In 5 Years, when this man is proven to be mentally retarded, how are all of you going to feel about your blind support for a man who ran for president and couldn’t even carry his home state of Tennessee??

I guess this is really shooting the moon. What an empty headed clown.. I mean politician. I knew you were a wack job long ago and you still live up to my expectations. Please Al won’t you shut up, eat another donut and take a nap for a few years. IN all honestly you lost me shortly after you invented the … um… internet?

I guess this is really shooting the moon. What an empty headed clown.. I mean politician. I knew you were a wack job long ago and you still live up to my expectations. Please Al won’t you shut up, eat another donut and take a nap for a few years. IN all honestly you lost me shortly after you invented the … um… internet?

Is it so hard to believe that a radical solution may only be conceivable through radical means? I’m open to other options, but they same few and far between. Most often our “radical” thoughts come in affirming our commitment to consistent, malginant lethargy. Albert Einstein believed that insanity should be defined by repeating the same procedures, but expecting different results.

Jed Clampett

I remember when Jimmy Carter proposed the same plan in his crisis of confidence speech of July 15 1979. He implemented several programs to help bring us out of foreign oil dependency. Unfortunately, Reagan and the republicans dismantleded the all of them. Even the laws that were passed to protect the environment where set aside to help industry make millions upon millions. Now we are owned by the Chinese and pawned by a ragtag bunch of criminals that train like weekend warriors. Nice Job Republicans… keep making me feel more secure.

Somewhere In The Middle

Like Al Gore isn’t making millions upon millions with his investments in various climate change companies? If you think that Republicans are the only politicians that push the country in a direction that will line their own pockets, then you have your head firmly placed in between your buttocks.

Jesus, people. What the hell is your problem with Gore? Why don’t you just kill the man for bringing this all to our attention? Grow up you infants. The message is pure: Clean up your energy or the earth will do it for you, eliminating you in the process.

Deal with it.

(Merkwurdigliebe)

If the Earth is going to kill us, it sure isnt with global warming, as temperatures have plateued since 98…and scientists are jumping off the “consensus” train in droves

like any threat hyped up by either end of the political spectrum (terrorism anyone?) for political economic gain, scare tactics might s.ell, but I aint b.uying

Jed Clampett

This war and the global conflict they wish to create is about energy… oil in other words. Nothing else. the oil companies have been making money like crazy for almost a century. So much so, that they have been able to b_uy off governments and individuals in high places that will GIVE the magnates the planet’s resources as long as they get a few pennies on the dollar, which seem like alot. These people put you in this situation and some morons still defend them. I don’t really have to wonder why. Some folks would defend the devil as long as they got a little on their plate as well.
Just realize, the next big problem will be over water. Soon we will realize just how neglected the health of our water really is. We will learn just what the purpose of all those trees on the surface of the planet was. We shall learn that plant life was the best carbon sink around and also the best way to cool the earth. However, thanks to imbeciles like the Gliebe and his heroes in the white house and OPEC, it will be too late for humanity. Having shown it’s callousness and lack of compassion and empathy, this species is also destroyed, in the same way they showed the earth that diseased creatures should be treated. Just wipe them out like chickens with sars or cows with Hoof and mouth.

Good job… why would you not be screaming at the top of your lungs at your elected officials to resolve this?

Some people just aren’t ready to believe, or be reminded, that climate change, along with the occasional meteor slamming into earth, is the only thing that ever HAS wiped out mankind.

We know about ice ages. We know about plagues. We know about environments becoming uninhabitable. But, some people still go about their daily lives under the guise of ‘not in my lifetime, so who cares?’

If Gore is so wrong, then why is Boone Pickens in agreement?

It’s time to open eyes and realize what’s going on around us. Record breaking hurricanes. Record breaking floods. Record breaking fires. Wait until the earthquakes, diseases, and freezeouts come around. But, hey, as long as I can fill up my Oversized Because of My Undersized Kock Ford Expedition, everything’s going to be AOKAY!!!!

BTW: Gliebe, was that a climate change denial I just read? Gee, that’s odd. Someone that pushes for more oil drilling denying manmade climate change?? Gee…

(Merkwurdigliebe)

Coach– I believe that Climate Change exists, and that Man has probably some to do with it, but I dont b.uy into the BS that its a planet killer (just like I dont b.uy into the BS that terrorism is going to kill us all)

again, all data on current global temperatures have shown that temperature has plateued since 98…this is straight from NASA…many more scientists are challenging the IPCC every day…but I guess they’re all oil stooges, arent they?

