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John McCain’s War on Beer

6/10/08, 12:21 pm EST


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tom | 6/10/2008, 12:42 pm EST

this blog’s title says it’s for news

what gives?

Anonymous | 6/10/2008, 1:11 pm EST

Jed Clampett

He’s been making more and more ‘misstatements’ and ‘misrecolectings’ here lately. Seems his age is starting to catch up with him.

PissedOffinCalifornia | 6/10/2008, 3:41 pm EST

Funny that if McCain makes a mis-quote it is here immediately, but when Barack claimed he had “only been to 56 or 57 states” not a peep was heard.

dishonest | 6/10/2008, 3:42 pm EST

Don’t trust everything you read, tom.

Anonymous | 6/10/2008, 4:21 pm EST

(Somewhere In The Middle)

PissedOff, you shouldn’t be surprised. From the get-go it’s been obvious who Rolling Stone wants in the White House. Don’t expect fair or balanced coverage of the campaign here. Still, it is in interesting to see the positions of the far left.

Hamoth | 6/10/2008, 6:37 pm EST

PissedOffinCalifornia , you should listen to Air America (Liberal radio) where he was mercilessly mocked for it. It seems odd to me that only liberals are comfortable making fun of Obama…or maybe there was a peep and you are just to biased to notice.

You seemed to have heard about this 57 states from somewhere…so I guess there was a peep huh?

I guess that means you are just crazy.

PissedOffinCalifornia | 6/10/2008, 7:41 pm EST

Somewhere in the Middle.
I think Hamoth just proved your point.

honest | 6/10/2008, 8:41 pm EST

Don’t trust everything you type either, tom.

Anonymous | 6/11/2008, 10:27 am EST

Jed Clampett

Hey Gliebe,

If the main stream media is so liberal, how come none of the main news outlets except NBC Nightly News carried the story about the recently released report that outlines how the administration missused and embellished inteligence in order to mislead the american people into an unecessary war? And why is it none of them gave it the attention or importance level it deserved?
Maybe it’s just not that important to know that a REPUBLICAN president abused his power in order to start a misguided military invasion of an oil rich country in order for his party and other cronies to get access to the treasury and turn a projected surplus into the biggest budget deficit in decades. Much different than when Clinton was in office and dateline and other news shows had some story about government waste or abuse on a weekly basis. These days, all they do is troll court houses looking for people’s dirty laundry to air rather than do some real investigative reporting on issues that are of importance to the populace.
If you think that doesn’t affect the economy, you are insane. And if you think the media and it’s uberwhealthy owners are not in collusion with the party that will help them perpetuate the situation that makes them even richer, then you are totally naive.

Even on these boards the report is being ignored as if it is meaningless, actually, it is another boatload of evidence that, god willing, will bring this administration up on charges.

Coach | 6/11/2008, 11:44 am EST

Settle down people. The ‘liberal’ media is just a pipedream for you people. If the media is so liberal, why do they refuse to talk about the Bush family connections dating back to Prescott? Why does the ‘liberal’ media continue to bury administration conspiracy in the back pages, if at all?

And, no, this site isn’t dedicated to Obama. If you recall, every single article we recieved for a while was about HRC.

Boy, are you people in for an 8-year nightmare. But, if it’s any consolation, we know what an 8-year nightmare is like, thanks to Bush and his Vaderites.

Anonymous | 6/11/2008, 5:09 pm EST

(Somewhere In The Middle)

Jed, which report were you referring to? I would be interested in checking it out. I think that while some networks may want to run with a story that is widespread on the internet, they can’t because of the fact checking they are at least supposed to do. After Rather looked like a jackass for running with his story without checking its validity, I don’t think many in the news are willing to take that chance, despite their strong personal sentiments.

Anonymous | 6/11/2008, 8:54 pm EST

Jed Clampett

sure, here you go…

intelligence.senate.g ov/080605/phase2a.pdf

being from the senate, I would think it was vetted. Or at least cleaned up, but seeing how it’s 172 pages of congressional legalese, I can understand why there may be a problem with getting through the full text.
Or they are astounded at what is found and what is being hidden… like that magic bullet thing.

