At this point, should anyone be surprised?

Jed Clampett

Watching ‘Real Time’ and Bill has the head of the Wall Street Journal, whose exhibiting all the craziness the republicants typically employ. Interrupt like an uneducated fool. Spout off republican talking points regardless of how much they have been discredited. Talk over all others because they don’t know how to listen. And now, defending the inane Palin and being proud that she may be the first Woman President. Even he recognizes McCain will probably croak in office, but seems unperturbed by her lack of knowledge or honesty… and now she may be a felon.

PRICELESS

Peace

Time for Sarah to bow out of politics and go home to have babies.

It’s the republican dream, isn’t it>

LOL!

Time for Sarah to bow out of politics and go home to have babies.

It’s the republican dream, isn’t it?

LOL!

Though definitely news, I don’t think this information is going swing a single vote. Wooden was a real bozo and the ruling concluded that this was only part of the reason for the chief’s firing. Its not exactly a burning issue for anyone.

Jed, Jed, don’t get so outraged that your grammar &/or spelling go down the tubes. That would be WHO’S exhibiting, not “whose”. Don’t make me lose faith in you!
As for Palin, it’s got to be incredibly galling to her that her felonious behavior was exposed pre-election. And finally, does her behavior in Alaska resemble “witchcraft”, or just good old fashioned nepotism? After all, her pastor gained his fame (& expulsion from Kenya) by burning “witches” alive,and we all know Palin underwent that ridiculous quasi-ceremony to protect her from “witchcraft”, so it’s obvious she believes in this sh*t. Apparently, Alaska in 2008 resembles Salem in the 17th century. Who could possibly be more qualified to be VP (and probably P) than Palin the felon and her witchcraft coterie?
Yeah, Palin, time to go home and be proud to bear another “challenged” child who you can drag out at 11PM to show us your devotion to motherhood.

Jed Clampett

Sorry Joanne, 0240 tends to force some mistakes. Glad to see you back. Wish you best of luck in your ‘war of the frequencies’ (read Georges Lakhovsky’s ’secret of life’ to understand more).

Thanks for elucidating on the guy who performed the ceremony on Palin. I thought that guy would be rotting in prison in Africa somewhere, I guess he had amassed enough cash to convince the ‘church’ to allow him to stay in Alaska and even perform ceremonies.
Quite telling that Palin would allow such a ceremony to be performed on her. Says that she is willing to follow the crowd without actually thinking through for herself what it actually meant and what the consequences could be.
As TFH says, it’s not likely to change any one’s mind, the people supporting the Republican ticket at this point are truly ‘diehard’ supporters that will not be persuaded to see reality. If they were true Christians they would understand the incongruence of the repubicans actions and statements with their supposed beliefs, perhaps they think that merely believing that Jesus existed is enough, rather than understanding the message and putting it into practice.
To me, that is the epitome of deception and therefore an indication of the evil within. We can only hope they get illuminated by the time the election rolls around. I guess we merely have to have faith that Spirit will do something to change their minds. Hopefully something not to drastic.

Peace

Color me surprised…a republican accused of breaking the law and trying to deny it…AFTER the report comes out…go back to Alaska you moose killing redneck.

Just reading about the two Nuns labled as terrorists by HS. Wow, can their be a more offensive ‘crime’ than the abuse of power?

The ’signal’ is sent from the Executive and it’s received, welcomed, and parroted by the surrogates.

The message: Anything goes as long as it’s part of our ideology.

“May I see your ticket Mr. Stevens.”

“Ah, yes, you’ll be boarding that space ship over there. Going to one of the Moons of Jupiter, I believe.”

Jed Clampett

Abuse of power IS the worst crime imaginable. The founding fathers sure thought so and Hitler proved it. In my country it lead to the disappearance of opponents and the torture of many others.
Could it happen here? Why not, has happened before. Remember what was done to Asians in WWII. Or Arabs after 9/11… as long as they weren’t connected to the Bin Ladens or other Rich Soudis, who got a chartered plane home.

Funny you should mention Jupiter. Remember Shomaker-Levy 9? It created a new big spot on the gas giant. Wonder what is actually going on under there.

