it is unfortunately. The lobbying and history of opposition is a well documented one.

Pharmaceutical companies for one, you cannot patent cannabis and it has numerous positive medical effects, the stimulation of hunger (for those undergoing cancer treatments), amelioration of insomnia (suffering from insomnia over the last 10 months I can attest to the efficacy) and it turns Grand Theft Auto IV from an immersive masterpiece to a bewilderingly fun experience.

The tobacco and alcohol industry, cannabis is a weed which can grow anywhere in a large variety of conditions and does not require the immense capital and maintenance of tobacco cultivation. It would be a truly ‘democratic’ drug in the sense that one could grow for oneself at their leisure with extremely minimal effort. It would also crush cigarette sales, why enjoy a mildly-relaxing and extremely-addictive cloud of particulate matter when you can have something incomparably more enjoyable without the physically addictive properties? Alcohol is roughly the same story and a far more destructive drug.

The prison industry in America must also have a hand peripherally or indeed directly in the support of the zealous application of current. In subtle ways that are at the mutual benefit of parties involved, if one was to take a look at campaign contributions by private jail operators I would not doubt that candidates who are “tough on crime” would be preferential to those favouring less draconian policies.

The textile industry historically has been for the destruction of hemp as viable competitor to the then new plastic and synthetic compound boom. William Randolph Hearst’s (of Citizen Kane fame) textile interests were rightly seen as being potentially compromised by this mere weed, which led to obvious advocacy in his media concerns.

Given that politics is the shadow cast by business, this reversal is hardly surprising. Given the established servitude, deference and preference displayed by the Obama administration to moneyed interests this is a sad but unsurprising fact but also unexceptional and indeed eternal.

The solution is simple and I would like to know the views of others, that society must not equate money with free speech, campaign contributions must be eliminated and complete public financing of elections must be implemented forthwith. For when you equate money with free speech, it means that some people have exponentially more free speech than others.

EndtheProhibition | 7/24/2009, 7:35 am EST

I’m *not* a conspiracy theorist but something’s just weird about marijuana.

Every good, level-headed person that gains a position of power in this country suddenly says that marijuana is dangerous and allowing businesses to produce and sell it to adults is not even going to be considered.

And often when they’ve finished their time in power they’ll say that it’s not so bad after all and that legalization is a great option. What’s with that???

How can legalization not even be an option? When you’re looking for the best solution you want to start with *everything* being an option, from there you analyze the pros and cons of each approach and eventually decide on the best solution given the facts available at the time. What you do NOT do is start off by saying that some options are “not even going to be considered”!!

There’s just something smelly about the whole marijuana issue. Why all the lies? Why the refusal to weigh up the benefits and harms of the prohibition? Why is unprovable ideology like “it’ll send the wrong message to kids” touted as being gospel while 6,000 brutal murders and all the damaged lives caused by the arrests, denial of federal aid, no-knock SWAT raids and militarization of our police forces not even mentioned?

6,000 people were murdered by the cartels last year as a direct result of the prohibition, 2,000 people are arrested for possession every single *day*, and yet these horrific harms caused by the prohibition are not even taken into account when deciding whether to continue the prohibition or not. Why is that?

Why is legalization not even considered? Have our leaders really made a deal with the cartels? There’s something just weird about their whole approach to marijuana!

Corporate American | 7/24/2009, 9:03 am EST

This change should come as not surprise. I am sure that the corporations in charge of the large US prison industry and their lobbyists sent enough money to Kerlikowske to have him embrace their ideology. Who cares about science when people are shoving money your way?

Ray | 7/24/2009, 10:00 am EST

It sure didn’t take long for the Nancy Reagan brain-worm to take full control of Mr. Kerlikowske…

Everyone poised for the end of Cannabis Prohibition should take careful heed of the sudden change in direction… the DEA will be back to regularly raiding Dispensaries before the end of 2009.

Anonymous | 7/24/2009, 10:33 am EST

Jed Clampett

Oh yes, the hand of the pharma lobby makes it’s appearance again. Never mis.under.estimate the power of huge corporations with untold wealth at their disposal to affect public policy in such a way as to protect their own ’special interests’.

