Jed Clampett

Yes, rescue our family budget from the oil companies and their republican friends in congress who have acted like the pushers and their enablers with respect to our addiction to oil.

Vote Obama!!!
Making more of a poison will not save the family budget, it will destroy the home environment. Feeding an addiction kills the patient, while changing the addiction to something positive saves the family.
Vote for renewables and an end to oil company control of our lives.

Besides all that, the ‘domestic oil’ that McCainBush wants to drill for isn’t even guarranteed to be served to us……..it’s just going to go on the market (in 5-7 years) with all the other ’speculated’ barrels.

Republiclowns

Vote Obama! The man who has yet to have a consistent view/plan on…anything!

Vote Obama! Who needs experience or actual policies when you’ve got hope! And he’s audacious with it!

Vote Obama! Because, after all, one empty suit is as good as another, no matter what the letter is next to their name!

Vote for Washington to change Washington…ur…wait, huh?

If they really want to drill more why don’t they start with the 10,000+ domestic oil drilling permits they already have? I’ve also read that there are wells already drilled but sitting capped in Alaska.
It’s all one big phucking game to these pukes!
They say we need to drill for more oil, knowing full well that anyone with half a brain knows that that isn’t the answer. This includes Democrats, who they then blame for the whole problem when they don’t go along. It’s a strategy as old as McCain, and one of the two defenses this administration has used all along.

a) You don’t know what you’re talking about, trust us, we know best.

or

b) It’s the Democrat’s fault.

Yikes.

I’ll take an empty suit over an empty head anytime!

McCain is trying to rally the stupid/ignorant voting segment of America with this ad. It could work. These people will believe anything that they are told. So, in this perspective, the ad is a homerun. There will be people everywhere posting and blogging about that muslim Obama and how he is trying to destroy America by not allowing suffering oil companies to drill in the US.

“Vote Obama! The man who has yet to have a consistent view/plan on…anything!”

Try using Teh Google. Actually, this is hilarious. Here’s a sampling of McCain’s consistency:

* McCain supported the drilling moratorium; now he’s against it.

* McCain strongly opposes a windfall-tax on oil company profits. Three weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.

* McCain thought Bush’s warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.

* McCain defended “privatizing” Social Security. Now he says he’s against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)

* McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn’t.

* McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.

* He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.”

* McCain said he would “not impose a litmus test on any nominee.” He used to promise the opposite.

And these come after these other reversals from April and May:

* McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administration’s warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.

* McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.

* McCain supported moving “towards normalization of relations” with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.

* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.

* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.

* He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party’s policy making. Now he believes the opposite.

* McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn’t.

* He wanted political support from radical televangelists like John Hagee and Rod Parsley. Now he doesn’t.

* McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn’t.

“Vote Obama! Who needs experience or actual policies when you’ve got hope! And he’s audacious with it!”

Vote McCain! Who needs to know the difference between Sunni and Shia!? Who cares whether Pakistan borders Iraq!?!?! Who knows why they changed the name to The Czech Republic!?!?!

“Vote Obama! Because, after all, one empty suit is as good as another, no matter what the letter is next to their name!”

Vote McCain! Because after all, you’re just a bunch of whiners anyway!

Actually, this ad feels really effective. It spends more time making Obama and his followers (myself included) seem creepy and cultish than it does focusing on the drilling. It’s very smart, and very subversive.

Sigh.

In the ongoing debate over record gas prices, some people are calling to increase offshore drilling as a means of quick and easy relief. Setting aside the rhetoric, the facts show that oil and gas companies are doing very little with the huge number of existing opportunities for increased domestic production both onshore and offshore.

The vast majority of federal oil and gas resources has already been made available for development. Currently, it’s estimated that 81 percent of oil and gas resources on federal lands both onshore and offshore are already available for development or will be pending the completion of land-use planning or environmental reviews.

While the opportunities are there, the oil and gas companies have not moved aggressively to increase production. Since 2004, oil and gas companies have stockpiled and then stood idle on almost 10,000 domestic drilling permits covering 68 million acres of federal land. Offshore, just 10.5 million of the 44 million leased acres are currently being used to produce oil or gas.

If the inactive leases already granted were put to good use immediately, an additional 4.8 million barrels of oil and 44.7 billion cubic feet of natural gas could be produced each day.

