Tim,

More of McCain’s tarnished past.
http://www.vietnamveteransagain stmccain.com/

Well Tim, in since you’ve done such a great job on back checking Palin’s and McCain’s past, where’s your 10 page story on Biden and Obama??? Oh wait, you’re voting for them… wouldn’t want you to be unbiased and throw mud at your own candidates now Tim? Your a disgrace to journalism…

I’m voting for Obama/Biden, but would like to see a similar story on them. However, since when did reporting the facts ever make ANYone a disgrace to journalism? And that would be “you’re” – not “your.” Just since we’re being correct and all…

Part of journalism is to be unbiased, reporting only the facts on ALL sides. He can report all the facts on McCain and Palin he pleases(and most are even manipulated and contorted)but he hasn’t done even 1 negative story on Obama. I challenge anyone to scroll through 10, 50, 100 pages of this “Vote for Obama” blog that has hardly anything to do with real National Affairs to show me 1, just 1 story where he dishes it out on Obama. There are 4-6 on McCain/Palin every 10 stories.

There is no excuse for voting republican this year. Unless you’re willing to admit that you are racist.

@TinFoilHat- That’s probably one of the most offensive statements I’ve heard in a while… So, if I think differently, I’m racist. Great to know that’s how you think…

Can you provide me a single other excuse for voting republican?

Anonymous,
The fairness doctrine was killed by Regan back in the ’80s. Even so, it never applied to the Stone. I’m just curious, when you read the Rolling Stone for news, what predisposition do you expect?

well well.. i see some post-ers on here are still willing to toss their free will aside and fall in line with the other PORK eating zombies.. does your fox news mother sing bed time songs to you about the big bad towel heads and how daddy bush saved us from the devils.. Listen man. we have an amazing opportunity this year to find truth from the Internet/youtube/etc.. lets give the propaganda press in this country the finger and remember that we are not slack zombies meant to wallow while the fat cats get away with murder.. in many ways mind you.. BTW. SOME OF YOU ARE THE REASON “AMERICANS” SUCK!! although you probably haven’t traveled the world much, have you? that is all

well well.. i see some post-ers on here are still willing to toss their free will aside and fall in line with the other PORK eating zombies.. does your fox news mother sing bed time songs to you about the big bad towel heads and how daddy bush saved us from the devils.. Listen man. we have an amazing opportunity this year to find truth from the Internet/youtube/etc.. lets give the propaganda press in this country the finger and remember that we are not slack zombies meant to wallow while the fat cats get away with murder.. in many ways mind you.. BTW. SOME OF YOU ARE THE REASON “AMERICANS” SUCK!! although you probably haven’t traveled the world much, have you? that is all

A 10 page report on Obama is not quite necessary. Obama has been up front about his life as a young adult, his experimentations, and how he pulled himself out of his struggle. A 10 page report on Obama is not necessary, because Barack doesn’t have a silver spoon raising to hide, to seem like a everyday Joe 6 pack. Let’s not waste the editorial ink on facts that do not need to be argued. The truth is that McCain is the ultimate flip-flop, and it sounds like he has been his entire life. Remember he didn’t like America until he became a POW, he didn’t find God, until he was a POW, why don’t we just hang him on the cross and will him back to life – oh wait, that wouldn’t be very Maverick of him either – More of the McSame

“Racism” need not be conscious to be influential. We wonderful humans have the ability known as “cognitive dissonance” – rationalize whatever real conflict may exist between our mind and our heart, smokers know that smoking is bad for instance but do it anyway because . . . ; our unconscious feelings will surface on occasion particularly in how we react to someone of a different race; People who say, for instance, “I have a lot of non-white friends” assume that they are not racist and that they “have no problem with a black person as president – just not Barack Hussein Obama”. These are all symptoms of rationalizing our choices. There is no shame in admitting this. NPR did a study of uncommitted voters and how their racial attitudes subconsciously affects their voting preferences.

Obama is a Marxist, plain and simple. Can’t be logically argued any other way. If that is what you want, then that is what you will get.

BTW… what party do you think would strong arm lenders to make loans to low income and minority people? It sure would’nt be the “party for the rich” as many would like to think. When you had to have 20% down and a good credit score to get a loan, we did’nt have this mess, period. Credit is too easy to get. I am guilty of over extending myself, but don’t expect the government to bail me out when I do. We need not look further than our own mirror to discover alot of the problems our country is having.

JD,
You are an idiot. Obama isn’t a marxist, he’s not even that liberal. This mess is the result of de-regulation. You can thank McCain advisor Phil Graham, ex-Fed Chief Alan Greenspan, and other right-wing idiots for this disaster.

Republicans always rail against “socialized” this and that when it comes to maintaining equality of opportunity. Now that it’s wall street having the problem, we’re supposed to just throw money at them. The result? Privatized gains, socialized losses. So who is the “nanny state” helping out this time? It’s sure not anyone I know.

Tim, what an unbelievable article. So well written and quite powerful. I actually utilized it as a comparison to another supposed hero, but of the search & rescue community. I’d love to know what you think. You can see the article on Self-Proclaimed Heroes and Lessons in Humility) at my foundation’s blog at landofpuregold.wordpress. com/

Great article, Mr. Dickinson. I had read pieces of the story elsewhere, but this really brings it all together into a picture of John McCain as a vicious, dangerous nepotist.

Bush’s twin.

John McCain is the unrelenting pimple on the backside of Rush Limbaugh that kept Rush out of the Vietnam conflict. It’s good to see that not every publication in this near facist nation has not been cowed by these monsters. Thanks for a great expose of the creep known as John McCain. Unlike Obama who constantly refers, with great deference and respect to McShame’s service to our country, I have no qualm in calling him out as a lying, presumptous hypocrite. And I approve this message.

Maybe you should get the “tinfoil” from in front of your eyes, and see this person for who he is. Have you even bothered to look at this guys voting record? He is not even liberal????? WTF? And you call me a idiot. What has happened to the democratic party? It was JFK that said “Ask not what your country can do for you, what can you do for your country?” Now the leftist code pink/move on nutjobs have hijacked the party. Now they want the govt to do everything for em. SAD

I tell ya every time I look at that guy, I think of MINI-Me. Mccain is the same thing to bush ergo MINI-b.

