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Hillary’s Run: The Meaning Is In Her Hands

6/8/08, 9:17 pm EST

Just because Clinton has bowed out of the race does not mean Obama is the obvious choice. He’s really quite smooth and says all of the right things to make people believe him just like those popular guys in school often could get whatever they wanted. I’m hoping he won’t to us what those guys did to the girls they dated. — “Still Watching,” on a Washington Post message board

Following the last debate, there was some mention of the fact that Obama helped Hillary out of her chair. (I also saw him help her INTO her seat.) Even that was turned into a positive by the media. I didn’t hear anyone say the act was sexist or inappropriate. IT WAS! — “lindalee,” on a Huffington Post message board

Terribly sexist. — Geraldine Ferraro, on Barack Obama’s campaign

Well, Hillary is finally out of the race. Sort of. Her campaign is suspended and her hopes for 2008 are officially over, sort of, meaning it’s now appropriate, sort of, to reflect upon the meaning of her run for office this year.

And that, folks, is already saying something — that fact that it’s not a time to write a political obituary for Hillary Clinton. Had she lost in New Hampshire this year and then bowed out of the race — and she came within a few percentage points of having that scenario unfold — Hillary Clinton most likely would have been finished as a presidential hopeful for good.
But she stayed in it, amazingly, fighting off four or five near-death experiences to remain a viable candidate. The mere fact hat she survived New Hampshire, and Nevada, and Super Tuesday, and Texas, and all of those other failsafe points earlier on in the race is incredible enough; she could have bowed out at any time after those primaries and it would still have been an amazing run.

But in one of the weirder episodes in the history of American presidential politics, she stayed in it long after the math had already been decided (which was basically after the Potomac primaries) in Barack Obama’s favor, with the result that we now enter the general election season looking at an almost unheard-of triangular scenario. The American electorate is now basically split into thirds, and how Hillary proceeds from here will shape the future of all three groups.

If Hillary sits out the general election season, or campaigns halfheartedly for Obama, and McCain wins, she becomes the automatic frontrunner for the Democratic ticket in 2012.

Hillary of course must be aware of this calculus and as such is faced with an unprecedented moral/ethical choice heading into the fall. If she campaigns hard for Obama, and helps pull all of her disaffected voters back onto the Democratic ticket, Obama will probably win this thing in a landslide. If she pulls a slowdown, however, and a big chunk of her voters sit this one out or vote for McCain, it will greatly enhance her own prospects for the presidency four years later.

Hillary therefore must choose between two loyalties: party and self. Depending on how one looks at things, one might even say the choice is between country and self. Assuming that one believes the differences between a Republican presidency and a Democratic presidency would be profound, Hillary now must decide if she thinks that the country would be better off suffering through four years of John McCain before getting a shot at putting her own excellent, experienced self in the Oval Office, or whether it would be better off putting a man whose platform is almost identical to her own in there right away.

Anyone who thinks that should be an easy choice — that the “right” thing to do is obviously to put party over self, and not only help Obama get elected but help strip the Republicans of power — is kidding himself or herself. The American presidency is the biggest prize on the planet Earth. Should a beaten and fatigued Barack Obama fall even one vote short in a race against a very old and very flawed Republican candidate, Hillary Clinton suddenly becomes about a 1-3 Vegas favorite for the Big Seat four years from now.

Ask yourself how hard you’d stump for a once-loathed rival in that scenario. Better yet, ask your friendly neighborhood psychiatrist how easy it would be for a woman who has suffered as much public abuse and humiliation as Hillary Clinton has over the last few decades to rationalize the many subtle forms of sabotage that are now open to her with regard to Obama’s campaign, should she choose to go that route.

As this increasingly strange campaign season unfolded I often had people ask me what the hell Hillary Clinton was doing. Particularly after the Potomac primaries, the actual motives of Hillary Clinton for continuing on and punching holes in the presumptive Democratic nominee as she did seemed to many of us campaign reporters to be a genuine, Agatha Christie-worthy mystery.

At first, I didn’t have an answer for anyone who asked that question. But as time wore on, and I started to get more and more letters and read more and more Internet postings like the ones above, I thought I started to grasp the bigger picture. The only way that Hillary Clinton’s behavior back then makes any sense at all, ethical or otherwise, is if she viewed her political career purely through the prism of feminist achievement, i.e. as a way to provide inspiration to every qualified woman who was ever asked or expected to step aside in life for the sake of a man.

Where other women in that situation might have been forced to concede — women in professional environments who couldn’t take a stand against their bosses and risk losing their jobs, women in abusive relationships forced to coddle the egos of inferior men in order to protect their own or their children’s physical well-being — Hillary was able to fight on. The fact that she was not only able to fight on, but inflict real damage against her smug, seductive, would-be male conqueror, was an added bonus.

As a symbol of feminist resolve Hillary was a smashing success, and an inspiration of historical proportions. Generations of young women will grow up remembering this race as a great national lesson in which the country was taught that a woman can succeed in head-to-head combat with men through sheer blood-and-guts aggressiveness and pugilistic resolve, while it is men who sometimes have to resort to good looks and charm to get over in life. As a smasher of stereotypes (not only female stereotypes but male ones), Hillary Clinton has no equal in modern history. And if that was her thinking in staying in the race, I’d have a hard time arguing with her logic.

But there are two problems with this somewhat heroic interpretation of Hillary’s campaign.

The first is that in order for Hillary to continue a campaign whose only logical pretext was as a symbolic campaign against sexism and sexist stereotypes, it appears that she and her supporters felt it necessary to turn Barack Obama into a villain, a symbol both of male iniquity and of the sins of a male-dominated society.

At first, the implication that Barack Obama’s campaign was somehow wind-aided by sexism or in fact sexist itself was merely implied in the rhetoric of Clinton supporters, or in Hillary‘s own speeches. But later it became overt. Former vice-presidential hopeful Geraldine Ferraro spelled it out openly after her celebrated interview with The New York Times in which she called Obama “terribly sexist.” Here is how one newspaper summed up Ferraro’s evidence of Obama sexism:

“His response to Mrs. Clinton’s reminiscences about learning to shoot as a girl at her grandfather’s summer cabin in Pennsylvania. Miss Ferraro said: ‘He walked up and down the stage with his microphone like a stand-up comic and ridiculed her as an Annie Oakley,’ she said, quoting his reference to the legendary female sharpshooter. ‘Would he have ridiculed a man by comparing him to John Wayne? Of course not.’

His apparently dismissive description of Mrs. Clinton as ‘likeable enough’ during a televised debate before the New Hampshire primaries.

His role in an earlier debate in Philadelphia when several of the male candidates running at the time were said to have ganged up on her, prompting Mrs. Clinton to complain about the ‘boy’s club’ of U.S. politics.

His ‘failure,’ Miss Ferraro claims, to speak out against other sexist acts such as lewd T-shirts, the men who shouted ‘Iron my shirt!’ at Mrs. Clinton and jibes about her ‘cackle.’ Mr. Obama also apologized to a female reporter he called ’sweetie’ in an aside that received widespread coverage.”

To sum up, this famous and influential female politician classified as “terrible sexism” a mocking comparison of Hillary, who was somewhat absurdly describing herself as a cabin-raised child of the frontier, to a famous frontier woman (was he supposed to pick Daniel Boone or Davy Crockett?), a comment that Hillary was likeable, Obama’s participation in a debate in which trailing candidates “ganged up” on the frontrunner (as if that had never happened before!), and his failure to speak out against a) an obscure T-shirt and b) a description of Hillary’s off-putting laugh that, excuse me, is totally accurate.

For these crimes, Geraldine Ferraro is now considering throwing her support to a Republican politician who:

a) Once sat out a vote on the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, claiming that he would have opposed legislating equal pay for women had he voted. Instead of equal pay, McCain said, women need “education and training”

b) Has pledged to overturn Roe v. Wade

c) Opposed the Title X family planning program, which among other things would have provided low-income women with birth control and breast and cervical cancer screening

d) Opposed efforts to permit women to fly combat missions in the military. His reasoning: “The purpose of the military is first to defend the nation’s vital security interests throughout the globe, and only second to ensure equality.”

In other words, asked to pick the real sexist between a man who called Hillary Clinton “likeable” and a man who has openly said that letting women fly fighter planes would weaken the country, Geraldine Ferraro picked the former.

And she wasn’t alone. Because turning Barack Obama into a sexist was rhetorically necessary to justify Hillary’s scorched-earth campaign, the last few months of the Democratic nominating process became a strange exercise in over-interpretative Internet sleuthing and conspiratorial thinking, with the result being that by the end of the process, the use of seemingly suggestive words and gestures began to overtake genuinely regressive policies and the imposition of real barriers as the national definition of what “sexism” is.

Women were united behind Hillary Clinton as never before, and furiously fighting every perceived sexist slight of Hillary or her campaign — but these slights were quite often of the offhand and/or patently absurd variety, like for instance Obama’s notorious use of the word “periodically” to describe Hillary’s moods, or his contention that “the claws come out” when one challenges the status quo, Hillary’s criticism being the claws. There was an enormous backlash against the word “claws,” as if this were somehow a kind of code men use to describe aggressive women — in the same way “cackle” was supposedly a widely-accepted and instantly identifiable means of comparing strong women to witches.