That would nearly double total U.S. oil production, and increase natural gas production by 75 percent. The oil production represents over 14 years of current U.S. consumption, and 30 years of current domestic natural gas consumption

The question should not be whether to further expand drilling off the shores of places like North Carolina, but why oil and gas companies are stockpiling and sitting idle on the existing opportunities. Rather than debate more risky offshore drilling schemes, we need to be holding gas and oil companies accountable for their malfeasance in failing to act on existing opportunities.

REP. G. K.

BUTTERFIELD

1st Congressional District

Now THAT’s a little bit more interesting than the usual ’stuff’ posted herein. I’ll have to defer to the honorable congressman as to the veracity of his comments, but on the surface, they scarcely seem outlandish.

Considering the towering cynicism in which I hold towards the ‘ins,’ a perfectly plausible scenario for me, in answer to his question, is that the ‘oil companies,’ want to parlay the current public discontent into gaining access to current off-limits resources. Once they get their lecherous mitts on some of the previously sacrosanct locations, it will be impossible to pry them loose.

While I don’t go as far as Coach in crying conspiracy, I do think that there’s an element of economic gamesmanship at play. He who has the most toys at the end, wins.

It’s like outsourcing, no matter the lives impacted, the issue is how many $$$$ can be rung out of the rag before it’s discarded.

Time to dig up my moth-worn copy of “Dos Kapital” and see what M&E have to say about it.

Jamesjr– your giving me an awful lot of reason vote against McCain, and none to vote for Obama

some election, huh?

Red Star:

Reasons to vote for Obama:

1. He has a 10-year 150 billion dollar plan to fund renewable energy, which will distance us from all the chaos of the petro-dictators.

Do you really need to know anything else? Besides that, it would be a great PR move.

Come to think of it, it’s almost as if people WANT enemies. They get all up in arms when someone from another country endorses Obama.

I love the false notion being put forward here. Its like complete insanity in that it hopes for the viewer to be completely ignorant of how long it would take to actually get anything out of ANWR… and then still be ignorant of how little it will impact the national and even global market.

And idiots will eat it up. Go team!

Jed Clampett

Here’s a little analysis of the Pickens plan by a Cato institute member. Perhaps the glib can tell us if he still supports the plan after reading this assesment.

http://www.nationalpost .com/opinion/story.html?id=675 273

Good luck Jed. I think we’ve come to realize that the Gliebe will justify everything the repubes/cons do or want to do. All while painting the other side as a bunch of ‘whining’ idiots…..

Gore’s ‘greened’ up his house and still gets villainized by Gliebe and others. T.Boone has bought out technology for 35+ years just to keep his cronies rich, but that’s okay….

(Merkwurdigliebe)

And I’ve come to realize that you two will twist just about anything I’ve said to fit your own agendas…but hey, I’m just a puppet of the oil industry, so no biggy, right?

Jed– If you’ll actually read my posts, you’ll see I like the idea of “something like pickens plan”, not it exactly. The article is right: if Pickens want to put his plan into action, then he can use his own money…with the exception for govt approvals to rearrange the grid so that it will meed up with his windfarms, otherwise, he has the funds and the pull to bring capital from the free market

A plan like Pickens has suggested, in concert with domestic drilling, upped refining capacity, and an opened market for greener alternatives (pending demand) is whats needed to solve the problem…plain and simple. Its going to take hard work and time to get it done, but hell, if the greatest generation could totally mobilize in the midst of the Great Depression, there’s no reason why we cant sacrifice a little for a greener tomorrow

oh, and Gore gets villianized becasue A) He bases all of his proclamations on junk science, and B) He, unlike Pickens, tells everyone else how to live, while not following his own advice(flying in his private jet, driving his family around in SUV’s, powering his home with 20 tiems the electricity than the normal American household, etc)…all us peons out here have to follow his advice, cuz big brother Al knows whats best…he’s a classic case of do as I say, not as I do…when he starts following his own advice, and science is on his side, then I’ll listen…start twisting boys, have at it

Right, we twist…..
You credit Pickens while villainizinig Gore. Plain, simple, fact.

You cite Gore’s home using ‘20 times the amount of the normal home’, yet don’t recognize the fact that he’s upgraded his home WITH HIS OWN CAPITAL to use less electricity than every single home in his area.

You cite domestic drilling, without recognizing that we’ll burn through our own reserves in about 3 years, as soon as they come online.

You cite ‘demand’ as a reason we don’t already have renewable energy running the transportation industry, yet everytime an electric car comes available, there’s a waiting list years long. What about the demand for the Honda Prius? They can’t make enough of them.