Peace

My god man. These half truth republicans will run what’s left of the fluted plain into the sub-terrain. The fact that W won twice makes one worry that Palin’s actions won’t matter to the 51% of nincompoops that voted these goobers in. Abuse of power; hmmmm—sounds familiar. Let’s hope the combination of Bush’s last 8 years and the poor v.p. choice by the warmonger will sway some of the right wingers.
Let’s not vote in a man who has been chained up for years and tortured.
Joe Biden makes Palin look like the retard her pregnant daughter carries around for her.
Hard to believe ANYONE would vote for these two fakers.

Jed Clampett

Wow, just read up on the story out of Maryland on the Nuns and the other peaceful activists that were listed in the terrorism database.
When everything goes haywire, these folks would be the ones being disappeared and tortured.

What country is this again? Why are our police departments working like the Stazi?
What’s next? They start posing as protesters at rallies and start making mayhem in order to give the police an excuse to use force against the protesters?
Reminds me of a story on the news a while back where the police fired upon a Florida attorney that was peacefully protesting, she was hit in the back with a rubber bullet. A few minutes later, they shot her through a sign she was holding in front of her face as she crouched out of the way. This time she was hit in the forehead with another rubber bullet, she was very lucky she didn’t get hit in an eye.
A video was later released of the officers debriefing after the protest where the cops laughed about the injuries inflicted on the attorney and called her all sorts of names.
Is this how our officers who are supposed to serve and protect behave? What exactly are we allowing our policemen to get away with? Shouldn’t people who violate another’s human and civil rights be penalized, especially the police who should be held to a much higher standard and should know better?

Peace

Sh!t like that is happening everywhere, Jed. The next county over we have a State’s Attorney who is under fire for his rouge tactics and affinity for using plea bargains to get more convictions and pad his resume. One such plea allowed a psychopath to go free and go on a killing spree that left 8 people dead, including a two year old child. Despite this and other questionable activity, our law enforcement community has issued a letter unequivocally supporting the State’s Attorney. One supporter, a high-ranking county detective, recently went to his wife’s work and proceeded to beat the snot out of her in front of her co-workers. Instead of letting the puke spend the night in jail were he belonged, a judge was called in for an after-hours bond hearing so the man could go home. Many of the cops around here act like they are above the law, and use their authority to intimidate and harass citizens, even breaking the law to do so. On the positive side, the State’s Attorney had been running unchallenged in this election. But thankfully someone has come forward to challenge him, as a write-in candidate. Because people around here are sick of this kind of crap, she has a real chance of beating him. Go Amy!

Dennis, Jed, BurnDaddy,

Its amazing and scary. Since 9/11 the paranoids have been running things in this country to a greater and greater degree. Programs to coordinate local police departments, HLS, FBI, and CIA training, at least some of it from ill-informed paranoid islamophobes like Daniel Pipes.

Just look at the DNCC and the RNCC in Denver and Minneapolis. The police-state atmosphere, state-sanctioned violence, mass sweeps (even journalists), justified by the city governments using the most ridiculous scare tactics. After the DNCC, the Denver cops sold T-shirts saying “We get up early to BEAT the crowds” (I am not kidding, look it up!)

FAIR has an interesting report on the mainstreaming of Islamofobic bias in our culture as facilitated by several key people. I think this may be part of the real problem. Check it out at:

smearcasting.com

Just to clarify my previous comment (hopefully this isn’t confusing):

Maybe the discriminatory opression of an officially vilified minority necessarily results in a state of opression for all citizens.

TinMan,

I wouldn’t qualify that statement. I believe it’s an absolute.

Once you establish a pattern, or ‘culture,’ if you will, it is self-perpetrating. The military needs ‘enemies’ to sustain it and if unchecked, will actually engage those enemies, unprovoked. We’re witnessing that now.

Police need criminals and in the absence of such, new ones will be created.

About a month ago I was ‘approached’ by narcs ’cause I had purchased iodine at two different drug stores, three bottles over the course of a couple of weeks. (My wife is a Ukrainian nurse that uses the stuff on everything, even chickens. Even, sadly, me.) The cops separated my wife and I, took us to the parking lot and began interrogating us.