The lowlight for me of this entire campaign to describe Obama as a sexist was the “Obama gives Hillary the finger” YouTube phenomenon, a short video clip that made the rounds of all of the anti-Obama sites that purported to show Obama slyly using the pretext of an itch on his face to give Hillary the finger with his scratching hand. Now, in fact, if you look at the video, he’s scratching his face with two fingers — but even if it wasn’t, so what? Is it really believable that the Harvard-educated Barack Obama would intentionally give his opponent the finger, flashing it surreptitiously like O.J. holding up a gang sign on TV? Of course not.

It was the kind of thing that you only saw if you were looking for it, and looking for it not occasionally but constantly. How many times did Barack Obama scratch his face this year while talking about Hillary Clinton? Fifty? A hundred? Five hundred? The people who were even looking for that one time that he used his middle finger were not unlike those loonies who found the face of Jesus in the ultrasound image of some British woman’s baby. You’re only seeing that shit if you’re inclined to see the face of Jesus in everything — the patterns in a plate of corned beef hash, the cracks in a piece of water-damaged dry wall, etc.

My point in all of this is that Hillary Clinton’s decision to fight on after the math had already eliminated her only made sense if she was fighting for the cause of feminism, in order to serve as an inspirational symbol for abused and belittled women everywhere. But this clarion-call campaign made false villains out of Barack Obama and his supporters, in the process rendering the term sexism at least somewhat meaningless by virtue of its extreme overuse.

Hillary Clinton rallied millions of women who were the victims of real sexism behind the cause of her campaign — and then focused all of their real and really justified anger and frustration at an otherwise progressive candidate, whose biggest crime against women was that he had honestly and fairly defeated a female opponent on the way to the nomination. The beating Obama took for this supposed offense left deep scars not only on him personally, but perhaps on the Democratic party heading into the fall — and this was a punishment that, in my mind at least, did not really fit the crime, unless you were willing to argue that the anti-choice, anti-equal pay Republican party was somehow no more regressive in its attitudes toward women than would be the Democratic Party under Barack Obama.

So that was one problem with viewing Hillary’s campaign through that heroic prism, i.e. that of an inspirational female leader refusing to step aside when told by a male-dominated political hierarchy. The other was that I just don’t believe it.

I personally believe that had it been Bill Clinton running and not Hillary, he would have behaved exactly the same way. This was probably a story of an extremely ambitious politician refusing to give up the dream of earthly power, nothing more, nothing less. Hillary stayed in the race because she thought that, by hook or by crook, she could keep it close enough, and bloody Obama’s nose enough, to convince the party elders to hand her the nomination. It was the behavior of someone who voted for the Iraq war when she thought the war was a political winner, and criticized it when she thought it was a loser; who voted for free-trade agreements when that was good campaign-contribution-earning politics, and railed against them when she had to campaign in union states.

This is a politician who used every weapon in her arsenal to knock Obama off, smearing his friends and associations, impugning his patriotism, implying that his presidency would invite terrorist attacks, belittling his candidacy for being based on large numbers of minority voters, and so on. It requires a serious leap of the imagination to believe that she did all of this, and in doing so threw her party’s November chances on the proverbial iceberg, to advance the cause of women. It seems to me more likely that she larded her campaign with feminist symbolism for the same reason that, needing working-class support against an opponent who polled badly with that demographic, she talked up her Pennsylvania-cabin roots and her grandfather’s past working in a lace mill — because she’s a politician, and that’s where the votes were.

Or maybe not, maybe I have this all wrong. The beauty of this kind of analysis is that now all we have to do to finally understand what we saw this spring is wait, watch, and see what Hillary Clinton does from now on. Hillary’s struggle fell a hair short, but now she finds herself in a kind of political purgatory, the leader of a massive, angry voter demographic that will likely follow along to wherever she chooses to take this country.

And it really is up to her. If she lets Barack Obama twist in the wind, and sits the fall out, she elects John McCain — and we’ll know that she doesn’t really give a shit about ending the war, or staving off a financial crisis, or keeping the Supreme Court safe for reproductive rights, or anything else beyond getting her and her husband’s furniture back into the White House sometime in the next eight years.

But if she turns this thing around, and plays loyal soldier for the party, and helps reassure her voters that it’s okay to for her erstwhile un-American, inexperienced villain of a young black opponent, we’ll know that Hillary Clinton’s amazingly tenacious campaign wasn’t the selfish, indulgent, pointlessly divisive and destructive exercise it seems like right now to skeptics like me, but a powerful, inspirational, and historically meaningful message sent to the world about the ability of women to compete and succeed in what used to be a man’s game. That it can only have been one or the other is without a doubt, at this point. It’s up to her now to tell us what the hell it is we just watched over the last five months.


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ismet | 6/19/2008, 7:20 am EST

American people are very lucky. Unalike Australians you do not get fined for not voting. The most you could do to submit a protest vote about having to participate in a mandatory ballot is to write on the ballot paper how you feel about that. You will then have successfully exercised your illegal right of freedom of choice not to vote.
And when the ballots are perused your endearments get screwed up and register as an invalid vote.
It’s our colonial past. To legislate a system without choice
so as to either conform (lest you should suffer the lash) or resort to criminal activity to exercise
your rights in a ‘free’ world.

dc matthews | 6/18/2008, 10:00 am EST

i hope some of the more extremist Hillary people can comeback on board instead of the spiteful- go to mccain. which makes no sense .
go for the man who is anti women’s rights anti choice no birth control and no welfare that sets the children up for a cruel life.!!!!
This guy who sings and smiles brightly about bombing MORE human beings.

Obama the one with JD IN CONSTITUTIONAL LAW always for ALL OF us. oops held Clinton’s chair and said sweetie? the horror!
And as compared to BILL.!!!!!

How does Ferraro and NOW account for Bill?

Mariposa | 6/16/2008, 3:22 pm EST

Matt Taibbi, you are truly my hero!

Joan | 6/16/2008, 11:54 am EST

Suggest all of you go to the library, read every 1990’s book on both of them. She had a scheme to lift him into the WH, then he would lift her. Look at some of the pictures of her in a moo-moo with long greasy hair and over-sized horn-rimmed glasses when Little Rock politicians told her to change her dress when he campaigned for gov. Schemers both. She, the bigger one. Even to covering her hips and legs. Ever wonder why? Slippery

BReal | 6/14/2008, 12:33 am EST

Matt’s perceptions and skepticism are fair and insightful. He’s giving HRC more credit than most people do by even suggesting that what she does now still matters.

Gary Moos (Male) | 6/13/2008, 3:24 pm EST

In your piece “Hillary’s Run: The Meaning Is In Her Hands” you ended a paragragh as follows:

“-in the same way “cackle” was supposedly a widely-accepted and instantly identifiable means of comparing strong women to witches.”

Your understanding of the use of the word “cackle” is very misguided, “cackle” is a widely-accepted and instantly identifiable means of comparing women to hens. Ask your editor, you’ll see.

The point is that sexism is so pervasive in America (and throughout the world) that we tend to overlook it. Imagine the backlash if Obama’s preening had been compared to that of a monkey. Racism is unforgivable. Rich and powerful people get fired from well paying jobs for one slip, if a remark is deemed racist, not so for a sexist remark.

YOU! YOU! HELPED US LOSE! | 6/13/2008, 12:53 pm EST

FOR ALL THOSE OBAMA FREAKS YOU JUST HANDED THE WHITE HOUSE TO THE NEO CONS!

BARACK HUSSAIN OBAMA DOES’NT HAVE A SNOW BALLS CHANCE IN HELL TO WIN!

WE ARE DOOMED!

YOU! YOU! HELPED US LOSE! | 6/13/2008, 12:53 pm EST

FOR ALL THOSE OBAMA FREAKS YOU JUST HANDED THE WHITE HOUSE TO THE NEO CONS!

BARACK HUSSAIN OBAMA DOES’NT HAVE A SNOW BALLS CHANCE IN HELL TO WIN!

WE ARE DOOMED!

claypole | 6/12/2008, 6:11 pm EST

just get over it and vote for obama. mccain should not be president

Em | 6/12/2008, 12:50 am EST

She accepted a cheating husband, and got into politics on her husband’s coattails.

Nope, not the kind of feminist I am teaching my daughters to be.

The refusal to accept responsibility for her defeat is not an admiral quality either, in either sex. The truth is she lost because she ran a dirty campaign, and people don’t believe or trust her.

Then there was the endless drama - that would never have been allowed of any man.

I think she set women’s equality back 20 years.

Eileen | 6/12/2008, 12:44 am EST

She does not seem like a presidential material to me.

Any woman would have expected some sexism. She is whining about it as if it came as a shock. That shows a lack of foresight, judgment, common sense, and an inability to assess a situation - not presidential material.