JD,
Did you read the article or not? Unlike the crp you guys peddle, this is all veritably true and backed by an author willing to take responsibility for his words.

Then you come out with some kind of stupid statement like “Obama is a Marxist” and think its logical? You sir ARE an idiot. There’s no other logical argument to be made.

Keep up the good work. I’ve followed this phony for years and he’s as conservative as they come. I honestly think that he’s going to blow a gasket before the election. He’s SOOOO stuck on power it’s scary.

Emilio.

Actually, Limbaugh had what is known as a ‘gay polup’ which got him a note to stay out of the Vietnam conflict.
Find the pictures of Rush online when he started in radio and YOU DESIDE.

@Anonymous

What planet are you on? Or you just have a case of selective attention? Obama has been campaigning for what, almost two years now? He has been the most scrutinize candidate on the damn planet! McCain (and thanks Tim) is so phoney and full of it! He is definitely all hype and no substance. And Palin? The America public has only known this woman for five weeks! And from what I have read and seen of her lately, I found her to be despicable and just plan disgusting!

McCain is a REAL COMMIE COLLABORATOR, CRIME BACKED ELITIST.
Even supported in part by the rights favorite guilt-by-association target, SOROS.

The SAD PART, HE was still the BEST the GOP could put-up even though THEY KNOW ALL THIS!

Names WorldNetDaily or Jerome R. Corsi sound familiar?
The GOP is DEAD.

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The problem with the McCain campaign is that they have no positive, productive message of their own, no specific policies for improving the economy that differ from those of GWB, no solutions for improving America’s standing among foreign nations, no significant platform whatsoever. He is a one-trick pony pushing his vague concept of being a “reformer” and a “maverick”.

As a result, he has relied on negative attack ads and speeches from the get-go. Desperate times call for desperate measures, and McCain is a desperate man whose blind ambitions have clouded any sense of judgement, fairplay, and code of ethics. (Palin, on the other hand, never had a code of ethics–only a holier-than-thou sense of morality.)

McCain and Palin have regressed from “gutter politics” to “sewer politics”.

You liberals make me sick!!! For years McCain has been a thorn in the GOP’s side. Every time you turn around McCain was drafting legislation with Kennedy, Liberman, Feingold and others on the left. The Demorats really loved pointing it out too. They would refer to McCain as being bi-partisan and able to “meet in the middle” on various issues. Then…… he ran for president, and all of a sudden their “republican buddy” was nothing but a Bush clone and a far right fascist. You need to make up your minds……oh wait you or your candidate cant seem to do that. I hope he continues to be unable to make a decision when president (if he wins) because I would hate what those decisions would do to our country.

J.D.

You do realize that you are just proving everybody right, especially the #1 myth. He has changed his stances on a whole bunch of issues while running for president in 2008. He had to appeal more to the conservative republican base after the primaries. He has become hypocritical in all seriousness. That is a major reason that I am worried about voting such a man into office.

Brilliant expose! This is damning! an October surprise indeed for McSame. Now somebody should look into his medical condition–with his half-drooped eye and disorientation and refusal to disclose his full medical records, it’s all suspiciously like McCain’s hiding something. And should something happen to him–Palin taking over?! Oh my Gosh, I shudder at the thought.

You can easily break down into categories who will still support McCain despite all the facts:
1. Ultra-rich who greed for more tax-breaks;
2. Oil executives, big tobacco, big media, and other corporate lobbyists;
3. Racists–who can’t bear to vote for a black man despite that man ultimately going to improve their lives;
4. Low-IQ ignorants who believe everything they’re told by their exploitative false-preachers;
5. War-mongers who want more wars;

Now who’s for Obama:
- decent men, women and children;
- hard-working Americans who just want a living-wage;
- real Christians;
- intelligent, educated folk;
- diverse folk;
- people who believe in equality for all;

I bet you get all your news off this site or MTV, or New York Slimes, or Washington Compost. McCain dosent have unrepentant terrorists, racist preachers, or slum lords as close associates. And the Obama followers are the ones always playing the race card, just ask the Clintons!!! Once again you will see a red dominated map with the exception of the west coast, northeast, and greatlakes. 60% of americans consider themselves conservative or somewhat conservative. That being said why dont you kool aid drinkers move to europe where you can have the govt take care of you. As for me, I can take care of myself.

Oh, if you would had only mentioned more of his shady dealings. More recent like the favor land deal in CA, for his developer friend in Arizona, Don Diamond. Diamnond,also big backer of all Republican candidates, hosted Bush to the tune of least 100,000 buck securtiy bill for the taxparers of Tucson.

Or how about his son’s big involvement with the savings and loan that went under, just before this bailout?

There is much more about Mc Shame that I am sure, can be told. Let’s really get it out.

Great Job, on this article!

FROOT!

JD / Anonymous.

Who cares. The great switch will be danced once again and we will move over to the Liberal side. You lose. Plain and simple. For now….

JD:

You said “60% of americans consider themselves conservative.”

Not coincidentally that’s also the number of Americans that have below average IQs. See the connection?

The guys at Rolling Stone clearly have a sickness. How mentally shallow and emotionally corrupt do you have to be in order to say “[well...you know..he was only tortured for part of the 5 years he was a POW...so forget what he went through..]”

Obama still has his wife that hates America and only ditched his racist pastor a few months ago. I don’t think anyone looks at McCain as perfect but at least most of the issues with his personal life are from 40+ years ago and not 5 months ago.

Rolling Stone is part of the problem; part of the reason the people of this country care so much about candidates personal lives and mistakes. Instead of caring about who will make the best leader.

Yes, I would like to see a similar story digging into the background of Obama and Biden, but we know that will never happen. It would be more like a sanctimony to all Obama has acheived since Biden is basically ignored anyway, but you’d be lucky if it filled up half a page.
The fact is, we can all agree that 2008 will go down in history as the year that journalism died. Sensationalism has taken over, since the media is convinced that we are all just minions whose prosperity has made us so fat,lazy, and bored, that we need to be fed modified and exaggerated half-truths to keep us interested.
What is even more sad is that so many will believe the hype, just like they believe the crap in the rags at the checkout stand.

journalism started dying years ago thanks to the likes of Fox News and Rupert Murdoch

All you Republicans are pissed cause the Dems are finally taking a page form your book and using it against you.