Throughout the world in the last couple of months we have seen the downtrodden standing up to the heartless machine.
In Honduras, the people have rejected the coup by the military, spurred on by US corporate interests and insane wealth, and taken to the streets to disrupt the money trough to the hoggs.

In China, the Uyghurs have decided to stand up against their oppressors, for some reason their plight has dropped from main stream media news sources.

In Iran, the people have risen up against the theft of their vote and values by those who would revel in a constant state of conflict.

In Pakistan, the people are starting to recognize the influence of their military and security services in the spread of conflict and stress among other nations as well as within their own.

Americans are beginning to recognize the blatant abuse of authority by their police forces, and the way their transgressions seem to be dismissed and disavowed by their leadership, leading to an oppressive force and money making business rather than a peace keeping entity.

For some reason, in the US, the owners of the government and those beholden to them by way of the campaign contributions, PAC contributions, Charitable contributions and other ‘contributions’ to ’special interests’ of politicians, the megalo-corporations and silver spooners, are turning on their cohorts the government. Is it a sham? A distraction merely designed to generate distaste for ‘Guvment’ so as to prevent meaningful legislation from being developed and implemented? Is it merely a tactic developed in Europe in the early and mid 1900’s to manipulate the population into a homicidal/suicidal covenant and unleashed in the same manner against the US population?

Is the engineered economic collapse in the wealthiest nation on Earth, and subsequent apparent record profit by the banks and corporations that caused the problem, merely a tool used to oppress the population, confident that their complacency and polarization will prevent them from actually expressing their frustration against the real enemy… corporate pirates intent on complete domination of all facets of life and hiding behind laws that shield it’s employees from accountability for their immoral activities?

Hmmm, I wonder what form the Tsunami will take now in order to minimize the initial chaos before the natural reorganization of the system?
Tune in next time to find out how events will develop in the most influential nation on Earth and whether it’s people will awaken enough to act to protect themselves and their interests over the interests of the FATCATS that keep them as CRUMBBUMS.

Evil | 7/24/2009, 11:04 am EST

Holdren/Obama Find Ideology

Obama’s science czar, John Holdren hit the road in 1977 in a book entitled ECOSCIENCE, to rail against the perils of freedom, specifically reproductive freedom (which I thought liberals supported, but we all know that’s a lie):

“A program of sterilizing women after their second or third child, despite the relatively greater difficulty of the operation than vasectomy, might be easier to implement than trying to sterilize men.

The development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin and removed when pregnancy is desired opens additional possibilities for coercive fertility control. The capsule could be implanted at puberty and might be removable, with official permission, for a limited number of births.”

“Adding a sterilant to drinking water or staple foods is a suggestion that seems to horrify people more than most proposals for involuntary fertility control.”

“If this could be accomplished, security might be provided by an armed international organization, a global analogue of a police force. Many people have recognized this as a goal, but the way to reach it remains obscure in a world where factionalism seems, if anything, to be increasing. The first step necessarily involves partial surrender of sovereignty to an international organization.”

There is much more….do some research.

jeff | 7/24/2009, 11:17 am EST

The government stance on pot makes me want to puke!

Lawman | 7/24/2009, 12:44 pm EST

No medical value?

Then why was the dept. of health and human services [ your federal government ] granted a patent on Cannabis in 2003?

US Patent 6630507 – Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants

US Patent Issued on October 7, 2003
Abstract Claims
Description
Full Text
6630507

Abstract

Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated
to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids
useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation
associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and
autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular
application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological
damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the
treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer’s disease,
Parkinson’s disease and HIV dementia.

Somebodies lying.

Lawman | 7/24/2009, 12:48 pm EST

Additionally, Cannabis kills cancer;

“Cancer occurs because cells become immortalized; they fail to heed normal signals to turn off growth. A normal function of remodelling in the body requires that cells die on cue. This is called apoptosis, or programmed cell death.

That process fails to work in tumors. THC promotes its reappearance so that gliomas, leukemias, melanomas and other cell types will in fact heed the signals, stop dividing, and die.”

“But, that is not all,” explains Dr. Russo: “The other way that tumors grow is by ensuring that they are nourished: they send out signals to promote angiogenesis, the growth of new blood vessels. Cannabinoids turn off these signals as well. It is truly incredible, and elegant.”