The truth is the media handled her with kid gloves. The most sexist moments came out of her own campaign. The racism in this campaign was far more shocking and outrageous and that’s just the parts the Obama campaign let us see. (There are reports of threats and slurs against his volunteers, even threats on his life.)

Hillary can’t take the heat any woman should have expected. She should have stayed out of the kitchen.

individualism and autonomy | 6/11/2008, 5:59 pm EST

“a) Once sat out a vote on the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, claiming that he would have opposed legislating equal pay for women had he voted. Instead of equal pay, McCain said, women need “education and training

b) Has pledged to overturn Roe v. Wade

Legislating employee salaries by sex is no different than by race as affirmative action. Both are immoral. The individual’s skill alone should dictate wage, and not some government mandated quota. The intentions are good, but in practice we have already seen the harm it causes.

Also, Roe v. Wade should be overturned. Our 10th amendment makes it quite clear that our federal government has no say in this and cannot tell people what laws they must abide by on this subject. I am pro abortion(pro life and pro choice are bullsh!t terms used by people who want to obscure the real issue) because I believe potential human life(measured by the creatures mind) is not valuable, only existing human life is. Yet, none of that means I can legally or morally tell other people what laws they should have for themselves. To avoid total anarchy we have such laws be for each state to decide. Just because that law is in my favor now, I see no moral or legal reason it shouldn’t be overturned.

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

c | 6/11/2008, 5:34 pm EST

I find it hard to consider Hillary Clinton a feminist icon when they only way she got to where she did was through being married to a president

c | 6/11/2008, 5:31 pm EST

One question always lingered in my head about Hillary. Would she be where she is if her name was Hillary Rodham instead of Hillary Rodham Clinton. Because it seems a little hard to call someone a champion of feminism if the only way she got where she did is by having a successful husband.

zeke | 6/11/2008, 3:34 pm EST

All of these Clinton supporters professing that they will vote McCain only reinforce what was obvious to me from the start: there was so little difference between Clinton and McCain to begin with, which is why it is so easy for them to support him. Big deal. If the difference between winning and losing hinges on these morons, this country is in a lot worse shape than anyone thought.

invisible | 6/11/2008, 12:56 pm EST

these theories are not totally logic.

seaweeds | 6/11/2008, 12:27 pm EST

I don’t think all the theories of this article are true ! Americans are not sheep ! remember that !

Anonymous | 6/11/2008, 11:33 am EST

Jed Clampett

The man would be insane to be running as an antiestablishment candidate in a time of need for change and paradigm shift, then turn around and select the one opponent who had proven herself to be of the establishment and happy with the status quo and the dirty politics employed in our political arena.
It would be very sad to see him put her in a position where she could become president and overturn all he stands for just because the media pressures him into it.

I hope his first act in power is to investigate the collusio between the republican party and it’s propaganda branch Faux News. Would be awesome to see Murdoch in the orange outfits they wear in gitmo.

njboss | 6/11/2008, 10:39 am EST

Excellent piece Matt…people who cry “sexism” really just don’t get it all - it has nothing to do with sexism - it has to do with not wanting Bill in the White house free to raom around in his pj’s for the next 4 years…it has to do with being very willing to vote for a woman - just not Hillary…too wrong for too long on just about everything, not the least of which was the Iraq War…”sexism” criers are about as out of touch as Republicans if they think that’s what this is all about…

Susan | 6/11/2008, 10:08 am EST

I think it is most telling that Hillary only started doing well AFTER the Republican contest was over and Rush Limbaugh, Joe Scarborough, Scaife, and company started supporting her. 7% of her voters in Indiana said they would not vote for her in the general if she won the nomination. That means that her margin of victory was comprised of people who had no interest in electing her in the general. Kind of telling isn’t it?

Chuck | 6/11/2008, 10:01 am EST

Narcissism disguised as feminism describes the last two months of the primary. I don’t know why women think that one of the most divisive individuals in the history of politics was their best chance at a female president.

DirtyDennis | 6/11/2008, 9:54 am EST

Well done Dave.

Add to that Supreme Court nominations and legislation vetoes.

Anyone but a Con.

Laura | 6/11/2008, 2:06 am EST

Mark these words:

The “Obama camp is sexist, so I’m voting for McCain” campaign has Karl Rove’s fingerprints all over it.

Omar Husain | 6/10/2008, 11:39 pm EST

Matt “Tabbibi”? Sounds Middle Eastern, must be a terrorist! Good job Ariel, you doofus.

Anonymous | 6/10/2008, 11:39 pm EST

Matt “Tabbibi”? Sounds Middle Eastern, must be a terrorist! Good job Ariel, you doofus.

ariel | 6/10/2008, 9:31 pm EST

wow. i usually do not read rolling stone for the political analysis as it is typically a bit skewed, and boy did matt tabbibi (sp?) make a lot of very bizarre and knee-jerk points in this one. “hillary clinton is electing john mccain president”.. huh?? she “turned barack obama into a sexist” (double huh). the subtext of his article though (although he makes a very conscious attempt to seem unbiased) is the very reason why women need equal representation in government.
maybe next time have a woman write about sexism rolling stone ;D

i think i will go back to msnbc. lord.

Anonymous | 6/10/2008, 9:31 pm EST

wow. i usually do not read rolling stone for the political analysis as it is typically a bit skewed, and boy did matt tabbibi (sp?) make a lot of very bizarre and knee-jerk points in this one. “hillary clinton is electing john mccain president”.. huh?? she “turned barack obama into a sexist” (double huh). the subtext of his article though (although he makes a very conscious attempt to seem unbiased) is the very reason why women need equal representation in government.
maybe next time have a woman write about sexism rolling stone ;D

i think i will go back to msnbc. lord.

Dave | 6/10/2008, 9:00 pm EST

Picture this scenario. And Obama fans, pretend your candidate had lost and let’s do the same. You’re all mad that your idol, your hero, who was going to fight for YOU and defend YOU (and had almost the same positions as their opponent, but that’s neither here nor there) didn’t win. Your (political) life is in the dumps. Your dreams are shattered. Nothing has meaning or relevance anymore.

And then McCain sees you. He smiles to you. He FEELS your PAIN. He praises your candidate as having “fought for America” or somesuch nonsense. He promises he will do the same, and fight for YOU, just as Hillary/Obama/Kucinich/Edwards /Stephen Colbert/some guy on TV did. Of course, this brightens you up. Your life turns around. McCain understands, MCCAIN knows how you feel. Unlike those. . . dastardly fellow Democrats, the BASTARDS. (And I DO mean -RATS

So you vote for him. Yeah, he’s a conservative and you’re not, but at least he’s not that [FILL IN THE BLANK] creep. And he wins–all thanks to you.

Meanwhile, starting January 20th, the war escalates. Gas prices go past $5.

As a result, Exxon gets a tax cut.

McCain: “Don’t blame me! YOU VOTED FOR THIS, YOU DID!! MWA HA HA HA HA!!!!”

Man. That campaign slogan ROCKS. “Vote McCain! Blow off STEAM!!!” For Chrissakes, Obama fans, think of how YOU’D feel. And for CHRISSAKES, Clinton fans, calm down. Obama has the SAME POLICY POSITIONS AS CLINTON. It’s not like you’re voting for Ralph Nader, here.

Oh, WAIT a second. . .

Everyone, stop the fussin’ and the fightin’. Vote your party. Not the other one.

Dave | 6/10/2008, 8:56 pm EST

Call me divisive. I get that a lot.

But Hillary Clinton fanatics below like “I will not vote for Obama but switch to McCain” Agnes, and “If Obama doesn’t choose Hillary as his running mate, I and many Democrats will not vote for him” Simple, are CRAZY WEIRDO INSANE CRAZY. And same goes for you Obama folks that said the same about Hillary.

Why? Why, Agnes and Simple? WHY WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE A REPUBLICAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE FOR FOUR YEARS INSTEAD OF A DEMOCRAT?? Do you LIKE the war in Iraq? Would you RATHER global warming not be fought? Are you THAT bitter (or, had Hillary won, would Obama folks have been)?????

This is beyond ridiculous. No, this is beyond idiocy. This is self-mutilation at its most unintentionally hilarious.

Here, picture this scenario. Whoops, out of room. New comment.

Simple | 6/10/2008, 8:19 pm EST

If Obama doesn’t choose Hillary as his running mate I and many Democrats will not vote for him.

Simple | 6/10/2008, 8:10 pm EST

If Obama doesn’t choose Hillary as his running mate, I and many Democrats will not vote for him.

Agnes | 6/10/2008, 6:12 pm EST

If the situation would have been reversed and Hillary won the nomination, would you imagine Michelle and Barack campaigning for Hillary? Now Hillary is being treated unfairly again by threatening to blame her if Obama lose to McCain. Don’t blame Hillary, blame me because I will not vote for Obama but switch to McCain.