I served 6 years in the US Army and am life long republican who will be voting democrat for the first time in my life. Mccain cheated and left his sick wife. Mccain was a undisciplined soldier who crashed more missions than not. Mccain was 5th to last in his class. Obama was the first black president of Harvard law review and was voted in by conservatives who trusted him. Palin is a disgrace to the entire process. How dumb does the GOP think their voters are? I think i will go with the guy with brains this time around. Please see Keating 5.

LOL, thats pretty scary isnt it. Lord help us all if McBush wins next month.

Jiff
http://www.anonweb.eu.tc

With McCain being SO OLD, if he should die and Palin became President…OH MY GOD! Did you see her on the 2008 debate…she was absolutely pathetic and to think of her representing the United States of America…you have GOT to be kidding. This woman can’t even TALK THE TALK…on a debate in front of the world she is talking about
“Third graders you have extra credit” and “Soccer Moms”. Woman,
the country needs help. Biden mopped the floor with this woman.
If America thinks George Bush did a terrible job, I’m afraid we will see worse with McCain and Palin. Vote OBAMA

Wow . . .

Has anyone done any research for themselves? Or, are you all just listening to the media.

How are you all judging the candidates? Do you really believe what you are saying? Do you really believe what the media is saying?

I don’t care who you vote for . . .

I never liked McCain when he was an almost Democrat of a Republican because he would sit the fence too much. But, at least I can tell from his actions who he is and what he stands for.

None of us knows enough about Obama to claim he is worth his salt. So far he is all talk. And, the Media just explains away the concerns people have about him by saying that those things don’t matter.

I doubt that either McCain or Obama would make a terrible President. I also doubt that either Biden or Palin would make a poor Vice-President. But, it is certain that the media is full of a bunch of complete jerks that have turned this process into a circus.

Stop listening to the media and think for yourselves.

Obama’s promise to cut taxes for the middle class is a talking point. When he allows the Bush tax cuts expire, we will all (except those 50% of taxpayers who pay nothing) pay thousands more a year.
I think there is an ignorant mass of people out there who don’t realize that they pay zero taxes. They don’t make the connection that they get back more at the end of the year than what they put in.
It’s easy to say, “tax the rich”, but the “rich” are the small business owners who employ 90% of the nation’s workforce. Why not give them tax breaks? Most people don’t realize that they would be biting the hand that feeds them. In their mind, they are thinking big corporations, and wealthy people, but bear in mind that the wealthy have put their money into huge foundations in their name that are tax-exempt, and corporations have a responsibility to their shareholders—of which you probably have a piece of through your 401k or mutual fund or your company’s pension plan.
You hear that the middle class is shrinking? That’s because they were (before our current financial mess) moving to the upper class. Don’t they teach economics in school anymore???!!!

Donna. They still do teach economics in school. If you were to take a class now, you would fail.

Small businesses employ nowhere near 90% of the workforce. That number is so far off its beyond silly. In addition to that, taxing ‘the rich’ would be a tax directed at the income of the rich person, not the income of any small business. Of course to say that all small business owners fall into the category of ‘rich’ is also absurd. Most small business owners are in the middle class.

As for the point of the middle class shrinking, you are right there, the percentage of people in the middle class has been declining, however, they are slipping into the lower class, not the upper class.

Sad.

There is no “America.” There are no nations, no groups of people that constitute a polity or the “good people” unless coercion, intimidation or hatred of an enemy force FORCED them together, herded them by the sheer number of mobbing voices and outraged fist pumping around them (read: media illusions of consensus). Stop struggling and vote for the candidate who can feel joy, whose face actually lights up. Clinton = 8 years of relative prosperity and optimism. Obama = the best bet for the same. McCain? Jeez. The phoniest “martyr” in the history of the world. Palin? Ha!! My advice: Don’t worry, be happy!! Vote for the happier guy.

What you all forget is that while McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton for five years Obama was expanding his mind by smoking Crack and snorting Coke

Yeah! TheTruthSpeaks is right! While McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton, he learned EVERYTHING he needed to lead the country!
And what did Obama do? He just went to some dumb college. Who learns in colleges anyways?

I’m not so sure people learn that much in college anymore. It is, on the other hand, a really great place to get laid and score drugs.

I do not know how I ended up here, but I did.

I just would like the most recent comments to appear at the top, so that when you read them and scroll down they appear in chronological order. I’m getting “cognitive dissonance” reading them them backward.
By the way, interesting article. I’m voting Obama. I grew up in the military all over the world – I don’t vote that way, whichever way you think military people are supposed to vote. I think that my upbringing gave me a greater view of humanity. Just like there are cat people and dog lovers: I love the diversity of a lot of human cultures. I think Barack Obama would make a fine president and I like Joe Biden as well. I’m less inclined to think that John McCain is going to do anything positive with the reins of government – and Sarah’s just a cheerleader. Let’s say that congress and Obama are clearly one-sighted…. I think some things could be accomplished. I’d like to see some positive efforts beginning in this century. That’s my 2 cents.

My bad. I guess they do read most recent at the top. Maybe I should ask that most recent be added to the bottom, so chronological order is preserved.
Anyway – Obama ‘08 or Bust!

Enough of this Obama was doing crack while McCain was a POW nonsense. Obama was born in 1961. Even if you count the Vietnam war as over in 1973, Obama would have been 12 or so. Obama’s drug experimentation was circa his college years. If you want to be biased towards one candidate or another, that’s fine… but be honest regardless of your leanings.

Hey, Bush Dopes and McAncient Dupes, enjoy it while you can, because here’s the slogan that won’t go away:

FOUR MORE WEEKS! FOUR MORE WEEKS! FOUR MORE WEEKS!!!!

Then it’s gonna be OUR country, biatches!!!

To TheTruthSpeaks:

While McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton, Obama was in gradeschool. Get your facts straight.

You know, who would want to be President and take on this mess? You’d either have to be a ego-centric or a statesman.
Seems obvious to me which is which.