Anonymous | 6/11/2008, 9:34 pm EST

Jed Clampett

BTW – Rather’s story was mostly fact, but the whole thing was discarded because of one particular item. That document, seeing how the world actually works, was probably a document planted in the story for the very purpose of killing the whole thing and discrediting Rather. He was going after Bush rather intensly… pardon the pun… and I think we’ve already established who is mostly at the reigns of the major media outlets. Wouldn’t have been hard to do and would have the desired effect of self-sensoring other reporters and remove a thorn in their side.

Anonymous | 6/12/2008, 12:40 am EST

(Merkwurdigliebe)

Jed– honestly, do you get pleasure from talking out your @ss ignorantly making up stuff I’ve said? When/Where have I ever posted that the media is liberal?

What I posted was that the media is neither liberal nor conservative, but it’s own self-serving entity…the old warhorse “the Media’s Liberal! The media’s Conservative!” is a cr*p talking point for little minds who have no inclination how or why the media works and does the things it does

as for the answer to why the media doesnt cover important stuff Jed? Its because the average dumb American doesnt care…the media only s.ells what the people want…and in the era of 24 hour news, as well as a general fracturing of the traditional media into digital forms, it little surprise that the media only focuses on flashy, shallow coverage…sex and blood s.ell, lengthy political subjects do not, hence this post on McCain

so please, stop putting words in my mouth

The Enemy Below | 6/13/2008, 9:33 pm EST

True!!There’s No Liberal Media*(*Exception of The New York times and’Alternative’Weeklies!!)or Conservative Media*(Exception of New Max;The American Spectator and Faux Snooze!!);Merely A Self Serving Self Grandizing Media!!

Anonymous | 6/18/2008, 1:24 am EST

Jed Clampett

wow, the Gliebe says he believes the media is neither liberal or conservative and therefore I must believe his words of the moment rather than all the other comments alluding to the opposite, or the allusions to the contrary. I guess I should have really believed GWB when he said in the Gore debates that he would be the environment president. He still believes he’s the enviromental president, I guess I should be naive and believe him. As I should believe there is no way of getting more than 15% of the energy in gasoline.right gliebe? sorry, I was born with a brain and independent spirit. Been misled by others much more capable and astute than you, learned much from them, would be foolish to just take you at your word when your unguarded statements say so much more about you. Why do you think I throw in comments to piss you off and make you write from that emotion. It makes the demon come out and teach me what they are planning.

Anonymous | 6/18/2008, 3:58 pm EST

(Merkwurdigliebe)

Jed– either provide the comments your talking about, or shut the hell up…I dont care whether you believe me or not, its your right to live in self delusion about the media, but please, stop putting words in my mouth and characterizing me in ways that are not true

you didnt even refute my point, you merely continue to prattle on about spirits, demons, and everything else but the subject of the post…you always talk about it, but I wonder, why are YOU always obfuscating?

as for gasoline, you provide me with a mass producible model that increases eficiency that ISN’T merely a Tesla or Schauberger prototype/hypothetical, and has real market potential, then I’ll happily bite

Anonymous | 6/19/2008, 11:02 am EST

Jed Clampett

We all know it’s not nearly as simple as liberal media or conservative media. But it is obvious our media outlets, some more than others, are more propaganda tools than information sources. We’ve had congressional reports stating as much.

Oh, you want to be provided with the working model ready to put in your car before you accept anything other than the current paradigm can possibly exist?
Is it that since you can’t possibly understand the complicated physics principles involved in new ways of doing things that you adamantly oppose and attempt to refute them?

How about this one?…

peswiki.com/index.p hp/Directory:Shinyeon_Energy_R esearch_Center

It’s based on natural systems if I understand it right, which should scale nicely to home use of maybe 5 to 10 kw a day. That would be enough for cooling, cooking, water collection and purification.etc.etc. Maybe some left over to $ell back to the grid.

What about the vapor system I posted on the newer post? does that one not make any sense to you? Makes me want to check which 401k investments are Hydrocarbon heavy and start positioning to divest. How about you?

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