Jennifer | 6/10/2008, 4:09 pm EST

Really interesting. I was surprised at his take for quite a while–until he came to the part where he blamed Hillary for stirring up her supporters with allegations of sexism about Obama. What evidence does he have for that, apart from some quotes from supporters, principally maunderings of Gerry Ferraro. The principal malefactors were, of course, in the media, not in the Obama campaign. And laying it on Hillary herself is like accusing Obama himself of fomenting all the racist froth stemming from the media’s great delight and lengthy coverage of Jeremiah Wright.

Do you think the media would have erupted in wrath at Obama for not getting out of the way if Hillary had won Iowa and roles had been reversed? NO WAY.

Jennifer | 6/10/2008, 4:05 pm EST

\Re Tabibbi on Hilary– I was surprised at his take for quite a while–until he came to the part where he blamed Hillary for stirring up her supporters with allegations of sexism about Obama. What evidence does he have for that, apart from some quotes from supporters, principally maunderings of Gerry Ferraro. The principal misogynist malefactors were, of course, in the media, not in the Obama campaign. And laying it on Hillary herself is like accusing Obama himself of fomenting all the racist froth stemming from the media’s great delight and lengthy coverage of Jeremiah Wright.

Do you think the media would have erupted in wrath at Obama for not getting out of the way if Hillary had won Iowa and ups and downs had been reversed thereafter? NO WAY.

debcoop | 6/10/2008, 2:48 pm EST

Matt

Sexism is what Hillary Clinton has been subjected for the last 16 years…and now sexism is what Michelle Obama will be subjected to as well…as they both are the same kind of woman. A strong, no nonsense, take charge kind of woman. Laura bush they are not.

The caricature of Hillary Clinton was created by the right wing ….because Hillary and now Michelle…are an offense to the right wing idea of how women should behave in the world. Women should take orders, not give them…they should be quiet and never raise their voice or make a demand. They should never want power.

So to the right…Hillary was dishonest to their stultifed and repressive idea of womanhood. So all the contradictory notions of of strength and weakness…was created by the right and the MEDIA….yes YOU and your colleagues took this right wing idea and turned the vicious caricature into Conventional Wisdom.

That caricature said Hillary was dishonest,dishonorable,unscrup ulous, unethical, willing to say and do anything to advance only herself and not others….

Now Obama and his campaign did not attack her for 2/3 of 2007. BUT in Mid Sept…he began an assault …rarely from his own mouth…but by press release, conference call and contrivances like making her apologize for Bob Novak’s lies about Obama.

He took this sexist, right wing media caricature and promoted the hell out of it to a more than willing media, after all they created the smear they so eagerly embraced. ..Look at your own accustions in this article based on ill will, ill faith and the bile of your own suspicions…..certainly the speech gave every indication to the contrary of your totally unwarranted suspicions.

So when one uses sexist smears, exploits them to a willing media who of course is totally unwilling to call him on it because of their own complicity….when then that is exploiting sexism.

There are sins of commission and sins of omission. There were both here.

And the fact thay you don’t see it is not because it’s not there, it’s a case of willful blindness.

Obamillary | 6/10/2008, 12:42 pm EST

Guess what?

Politics is a game, a sport, like our own national version of the Olympics. Every 4 years we all get to play. “This one is better…that one is no good…wahhh, my candidate lost…yahh, my candidate won.”

…and in the end, what really changes? All this anger, all this yelling, all this over-analyzing….

Here we are, instead of celebrating the incredible ascension of the first woman and african-american capable of running President, we bitch and argue.

Way to diminish the importance of this moment in our histroy.

You are all children. Grow up!

Elspeth Longhorn | 6/10/2008, 11:05 am EST

The article implies that if Obama loses, it is somehow Hillary Clinton’s fault. But, if a candidate is so dependent upon the behavior of others that he cannot run on his own merits and win, then he doesn’t deserve to be running. If Barack Obama loses, it will be about Barack Obama, not about anyone else.

Alex | 6/10/2008, 2:07 am EST

does anyone else think it’s a bad idea to let registered republicans vote in democratic primaries?

Perhaps this is really both parties trying to subtly let us know that they are really one party…

john | 6/10/2008, 12:50 am EST

Diane you have forgotten that presidency isn’t about individuals. To actively oppose a candidate who shares 99% of Clintons views, your candidate of choice, is the definition of stupidity.

kurt | 6/10/2008, 12:47 am EST

LonghornMama it would be pure stupidity if you are willing to sacrifice the country if Hillary didn’t get a VP nod. The fact that you are a mother should motivate you not to subject them to a John McCain ruled country.

Jerry | 6/10/2008, 12:43 am EST

KMB

How can you say Obama was gutless in his vote when he publicly came out against the war when it was considered career suicide. The people you name who were calling him gutless obviously had an agenda behind their opinions. And the fact that more republicans are for Obama than Hillary has nothing to do with policy. Aside from minor differences in health care, their policies are almost all the same. More republicans are for Obama because of his unique ability to unite people. And your theory of a president not only needing opinion but the ability to get things done is hilarious. With the Dems in almost complete control of the house and senate, I think Obama wouldn’t have to hard a time getting things done.

Jordan | 6/9/2008, 11:12 pm EST

Wow. Some of you people need to get over this. Barack Obama won the damn nomination. They both had the same rules to go by and only at the end did Senator Clinton try to change them. It was said in the beginning that if Florida and Michigan moved up their primary they would be stripped of their delegates. ALL OF THEM. Barack was the one that compromised by giving Clinton a plum deal when in Michigan he wasn’t even on the ballot. But the larger point is this insane logic of how the nomination was taken away by the sexist media and men. Come on people this is the Clintons we are talking about. I could write an exhaustive college thesis paper about the way Hillary ran her campaign and negative tactics she used. That’s not the point. What turned millions of Americans off from her was the sense of entitlement she portrayed through most of it. Like it was owed to her. That made a lot of people sick. We got Clinton fatigue. Now I was impressed by her tenacity and will to keep going and there were some positive aspects to her campaign. But the Clinton supporters just need to let this anger go. What’s the point? We don’t get anywhere by this he said she said and then the media said. Then it really baffles me when some of Clinton supporters say they will vote for McCain. Really? A man that opposed equal pay for women, wants to appoint conservative judges that will try to overturn Roe v. Wade, and wants to extend tax cuts for the rich. Come on Clinton supporters. We Obama supporters are not the enemy. We just want our country back.

celticfenian | 6/9/2008, 10:00 pm EST

um,…mrs mccain, i mean kmb8, save me your mystical argument regarding florida and michigan. this rewriting the rules bullsh*t is getting old. clinton and obama both pledged to play by the rules before these two primaries. the clinton ‘victories’ in fla and michigan are myths. local news and the sun sentinel were awash with stories and editorials explaining the primary disenfranchisement due to these states moving up their dates. those who were aware of these everpresent stories had no reason to show up at the polls. to suggest or imply otherwise is disingenuous… their is no honor among those who would claim such a victory, for it is hollow and deceitful.

DirtyDennis | 6/9/2008, 8:48 pm EST

Actually, she’s not ‘out’ until the DNC names a candidate.

A friend in England posed an interesting observation to me. He opined that about national health care would seem to subsidize smoking and drinking, and asks, “Is national healthcare an enabler of bad habits,” adding, “Don’t we want it that way?”

He concludes with, “I find myself on the side of the anti-democrats. Democracy seems like a limp tool for dealing with planet problems. I just don’t see it working, but I don’t trust the elites to do any better and anarchy is a sure loser. Give me a school of philosopher kings but only for awhile. We will vote them off one by one with televised celebrity democracy. ‘Gore Vidal got 87,439,492 votes Tuesday night, not enough keep him in the group. Will Henry Kissinger make the cut this week?’ God, or whoever, help us.”

Gore Vidal gets the boot? We’re screwed.

TMac | 6/9/2008, 8:03 pm EST

KMB,
I may be need to read more to be as informed as you are about how Hillary Clinton needs to bottle her farts so I can use the delicious aroma as perfume, but last I checked (though I did get this information from the Clinton-bashing media) she is out of this campaign unless BO taps her to be VP. All your BO bashing just adds further weight to what Matt was arguing in the article. Just sayin’.

Alex | 6/9/2008, 7:56 pm EST

I can’t imagine that either candidate thinks that things are “dandy”. But there is only one candidate who is setting deadlines for the removal of U.S. troops. Which will only make things worse.

Here is an example, during the L.A. riots, can you imagine if the police had said “boy we just can’t handle this anymore and we need to get out, and we’re going to leave in 6 days. Do you think that the looting would stop after those 6 days were up, or do you think the looting would stop until the 6 days was up, at which point it would really begin?

But I think my point is that I don’t think that Obama will do anything differently than Mccain when it comes to the situation in Iraq. Though given Obama’s lack of experience with the military I would guess the difference Obama would make would probably be in making more mistakes.

But the whole mantra of the Obama campaign “change” is pure political B.S. It isn’t a change it is a continuation of the smooth talking politics we have experienced for the past 8-250 years.

The real “issue” in this coming election will not be the war, but which of the candidates can convey the best sense of “you know me”. You can better beleive that both will say the things that they think will get them elected. But which one do you think will actually do the things that will help you?