Anonymous,
Your definition of “rich” is not the same as mine. I am speaking of the political talking point of “rich”, which is 250,000 and up.
I stand corrected on my percentage about small business(companies with less than 100 employees), but it is still the largest employer in the nation. It is largely responsible for keeping the unemployment rate down, since small businesses are opening and closing all the time.
They are getting overlooked right now, since they aren’t the ones looking for a bailout, but they are still getting lumped into the “rich” category with Obama’s tax plan, which is totally unfair since they don’t have the “breaks” and “shelters” that the big corps have.

I can understand that you want people to know the FACTS but trying to diminish the McCain’s experience as a POW was just disrespectful. I’m not saying that I’m a supporter of McCain but talking about any military member’s service and especially a POW is just dirty pool and completely uncalled for. Anyway, I’m out.

p.s. I’m voting for Obama…quit the mudslinging and find something interesting to talk about fools!

“60% have below average IQs” That’s hilarious! This must include the writer,JD. By definition, 50% are under/over average.

Direct quote from John McCain’s 2002 book, Worth The Fighting for: A Memoir:
“I didn’t decide to run for president to start a national crusade for the political forms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism. In truth, I wanted to be president because it had become my ambition to be president. I was sixty two years old when I made the decision, and I thought it was my one shot at the prize.”

> “60% have below average IQs” That’s
> hilarious! This must include the
> writer,JD. By definition, 50% are
> under/over average.

Ah, I think you are confusing average and median. Median by definition would mean 50% above and below.

Anon, I agree that baseless slander are unacceptable, but since when have military personnel become immune from attack? This is why Wesley Clark was reamed for suggesting that McCain shouldn’t be using his POW status as a qualification for president.

I greatly respect any person who serves this country in the military (a third of my mom’s family is in the military), but if you’re irresponsible and reckless as a soldier, does your uniform shield you from criticism? I have a serious problem with that idea.

If McCain can use his time in the Hanoi Hilton as a deflection for all issues, then I think it’s fair to examine how he served before being captured (and the arrogant and reckless attitude he continued to display after returning to the states).

Hey Anonymous,
Hilarious!
Just what do you mean by “it’s gonna be our country”? Since when does it “belong” to anyone? It will still be my country, too, and I dare you to try to change that.
As far as I am concerned, if BO wins, you will get what you deserve: a brown shirt to wear, and your marching orders to the nearest mandatoried “volunteer” station.
It is too bad that the BO campaign has to go to the homeless shelters and the rescue missions and the crack houses to find their voting base. You need those people who have no idea who Obama is, but promised a dollar they would vote for Hitler (the white Obama).
BTW, how many people are touting their support simply because it eases their “white guilt” that you have convinced them that they have, but when they get behind the curtain will they still feel the same?
This whole thing has just become so amusing!

hey Jim

look at your notes from HS on what an average is. Your comment would be true if we were talking about a median.
A million people making a buck and one person making a million bucks have an average salary of $2, so that means 99.9999% earn less than the average…

““60% have below average IQs” That’s hilarious! This must include the writer,JD. By definition, 50% are under/over average.”

Hey Anon….

Stop living in a dream world. Mccain has no clue wat he is getting into. A guy who cant comb his own hair will do no good for the country…He is a Maverick who scored chics in his hey days and is completely out of touch. So i guess he should just chill (Beer from Budweiser…Father-in-law thanks to your vision..)

Hey Anon….

Stop living in a dream world. Mccain has no clue wat he is getting into. A guy who cant comb his own hair will do no good for the country…He is a Maverick who scored chics in his hey days and is completely out of touch. So i guess he should just chill (Beer from Budweiser…Father-in-law thanks to your vision..)

i like turtles

>> “60% have below average IQs” That’s
>> hilarious! This must include the
>> writer,JD. By definition, 50% are
>> under/over average.

>Ah, I think you are confusing >average and median. Median by >definition would mean 50% above >and below.

The median and average are completely different. With the numbers 1,3,5,7, and 9 then you have an average and a median of 5. If you had the numbers 1,6,7,8,9, you then have an average of 6.2, but a median of 7. So that being the case, anyone with a 6.2 is average, thereby making it the center of the line. Look up a bell curve. The median would have nothing to do with the curve in total, only the mean.

I’m sorry, I must retract that last statement, in a bell curve, a median and mean would be equal.

To DBS

Very interesting article and video, thanks Mr. Dickinson and Rolling Stone.

One little aviation nitpick — actually not so trivial. It’s not the ENGINE of an airplane that stalls and makes it crash. It’s the airplane itself. An airplane stalls — stops generating enough lift to hold itself up — when the pilot slows it down below a minimum airspeed by cutting power and pitching the nose up.

To land an airplane, you position its wheels a couple of inches above a runway and gently stall it. It stops flying and rolls to a stop.

If you position those wheels a few dozen feet above the trees near the end of the runway then stall it, well, umm, it makes a mess.

Flight manuals offer detailed procedures for getting the wheels where you want them before stalling the plane. Learning to land gracefully is one of the biggest challenges of learning to operate an airplane.

I think it’s important for journalists reporting aviation stories (Dickinson’s story definitely is an aviation story) to get this detail right.

Just more of the same. And still, no single republican can explain why they’re voting for McCain. This disgusts me, why can’t Americans see the bigger picture? WHY!? Check out world polls, the rest of the world sees McCain for who he truly is, why can’t we?

Im an Airline pilot, and you dont get ANYWHERE CLOSE to stalling before you land a JET!!!, maybe a little cessna or something. I really thing you should get a concept on high performance/high altitude aerodynamics and then start talking. Having a private pilots license or knowing some rich guy with a plane that brags about flying on the weekend is no right to act like a expert on Jets. Two completely different animals.

Jet engines can stall and do all the time. Now if you use your eyes and look at the front of a JET engine you will see a series of small blades, this comprises the N1 compressor section of the JET/TurboFan engine. You can compare these blades to wings because thats what essentially they are (airfoils). Now if these blades exceed a specific angle in relation to the relative wind (the critical angle of attack) they will stall. This will lead to uncompressed air entering the combustion section of the JET where the fuel and air are compressed prior to ignition. So this leads to a wait for it… STALLED ENGINE.. Dont post rookie private pilot information that has to do with small combustion aircraft that fly under 10,000 feet at 110 knots.