I believe that the weather occurs in cycles, and we’re entering a warmer one (after all, temperature has been rising since the mid 1700s)…but What record breaking Hurricanes? There hasnt been a major one since 05, and this year isnt looking too different. Record breaking floods? Where? The midwest, and other parts of the world, floods every year…its what rivers do. Fires? Having lived in CA for over a decade, fires were a natural occurence that happened every year…even those dry and wet (and some of these fires occured during the “NEXT ICE AGE!!!!!! of the 1970s…oh wait, that one never happened either), an the cause of most fires is either negligent land management, or human caused

so, yeah, I dont b.uy into Global Warming as the end all be all…like anything else, it probably exists, and we’re probably contributing to it, but it’s incredibly arrogant to think that we’re the cause and solution to the problem

Somewhere In The Middle

I don’t necessarily have a problem with Gore, but I just find it amusing that you will rail against any conservative as being a part of this evil conspiracy to dupe us all out of our cash all the while destroying our earth, yet when liberals do the same thing (make loads of money off the agenda they are pushing), you consider them noble. You say that the Iraq war was started over oil and oil alone, never once allowing for the possibility that some people may have viewed Saddam as an evil SOB that had to be stopped. With that logic, maybe Al Gore is only pushing the climate change because he now knows that he can make a s@$tpot full of money off of it. The fact is, they are all politicians and they are looking out for themselves. If you think Al Gore or Barack Obama care about you more than George W or John McCain you’re wrong. None of them give a s@$t about you.

Another quality post from the Alleged Middleman.

Global War on Terror = Scam

Climate Change = Real. And, it’s a mankind killer, as shown throughout history.

But, that’s okay, it’s definitely cooler with your head in the sand. So, for that matter, instead of acknowledging that respecting the environment is ‘noble’, just find some cooler sand to stick said head into…..

(Merkwurdigliebe)

It may or may not be a mankind killer (in terms of ice ages, Milankovich cycles, and sun cycles), but as for it killing us anytime soon…the science isnt on your side. NASA’s satellite imaging has recored no increase in temperatures since 98, and Dave Evans, in charge of bringing Australia in line with the Kyoto protocols has debunked the rising temperature scam as well…the tell-tale signs of mass global warming, carbon hot spots in the upper atmosphere, dont exist…read his piece “No Smoking Hot Spot” in the Australian…also, more and more scientists are questioning the skewed data from the IPCC computer analysis, which distorted models but up to hundreds of points…it seems “Big Environment” isnt so clean either after all…

so, like the whole global cooling scam that came and went with the 70s, and the flourocarbon scam that came after it, I’m sorry, but global warming is just another in the left’s long line of scare tactics, like terror for the right…thats not to say we should pollute with disregard, but if the earth is going to kill us, it sure as hell isnt going to be with global warming…but hey, all the naysayers are oil stooges right?

Merk,

This line of debate has evolved into how many angels can you get onto the head of a pin.

I’m pretty sure everyone agrees that if the population continues to increase and the forests are continually ‘mined’ and carbon emissions continue at the current pace, we’re screwed.

The question becomes not one of ‘if,’ but ‘when.’ Henry Wallace, first Ag Sect’y under FDR, tried to explain to corn farmers that replanting the fields, year after year, would deplete the soil so that nothing would grow. The gov’t, same gov’t everyone seems to complain about and find fault with, had to FORCE the farmers to rotate crops and even let some fields fallow with the farmers receiving recompense for their ‘enlightenment.’

They, the gov’t, was too late and the dust bowl effect of the 30s was born.

In this day of ‘the sky is falling’ politics, gloom and doom seem to have lost their impact. At least the long term ones. ‘Suggest’ that mushroom clouds ‘might’ appear on our horizon and all you’ll see are asses and elbows.

Hereafter would normally follow a treatise on good gov’t being better than big gov’t OR small gov’t. Better yet, than no gov’t. But I shall demur out of great respect for those who’ve heard me recite it before.

Somewhere In The Middle

Coach you seem to be side-stepping my point. I never said that respecting the earth isn’t a noble cause or that climate change isn’t a concern that needs to be addressed. What I did say is that Al Gore is getting filthy rich from his crusade against global warming and telling us what we NEED to do to stop it all the while he’s not walking his own talk. My point is that when conservatives are in the same position you automatically question their motives and assume that their interest lies solely in their own financial gain. Yet, you don’t seem the least bit skeptical of Al’s motives.

Exactly Midman. I’m NOT AT ALL skeptical of Gore’s motives, simply because he’s the first ‘entrepreneuer/politician’ to put himself out there and sacrifice much of his original capital getting the message out.
When an oilman, who has spent most of his life suppressing technology for the betterment of his and his cronies pocketbooks, yes, I’m more than skeptical.