I don’t know what Obama’s agenda is thus far, except to get elected. Oh, and the things that are coming out about obama, his affiliations, are making me suspicious that he has alternative agendas he isn’t informing us about.

As for the “dream ticket” idea. I was very excited about the idea of a clinton-obama ticket. It would have been a landslide for the dems if they had nominated Clinton with a Obama V.P. Hillary with her work ethic and know how, and obama with his inspirational ideas. It would have given obama the ability to get some of these ideas done and at the same time gave Obama valuable experience for a future presidency. Unfortunatly, ego prevail. and so will the republicans in Nov.

DirtyDennis | 6/9/2008, 7:06 pm EST

KMB,

That’s some good stuff. Where were you all Spring? I especially like your FL/MI discourse. Not exactly the way the MSM (RS?) portrayed it.

Politics is all about egos, from the ground up. We don’t have to wax about the egos of those on top; what’s extraordinary, however, is the egos of those on the bottom (RS?).

The ‘issue’ is a Dem in the OO (Oval Office) but egos dictate, “Yes, but it has to be MY Dem,” as if there’s some distinction. They construct mountains out of molehills and torrents out of rivulets in an attempt to ‘prove’ their position.

When all they prove is it’s, “ME!! ME!! ME!!.”

It is, of course, the mantra of the minority. If you have to define politics from a personal perspective, you’ve already begun the descent into irrelevance.

Alex,

You’r e on point. This election is NOT ‘about’ the war. We’re up to our arses in defecation. We can’t get out quickly OR easily. What we want is someone who doesn’t think everything is dandy; who imagines we’re on some knightly crusade for humanity.

Would that we could combine the best from Obama and the best from Clinton, now THERE would be someone to vote for.

Alex | 6/9/2008, 6:14 pm EST

Pardon my lack of knowledge about BHO and him not being in the senate, from the way they talked about hillary voting for the measure you’d think he’d have voted against it. That still doesn’t change the fact that he didn’t convice too many people with his anti-war speech.

It also doesn’t change the fact that he is initating rove’s masterful campign tactic, only in reverse. We needed a dem nominee who could get things done instead of another charming politician, in the same light as GWB “you have to vote for me cause of this war”.

kmb08 | 6/9/2008, 6:02 pm EST

An informed voter not only votes on issues…they also vote for the person they actually believe can implement the policy issues. BO reminds me of Deval Patrick, another great speaker, who has been an ineffective Gov. of Mass. Once in Wash., speeches don’t matter..it’s about nuts & bolts of policy, and Hillary stood head and shoulders above BO.

She works harder than any candidate I have ever seen in my life, bar none. She has unparalleled policy knowledge…BO can only hope to acquire one day. Hillary has compassion/passion, tenacity to see a goal to fruition. Hillary had more military leaders backing her. Hillary knew an excellent economic team to assemble, starting with Bob Rubin. Hillary was talking issues long before BO knew the campaign was about issues. Hillary was for universal healthcare back when it wasn’t the “cool” thing to say. Rarely does transformational change such as this happen the first try. Hillary could have drawn on her mistakes/successes from the past to up the odds of achieving such a goal this time.

Hillary was the only candidate who put forth a goal of eradicating breast cancer, and bringing more attention to womens’ and childrens’ health care issues that have been marginalized for far too long. Who better to focus on healthcare than a loving mother, confronting these issues from a woman’s perspective.

A colleague in the Il State Senate said BO earned the rep of “gutless” because he always seemed to be “gone” when time to make a tough vote. US Sen. Ted Stevens said BO “folded like a cheap suit” when time to take a stand, so to those asking what the difference between the two is…well, guts for one, compassion for two, policy knowledge for three, integrity for four, passion for five, knowing how to work Wash. for six, and Hillary just simply works her ever loving heart out.

To the one who mentioned the press bringing up Rev. Wright and not being easy on BO…HELL, THEY DIDN’T AIR THE VIDEO FOR THE FIRST YEAR OF THE CAMPAIGN!!!

To those who think the Republicans helped Hillary win some of the primaries…go to Factcheck.org and you’ll see that the Republicans actually voted for BO MORE than for Hillary.

Geeeezzzzz…I’m tired now.

kmb08 | 6/9/2008, 5:44 pm EST

For the poster who stated Obama voted against the war. You might need to read more. Obama earned the reputation of “gutless” while in the Illinois Senate for a reason….

Obama gave an anti-war “speech” at an anti-war rally. It took no guts. He wasn’t in the Senate at the time, so didn’t vote!!!!

Fast forward to MTP with T. Russert after BO was in the Senate. He stated he didn’t know how he would have voted had he been in the Senate at the time. He also, at one point, praised Pres. Bush for his handling of the war. He also praised Kerry & Rockefellow’s votes, both of which were FOR the war resolution.

As to Sen. Hillary Clinton…she did vote for the resolution, but anybody who cared to read the archived Senatorial document she wrote to Pres. Bush before her vote would have found she emphatically called for inspectors to be able to do their job, for the US NOT to go it alone, and for war to be a LAST RESORT.

kmb08 | 6/9/2008, 5:36 pm EST

Obama wants his surrogates to stealthily employ “racism” into the election, while he is “above it all”. Hypocrite.

Obama wants Hillary to convince all of us to support him and become sycophantic like the rest of the lemmings, while he continues his self-aggrandizing rhetorical preacher-like rallying cry to the masses.

Obama loves the big rallies…he loves to hear himself say the “urgency of now”..”turn the page”, “change”, “hope”…the crowd goes crazzzzzzzzy! One voter I spoke to said, “I don’t know what he said, but it was amazing!!” Great..

Read an interesting article recently regarding the differing styles of the candidates with regard to working the people lines. Hillary, it stated, is people friendly, chats, listens, shakes many hands, signs many autographs, while Obama otoh, is more of a finger pincher, doesn’t like the hand shaking thing, rarely gives autographs, and basically tries to hurry through the lines….

If only he could always just give huge rally speeches…this way, he wouldn’t have to be bothered by those pesky voters….

arugula..anyone? !?! sweetie, typical white person, uh, uh, uh..where’s my teleprompter.

kmb08 | 6/9/2008, 5:25 pm EST

With regard to FL/MI…many people state, “I wonder how many people would have turned out if they had known their votes would count.” I’ve spoken to numerous Floridians, and they were told not to worry, the rules would not actually affect their “votes”, and they would count. You see..the rules only state the delegates won’t be seated…nothing about disenfranchising the voters. Furthermore, FOUR TIMES AS MANY VOTERS TURNED OUT AS IN 2004, SO THE PREMISE THAT MORE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TURNED OUT IS LUDICROUS!!!! I am so sick and tired of people being uninformed!!

kmb08 | 6/9/2008, 5:17 pm EST

Let’s preface this by saying: Rolling Stone Endorsed Obama!

Let’s see…Obama wants his surrogates to do the dirty work, e.g. distributing memos to the press to stir things up, while he pretends to be “above all the dirty politics”. Obama never even apologized to Hillary personally after Father Pfleger roused the church crowd with his demoralizing comments.

As to MI….Obama saw he was 20% behind in the polls, and demanded his name be off the ballot. The party leaders replaced his name, whereby, he threatened to sue, so the party leaders did remove his name. He urged voters to vote “uncommitted” if they wanted to vote for him. They did so, as uncommitted had the highest percentage EVER for an uncommitted choice. Of course, uncommitted also included Richardson & Edwards. Kucinich, Dodd, Gravel, & Clinton left their names on.

FL…Obama was given permission to run a national ad for two weeks, which should not have been allowed. He should have had to run state specific ads. He still lost!

Even after private donations were available for a revote, Obama balked. What a frightened kitten he is…..

No wonder most Floridians and Michigan residents blame Obama for not allowing their votes to count, and for blocking a revote.

The DNC only levied the said penalty because they had no idea all 50 states would actually come into play in this election. They regretted their mistake, but didn’t know how to rectify it. They should never affect the voters when they want to punish the party leaders. The rules never stated the votes wouldn’t count, only that the delegates would not be seated.

NH moved their election forward, but received a waiver rather than a penalty. Why were the two states most important to Hillary the only two penalized?!?!hmmmmm…….

Point remains…Obama only wins when people aren’t allowed to vote, e.g., caucuses, & FL/MI. What an illegitimate nominee!!!

Alex | 6/9/2008, 2:12 pm EST

The real red herring is the war. It doesn’t matter who you elect as president in the fall we won’t be pulling out of Iraq. Just because the politician is different doesn’t mean that the situation in Iraq will be. Obama, should he get elected, will be fully debriefed of what is really going on there and will have to make decisions then, based on what he doesn’t know now. Now let’s just imagine that BHO does do what he says he’s going to do, pull the troops out in 16 months. Do you think that forces in Iraq, like muqtada al sadr will not have seen BHO’s election as a signal that they have 16 months to solidify their forces? For goodness sakes if we wanted to give the world’s 14th largest oil producing country and the it’s 4th largest oil reserves to Iran, why didn’t we get them to do the fighting and dying? If BHO pulls out the troops, we will be back, only we’ll be back with a military service that is demoralized and which doesn’t care for it’s Commander in Chief.