Thanks, and take care!

I can understand that you want people to know the FACTS but “trying to diminish the McCain’s experience as a POW was just disrespectful. I’m not saying that I’m a supporter of McCain but talking about any military member’s service and especially a POW is just dirty pool and completely uncalled for. Anyway, I’m out.”

I am sorry but anyone who uses a lie for political gain has just opened that lie up for careful investigation, if it is found to be a lie then guess what, it should be brought to light so people know it is a lie. Lying about it would be the disgrace to his fellow POW friends AND his trusting country…

Will – it is clear you are black and racist. You are one of the reasons that there are race problems in this country.
Please kill yourself.

I don’t usually contribute much, generally preferring to read the point-counterpoint in these blogs. I’ve had a thought recurring to me over these past months, a question which begs answering. In all the debate over whom is qualified to be Prez and who ain’t, I’ve repeatedly seen the Pro-McCain camp and McCain himself make the assertion, “I know how to win a war”. Now, taking nothing away from JM’s service in Nam, nor his stay at the Hanoi Hilton, I fail to see how any of this experience makes him knowledgeable about how to win a war. In its day, the Viet Nam Conflict was much the subject of internal controversy, such the likes of this country has never seen since. I am somewhat ashamed of my generation in this regard, because we have allowed the repeating of this unlearned history lesson through our acceptance of the current situation in Iraq. It is no longer a doubt in anyone’s mind that we were led there under false pretenses, outright lies if you will, but nonetheless trapped into the muck of it by the peer pressure of “patriotism”. So much spent, so many lives lost, others ruined, none the same; but still standing like deer in headlights, unable, or perhaps unwilling to move to save ourselves.

You’re on point UnionHero. Perhaps you should contribute more.

Precious little of what we’re forced to ingest has much to do with one’s qualifications. And why should it? We’re stuck in a two party system and we have the choice of door A or door B.

Better to concern ourselves with why, as you say, do we allow ourselves to be herded, like sheep/lemmings, into something no one in their right mind can condone.

…Hahhh!…I got it!!!
Senator McCain …IS …Captain “America” Dave McGraw, from the mini-series “Generation Kill” http://www.hbo.com/generationkill)

If you saw the series, you’ll know what I’m talking about. The character was a pathetically insecure, propped-up legacy “Marine” whose cowardly behavior was constantly aimed at stealing credit away from his own men in desperate attempts to impress his daddy, a high-powered Admiral back home …or maybe he was a General, I’m not sure …but you get the idea.

SERVICE CONNECTED DISABLED VETERANS FOR OBAMA

FREE CINDY MCCAIN!!!

Donna,
I understand your concern, but the McCain/Palin claim that Obama’s tax plan would hurt small business is mostly hot air. Here is a quote from FactCheck.org:

“McCain has repeatedly claimed that Obama would raise tax rates for 23 million small-business owners. It’s a false and preposterously inflated figure.

We find that the overwhelming majority of those small-business owners would see no increase, because they earn too little to be affected. Obama’s tax proposal would raise rates only on couples making more than $250,000 or singles earning more than $200,000.

McCain argues that Obama’s proposed increase is a job-killer. He has a point. It’s true that increasing taxes on those at the top would leave them less money for other purposes, including investment and hiring in the case of business owners. But the number of business owners who would see their rates go up would be only a small fraction of what McCain says. Many would see their taxes go down.”

@ Anon

If you want a similar story digging into the background of Obama and Biden

Watch FoXXX News, they would never do a anti McShame / Palin story

If McCain ever makes it to the white house, we can expect a bloodbath that would make Iraq look like a picnic. No way, no how, no McCain

I’m glad people are starting to open their eyes to the truth. It’s been there all along, just go to the library of congress and look at the legislation McCain has introduced. Almost every single bill is military related. A search for obama shows legislation for the betterment of americans.. equal rights, housing, health care, environment, energy independence, increased fuel economy, etc..

No way, not how, no McCain

i woke up this morning and checked out pollster.com…..Barack Obama is turning long time red states BLUE…Florida, NM, Iowa, etc. Obama has captured 320 electoral votes vs. McCain’s 163!

methinks that McCain/Palin’s wish for transparency has come true…people truly see them for who they are!

I heard on NPR one of his partners who was a prisoner w/him in Vietnam say that he was a Republican but would NOT vote for McCain because he knows him and he is one scary guy. He said one minute he can be your best friend and another, if he doesn’t like the way things are going he “goes off like a roman candle” he said that is NOT the man you want “in control”!!!! SCARRRRY

There’s a village in Alaska missing it’s Idiot – Please go home Sarah!

all you nitwits who vote for either mccain or obama will be sorry when one of them is president. what you refuse to understand is that BOTH major parties are so corrupt that they are beyond redemption. lets start a new party, one that cares about the people of our country. as it stands now, i think obama wins, then 4 years from now we shall see what we shall see. anyone who thinks this country will be better off, better read an economic principle known as ‘availability cascading. we are in a downward spiral, and it can’t be stopped. in fact, i doubt that rolling stone will be in busines in 4 years, and i don’t mean the singing group.

I gather, then, we should just not bother with an election and give up. According to your ‘theory,’ we’re screwed no matter what.

You Think?

its not ‘my’ theory, it is an economic principle, if your not lazy, you will look it up, just type in the words, then, if you are not stupid, you will understand what i put forth. and anyone who thinks the either party is for the people, well, they are beyond stupid. the two parties are in total agreement on one issue, and that issue is that they stay in power.

He crashed 5 planes AND graduated 5th from the bottom of a class of 900? Good Lord help us all. I certainly hope he doesn’t fly anymore! Well at least near my house!

Jim,

You put it forth and you endorsed it. I think, therefore, I can call it ‘yours.’ You also said, “…it can’t be stopped,” supporting my contention that you don’t believe it matters who’s elected, we’re screwed.

Ergo, if it doesn’t matter who’s elected and we’re screwed, why bother with an election? Please explain, what with my stupidity and all, I need your illumination.