I almost blew it by losing my cool, which is, one has to believe, part of their goal. If I’m ‘innocent’ of being a meth-maker, then maybe they can ‘bag’ me for ‘disturbing the peace,’ or, better, resisting arrest.

It is not difficult to imagine that those discriminating against blacks would, in the absence of blacks, turn their wrath upon anyone of color. After that, what, black Irish?

“Nincompoops,” riddance? You’re too kind. We’re dealing with the same mentality that is responsible for the pogroms (??) in Russia and the Serb/Croate bloodbath of the last decade (and given the fecklessness of our MSM, probably continues unreported.)

Jed Clampett

You’ve hit the upon the key.
They believe they are above the law.
As one officer told me one early morning around 4 AM for going UNDER the speed limit, ‘I am the law’, he was a bit miffed when I reminded him he was merely a representative of it, unless he was also a judge.
When a police department allows their officers to put three bullets into a citizen as was done to an Iraq war soldier on leave in California, and even though there was video showing the officer commanding him to stand up before shooting this department then called the shooting justified, you must realize there is something very wrong with the culture of the system.
The system itself has been corrupted and profaned, and for something that deep to happen… that the culture of the department is one of disdain for the public, the permissiveness and corruption has to come from the leadership, the very top.
Why do police need a ‘blue wall of silence’ if not to collude in criminal activity? Did LA’s Rampart division fiasco not prove that?
I lived my early years under the oppressive military regime of Augusto Pinochet, I can tell you from experience that when the leadership gives it’s security personnel the impetus to abuse the public, they will do so and even take advantage of it for themselves and do way more than would be permissible.
In Chile now, when an officer is involved in a discharge of his weapon, he spends the time while the investigation is conducted in jail, this policy has helped reduce the number of shootings involving police, now police have more of an incentive to find less violent means of defusing a conflict.
There is no reason a man should die in a hail of bullets at the hand of ‘trained officers’ because he reached for his wallet to get his identity as Amadou Diallo did. Or to die as Sean Bell did because officers IMAGINED something dangerous.

A man investigating the abuse by the catholic church described it thus… (I paraphrase)’when I first started investigating this I thought it was a few individual bad apples. As I learned more I thought it was a cult within the church. When I had finished I was appalled to realize that it was actually the culture of the institution that allowed this to happen and protected the perpetrators.’

While what is happening in our police apparatus is not as perverse as what the church has allowed, it is probably more dangerous, as police have lost respect for the public, which gives them the necessary justification to treat all people like the worst of criminals.
Just watch a couple of episodes of Cops to understand that. Notice how they treat people, particularly those of modest means who probably can’t afford legal representation.

Peace

Jed,

Hard to believe they believe they’re above the law, thats a level of arrogance unfamiliar to me, but you must be right. Madam Payola is claiming the investigation proved her innocent of any wrongdoing.

Just out of curiosity, I looked up WRONGDOING “noun: activity that transgresses moral or civil law”

Wow, that’s a pretty widespeeding generalization. I’m sure I’ve transgressed moral or civil law once or twice in my life.

I guess Busney felt they weren’t breaking an ‘civil’ law ’cause they went to the UN (sortta) and told Iraq if they didn’t stop what they were doing we’d invade them.

“Stop what? What are we dong?”

“Making WMDs.”

“No, we’re not.”

“Liars. Bombs away.”

Of course, morally it’s a slam dunk (can you slam dunk morals?). By invading Iraq, we’re making the world a safer place.

What’s that? Oh. We’re making the world safer for everyone EXCEPT Iraqis.

What’s that? Okay, add Afghanis, too. And Pakistanis? And Iranians? Okay, okay, at least Americans are safe.

What’s that? Jeez, okay, make that CAUCASIAN Americans are safe. Jeez, picky, picky, picky.

Barack Hussein Osama is not safe from the Bushney thugs, they will expose him for the turd-burgling-but-puppy that he is.

I think all of you better review your spelling and grammar. I’m going shopping for some comfortable shoes and I think I’ll have some fish tacos for lunch! Woo-hoo,WaMu!

TD: “… veep broke the law”

NYT: “The inquiry found, however, that she was within her right to dismiss her public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, who was the trooper’s boss.”