I Voted for Nader in 2000 because I wanted him to get 4% of the vote so you could hear about some real issues in 2004. But I suppose I really did just throw my vote away. I voted for Kerry in 2004, yet I think now more than ever I like GWB. See the problem with GWB wasn’t that he tricked the idiots of america to go to war in Iraw, but that he used the war in Iraw to get elected. Now tell me, is BHO not doing the EXACT thing in this election. Is he not using the war in Iraq and his vote against it (which by the way shows how ineffective BHO is going to be as president (I.E. he was only 1 of 23 senators who voted against it. what he couldn’t convice anyone else with his smooth talking?) to get himself elected?

Don Draper | 6/9/2008, 2:01 pm EST

Matt, great article and analysis, but I take exception with one issue you ascribe to McCain:

“Opposed efforts to permit women to fly combat missions in the military. His reasoning: “The purpose of the military is first to defend the nation’s vital security interests throughout the globe, and only second to ensure equality.”

I agree with McCain here - the purpose of the military IS first to defend the nation’s security. It certainly isn’t to ensure equality if lives are at stake. We’ve already seen this issue backfiring in attempts to bring equality into police and fire departments. I think the concern of most people is having someone capable of doing the job (and thus being treated and paid fairly for doing so), not having politicians step in to ensure equality at the expense hof having the right person at the right time.

TMac | 6/9/2008, 2:00 pm EST

I think some of the people that posted angry pro-Clinton replies to THIS article are missing the gene of their DNA that encodes the ability to understand irony.

MariaG | 6/9/2008, 1:49 pm EST

Hillary’s concession speech on Saturday proved where she stands on supporting Obama. No other candidate in history has given a concession speech like that one…

So, Obama supporters think they need Hillary to hold his hand during the rest of the campagne ’cause he can’t do it himself??? LOL

Nightowl | 6/9/2008, 1:08 pm EST

I’m curious what the Clintonistas think she would give them that Obama won’t. I can name off quite a few things McCain will take away from them but not what Obama would. If you are willing ot vote for someone whose policies are completely different hten the candidate you were originally going to vote for, then you don’t care about policy, you care only about the person. so who is really being sexist?

sooz | 6/9/2008, 12:40 pm EST

Perception in this primary race was all about which candidate you were rooting for. Mr. Taibbi suggests that painting Mr. Obama as sexist in some way is patently ridiculous. I would suggest that painting the Clintons as racist is equally as ridiculous and that Mr. Obama’s “taking the high road” was as blatant a political tactic as taking the low. The calls for her to quit were based in large part, I believe, on the media wanting to determine the outcome of this race (as it always does but never so blatantly obvious in an election year as this one) and everyone wanting an easy choice, when for many of us, especially female progressives, it was anything but. That’s why I believe both sides needed to paint their opponent so stridently. I’m hoping there will be healing enough that what Hillary does won’t matter now. I’m sad and I feel beaten but only part of that sentiment is reserved for Hillary. There is a great deal she needs to answer for in terms of her Iraq vote (her Achilles’ heel in this for sure, I believe) and how she ran her campaign, most specifically by having Mark Penn and Terry McAulliffe head it! Neither of these guys has my interest as a woman or working stiff laborer at heart. But, like Ferraro, she represented a response to centuries of being asked to wait our turn. You can’t blame any of us for clinging to that. The media, especially the
“progressive” talking heads, never show any humility. I just hope Mr. Taibbi and all the rest of the media who held her to a higher standard from the beginning can look back at this election and learn from it as I hope we all will.

Anonymous | 6/9/2008, 12:31 pm EST

Jed Clampett

At first, I thought Hillary would be our first female president… she might still be.
I was somewhat excited at the prospect of having a different mindset from all the old ‘Good Ole Boy’ mentality that seems to permeate politics, business, defense, education… etc.
I always figured she would bring some really welcome change and a sense of ‘law enforcement’ to the office, rather than the obfuscation and outright misleading we have seen of late.

As the campaigns took off, I saw a field of veterans with excellent qualifications, and her… a party activist who had helped her husband and her party to the leadership of the country and now held a seat as senator for NY. They did rather well in the presidential role even if some things were done that actually set us back alot… NAFTA, allowing jobs to be shipped overseas, renting out the lincoln bedroom to chinese business interests(I know this is exagerated, but the result was $elling off alot of our industry to china and it’s destitute labor force)… so, as any administration does, it had it’s good points and it’s bad points, in my opinion, more good than bad… a projected budget surplus along with the improvements in social programs were nice, waffling on Kyoto was not.

But within the field was a young unknown that spoke in a kennedieske style and exuded an air of confidence that typically only comes from innate leaders.
As the campaigns progressed the young newcomer gathered more and more momentum as the ‘experienced’, old school crowd fell by the wayside.
I also saw, unfortunatly, Sen Clintons true face. That of a politician willing to say or do anything to win. Ready to follow the advice of pollsters regardless of how it will affect her personal character, particularly in an atypical campaign against a remarkable opponent.
The Ferraro comment for me was the clincher… to me, it said she is no different than the oligarchs that control us now and are putting the squeeze on our wallets? Seeing the media do a complete about face on her comment about disparity of coverage solidified my perception that the ‘5% in control of 85% of the wealth’ supported her as well. Particularly telling was that Fox ‘News’ was actually actively compelling it’s republican viewers to vote for her, as she would be better for the establishment should McCain lose.
Now things get really serious. Those with the power want this war. In fact, they wish to escalate it and perhaps bring in some other major players… China seems to have been sidetracked, Russia is beating the drums and seems to be getting on board.
Bush recently went to his masters in Soudi to plan the next bit of strategy. Increase the price of oil, and thereby the price of gasoline so they can do something in November to help McCain win the election. You see, McCain would perpetuate and escalate the war, and war is profitable to those that control the food supply, education, production and to some extent, even consumption.

To me Sen. Obama won by being the more honest and coherent of the candidates. His ability to speak from a good place won this for him. I hope he can channel good actions from that place as well. Lord knows america needs it. One very effective act would be to announce the subsidising of hydrogen boost systems for vehicles in the US… the effect would be to bring down the price for oil futures to a more realistic level as well as improve efficiency and reduce pollution.

FOUR MORE YEARS OF RGHT WINGER | 6/9/2008, 11:44 am EST

WELL PEOPLE YOU GOT PLAYED MCCAIN IS GOING TO DEMOLISH OBAMA! WHO ONLY WON RED STATES THAT WILL GO MCCAIN THIS FALL!

HILLARY WAS OUR ONLY CHANCE, WINNING THE BLUE AND SWING STATES!

PLEASE FOR THE GRACE OF GOD SLAM SHUT YOUR PIE HOLES NEXT ELECTION CYCLE UNLESS YOU HAVE A CLUE!

FOUR MORE YEARS OF RGHT WINGER | 6/9/2008, 11:44 am EST

WELL PEOPLE YOU GOT PLAYED MCCAIN IS GOING TO DEMOLISH OBAMA! WHO ONLY WON RED STATES THAT WILL GO MCCAIN THIS FALL!

HILLARY WAS OUR ONLY CHANCE, WINNING THE BLUE AND SWING STATES!

PLEASE FOR THE GRACE OF GOD SLAM SHUT YOUR PIE HOLES NEXT ELECTION CYCLE UNLESS YOU HAVE A CLUE!

FOUR MORE YEARS OF RGHT WINGER | 6/9/2008, 11:44 am EST

WELL PEOPLE YOU GOT PLAYED MCCAIN IS GOING TO DEMOLISH OBAMA! WHO ONLY WON RED STATES THAT WILL GO MCCAIN THIS FALL!

HILLARY WAS OUR ONLY CHANCE, WINNING THE BLUE AND SWING STATES!

PLEASE FOR THE GRACE OF GOD SLAM SHUT YOUR PIE HOLES NEXT ELECTION CYCLE UNLESS YOU HAVE A CLUE!

FOUR MORE YEARS OF RGHT WINGER | 6/9/2008, 11:44 am EST

WELL PEOPLE YOU GOT PLAYED MCCAIN IS GOING TO DEMOLISH OBAMA! WHO ONLY WON RED STATES THAT WILL GO MCCAIN THIS FALL!

HILLARY WAS OUR ONLY CHANCE, WINNING THE BLUE AND SWING STATES!

PLEASE FOR THE GRACE OF GOD SLAM SHUT YOUR PIE HOLES NEXT ELECTION CYCLE UNLESS YOU HAVE A CLUE!

FOUR MORE YEARS OF RGHT WINGER | 6/9/2008, 11:44 am EST

WELL PEOPLE YOU GOT PLAYED MCCAIN IS GOING TO DEMOLISH OBAMA! WHO ONLY WON RED STATES THAT WILL GO MCCAIN THIS FALL!

HILLARY WAS OUR ONLY CHANCE, WINNING THE BLUE AND SWING STATES!