In other words, this article explains several ways in which cannabinoids might be used to fight cancer, and, as the article says, “Cannabinoids are usually well tolerated, and do not produce the generalized toxic effects of conventional chemotherapies.

That’s right, news about the abilility of pot to shrink tumors first surfaced, way back in 1974.

Sounds medically valuable to me.

Storm Crow | 7/24/2009, 1:12 pm EST

I have a hobby. I collect medical marijuana studies. They are compiled in “Granny Storm Crow’s list”. (run a search for it) Here are some of the titles- “Effects of smoked marijuana on food intake and body weight”, “Smoked marijuana and oral delta-9-THC on specific airway conductance in asthmatic subjects”, “Oral vs. Inhaled Cannabinoids for Nausea/Vomiting from Cancer Chemotherapy”, “Anticonvulsant nature of marihuana smoking”, “Marihuana smoking and intraocular pressure”, “Antiemetic efficacy of smoked marijuana”,”A Randomized, Placebo Controlled Cross-Over Trial of Cannabis Cigarettes in Neuropathic Pain”.

I have quite a few others, but I think you get the idea. Even if smoked, cannabis IS medicine! Although smoked cannabis, does have some health hazards, as does smoking anything, the THC and CBD in the cannabis also seem to have anti-cancer properties that cancel the smoke’s carcinogens.

Whether you are undecided about medical cannabis, or whether you already know about its healing abilities, I urge you to take a look at my list for the whole story. Thank you.

ray | 7/24/2009, 2:32 pm EST

Pot does have medical value, for reflux,colds, mood uplifting and nerves.If this is the best Obama can do hes done one term and gone.

Bubba | 7/24/2009, 3:04 pm EST

Looks as though Big PHarma, with their sleeping pills, advils, tylenols, and other ‘alternatives’ to marijuana, got to him.

Imagine, if you will, the decrease in the size of the ‘pain killer’ aisle in the supermarket if marijuana becomes as legal as alcohol.

Tylenol? I’ll take a bonghitinstead.

Advil? I’ll take a bonghit instead.

TylenolPm? I’ll take a bonghit instead.

Maybe it’s time for Big PHarma to try to be the ones ’selling’ it to us, instead of continually blocking it.

Coach | 7/24/2009, 3:12 pm EST

MERK, WHERE ARE YOU?:

This article gets right to the heart of our discussion on whether or not to directly tax the church……….Personally, I think taxing the church directly would weed out the scumbags……

I can’t paste the URL, so just search: Tony Alamo, Evangelist Child Abuse

The Pig in Zen | 7/24/2009, 3:33 pm EST

ugh.

Wow | 7/24/2009, 4:20 pm EST

‘Drug czar’ says marijuana is dangerous…..what does that make prescription ‘drugs’, like antipsychotic meds? Good for you?

FYI: San Francisco’s public health option is now covering 75% of uninsured people, and health care costs are coming down. Proof that it works…..As if we needed proof.

Courtney from NY | 7/24/2009, 4:47 pm EST

Well, that just put a damper on my weekend

ray | 7/24/2009, 4:58 pm EST

Pot should be legal and available, no other drug helps with has many problems.

Serena Milane | 7/24/2009, 6:03 pm EST

Part of what ignites drug issues is global poverty. Marijuana is not even a heavy drug and such a minimal problem next to global health issues! The Borgen Project has some good information on the cost of addressing global poverty (www.borgenproject.org).
It only takes $30 billion annually to end world hunger!
Yet… we are spending $550 billion annually on the defense budget.

julian | 7/24/2009, 6:51 pm EST

The Borgen Project has some good info on the cost of addressing global poverty.

$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.
$550 billion: U.S. Defense budget.

The Time Is Now | 7/24/2009, 10:07 pm EST

END CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS AND LOBBYING

LITMUS TESTS AND PUBLIC FINANCING OF CAMPAIGNS IS THE FUTURE

Rainst0rm | 7/25/2009, 9:19 am EST

“To defy the authority of empirical evidence is to disqualify oneself as someone worthy of critical engagement in a dialogue.” – Dalai Lama XIV

todd | 7/25/2009, 11:08 am EST

I hope everybody really pays attention when they vote in 2010. We can all end this just by VOTING.

dr common sense | 7/25/2009, 12:03 pm EST

We continue this ‘witch hunt’ seeking anyone who does not agree with us and destroying them. Marijuana causes ZERO related deaths, is a safe alternative to alcohol and helps so many people. The failed policy of prohibition must be repealed , ‘the war on drugs’ is a war on the people of this country. Stand up and be counted togeather we can stop this madness. legalize,tax,regulate.

