Say it ain’t so, Joe. Or Barack. Or Hillary. Anyone, please, just say it ain’t so.

They’re all the same. Con/Lib. Doesn’t mean a thing. Crooks, every last one of them! Until we take to the streets nothing will change.

Obama desperately wants bipartisan support for this to throw the Republublicans under the bus.

Under this “plan,” the cost would be hidden from the GAO, because the money “saved” would be on the government side instead of the private side. So if you want a service that will actually save you, you’ll have to pay out of pocket while the government can claim a sugar pill (Obama mentioned just giving a person pain medication as a cheaper alternative than fixing the problem such as a broken hip) as a cheap generic medication that is available and therefore the person is “covered.”

This “plan” therefore allows Obama to claim universal health care (if you like sucking down pain and sugar pills) while not actually changing anything. This way enough Republicans would get on board to make his claim that it was bipartisan.

So, on the same day your party gets a “supermajority” in the senate. You wave a white flag on one of the platforms that got you elected.

People reacted like I was crazy. When I posted here that I don’t believe that Obama will back up what he is saying. Unfortunately, it started to look like I was right. By the way, I didn’t vote for McCain either. Anymore, there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats. They are both indebted to campaign contributers that gave them the most money.

Reactionary BS. He’s ‘wavered’ on all policies thus far, but in the end, they get passed. This is just another cynical reaction to our senators having a debate on something. At least in this term, we may get actual debate rather than ’shoved down your neck’ policy.

A public option will come of this. Period. We are at a point where there is no other choice. Every other industrialized nation has moved this direction. It’s more of an inevitability than a choice……

The economy, getting out of Iraq, and a quality health care program are the biggest challenges we face, and I hate to say it, but we’re getting screwed by the guy we elected to fix those things. WTF Obama? We wanted a leader who would FIGHT for us!

Maintaining the status quo is just too easy. The President is quickly learning that his inflated notions of hope and change resist all but the most committed efforts to wrestle them down to earth and ratchett them into place. H

No where does it say in the constitution that the federal government should be involved in this. Are we just supposed to throw out the rules?

The rules were tossed out long ago. Both parties were willing to stipulate that the rule of law is way too constraining. The Constitution does not say anything about natural disaster relief, energy policy, space exploration, central banking, food and drug safety, social security or public education. Nevertheless, the federal government is involved in all of these components of the
system we use to manage our civilization. This is just another step further along the path of increasing
centralization. I am not suggesting I prefer things thi
s way, but I doubt there is
much that can be done to stop it. There are plenty of alternatives to increasing the public sector’s role in healthcare, but no one’s doing anything to support them. Ult
imately centralization is just too enticingly rational.

The constitution also says that I can take up arms, but my hand grenades are illegal. What do we do about that Mr. Read?

Time to have a thought for yourself, people. The constitution is just a piece of paper that has been amended umpteen times. So has the Bible.

We’re all just sitting in front of our computers as we watch our country get flushed down the toilet…hey, I’m guilty too…I said “we’re”…This country is too complacent to fight against demagoguery and it sickens me. Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves…Politicians are scheisters…each and every one of them. When Al Franken gets elected to office, well, that should say it all right there! We’re in a heep o’trouble, boys!