By the by, please point out where ANYONE herein has claimed that ANY party is ‘for the people.’ What with me being stupid, I may have missed it.

dirty dennis, i don’t care who anyone votes for, either choice we lose. i see you did not know nor did you look up available cascading. it is not my contention that i invented this principle. when you understand it let me know, then we can discuss the matter. i advocate a new american revolution, where the people sre in charge, we are not in charge now. rememberour constitution, which says the government is for the people and by the people. do you think your senator is that? or is he or she all about getting re-elected? then perhaps, if they have the time and inclination, they may give us a little of their time. don’t believe me? try to get a private meeting with your senator. do you know that until about 100 years ago, citizens could do this with pres.teddy roosevelt? without an appointment they could walk into the white house and see him. i cant even do that with the mayor of my town, which has a population of 3,000. they have forgotten they are suppose to be serving us. we serve them, it will not change, until we change.

visit http://www.keatingeconomic.com for information regarding McCain that you should know.
Also, visit http://www.worldpeaceflag.org and click on Bailout to learn of your $425,000 Stimulus

Jim,

All you say is true, or pretty much so. I DO think a person can make a difference, on the big stage that is, not thee or me. Is Obama that person? I haven’t a clue, but I like his chances a LOT more than I do Johnny Boy’s.

Humans are imperfect and we have a system constructed by humans. To say it’s imperfect, therefore, is pointless. It is, however, the best thing going. Until someone comes up with a better one, then I’m going to bitch and moan and hold on to what we’ve got.

As for cascading whatever, it holds no interest for me for there’s not a single thing I can do to sustain or subvert either the economy or the gov’t. I merely alluded to your susposition that we’re ’screwed.’ We might very well be, but I’d as soon not cede to the bad guys. Just yet.

Thanks for helping to put the record straight about McCain.

Could Governor Palin put down that
bucket of mud she brings to each of
her campain appearances. And Cindy
McCain saying chills ran down her
spine when Obama voted agains troop
funds: what was her raction to her
husband’s negative vote on similar
legislation because it had a “time
line?” I’ll bet we don’t hear that
charade again in the nexxt e4 wks.

Could Governor Palin put down that
bucket of mud she brings to each of
her campain appearances. And Cindy
McCain saying chills ran down her
spine when Obama voted agains troop
funds: what was her raction to her
husband’s negative vote on similar
legislation because it had a “time
line?” I’ll bet we don’t hear that
charade again in the nexxt e4 wks.

Could Governor Palin put down that
bucket of mud she brings to each of
her campain appearances. And Cindy
McCain saying chills ran down her
spine when Obama voted agains troop
funds: what was her raction to her
husband’s negative vote on similar
legislation because it had a “time
line?” I’ll bet we don’t hear that
charade again in the nexxt e4 wks.

I’m sorry but you’re incorrect in
the statement that I have already
commented on Palin and McCain.

I’m sorry but you’re incorrect in
the statement that I have already
commented on Palin and McCain.

This election, once again, will be a process of voting for the lesser of two evils. It’s hard to belive in the ideals our country was founded on when the voting process comes down to this. I’m tired of the candidates games attacking eachother instead of telling the public their plans. For once just tell us what you plan to do and ACTUALLY DO IT. McCain biols down to Bush part II and we all know where that left us. He calls himself a Maverick and if he knew anything about our country right now, he would know that that is the last thing we need in office. We need someone very thorough who calculates very carefully and with an informed mind what the best option is. I don’t know if that’s what Obama is. I feel at least half the information we are fed is an exaggeration or a complete falsity. It all feels like some kind of sick game in the end in a country that is supposed to uphold the ideas of democracy.

This election, once again, will be a process of voting for the lesser of two evils. It’s hard to belive in the ideals our country was founded on when the voting process comes down to this. I’m tired of the candidates games attacking eachother instead of telling the public their plans. For once just tell us what you plan to do and ACTUALLY DO IT. McCain biols down to Bush part II and we all know where that left us. He calls himself a Maverick and if he knew anything about our country right now, he would know that that is the last thing we need in office. We need someone very thorough who calculates very carefully and with an informed mind what the best option is. I don’t know if that’s what Obama is. I feel at least half the information we are fed is an exaggeration or a complete falsity. It all feels like some kind of sick game in the end in a country that is supposed to uphold the ideas of democracy.

Have you been paying attention Elise? Obama has spent MORE time talking about the issues and HOW he is going to carry out those things.

shenanigans,

My problem with McCain, in the final analysis, is that he is a terrible role model for people young and old. As a leader, you have a very important function. By carrying out a campaign of innuendo, deception, etc., he is perpetuating the kind of horrid style launched by Bush 1 and Bush 2.

As a voter, I want facts and programs, not a lot of hooey. As a parent, I want a leader with decency, intelligence and poise. Obama has that.

Jed Clampett

Hey, shenannigans, what was her reaction when she found out that she would have to pay for her son’s up-armor for the Humvee or body armor for her son… and the callous answer from Rumsfeld… ‘you go to war with the equipment you have, not the equipment you wish you had’?

Peace

Interesting…..I haven’t taken my political advice from a rock and roll magazine since I voted for McGovern.

Anon again,
I don’t think you should take “political advice” from ANY media source. But don’t discount valid information which may help you make up your own mind. If you don’t believe a claim, it should be pretty easy to discover how true it is. In this age of connectivity and disinformation we should all develop and perfect these skills. Democracy (and the Republic) cannot function otherwise.

Further, I think you made the right choice.

Great article, I am frightened by how the McCain/Palin ticket seem to think that the best way to LEAD is by denigrating your opponent. In recent days the McCain campaign events have taken on a nasty tone, with the purpose of inciting their followers to shout things like “off with his head”, “terrorist”, “liar”. Seriously is this the type of campaign that John McCain thinks puts Country First? I guess when you have no plan or ideas on how to LEAD our country , the last act of desperation is to question the character of your opponent. I thought John McCain wanted to run a issues related campaign – that seems lost today in his campaign rhetoric – “My Friends” I am sick of John McCain and his brand of politics. Change is coming for sure, hopefully it includes John McCain’s retirement from public service.

TMT,
If only it were so. But the odds are currently set against it. He is expected to slime his way back into his Senate seat.

Try googling
“Will John McCain resign his Senate seat prior to the November general election?”