Merkwurdigliebe | 7/25/2009, 12:33 pm EST

I think Kerlikowske has got it wrong…decriminalize/legalize , immediately. All the farming towns in the Inland Emprie (Modesto, Bakersfield, Fresno, Hanford, Salinas, etc) would immediately have a new cash crop to plant and cultivate, and that might help alleviate their hight unemployment. Best of all, it takes the substance out of the hands of bloody narco-terrorists and dictators.

Coach– I’m not sure taxing the chruch would have prevented what Tony Alamo is accused of. A sicko like that would have probably molested those children, taxes or not. I think perhaps if one changes and makes more strident the rules and laws of attaining protected religious status (as Alamo’s scheme, from what I’ve read, seems to be more along the line of a pyramid scheme than an actual religion), I think that would be the more pragmatic solution. If you make the qualifiers a bit tougher (but not outright discriminatory or prohibitive so as not to interfere with the 1st Amendment), that may catch more of the illicit hucksters and shysters. But simply blanketing a tax to punish all for the misdeeds of a few wackos and scumbags would be very unfair to the fair number of churches out there who are honest, apolitical, and are actually about serving a higher power as opposed to lining the preachers pockets. As stated however, the such changes would have to be carefully written; one wouldnt want the government imposing on a churches freedom of speech or expression, nor being some sort of grand decider/qualifier of religion, as the the power to tax connotates the power to destroy…

Alamo, if the allegations are true, should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and ought to serve as a warning to those who misuse religion for illegal activities.

Chris | 7/25/2009, 1:32 pm EST

Man.. this administration is just dissapointing me more and more day by day. WHAT EVIDENCE EXISTS THAT SUGGESTS MARIJUANA IS MORE DANGEROUS THAN THE SLEW OF OTHER MEDICATIONS DOCTORS CAN PRESCRIBE US? You can’t even overdose from pot!!! I am almost to the point where I have lost all faith..

Mike Stroup | 7/25/2009, 2:48 pm EST

Just say “no” to stupid! Are there enough true American patriots willing and able to pay what it costs to live in a free country, or not? Prohibitionists should be jailed for their horrific crimes against humanity.

the reason. | 7/25/2009, 3:59 pm EST

The reason his tune has changed so much is because *drum roll* his position REQUIRES HIM to speak that way.

BY LAW he is not allowed to promote the dropping of a sched 1 drug.

the czar’s office is not able to spend ANY money for or to promote dropping ANY drug below a sched 1.

not even kidding, look it up.

it is HIS JOB, he is doing what he has always done, HIS JOB.

i am 100% for legalizing cannabis, i say age 18 and up (if you can die for this country, you should be able to smoke a joint first.)

but its not him that has changed, he is doing what he is told.

musclecarfreak | 7/25/2009, 10:30 pm EST

Marijuana is dangerous and has no medical benefit? Is he for real?

Google these->

1) Randomized, controlled trial of cannabis-based medicine in central pain in multiple sclerosis

2) The endocannabinoid system and multiple sclerosis.

3) medmjscience marijuana and medicine (second listing)

4) Cannabidiol: from an inactive cannabinoid to a drug with wide spectrum of action

5) Marijuana’s Active Ingredient Targets Deadly Brain Cancer

6) science: Study shows marijuana increases brain cell growth

You want more Gil? I have dozens of conclusive scientific studies that show cannabis has medical value.

Let’s see what other scare tactics can be debunked…

Debunk the “marijuana causes lung cancer” scare tactic. Google ->
fox news Marijuana Does Not Raise Lung Cancer Risk

Debunk the Gateway Hypothesis. Google ->
Predictors of Marijuana Use in Adolescents Before and After Licit Drug Use: Examination of the Gateway Hypothesis

Debunk the schizophrenia scare tactics. Google ->
ScienceDirect Assessing the impact of cannabis use on trends in diagnosed schizophrenia in the United Kingdom from 1996 to 2005

No medical value? What a hoot!

