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Vilsack on Corn, Ethanol, and Brazil

12/17/08, 2:22 pm EST

I interviewed Tom Vilsack during his 10 minute presidential run last year (I’m Tom Vilsack! Who the Hell Are You?).

The interview touched on ethanol and a few other topics now germane to his presumptive post of Ag Secretary. I think his freemarket stance on Brazilian sugar ethanol is likely to ruffle some feathers.

Another point is that Vilsack was a surrogate for Obama on environmental issues during the campaign. As a sign of how seriously Obama appears to be taking climate change it is telling that he’s stocked not only Energy but also Commerce and Agriculture with secretaries who get the big think on the energy and climate transformation the nation desperately needs to undergo.

RS: You’re from Iowa and a big ethanol fan. But isn’t ethanol just a diversion on the issue of climate change. It may help get us away from foreign oil, but isn’t it misleading to talk about ethanol in terms of climate security. All that corn alcohol still gives off CO2 when it burns.

Vilsack: It is a cleaner burning fuel. But this is not just about ethanol and, frankly, corn-based ethanol is not necessarily the wave of the future. Ethanol may be but corn is not. There’s not enough corn. There needs to be focus on switch grass, on municipal waste, on timber, on other ways to produce ethanol that is more efficient and burns more efficiently and uses less energy to produce it. Corn was the entryway to this discussion. It’s by no means the end all be all.

This country probably also needs to take a different view on the sugar-cane ethanol produced in Brazil. We put a big tariff on it. We should look to ultimately eliminating that so that we get the supply of ethanol that lets Detroit produce flex-fuel cars and develop that industry.

This issue of energy security is clearly about conservation. Substantial conservation. I’m here in Miami talking with the mayor and we discussed his challenge by 2030 having zero carbon emissions coming from new construction in cities across the country. That’s a challenge that the national government should accept and meet.

It’s also about the expansion of renewables. The state of Iowa happens to be number one in wind production, per capita, and we’re third in production capacity. It’s a whole new opportunity for the state of Iowa to utilize a resource that’s essentially free.

It needs to be a massive national interest led by a president who can show that this is not just pie in the sky this is not just something that’s talked about every four years. I’m a candidate who can actually point to progress in my state in this area.

RS: You’ve seen the Daily Show “Vilsack!” bit. You strike me as a very serious guy. Are you able to laugh about that?

Vilsack: Listen, PT Barnum once said it doesn’t make any difference what they say as long as they keep talking about you. I think it’s great. People don’t have to remember my name, they only have to remember the first letter which is V. It stands for vision, it stands for victory, it stands for Vilsack.


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For Obama--- Against ethanol | 12/18/2008, 7:26 am EST

Stanford Professor, Mark Z. Jacobson’s new study ranks corn ethanol and cellulosic ethanol last in a list of possible solutions to energy security/pollution.(See Energy and Environmental Science Advance Articles)

Change the crops | 12/18/2008, 10:29 am EST

jerasulem artichokes: 800 gal./acre
Sugarcane: 600 gal./acre
Sorghum cane: 500 gal./acre
Sugar Beets: 410 gal./acre
Potatoes: 300 gal./acre
Corn: 215 gal./acre
Do we understand yet?

Anonymous | 12/18/2008, 1:37 pm EST

Jed Clampett

I bet hemp will yield alot more, but the morons are too stuck on prohibiting things from people to make any concessions on something that would make sense.

Peace

D&C | 12/18/2008, 3:32 pm EST

Same source as the Steven’s quote there? :)

Anonymous | 12/18/2008, 4:11 pm EST

Jed Clampett

You still think it was a quote? damn you are beyond stupid, huh?

special schooling candidate? Must be.

Peace

Meltdown | 12/18/2008, 4:24 pm EST

The whole ethanol debate, in my mind, doesn’t address the REAL problem here. We are intelligent enough, and evolved enough to eliminate the middle man (gas station), but refuse to. Battery technology is good enough right now for a great percentage of people to be able to use a car that never has to go to the gas station, therefore saving themselves money.