Ofcourse somebody’s going to make money. What the hell do you expect? Just because you have a problem with Gore, and liberals in general, don’t excuse Pickens from a harsh view. Remember, it’s because of him and his cronies that we’re in the position we’re in. Not Gore.

(Merkwurdigliebe)

yup, because Gore doesnt stand to have his personal capital re-earned ten fold or more…Gore is like any other politician, following the money, and one who doesnt especially walk the walk either…if one were wise or smart they would train a baleful eye on both Gore and Pickens…at least Pickens has the balls enough to declare that he’s only in it for the money and not over kook/discredited science or some messiah complex because he didnt become prez

(Merkwurdigliebe)

yup, because Gore doesnt stand to have his personal capital re-earned ten fold or more…Gore is like any other politician, following the money, and one who doesnt especially walk the walk either…if one were wise or smart they would train a baleful eye on both Gore and Pickens…at least Pickens has the balls enough to declare that he’s only in it for the money and not over kook/discredited science or some messiah complex because he didnt become prez…

Jed Clampett

Rather absurd that someone like U, who doesn’t believe a bit of theology and are a capitalist pig through and through would expect Gore to be noble and give up profit in his quest to save his homeworld. Profit that can be used to reinvest into the system and make even further improvements.
Yet you ascribe the greedy bastard persona to him and question the nobility of his intent… as if you where even capable of perceiving intent… while at the same time defending and promoting one that has steered the nation into the corporate welfare system dependant on the populace that it has become, can you possibly be that self deluded to not reaiize when you are being deceived by someone else?
It is fascinating yet sickeningly frightening to realize just how hypocritical and callous the upper classes have become and how blinded they are to the impact they have on those less fortunate than them. Perhaps that good fortune must be taken away in order to teach a lesson that will whitstand the test of generations. Too bad we don’t seem to be able to choose the easier, more productive, less contentious and destructive path. It’s not nature’s preferred way, and she doesn’t like what she’s about to be forced to do in order to correct it.

(Merkwurdigliebe)

But Ol’ Gore wouldnt be a member of the upper class you villianize, now would he? Al Gore with his home in Nashville that consumes much more power than any other home in the surrounding area (think him and Tipper are turning the thermostat down and putting on Cardigan sweaters? didnt think so)…or the fact that its ok for HIM to jet around the world on private jets, and for HIS family to be shuttled around in SUV’s, using up more gas in a month than most American families will use in a year, but not everyone else…and paiting him as a saint as he’s tied in with one of the largest venture capital firms in the country (Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers), one of those same companies who you accuse of greed…I guess only when repubs are involved, huh?

so all the signs are adding up that this “messiah” is nothing but a “do as I say, not as I do” liberal…who hides behind saving the planet under the guise of making himself insanely wealthy (a nice little added bonus, wouldnt you say?)…at least Pickens will tell you upfront that he’s only in it for the money and doesnt give a damn about anything else

so are his intentions true? maybe…but show me a politician who isnt corrupted by cash and I’ll show you a bridge in Brooklyn I can s.ell you for six pence on the dollar…

Jed Clampett

I do not villanize them, you do so and twist the issue in order to give yourself a leg to stand on since you are obviously devoid of a steady platform.
I made over $300 grand in my buiz last year, how could i villanize myself. As I see what Republicans are doing to this great nation, I realize the time is now right for me to take my money and start some schools in latin america. You see, the modern educational system is a total mess and would be counterproductive to try and start such schools here. Besides, it’s not good to be in a society bent on self-destruction. But I know that like me, there are others who have been successful and we undestand we can make it anywhere while actually helping others. We have surpassed that blockage that you are stuck in which reflects so much on what you project unto others. You have to care about yourself before you can care about others, gliebe, and it’s evident that you care little about others, which unfortunately reflects on yourself.

If you were truly honest about your arguments against Gore, you know, the typical right wings talking points you spit out, then you would also rile against Pickens having a mcMansion and riding around on private jets, or Hathaway, or Gates or Bush or…. should I go on? or do you get it? never mind. I know better.

(Merkwurdigliebe)

huh? I though I was a stooge and mouthpiece of big business/the upper class…you cant have it both ways Jed

second: I care for those who dont have the ability to care for themselves…those who have such ability and make bad choices I have no pity or tax dollars for them

And your argument about Pickens, Bush, Hathaway, and Gates is specious…they’re not telling everyone else how to live, while not following their own advice…those who live in glass houses shouldnt be the first to throw stones, eh Jed?