Glen | 7/26/2009, 3:47 am EST

To meet them in the middle, he has dropped his base.

ryan | 7/26/2009, 1:27 pm EST

Totally messed up. Marijuana is so prevalent in our society is makes no sense to keep it illegal.

But I guess one of the ways to exert your power over someone in our society is to write laws pertaining to their actions.

Direct from wiki | 7/26/2009, 2:19 pm EST

direct copy & paste from wiki.

“By law, the drug czar must oppose any attempt to legalize the use (in any form) of illicit drugs.[5]. According to the “Office of National Drug Control Policy Reauthorization Act of 1998″[6] the director of the ONDCP

(12) shall ensure that no Federal funds appropriated to the Office of National Drug Control Policy shall be expended for any study or contract relating to the legalization (for a medical use or any other use) of a substance listed in schedule I of section 202 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812) and take such actions as necessary to oppose any attempt to legalize the use of a substance (in any form) that– 1. is listed in schedule I of section 202 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812); and 2. has not been approved for use for medical purposes by the Food and Drug Administration”

CCo | 7/26/2009, 5:12 pm EST

Is the issue that it’s illegal or that it’s beneficial. Will someone have the balls to call a vice a vice, but hold the position that it should be legalized just the same. That is an ideology I can get behind.

Medicinal marijuana is a wink and a nod to the pot-smoking community. There are many, more effective, legal alternatives to smoking pot for “medical” reasons. Stop the shenanigans: legalize it in a controlled fashion and put it on the free market so people with businesses see the revenue instead of shady drug cartels.

Craig Burton | 7/26/2009, 7:16 pm EST

Legalization is NOT inevitable; don’t make the same mistake proponents did in the early 70’s when the prospect of legalization slipped through their fingers.

Keep up the pressure — write your representatives, stay current on the news and above all else: talk to your friends and family to encourage them to do the same.

Anonymous | 7/27/2009, 1:14 am EST

THe answer is evident then… de-schedule Mary Jane. How is she as harmful as cocaine and Heroine? Something doesn’t pass the smell test there and it ain’t some sweet skunk.

AmericanFarmer | 7/27/2009, 10:22 am EST

Well the smoking issue is just a red herring, a diversion from the industrial implications of cannabis reform.

With the right hemp fibers in a hot water heater, you can brew biodiesel. Super cheap clean energy. It would mean jobs for Americans producing food, fuel, fiber and medicine like never before. But most dangerously, it would open the current corporate conglomerates to immense competition from American owned green industry.

Conspiracy in plain sight.

Bryan-Atlanta | 7/27/2009, 5:04 pm EST

As old polititians die off, the lies they believe die with them.

What happens when California legalizes cannabis in 2010. The Feds will have to deal with an entire state that accepts taxes from cannabis.

Joshua Duncan | 7/27/2009, 5:56 pm EST

LEGALIZE IT!!!

Impeach, fight stagment policies, and change the world!!
-JD

Somewhere In The Middle | 7/27/2009, 6:20 pm EST

It’s a travesty that politicians continue to demonize marijuana and keep it out of the hands of those that really need it. Somewhere out there, someone is wasting away from AIDS or Cancer and is paying through the nose for pharmaceutical drugs that the government says are okay while they could be growing their own medicine for free.
Cco, I’ll admit that for me, pot is a vice, I smoke it because I like the way it makes me feel. But, to say that it has no medicinal value for anyone, I think is an egregious error.
In the end, politicians know they won’t lose elections because they favor prohibition, and until they start losing elections, nothing is going to change.

Tyler Bass | 7/28/2009, 12:48 am EST

” . . . he told me that science would answer whether smoked marijuana has any medical benefit.”

Well, gosh darn it, Tim. Smoking the marijuana is a red herring unto itself. Mastication, vaporization anybody?

Brinna Nanda | 7/28/2009, 1:13 am EST

The war against cannabis is a war against consciousness.

What hubris to attempt to eradicate a plant with which the human race has had a strong and beneficial relationship with for thousands of years.