PLEASE FOR THE GRACE OF GOD SLAM SHUT YOUR PIE HOLES NEXT ELECTION CYCLE UNLESS YOU HAVE A CLUE!

FOUR MORE YEARS OF RGHT WINGER | 6/9/2008, 11:44 am EST

WELL PEOPLE YOU GOT PLAYED MCCAIN IS GOING TO DEMOLISH OBAMA! WHO ONLY WON RED STATES THAT WILL GO MCCAIN THIS FALL!

HILLARY WAS OUR ONLY CHANCE, WINNING THE BLUE AND SWING STATES!

PLEASE FOR THE GRACE OF GOD SLAM SHUT YOUR PIE HOLES NEXT ELECTION CYCLE UNLESS YOU HAVE A CLUE!

FOUR MORE YEARS OF RGHT WINGER | 6/9/2008, 11:44 am EST

WELL PEOPLE YOU GOT PLAYED MCCAIN IS GOING TO DEMOLISH OBAMA! WHO ONLY WON RED STATES THAT WILL GO MCCAIN THIS FALL!

HILLARY WAS OUR ONLY CHANCE, WINNING THE BLUE AND SWING STATES!

PLEASE FOR THE GRACE OF GOD SLAM SHUT YOUR PIE HOLES NEXT ELECTION CYCLE UNLESS YOU HAVE A CLUE!

FOUR MORE YEARS OF RGHT WINGER | 6/9/2008, 11:44 am EST

WELL PEOPLE YOU GOT PLAYED MCCAIN IS GOING TO DEMOLISH OBAMA! WHO ONLY WON RED STATES THAT WILL GO MCCAIN THIS FALL!

HILLARY WAS OUR ONLY CHANCE, WINNING THE BLUE AND SWING STATES!

PLEASE FOR THE GRACE OF GOD SLAM SHUT YOUR PIE HOLES NEXT ELECTION CYCLE UNLESS YOU HAVE A CLUE!

FOUR MORE YEARS OF RGHT WINGER | 6/9/2008, 11:44 am EST

WELL PEOPLE YOU GOT PLAYED MCCAIN IS GOING TO DEMOLISH OBAMA! WHO ONLY WON RED STATES THAT WILL GO MCCAIN THIS FALL!

HILLARY WAS OUR ONLY CHANCE, WINNING THE BLUE AND SWING STATES!

PLEASE FOR THE GRACE OF GOD SLAM SHUT YOUR PIE HOLES NEXT ELECTION CYCLE UNLESS YOU HAVE A CLUE!

Jimbo | 6/9/2008, 11:23 am EST

A perfectly flawed analysis. I suspect it was done simply to be provocative. The major flaw is to think ANYWONE would support Hillary in the Democratic party if it was seen that she sabotaged this election for the Democrats.
And it will be seen as sabotage if either Hillary or Bill give anything less than wholehearted support for Obama.
Think before you spout nonsense.

Ivy | 6/9/2008, 10:41 am EST

I wanted to thank you for writing this article. Just when I thought the campaign couldn’t get any more surreal, the press became awash this week in articles praising the campaign Hillary fought (?!), for the “role model” for younger women she was, and for putting cracks in the glass ceiling (I suppose it’s all in how you look at it), and at the same time giving over-coverage to the hateful and divisive reactions of Clintonites. Your article was a small breath of sanity.

I believe that there are some specific qualities many people are hoping for in our next president, like fiscal responsibility and bringing some measure of decorum and pride back to the presidency. Hillary expected her gender to make up for the fact that she demonstrated she is unable to bring these qualities to the office. As a 54 year old feminist, I never really viewed Hillary as a feminist. A “Good Ol’ Girl”, she definitely is, but that’s not necessarily the same thing as a feminist. Hillary is NOT a feminist and any glass ceiling she hit she took from other women who have been oppressed and then lowered it herself so she would hit it. My greatest fear, watching the insanity of it all this primary season, as Hillary and Geraldine were changing the definition of feminism, was the damage they would do to the future of women in politics. There are and have been some female politicians who would have made, and may yet make, excellent presidents. Let’s hope the next time a woman decides to run, it is one worthy of the office. In fact, wouldn’t it be nice for a change to have several worthy candidates, regardless of defining characteristics like race or gender, to actually choose from? Now that would be surreal.

Lucy | 6/9/2008, 9:29 am EST

Just because someone believes the media unfairly depicts Senator Clinton does not make them unobjective or divisive. I went for Senator Obama, but I could not help noticing, painfully, that the media continues to espouse old-fashioned views of men and women. Politics itself relies on sketchy calculations. All candidates seem to combine the personal with the political. Without both elements–and you need both motivation and a following–how could someone deal with the campaign trail and all the yucky things that happen on it? Because Bush won two terms, it appears that any Democrat has a challenge to beat McCain. There’s a huge conservative electoral base. We have no way to know how someone who was not in office would have voted. When someone votes “present” instead of “yes” or “no,” similar mystique ensues. All candidates have something up with them, and 2012 is too far away for guesses. The time to focus on is now. A big battle is for centrist votes. Many Democrats had trouble picking between the two senators, and will be pleased to support Senator Obama and help this country.

Bourdain | 6/9/2008, 6:40 am EST

Matt Taibbi is the best American political writer alive… and has been for the last few years. That said, his value takes a big dip when it comes to prognostication. I distinctly remember listening to a radio show that Taibbi appeared on last August, when he voiced his ultra-cynical view that “Thompson beats all of ‘em.” I bring this up only to put Taibbi’s view that Hillary and her supporters sitting this thing out will cost Barack Obama the election in perspective. Sure, all 18 million of them staying home would put John McCain in the White House. But Hillary doesn’t, as she says, “have 18 million voters.” She got 18 million votes. There’s a difference. It’s clear from most polling that roughly one out of every five Hillary voters have a problem with Obama. That’s it. Personally, I think that Obama can cut that number in half (from 3.8 to about 2 million) by November. But even if he can’t, so what? Knock yourselves out, Clintonistas. Vote for McCain, or better yet, write in Hillary’s name on the ballot. Just the image of you people doing that makes me laugh my ass off. We’ll win it without you.

Kalli | 6/9/2008, 2:54 am EST

This woman, Hillary can never do anything right in the eyes of the BO fans. Is BO’s campaign that jumped on racism attacks at every chance they got, and now Hillary is charged to unite the party. So what should BO do? To stay above the fray, let others do his work and he sits pretty? Anyway, he has little chance of being a president because his support base (young people, Africa-Americans, and urban whites)has peaked. There are nothing left for him. Hispanics would go for McCain, Asian-Americans would go for McCain, and the Republican base would go for McCain. About one quarter of 18 million people would go for McCain. The majority of it will stay at home. So the maths do not add up for BO in Nov.

Ryan | 6/9/2008, 1:32 am EST

Thank you, David.

Juan | 6/9/2008, 1:16 am EST

Kmb08 and Diane,
Please explain the policy issues where you feel McCain or a 3rd party better represents you compared to Obama?

Seriously, I don’t understand the anger on this issue among some dems.

My opinion going into this was that 28 years of Clintons and Bushs in the whitehouse was too much…if Hillary then 36 years of two families running the executive branch? No Kings and Queens was step one in the creation of this nation.

Its time to move on folks. Look at the policies of McCain and Obama and make up you mind, you have 5 months!

Chuck | 6/9/2008, 1:16 am EST

We are still a long way from the day where race and gender don’t play a role in political campaigns and the positive value coming out of this one was that we were reminded of that on a daily basis. We will mature as a country and as a polity when we can admit that and allow that they count, even if we don’t like to believe that. The “morning in America” lie propagated by religious radicals and neo-cons in the 1980s would have had us believe that all that commotion during the Civil Rights era took care of all that and we can move on. Any further claims of racism and sexism would just be red herrings and now blacks, browns, women, etc. who don’t get hired or elected is just the triumph of meritocracy and “oh, look at that; white men just happen to be superior after all!” Hopefully, that talk can teke a rest and we can get on with the unfinished task the civil rights movement started but could not finish.

slag | 6/9/2008, 1:13 am EST

“If Hillary sits out the general election season, or campaigns halfheartedly for Obama, and McCain wins, she becomes the automatic frontrunner for the Democratic ticket in 2012.”

Are you insane?