Is this twisted enough for you?

Unbelieveable.

(Merkwurdigliebe)

Of course I villianize Gore, because Pickens isnt flying around in his private jet, driving his family around in SUV’s, and telling EVERYONE ELSE NOT TO. Pickens isnt backing his plans with junk science, nor is he expecting everyone else but him to cut back. Pickens isnt touting his green house while still sucking power off the TVA grid. Pickens is in it only for the money, and will tell you straight up. Gore will try at every turn to hide the fact that he’s standing to make more money than god by relentless quoting junk science. plain, simple fact.

I suppose you have the estimates for all the oil that is contained in:
–ANWR
–Oil shale
–Offshore drilling
–Unused/pending leases

you can drill for oil, and still research greener alternatives, and bring them onto the market faster than 5-7. plain, simple fact.

You cite a demand for Prius’s. Good. The market is working. give the people what they want. I dont, and never have, had a problem with it. I do have a problem with the govt mandating what companies have to produce…but no problem with the public b.uyer determining the market. All clear?

No, not clear. Apparently, you want somebody to get a message out from the comfort of their unairconditioned cardboard box. Do you really think Pickens is NOT traveling around in an SUV?

Whatever dude. Keep drilling away bro. Do you honestly think that the amount of drilling we’ve been doing for the last 100+ years is not going to have an effect on the earth? If someone slowly started pulling things out of your body, at some point you’d react, and probably negatively.

Keep on pilfering the earth for your own good. The future of mankind doesn’t matter to some people, as long as they can fill up their car to get to starbucks.

And, yes, the more you support oil, the more you make yourself an oil stooge, to answer an often asked question…….

(Merkwurdigliebe)

I could care less if Pickens is travelling around in an SUV…he’s not telling everyone else to stop driving theirs while he gallavants around, wasting more fuel in a month than the average american uses in a year. So when Pickens does start living the “do as i say, not as I do” life, then I’ll start complaining

And, as much as you cant/won’t/dont want to accept it, we’re not going to get off oil tomorrow. Meaning, that its going to be in our energy equation for the next 30 or so odd years by the time everything else is up and running. This isnt being an oil stooge, a label you pin on whomever happens to mention oil and you disagree with. Its called being realistic. So man up, grow a pair, and face reality. No one is saying that you should pilfer the earth, or pollute it, or whatever. Its just increadibly foolish to think that A) oil is going anywhere, B)that it has to be an either or situation…you can pursue greener alternatives, and still tap into domestic supplies to make us more independent of foreign oil despots. Both can work in concert…theres no need to be an absolutist either way about it…thats why nothing is getting done on capitol hill

Glierbe: You say 30 years. Plenty of others say as low as 5 years. It’s all a matter of who you believe, and I, for one, don’t believe you. So, telling me to grow a pair isn’t going to help. That would give me two pair, and therefore make me some kind of freak.

And, maybe it’s time for you to realize oil’s influence on the ‘do nothing congress’. Recognition is a key component in this whole mess. Recognize the problem(s): Oil pollutes, and big oil gets in the way of industry evolution. Period.

How else do you explain…..wait, nevermind. I don’t even want to hear your explanation for why we haven’t expanded our energy production in the last 35 years. And, no, I’m not talking about refineries. More refineries means cheaper gas. We know that’s not going to happen. I’m talking about the obvious ones. For instance, big oil’s b_uyout of the zero emissions law and the clean air act. But, I’m sure you have some lameass justification for that…………

(Merkwurdigliebe)

Coach– you as a multi-tiered question, so I will do my best to answer…

Oil polluting– depends where; in third world dumps that lack proper technology, then yes. In the US, hardly, our oil companies have a pretty clean record in terms of the environment, with only 2-3 major disasters, which could have been avoided

And sure big oil has influence, but unless you eliminate lobbyists alltogether (which isnt going to happen), theres not much you can other than use market forces against them…take away their subsidies, and let the people decide whats on the market (the latter of which is happening)…besides, oil companies are merely doing what companies are meant to do– be successful…any solutions? Lets hear your thoughts on the matter