Jed Clampett

I haven’t villified them, merely pointed out their evil deeds. They did that to themselves. I try to do it as calmly as possible even though theyr transgressions boil my blood, particularly when I see the greedy bastards sitting at church and taking communion. But that’s just me, I guess.
you like to take what we say(those of us who see this world differently than you) and amplify it and then acredit it to us. A common tactic of those that don’t really have a platform to stand on, so they try to sway others with the flimsiest of arguments loaded with emotion instead of reason so they can reach that particuar group that falls for that kind of sh*t. I’m trying to reach the others… those who have already realized what a sorry situation right wingers have led our country to, in the hopes that some will be sparked into action. One can only hope that perhaps it reaches some who have anough money to do good, to actually put it to work for the benefit of all instead of stashing it away and hurting the economy like the conglomerates are doing.

second. you mean like those who made the poor choice to invest with the bunch of criminals at bear sterns? They just made a bad choice and should have known better. Why does my tax money have to go to protect the ones that should loose their shirts? Won’t that hurt my economy to give up such huge amounts in corporate welfare? These are the entitlement programs that really hurt the nation. They take money out of the treasury that should be used for social programs and infrastructure development and give it to poor businessmen who can’t seem to realize that their greed is destroying their companies… but since the government bails them out if they are large and crooked enough, then nothing to worry about, RIGHT? that’s the ones your talking about, huh?

I haven’t heard Gore tell us how to live our lives, he’s merely warning of impending disaster and giving the possible solutions. He made a proposal that should be scrutinized and possibly voted on and implemented… or perhaps implemented by some in industry who care. That’s the way it’s supposed to be done in a free society… meanwhile, Pickens and company actually removed your choices, surrepticiously, using the wide open back door of the right wing, who admited them in with gusto and took it in it’s entirety without as much as a flinch, not caring that they’ve visited trachery upon their contrymen for the sake of of a few bucks. Gates… shrewed businessman or thief? Exclusivity contracts for OS supplies to large companies that kept linux out of the ‘free’ market made him a monopoly and filled his pockets with billions. Now he ocassionaly has a pr campaing to make us think he’s actually using those billions to do good instead of merely stashing them in an overbloated foundation. It seems to be drawing a bunch of people that want to secure their assets… go figure…. I guess if it’s good enough for Howard Hughes.

What is sad is that no one realizes just how fragile the glass of that house really is, that little spider is having to work overtime to keep her web from collapsing. I wonder how long it will take before she decides to collect it all up and then just recast the whole thing anew.
You like to throw rocks at it all the time, eventually it will break…. kind of like that vein in your forehead.

Well, now if Al Gore has made improvements to his house, lowering his ‘carbon footprint’, would some of you, maybe, change your tune about him????? Here’s your chance….Because he’s done exactly that. Now, we wait for the ‘other’ reason to hate him…..

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Jed Clampett

Gore completed the upgrades on his house in nov 2007. The right wing, with the help of Faux News, has been beeting the drum against Al Gore on his consumptions since before that. But they ignore the news worthy fact that he’s been able to almost entirely remove his home from the electric grid, if they were to mention that, they couldn’t keep stirring up the halfwits and malinformed’s like the Glib into a frenzy. They would also expose the true solution to this mess. removing the consumer’s home from the grid.
They merely hate Gore because they realize he has the monetary backing and political and personal charisma to really hurt the oligarchs…. look how they PR’d edwards to death. The funny thing is they use the ‘Hypocresy’ argument, yet refuse to decry the hypocresy in their own heroes.

They don’t call that damn thing the great deciever for nothing man.

Somewhere In The Middle

If Al Gore has turned his mansion in Nashville into a home “off the grid” then I commend him for that. The issue I had with Gore as with anyone, is when they tell me what to do with my life and what I need to do, but then don’t do the same themselves. That is what makes John Edwards a raving hypocrite as he told us about the two Americas and how we should be ashamed, yet he had no problem having an 22,000 square foot mansion. I don’t go after conservatives for such ridiculous lavishness because they aren’t telling me they are going to take more of my money to give to other people. Many Republicans are hypocrites for other reasons, like when it comes to gay rights (Mark Foley, Larry Craig anyone?). That hypocrisy is just as bad.

Jed Clampett

Republicans don’t ask you whether to give your money to the less fortunate, they just do it. Poor little exxon, bear sterns, verizon, ATT, you name it, these poor companies are getting bloated gov contracts and tax breaks and all kinds of perks, yet these guys are fine with that… but give a kid a decent chance to be fed and learn and they cry ‘cost, it’s too expensive’. Go figure.

Jed, let’s not forget Halliburton, KBR, Blackwater, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Israel, India, and let’s also not forget the Mariana Islands, etc…….
Let’s also not forget gas prices……