Comment to this blog is a waist of time. I’m sorry I waisted my time reading it……… Disappointed

Yeah, most of us commenters here have time to waist [sic]. But these articles are very informative. I wouldn’t waste a lot of time reading the comments unless you have time to kill too.

I don;t know the exact population of the USA,but are these the best candidates we can come up with out of everyone ?

I don;t know the exact population of the USA,but are these the best candidates we can come up with out of everyone ?

I don;t know the exact population of the USA,but are these the best candidates we can come up with out of everyone ?

After reading the “con”servative comments, it brought to mind what John Stuart Mills said back in the 1800s-”Although it is true that not all conservatives are stupid people,it is also true that most stupid people are conservative” More true today than ever!

Was that Mills, Mr. Bill? Had forgotten the statement but ran across it recently and couldn’t remember who said it. Not that it matters. Delicious quote, tnx.

When either candidate gets in office and jacks everything up, don’t blame me. I voted for Ron Paul.

Funny how people complain about republicans slinging mud at the dems, but read these articles, hmmm, seemes the dems do the same exact thing. All I can say after reading this is, whatever. Still voting for him, sure beats the alternative.

It is one thing to sling mud at a candidate, its another to complete ignore the facts. While I’ll admit Obama may not have the most experience I still feel he’s a far better choice for this country right now. McCain seems too aggressive for our situation in Iraq and the economic crisis we face; on top of it all…I’m terrified to think if this man should pass away while in office Palin would be president. Honestly, if you question experience, take a second look at the situation involving Palin…

Someone earlier mentioned that being a ‘good christian’ was an important consideration in voting for Obama. I don’t believe it matters if your an athesist, agnostic, or of any faith. What I think matters is that you care about each other and each others welfare without regard to sex, race,religion/or not,country, lifestyle, money, talents, intelligence and so on.It’s called a conscience.

I consider myself riding the left side of the fence. I will never vote for a republican. They never support the middle class. Look at the voting record of republicans and you will see a resounding average of an “F” on middleclass.org. I can’t see how anyone in the middle class would ever vote republican. Blows my mind. If you aren’t one of the top 5% in income in this country, you are throwing your vote away. How can you trust a party that wants to put it’s faith in corporations to do the right thing with trickle down economics. THAT is why we are in this mess. Protect the people, not the corporations. And another thing, you people that vote republican for religious reasons are naive to think that republicans candidates have a strangle hold on morality. Do you think these ultra rich repubicans give a hoot as much as you do about god? Please! They are completely pulling the wool over your eyes! Wake up! Do your research from non-partisan websites! I’m voting democrat not because I’m democrat (I’m independent), but because I never want the right side of the fence to win! If it didn’t hurt the left side, I’d vote for Nader.

I’m a S.Korean and here’s what I think about it. For America, most of us S.Koreans think Obama would be better. Really, I don’t know. I think there could have been better candidates. I mean, there are about 300,000,000 according to … and I think you can come up with just, only 2 candidates perfect enough to make U.S, the world, a better place to live in.

I’m a S.Korean and here’s what I think about it. For America, most of us S.Koreans think Obama would be better. Really, I don’t know. I think there could have been better candidates. I mean, there are about 300,000,000 according to … and I think you can come up with just, only 2 candidates perfect enough to make U.S, the world, a better place to live in.

Bravo,Tim!

Thanks for posting this article and video! This confirms what I have “felt” but could not confirm. I found this posted on another blog after the final presidential debate of 2008 and it certainly merits being circulated! No wonder the man refused all of these years to release his military records.

The interesting thing is this: In order to attack Obama, his opponents have to make things up, hint at associations, and “sling mud.” In order to attack McCain, all you have to do is quote “his own” books (all written by Mark Salter). McCain is his own mud. Read a little about Duke Tully, who made up McCain’s war story.

I am a “modern conservative” and Obama supporter. I hope you forward your well-researched story to the Obama campaign. Hopefully more of the facts you shared in Rolling Stone can be spread to that large voting group who are more conservative, and uncommitted. They need to hear about McCain, the real McCain.

This MUST be given to the Obama campaign. They can use what they want, but let’s throw a little “MUD” McCain’s way.

TMT, please define “denigrating”. How many syllables is that?

For many people in Europe the attacks of the Republicans on the integrity of their opponents is horrible. Like poison they spread lies and half thruths. And for us the amazing thing is that up untill now they had succes with it. I have the feeling that what they try to do again with Obama this time fails, because now the Americans open there eyes and understand what happens, as it seems to me.

Perhaps it is true what you said about McCain. But I think what Obama does is best: not too much attacking on personal behaviour. But as a journalist perhaps you must do this, you look straight forward, honest.

But as a voter, which I’m not of course, I would look to McCains body language. He looks so stressy, full of complexes and frustrated that I never would trust him as a president. But whatever will happen, it cannot be worse that that creep which is now in the White House.

That’s another thing most people in Europe cannot understand: how could you vote , after 4 years Bush, for ANOTHER 4 years?
greetings

rené louman

For many people in Europe the attacks of the Republicans on the integrity of their opponents is horrible. Like poison they spread lies and half thruths. And for us the amazing thing is that up untill now they had succes with it. I have the feeling that what they try to do again with Obama this time fails, because now the Americans open there eyes and understand what happens, as it seems to me.

Perhaps it is true what you said about McCain. But I think what Obama does is best: not too much attacking on personal behaviour. But as a journalist perhaps you must do this, you look straight forward, honest.

But as a voter, which I’m not of course, I would look to McCains body language. He looks so stressy, full of complexes and frustrated that I never would trust him as a president. But whatever will happen, it cannot be worse that that creep which is now in the White House.

That’s another thing most people in Europe cannot understand: how could you vote , after 4 years Bush, for ANOTHER 4 years?
greetings

rené louman

…and to you rene, thanks

Obama SUCKS
McCain ROCKS

Keep up the good work. Great to hear the truth about the liar !!

I want to start a business so that my wife doesn’t have to work, so I was reading on the policies of McCain and Obama.
AND This is how my day is going so far and this is exactly how I feel about it.

Rolling Stone wrote this article. It’s a democratic press, so I will dismiss it just like anything on CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC.