Save the ethanol technology for the trucks and suvs and such. Develop battery technology for the rest of us who don’t have trucks and don’t drive more than 100 miles a day.

We’re hurting for jobs here in America, but, yet, we’ve been hearing about importing ethanol. Therefore, we’re just trading one drug for another….

Teacher | 12/18/2008, 11:42 pm EST

You sure have an anger problem Mr. Clampett, you shouldn’t be such a hater towards this with special needs.

Obameter | 12/19/2008, 12:37 am EST

I’d prefer to eat corn than burn it. Isn’t it wrong to pay a higher price for food corn because a higher % of the yield is going to ethanol?

I’m convinced we’re getting screwed somehow on battery technology. We’ve got to bring the price down too. We need a locally produced battery car in the metro areas for commuters. And yeah, meltdown, save the ethanol for the trucks.

D&C | 12/19/2008, 10:57 am EST

No issue with intelligence here, just wanted to you to admit for the rest here that your “quotes” and “facts” are not real and made up. Doesn’t do much for your credibility does it?

Sowega | 12/19/2008, 11:26 am EST

Anyone who cites Jacobson as their only source for anti-bioenergy arguments cannot be taken seriously.

Thank the deities of the harvest that Obama picked an Ag sec. that knows something about agriculture.

Anonymous | 12/19/2008, 12:00 pm EST

Jed Clampett

You’re the only imbecile that thought it was a quote. Particularly because it wasn’t in quotation marks and it was attributed to the entire republican body that attended the ‘farewell for a felon’ event. So, since you were the only one that actually THOUGHT there was a quote there, an intelligence issue truly has been raised. Good Job dimwit.

Peace

Coach | 12/19/2008, 1:33 pm EST

Jed, I’ve been waiting for a week for you to mention that you weren’t quoting anybody. Kudos.

Tajed Clempt | 12/19/2008, 4:53 pm EST

Coach, your last post only confirms what many of us have suspected for a long time: when you are not instructing Bender in the ways of the Kama Sutra apocrypha, you are cravingly awaiting Jed’s next post.

Coach | 12/19/2008, 6:01 pm EST

Gee, can’t get anything past you guys….sort of.

This whole time I was actually waiting for the next braincramp to spew out of your piehole. Nice effort Taj.

tajed clempt | 12/19/2008, 10:49 pm EST

happy to oblige

TinFoilHat | 12/20/2008, 9:24 pm EST

Change the crops,

Agreed, here’s another:
Hemp: 2,000 gal./acre

DirtyDennis | 12/22/2008, 5:04 pm EST

I see 1 in 5 think Cheney’s the worst vp ever. Where’d they do the poll? Cheyenne?

Why not cut to the chase and ask if he’s the worst ‘public servent’ EVER. Perhaps it’s time it itemize the ‘Cheney Legacy.’ Besides death and mayhem, what else has he left behind? Okay, besides liars and purjurers.

Anonymous | 12/23/2008, 12:06 pm EST

Jed Clampett

the rest realize that VP was only his cover, they understand that he was the real president.

Peace

TinFoilHat | 12/28/2008, 5:26 pm EST

Anyone look at those numbers? To summarize: Hemp = 10X the yield of Corn. So why is this plant illegal? You can’t get high off of industrial hemp. Maybe the Oil companies recognize a threat to their commercial viability when they see it. Do I smell another conspiracy?

Against Obama | 12/29/2008, 4:28 pm EST

LIBERAL BRAIN TWISTER OF THE DAY:

Liberal give of CO2 when they breath, can they stop breathing now?

TinFoilHat | 12/29/2008, 5:10 pm EST

Nope, sorry. BTW, you mouth breathers put out 30% more CO than someone who breathes through their nose. Why don’t you do us a favor and stop hyperventilating.

CCo...ISP | 1/5/2009, 6:53 pm EST

Ethanol was and always will be a joke. The idea was so poorly thought out and was only implemented by politicians who were too eager to wait on technological development (and a shifting economic marketplace) that would allow for real alternative fuels.

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