The question is why, and the answer lies in the absolutism of capitalism and its need for an uninterrupted supply of labor which can be manipulated and controlled.

Of course, the commies aren’t off the hook either. They are just capitalists whose corporation is the state.

Tom Warzala | 7/28/2009, 2:31 pm EST

I would love to see them use science to answer whether smoked marijuana has any medical benefit. Of course it has medical benefits thats why people use it for medicine, if it did not benifit them they wouldnt use it. Plus the government should not be allowed to tell us weather or not we can smoke a harmless flower. We should have the freedom to choose.

Bear | 7/28/2009, 5:48 pm EST

EndProhibition, I have thought the same for quite a while. It’s almost like the Abu Ghirab pictures Obama said he would release but didn’t at the last second. Definitely eerie.

T. Slothrop | 7/29/2009, 8:55 am EST

I find it heartening that the common thread in the spectrum of opinion of those who read this blog is the love of noble weed.

Gentlemen, I salute you.

A bit off-topic | 7/29/2009, 10:36 am EST

Look away from pot for a moment.
Look at the history of the electric vehicle. Long running, well financed, clandestine PR campaigns managed to convince most of the public that they did not want and would never be able to own an electric vehicle or enjoy the many advantages of modern electric transportation.

Big auto and big oil and who knows who else won the war against EVs hands down. It’s over, for now.

There are obvious reasons why some interests would want the public to believe such a ridiculous and destructive lie.

Why would war on pot be any different?

Harry Anslinger | 7/29/2009, 5:11 pm EST

The government holds a patent for medical use of marijuana:
US Patent 6630507 – Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants
US Patent Issued on October 7, 2003

Abstract
Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease and HIV dementia.

Ironic ain’t it? The same government that says marijuana ain’t medicine owns a patent on it.
I’m always ready to think the drug czar might be a paid liar, like the rest of the shills in the government living large on our taxpayer dime.

Coach | 7/29/2009, 6:52 pm EST

Still waiting for news of a marijuana overdose……..

Yet alcohol and tobacco drain our health system……..and you can buy as much of it as you want!

blood for oil of olay | 7/30/2009, 9:10 pm EST

I am all for ending marijuana prohibition, but this idea that it is some kind of miracle substance is foolish. There is overwhelming evidence of its association with numerous behavioral disorders. Whether this relationship is causal or not is arguable, but certainly it is not unreasonable to suspect that a highly psychoactive substance is capable of producing such effects. Additionally, smoked marijuana is almost certainly damaging to the respiratory and circulatory systems. None of these potential health concerns merits prohibition, but downplaying or overlooking them is ignorant.

Anonymous | 7/31/2009, 9:21 am EST

Jed Clampett

And alcohol is a wonderful, party time enhancer that carries no risk or ill effects and it’s extreme consumption is celebrated rather than reviled… as long as a few selfish motherless goats can keep making themselves a bundle by pushing it on the public by way of the idiot box, print media, pop culture and eventually ubiquitousness.

Tobacco, in kind… a powerful alkaloid that when fresh, cured properly and the body isn’t overloaded with it; can bring forth peculiar feelings and sensations that the first timer can become enamored with and not even realize it; is accepted as a wonder drug. It’s detrimental effects upon the body’s systems, and therefore by extension the psyche, is a source of ill health all around; yet it’s insidious nature can be easily ignored because of it’s ubiquitousness and constant PR campaigns so that some of us also prefer to ignore it’s dangers and accept the poison to such a degree that we have no problem paying the extra extortion to the pushers when they jack up the price on the addicted.

Yet some would rile against a weed that has been found to have some great effects when not misused or abused; in their blindness and lobbying work for a failed class and ideology, they have flipped a magic coin that only has one face and always falls in their favor… or rather what they perceive to be their favor because they are mesmerized by the eyes of Cesar that stare back at them every time they look at it.
Eventually they find that what they thought was butter on their slice of bread was merely oleum, an artificial poison that was fed to them in small amounts in order to make them ignore the big picture and exist only within their cocoon and fun house of mirrors that distort reality.