Why havent we upped energy production? Many reasons, the main one being complacency. Oil was always going to be cheap…people 20 years ago didnt know or care when oil was going to run out. So we kept kicking infrastructure upgrades down the road, we kept putting off green transitions, we kept making larger and larger cars, and the rest of the world quietly kept industrializing. So when the inevitable finally caught up with us, here we are still wringing our hands and doing nothing…and the oil companies, and govt, happily went along. The oil compainies make money off the oil, and the govt makes money off the taxes on said oil (second only to the income tax)…so a “not in my backyard” mentality and a general attitude of inaction is the reason…you believe it was some global oil cabal; I tend to think it is simply unrestrained market forces being taken to their nth degree…as Gramsci would have put it: the power structure (big govt and big oil) informed the base(the public), and base was subsumed into the power structures ideology…via the doctrines of coercion and consent

Jed Clampett

I guess a 100 mile oil slick in the mississippi doesn’t seem like anything major… unless you depend on the fish in it’s waters for your livelyhood and sustenance. Can’t you see how spirit works against your arguments as you make them? Was it coincidence that Apple Sauce spilled while McCain tried to continue his ‘quest for attention’?

Okay Merk. You want my thoughts on the matter? Fine, here goes:

Extreme measure: Eliminate anybody who’s ever worked for oil or gas from Congress, Judiciary, and Supreme Court.

Semi-extreme measure: Pull the oil subsidies and transfer them to the automakers mandating construction of production plants that will produce electric vehicles with a range of 200+ miles. The mass production will bring the price down to an affordable level. Let whatever ‘infrastructure’ changes that will be ‘necessary’ take care of themselves. Anyone who drives more than 200 miles a day as a commute, needs to rethink their location. Then, mandate retrofitting power plants with solar and wind power. Mandate cleaner burning coal. And, I guarrantee you someone will produce a ‘personal solar panel’ that your electric car can plug into, charging its battery, therefore not putting extensive load on the grid.

Example: Even as ugly as the Prius is, enough of them can’t be made to keep up with demand. Therefore, no matter what a new electric car looks like, it’ll be purchased. BAM! Zero emissions. Will oil use disappear? Hell no. I don’t think I’ve EVER said it needs to end. I only said it needs to end as a means for personal transportation. It will still be used as asphalt, plastics, etc……

There’s my ideas. I’d like to hear the problem with them…….

(Merkwurdigliebe)

Coach– I actually dont have a problem with most of what you’re saying…and I’ve been advocating similar things for some time

The only stipulation would be to find some sort of solution for long distance travellers…but technology will catch up

I’d also add more Nuclear power, some sort of water based fuel system for personal transportation for those without access to a reliable grid, or other synthetic fuel that can be rapidly produced (clean coal gasification?)…along with domestic drilling and upped refining capacity for the military and commercial uses, i.e. heavy machinery, and increased efficiency for remaining gas burning engines

As for your extreme measure, I’d love to see it, but you and I both know it’ll never happen…see we agree more than you thought

Jed Clampett

Is that the equivalent of GWB saying he would be the environmentalist president if elected during the debates against Gore? Oldest tactic in the book, blunt your opponent’s weapon by agreeing with him even though you never expect to truly agree or actually deliver on what you say. Only those who have trouble reading intent missed the fact he was a bold faced liar.

Jed Clampett

“Nature is not served by rigid laws, but by rhythmical,
reciprocal processes. Nature uses none of the preconditions of the chemist or the physicist for
the purposes of evolution. Nature excludes all fire on principle for purposes of growth; therefore all contemporary machines are unnatural and constructed
according to false premises. Nature avails herself of the biodynamic form of motion through
which the biological prerequisite for the emergence of life is provided. Its purpose is to ur-procreate higher’ conditions of matter out of the originally
inferior raw materials, which afford the evolutionally
older, or the numerically greater rising generation, the possibility of a constant capacity to evolve, for without any growing and increasing
reserves of energy there would be no evolution or development. This results first and foremost in the
collapse of the so-called Law of the Conservation of Energy, and in further consequence the Law of
Gravity, and all other dogmatics lose any rational or practical basis.” – Viktor Schauberger

I must furnish those who would protect or save life, with an energy source, which produces energy so cheaply that nuclear fission will not only be uneconomical, but ridiculous. This is the task I have set myself in what little life I have left. – Viktor Schauberger

Jed Clampett

What really sucks is that he succeded, only he was ripped off and the ideas that where given to him by spirit were witheld from humanity in order for a ‘chosen few’ ’silverspooners’ could continue to exert their influence over the population.

Should be hung in the public square as warning to other traitors.

Vote Obama!!

Anybody who was locked up in a cage for seven years has to be one crazy bastard. That alone, should make John W McSame NOT qualified to even run for president!