CAPITAL GAINS TAX WILL GO UP WHEN OBAMA IS ELECTED. HE SAID SO. WHY WOULD I RISK MY CREDIT AND MY FAMILY’S FUTURE FOR A MEDIOCRE PROFIT GAIN IN ORDER TO START A BUSINESS? I WON’T!!!
PEOPLE ARE SO USED TO RIDING THE COAT TAILS OF PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE RISK TO START A BUSINESS AND MAINTAIN THAT BUSINESS SO THAT IT IS PROFITABLE……I MEAN THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT…..RIGHT?……. WHEN THEY FOLD UP THEIR BUSINESS OR MOVE IT OVERSEAS BECAUSE IT’S NOT WORTH IT ANYMORE…..EVERYONE LOSES. THE “COAT TAILERS” ARE UNEMPLOYED….. GUESS WHAT…..TIME FOR MORE FREE MONEY FROM THE GOVERNMENT PAID FOR BY YOURS TRULY….THE WORKING SUCKER.

I think I will move deep in the woods and detach from everyone and the IRS. If he tries to take my guns like he did to the people in Illinois, I will kill people with them.

The polls say that Obama will win the election. For all that give him your vote, congratulations, you still won’t have to get a job. Your unions will destroy everything that someone else has worked very hard for, just to make money and give you a job. I hope your hybrid can drive across oceans because that is where your job will be. And that is assuming that you even want it.

My wife and I make about $450K per year and I will be glad to share more of that in the form of higher taxes. If you live a comfortable life, take a moment to look around at those who are hurting badly. We are only as good as weakest link and sacrifice made this country great. I don’t want to sacrifice so that the Republicans and their buds can have nicer homes in the Bahamas. Obama has many flaws, but he does have a vision about who we are as a nation and the kind of people we want to be. I’m for that vision. As one blogger wrote, look at the body language. My God, John McCain is a mess emotionally and probably otherwise.

Rene’

The American people never voted Bush into office. The first time the supreme court appointed him and the second time the election was rigged so that he won. It’s pretty sad.

I wish we could just have these last 8 years back. What a mess. We have been lied to, made to eat off the dollar menu, and forego health care to pay over priced housing costs. This sucks and I hate it. McCain is a total loser who has nothing but personal gain to get out of this election. Regardless of his past, his policy still is bad. He has no ideas of his own and as a president that would show. We need someone who is confident and able to deal with letting people down in an effective way. That is why I am voting Obama. He will disappoint us in many ways no matter what, but at least he can mend some wounds and get this place on the right track to work on the 21st Century.

WorkingSucker…what?
McCain is asking you to spend more on tax cuts as a whole. Those tax cuts will not go to you. Look at his tax plan. McCain is adding a new tax for health insurance (new tax as in never been a tax before), with mandated flexible spending accounts. It’s nice that you want to start a business so your wife doesn’t have to work. The reality is that businesses are hard to start and fail often. By the time things are up and running, you may have a new capital gains figure to work with. Your greatest help would be research on starting a business and voting no to a man who is consistently anti-small business. Under Obama, the capital gains tax will be going to it’s lowest rate in the 90s (from 15-20% still higher than Regan’s capital gains) for people making over 250,000. If your fledgling business makes over 250,000 in reportable earnings after you add in all of your business expenses, I’ll eat my hat.

Just because you dont vote for a black leader doesnt make you a racist. Im sure its fun for you to try to pull your reverse racism role; however do it when your not getting into a club, not on a political debait, as it should have no bearing. If you think Barak is the answer, by all means vote for him. Their are a lot of idiots out there, i suppose if enough of you vote for him you’ll get what you asked for, i hate to use the words ” I told you so, but in 3 years thats exactly whats going to be the case”.

Working Sucker “If he tries to take my guns like he did to the people in Illinois, I will kill people with them.”

You sound like one rational individual to me. But I’m glad to know that your sucker is working – there will always work for male prostitutes.

Tim, there’s nothing hidden about John Mc Cain. I guess you did not finish your job by listening to Mc Cain speak about himself and talking about those points. Can’t say the same for Obama. Why don’t you perform professional journalism and explain or at least dare to look into Obama’s all of the sudden “missing documents and thesis” . Either you choose to conveniently not bring it up …. or you are a very unprofessional biased editor. It’s a shame how people tarnish that profession for their own objectives. I assume you like the idea of “change” which I do too. I just don’t want the type of change that countries like Venezuela and Cuba asked for … which they got. I guess the American ideals.. have become very twisted.l

Anna,
McCain was offered an opportunity to dispute the facts in the article – he declined. It is extremely difficult to dispute the truth.

Working Sucker,
After reading your comments, I believe you(and too many others) have made your decision without facts and/or knowledge. I doubt your new business would be in the top three percent of small businesses, and NET over $250,000.00.
I’m sure you’re familiar with the term NET.
If I am wrong, how about a partner?

If someone can point out two assertions in this article that aren’t documented I’d like to see them. Specific quotes in context please.

Even his fellow POW’s tell more of reality of the experience. I was shocked by this article. I thought I knew a lot about John McCain.

He even had my grudging respect until the last 4 weeks of this campaign.

Certainly he had my respect for the way he handled his POW experience. Now I find he has even distorted the POW experience (as documented by a fellow POW in the same POW camp).

Sad. And simply unworthy of office. I can’t find one instance in this article that isn’t documented.

I don’t know how anyone can say anything is fabricated in this article unless you believe that these people and documents simply don’t exist.

Sad,sad story.

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Republicans don’t rock, in any way.

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Now that no one cares…You’ve abused your power and got your guy (and mine by the way) elected. I would like to point out the flaws in this atrocious piece that simply lies about the man I didn’t vote for. This still does not excuse the corrupt journalism of rolling stone.

All but one of his living fellow Pows supported him- Dr. Phillip Butler.
The rest did support him. Other Pow’s not “fellow Pows” in the same camp as him are angry with him over blocking some things to recover info on Pows and burying some propaganda he was forced to make.
Although admittedly he was a hellion early in his career as an aviator. Before being shot down he received honors and recognition from his superiors such a…you know what? Screw you guys. No one is gonna read this anymore anyway. Enjoy your slanted media (right or left) I hope you choke on today’s sorry excuse for journalism.