Peace, it takes perseverance and the ability to recognize the ghost of a chance.

blood for oil of olay | 7/31/2009, 8:58 pm EST

Jed-
Do you really think big business and the media cause people to drink? Russia has one of the highest rates of alcohol consumption in the world. Up until recently, there was no real commercial marketing of booze there. People drink because it’s part of their culture. Business is just trying to make a buck.

Anonymous | 8/1/2009, 1:08 am EST

Desperation and a sense of impotence to achieve anything due to the overwhelming power of the oppressors drive people to drink, unfortunately, it’s the same oppressors that own the booze companies. They are perfectly willing to sell those in despair and destitution another nail for their spiritual as well as moral and physical coffin.

Unfortunately there are many blind morons willing to help them destroy their brothers and sisters.

the big picture | 8/1/2009, 7:37 am EST

For four hundred years, western society burned human beings alive for the “crime” of holding religious beliefs that differed from the norm. They did this because they convinced themselves that they had a “heresy problem,” and that problem needed a solution. You see, heretics were a threat to their culture and were out to corrupt their children. As they gleefully watched their screaming victims’ skin peel off atop the bonfires, these people actually believed that they were doing good. In retrospect, their actions seem beastly and evil beyond description, but at the time it was seen as heroically “protecting the children” and “cleaning up the neighborhood.”

Eventually, intelligent people began to grasp that this was wrong and that maybe, just maybe, people should simply have the right to choose for themselves what religious beliefs to hold. The heretic-burning masses were aghast. They could not imagine a world in which people are simply allowed to believe whatever they like; that would be chaos, society would surely collapse and God would probably also punish them for failing to enforce the “correct” point-of-view. They thus burned the intelligent people. The horrors of the “heresy war” were the classroom in which the human race learned the lesson of religious freedom. Though it took centuries, we have now officially passed that class. Society’s tolerance of the emergence of modern witchcraft was the final exam.

Now on to the next big lesson: people own their bodies and have an absolute, inalienable, basic human right to do anything they please with their bodies. There are no exceptions to this rule: any attempt to restrict an adult’s autonomy over his or her body constitutes a crime against humanity. The drug war is the new classroom in which we are learning this lesson. Once again the ignorant are using brutality to impose their ideas on “heretic” drug users. Once again they are able to believe that they are doing good even as they commit unspeakable atrocities. Once again intelligent people who grasp the real situation are pleading with the ignorant to stop, and once again the ignorant are utterly befuddled and terrified by the prospect of human freedom.

This is the great civil rights struggle of our time. Not only must prohibition itself come to an end, but the underlying errant philosophies and mindsets that make prohibition possible must be permanently expunged from our collective thinking before society can make any further social progress.

Anonymous | 8/1/2009, 3:29 pm EST

The easily deluded and manipulated are being played like marionettes dancing to a symphony of destruction.
The sad part is that those fools like the tune and don’t realize they are not the ones in control, but had handed the strings over to an unseen master.
Fortunately, there have been sages of all flags and credos to give us the solution, the keys to cut the strings if you will. But the task is not easy and the lazy prefer to avoid it. Some like to have their brains turned to much by a corrupted mind…. or is that mind-err?

blood for oil of olay | 8/1/2009, 11:54 pm EST

Jed-
Check out the St Kitts drunk monkies on youtube. I don’t think those little fellas are trying to forget the oppressor. They’re just trying to have a good time. Everybody’s workin for the weekend!

Anonymous | 8/2/2009, 8:21 am EST

Jed Clampett

Sure, I think I have a few minutes to dedicate to your entertainment/distraction, since I have nothing better to do…. NOT!!

Go back to rubbing petroleum on yourself and calling it beneficial.

blood for oil of olay | 8/3/2009, 10:40 pm EST

Okay, comments have been coded and tables have been assembled. I am testing algorithm a1a:

97% Jed will post a 250-350 word comment between 2330est and 0230est

64% the post will contain the word ‘dissemble’

44% the post will contain the word ‘obfuscate’

75% the post will meet criteria code: ‘invokes struggle b/w good and evil’

99% the post will meet criteria code: ’self righteous indignation’

Anonymous | 8/4/2009, 4:42 am EST

Jed Clampett

100% of shots go right over the bFOOL’s head and through his minder driving him insane with ignorance and revulsion at being outmaneuvered once again.