Adrian Suharto | 6/9/2008, 1:00 am EST

So Many assumptions, I say very dangerous to read through this article.
You missed out a lot of facts, and obviously you painted Obama as a can-do-nothing-wrong saint.
If you wanted to fix the gap between supporters, this article failed to do so.

celticfenian | 6/9/2008, 12:58 am EST

michigan - i’d win the popular vote too if my opponent was not on the ballot!

florida - i stayed at work on primary day, because i knew that my vote for obama would not count; whilst much of the geriatric crowd has alot of fun going out to vote regardless (hillary).

haven’t we had enough of this fuzzy math??? it’s not true just because you say it soooo many times. does anyone believe for a second that she’d be arguing this orwellian bullsh*t if the tables were turned? the superdelegates made the right choice, just not your choice.

oh, and yeah the media was really in the tank for obama concealing his associations, weren’t they? it was friggin impossible not to hear the jeremiah wright fiasco every day and night. where were you?

oh and i’m sure my black brothers and sisters just love your ‘in the bag’ comment! who are you to say if someone is genuine or not? seems to me the crying ’sexism’ card was a way of shielding her own forthcoming ‘race baiting’. it was so obvious!

but hey, it’s just my opinion…

Cletus | 6/9/2008, 12:51 am EST

Unlike many posting here, I have a day job and a family. That takes me out of the running for Most Able To Carry On An Anonymous Flame-Fest. That said, a funny aspect to the “Iron My Shirt” campaign is how unnerved it made Hillary; her bellowing and strident responses displayed a better caricature of old-school 60s/70s feminism than any joke or comedian could. The first female president will not come from Ms. Rodham’s generation with its baggage.

Jeff | 6/9/2008, 12:50 am EST

My mother is 62 years old, retired, and white. She only follows politics casually, and supports Obama because her son does. Last weekend, during a conversation about the primaries, a asked her if she thought there was sexism in play, and she responded, “only what Hillary tried to put into play”. Now I know where I get my common sense from.

peahirider | 6/9/2008, 12:46 am EST

Can the Democrats take back the White House this year? It remains to be seen now that the “centrist” Democratic Leadership Council faction has been ousted by the more progressive forces that began their rise to Democratic Party power with Governor Dean’s 2004 candidacy. Will Senator Obama extend his victory in the internecine Democratic Party power struggle to the general election in November? As a life long supporter of the Democratic Party, I for one am thrilled that the DLC “centrist” lock on strategy and ideas (all of which have resulted in devastating losses of the Presidency in 2000/2004, and the House and Senate in 2004) has at least temporarily been ended. I’ll be working as hard as possible to ensure that Senator Obama is elected to the White House in 2008.

John | 6/9/2008, 12:43 am EST

Terribly sexist. — Geraldine Ferraro, on Barack Obama’s campaign

Boy lady…you need to get a grip. Talk about someone who has lost perspective.

S. G. Hayward | 6/9/2008, 12:41 am EST

I don’t think men or white people can honestly detect the full extent of sexism or racism is when it appears in our society, be it in T.V. or on the Internet, or in daily interactions with people. I think sexism certainly played out to a degree against Clinton, especially in regards to what she wore, and the pre-New Hampshire episode. I think racism also played out against Obama, and sometimes Clinton was the person who used it.

However, I disagree with Mr. Taibbi’s central point that Clinton can decide this election. The GOP subsidized version of “free market capitalism” that McCain ultimately represents should not appeal to anyone who is middle-class or below.

Furthermore, Clinton barely carried the female demographic in the Democratic primary. As TIME pointed out, the split was between optimist women (those believing that a female candidate is now possible in their lifetime) for Obama, and pessimist women (those believing that female candidate is impossible in their lifetime) for Clinton. This was a young women for Obama, elder women for Clinton, with a pretty even split in middle-aged women.

Also, some of Clinton’s victories were influenced by a clear victor in the Republican race, witness Indiana, where Republicans were able to give Clinton the primary by registering en masse. A similar situation may have occurred in Ohio.

Slim | 6/9/2008, 12:39 am EST

From the article above:

“Generations of young women will grow up remembering this race as a great national lesson in which the country was taught that a woman can succeed in head-to-head combat with men”

No, I think not. She ain’t no Maggie Thatcher, Amelia Erhart or Florence Nightingale. The next generation will have only a vague idea of who she was, and history won’t portray her in a very positive light. After the emotion has faded, the stark record of her actions and words will make her in hindsight look rather pathetic and embarrassing.

Even now, her obviously reluctant and lukewarm support of Obama speaks volumes about her inability to get over her own bitterness at losing the nomination battle.

History will not judge Hillary Clinton kindly.

Kmb08 | 6/9/2008, 12:23 am EST

I didn’t so much regard Obama’s campaign as having played the “sexism” card, the media did that quite well without him. However, I did regard Obama’s campaign as having played the “racism” card. After quite innocuous remarks by BC, and after Jesse Jackson said he took no offense whatsoever, Obama’s campaign(B. Burton) distributed memos declaring Bill’s comments as very racist! This was all it took to completely solidify the black vote. Obama never had to work for their vote after that, so the tactic worked like a charm. It wasn’t Obama who went to the Black Forum in N.Orleans…he didn’t have to. It wasn’t Obama who spoke in Memphis at the MLK anniversary..he didn’t have to go there. It wasn’t Obama who spoke at the black library event…he didn’t have to. Notice after the victories for Obama in the high AA states of GA, AL, SC, NC..he made sure he didn’t have too many AA’s sitting behind the podium as he spoke. He still wanted to show the white voters he was getting. The AA in Indiana even complained that Obama wasn’t coming into the black districts as he should campaigning for their votes. Well…why should he? He already had the AA in his back pocket.

To suggest Hillary is the only one politically motivated, and ambitious to a fault, and is the only one who uses underhanded tactics, is ludicrous!

Have you researched Obama’s IL. Senate race in which he blocked candidates from being on the ballot so he could run uncontested? One of these candidates was a supporter of Hillary’s because of Obama’s tactics.

Did you research how Emil Jones padded Obama’s resume’ by placing his name on pieces of legislation he had done no work on?

As to the math: The math never did add up for Obama either. To suggest that it did, is to not understand the superdelegates role.
The delegates are awarded disproportionately. Hillary won more votes in Texas, but Obama won more delegates. Obama had a margin of victory of 13,000 votes in Iowa, and netted 13 delegates. Hillary won by 200,000 votes in PA, but netted only 10 delegates. Caucuses, by their nature, are disenfranchising. Depending on the district, some votes are worth more than others. My point being: Obama simply had a “lead” in delegates, but he could never reach the threshold needed. The superd’s, if needed to decide, are SUPPOSE to look at many variables, e.g., popular vote, delegates, momentum, swing state advantages, electoral map, but if they had done this, HRC would be the nominee.

HRC’s voters are not “bitter” because we lost, or at least, for me, I feel Obama’s campaign played even dirtier than Hillary’s campaign. Bill Burton distributed memos to the press to add fuel to the fire anytime it was opportune to do so, then Obama would prance out and say let’s move on, as if he was “above it all”.

I’ve done quite a lot of research, and I don’t find Obama genuine, or qualified. As to his associations, he has quite a pattern of associating himself with radical elements, and if I did the same thing, I too, would be judged by these associations, and rightfully so.

Hillary did make campaign blunders..no doubt about it, however, having said this, there is also no doubt the media was in the tank big time for Obama, concealing, for as long as possible, Obama’s damaging associations. In addition, the DNC railroaded Hillary in more ways than I care to get into at this time.

Diane | 6/8/2008, 11:52 pm EST

It’s funny how many in the press were able to detect racism in every comment about BHO — were able to detect criticism in comments that were not even about him — and yet can’t see the sexist way Hillary was treated.

I have other choices than BHO and will make one of them. Write-in for Hillary; third party; McCain. BHO will definitely not get my vote; rather, I will find a way of voting against him.

Richard Bentley | 6/8/2008, 11:19 pm EST

I’d like Hillary supporters to point to the so-called sexism of Senator Obama. Where are the incidents and how many were there? In addition, how about adding up the manifold accusations of sexism leveled at Obama by the Clinton supporters. This is getting to the level of paranoia. It is certainly true there was a degree of sexism practiced by the media. But in fact, this is a Red Herring. The reason Clinton lost is her excess baggage, especially her support for the Iraq War, the way she conducted herself during the campaign, and her campaign organizational problems. I have no hesitancy in voting for a woman candidate for president, but not one who voted for the war and seems to have some character issues.

LonghornMama | 6/8/2008, 11:12 pm EST

Thank you for respecting the race of this “lioness” of a candidate. As a woman, a daughter, and a mother of two beautiful girls, Hillary Clinton did me proud. Don’t expect me to vote for a ticket with Webb, Kaine or Richardson. Clinton fought her heart out. She deserves the nod.

K Smith | 6/8/2008, 11:05 pm EST

There seems to be a need for some, to make HRC out to be something she’s NOT!

celticfenian | 6/8/2008, 10:55 pm EST

you are ascribing a bit too much power to the hillster. as if it’s all in her hands to decide. obama is going to win and when he does it is going to be a great accomplishment of HIS. this election is going to be a referendum on the iraq war first and foremost, not a tribute to the power of the clintons.

wouldn’t there be a backlash if voters thought that hillary was not giving her all in campaigning now for obama? if voters thought that somehow she enabled a mccain victory in 2008, they would surely hold it against her in 2012. she’d be shooting herself in the foot.

plus, this scenario ignores the question of cabinet position or v.p. spot which may come her way.

you are framing a false choice here…

David | 6/8/2008, 10:17 pm EST

Isn’t it funny that BHO was criticized over the “bitter” comment, yet how many of HRC’s supporters seem to be perfectly described by that word?

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