Following the link finds that you’re a liar and propagandist, Tim. Was Palin’s move inappropriate? Yeah, of course. Did she break any rules doing it? No. I bet many politicians in Washington have done something similar in their careers.

From the AP.

“Sarah Palin unlawfully abused her power as governor by trying to have her former brother-in-law fired as a state trooper, the chief investigator of an Alaska legislative panel concluded Friday… ”

Definition of “unlawfully”

1. Not lawful; illegal.
2. Contrary to accepted morality or convention; illicit.
3. Of, relating to, or being a child or children born to unmarried parents.

So, not only does Sarah Palin meet this definition, but so does her yet to be born granddaughter.

Barack Osama’s mavericky veep is an acknowledged plagiarist.

From NYT Sept. 18 1987:

The file distributed by the Senator included a law school faculty report, dated Dec. 1, 1965, that concluded that Mr. Biden had ”used five pages from a published law review article without quotation or attribution” and that he ought to be failed in the legal methods course for which he had submitted the 15-page paper.

The plagiarized article, ”Tortious Acts as a Basis for Jurisdiction in Products Liability Cases,” was published in the Fordham Law Review of May 1965. Mr. Biden drew large chunks of heavy legal prose directly from it, including such sentences as: ”The trend of judicial opinion in various jurisdictions has been that the breach of an implied warranty of fitness is actionable without privity, because it is a tortious wrong upon which suit may be brought by a non-contracting party.”

Way to cite news that only 21 yrs. old. What does that have to do with Palin being unethical in the use of her governorship? Are you saying that Biden cheating on a paper in college is the same as Palin abusing her powers as governor???

First of all, this issue continues to rear its ugly head for Biden, so it’s not exactly old news. One breach of ethics involves a visceral response to mistreatment of a sibling, the other suggests a tendency for dishonesty and misrepresentation in order to take advantage of a situation. While I think Palin is more or less a moron, in the interest of being fair and balanced, I thought I’d provide the counterpoint. Personally I can relate to the person who goes a bit far in defending her sister better than I can the person who cheats to get ahead. Take your best shot at twisting that statement to serve whatever purpose you like, but in the end Biden is a lying cheater with a big mouth. Palin’s just a moron.

“Palin is a moron”. That’s about the most agreeable statement I’ve heard from you. Couldn’t agree more.

One’s a moron, the other’s a bozo. Big deal. They are NOT the issue.

This is about ideology. If you vote GOP, you’re going to get a bunch of loonies who think they’ve been chosen by God to ‘lead,’ that do NOT believe that all humans deserve equal, equitable treatment and are NOT above using force to attain that which they believe belongs to them, courtesy of the aforementioned God.

I won’t go into what the Dem’s views are ’cause ANYTHING would be better than the Jerks In Charge Now.

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.

Fool me THRICE …, well I like not to consider the possibility.

If anyone thinks the pathetic whimpering out of Dirty Diklikker is any more worthy than my Turdistani ramblings, then that person is truly a moron and a bozo. Diklikker, like many others who post here, seem to have fallen into the trap of framing his arguments in terms of hackneyed rhetoric which he passes of as insightful discourse. While this may satisfy the ineffectual weaklings who have no other outlets for their passions than this space, it is hardly worthy of consideration by people of real substance. Get your head out of your ass, Diklikker. The whole system is corrupt and the people who are to blame are the ones who b_y into the us/them ideologies that your arguments reinforce. And don’t even start in on my credibility. You have none. You are an ideologue. You compromise your own judgment for the sake of a comforting good-guy bad-guy schema that makes sense to your little mind.

Luke Jaywalker 2009!

Guilty as charged young man. I AM ideologically driven. And I come by it the old-fashioned way; I earned it. I earned it by watching 50 years of politics.

Along the way I have had light-weights such as yourself ridicule and demean my position, some doing it a much more base manner than you have chosen. I always see that as validation of my position. If a person is only capable of derisive comments and slander then I have to conclude they have nothing to offer.

Coincidently, today in a long-buried thread, someone used one of my long favorite quotes, by John Stuart Mill:

I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.

I look at the drivel you write and then I read Mr. Mill, and I wonder, “Whom should I take more seriously?” It IS a dilemma.

50 years of following politics and the best you can do is make your point with some lame quote from JSM? You must be joking.