Strike another one up for the son of a snipe, the small mailman, the old fool with the floating house.
Muntz, his canines and the slogans of ‘the spirit of adventure’(?)… merely riding a zeppelin full of hot air ready to go down in flames… hey, look, squirrel!!! I believe you missed the bouncing ball, it’s in the mouth of a good canine.

BTW-who’d you get to set up the database for you? no way you have the mental capacity for that kind of technical expertise. Oh yea, It’s a database of Hard numbers like you used on the oil post. Good joke man… bo peep, lost ma sheep.

Peace all.

blood for oil of olay | 8/4/2009, 9:02 am EST

Jed-
I am claiming success! While your post came in under length and a little late, minor adjustments to a few parameters will be sufficient to improve the model. In fact timing and intensity have proven to be the most elusive characteristics to model. Clearly, the model was successful in predicting self righteous indignation. I am a little ambivalent about coding this as ‘invokes struggle b/w good and evil’. However the minder refrence IS suggestive of a larger conspiracy, perhaps one of cosmic proportions. So I am tentatively scoring this as a hit. All in all, this first test was a huge victory. I believe that over time the projected probabilities will converge to 100%. At that point it is very likely I will know what you are thinking as you think it. Finally I would like to point out that it was very telling to hear you characterize the task of building such a model as challrnging so as to require extraordinary ‘mental capacity’.

Anonymous | 8/4/2009, 2:50 pm EST

Jed Clampett

Maybe your imaginary model can explain why the president started using the Matrix references I have been using for a while. Or how Colbert started talking in song, Hakuna Mattata, as I’ve been doing on here.
How does that synchronicity work?

Most of my references go over your head, but that is expected, intelligence comes from spirit and compassion and it seems evident you are far from either. You must get beyond the ordinary, or the polluted, to attain what you call extra-ordinary and I call ordinary-Plus to attain the excellent.

A good number of the silent majority understand what I’m saying though, and if they get some hope from what is going on,then so much the better, pay it forward, it’s definitely making the horses stampede out of our barn.
Just look at your leadership, the congressional political right wing, they’ve been led by centurions all this time, so much so they are now screwing their own pony… or is that actually the other way around? A South Carolina equus having it’s way with you guys.

I don’t often develop a liking for a commercial, but the palm pre commercial playing online rocks. I imagine it to be Mother Earth saying…
‘my life
like all our lives
is made up of so many other lives
all of them rearranging themselves
All the time
Isn’t it beautiful when life simply flows together?’

Can you feel the realignment? Of oourse you can’t, you can’t feel.
It just says it all for me, because I understand the web of life, and how even within each of us, there are other individual lives evolving, advancing, making the whole more efficient, more advanced. If the host is working correctly, if you aren’t polluting it with toxins from artificial products, feeding the bad fungi with sugars, killing the sponges with excess of alcohol, tobacco, coffee, polluting the brain with constant bad thoughts, then you grow and evolve as a unit. Earth is much the same way because we are ourselves a copy of the same system in a smaller embodiment.

Of course it will go over your head because your dog, your guardian which you tossed out there with a different moniker and then I tossed back at you so you could rile on it, won’t let you understand it.
So then your horse kicks you in the head, and like it’s doing to the leadership of the republican party, it has it’s way with you.

But then again, it just went over your head like a shomaker’s comet. :D

Peace, it’s ours to make… don’t let them take it away, don’t give it away either. Let your fingers burn up their ears.

blood for oil of olay | 8/4/2009, 7:37 pm EST

WOW! I called that to within 8 minutes and 36 words; nailed the Colbert reference; the invocation of good versus evil; self righteous indignation; and delusions of grandeur. Missed on music reference, for some reason the model was suggesting that you were very likely to quote Rush. How about that…100-100-1? I also filtered your post on the latest thread under algorithm tf101, says your net worth claim is false; it also refuted your ‘turning Japanese’ claim. This is great stuff. Wait til I turn this loose on DD and Coach. I won’t even have to go to this site. I can just feed the model information and read back your ‘posts’.

Anonymous | 8/4/2009, 7:57 pm EST

priceless!!

:D

there’s a reason the sons of the snake crawl on the ground and strike out at anything that moves.

You’re a constant source of … well, you know.

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