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The “Limbaugh Effect”

5/7/08, 1:31 pm EST

The Obama campaign has been pushing what they’re calling the Indiana “Limbaugh effect” pretty hard in the last 24 hours. They put out two memos last night citing the underhanded influence of the right-wing pundit and his quest to prolong the race via “Operation Chaos,” and John Kerry stressed the idea in this morning’s conference call with reporters, saying Limbaugh was “tampering with the primary.”

Here is the camp’s argument:

    According to the latest exit polling data, 17% of voters in the Indiana primary today said they would vote for John McCain in a Clinton/McCain matchup.

    41% of that number is constituted by people who voted Clinton in the primary but also indicated they will vote for McCain in the general election.

    That comes out to just under 7% of the primary electorate the number that may be attributed to a “Limbaugh Effect.”

The math in this case is a tough nut to crack, as no hard and fast evidence exists to prove how many Republicans came out for Hillary simply because El Rushbo said so. Even with a rabid following, seven percent is rather enormous. But considering the narrowest of margins Clinton won by, Limbaugh’s gospel might have been the deciding factor.


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Anonymous | 5/7/2008, 2:17 pm EST

(Jed Clampett)

Isn’t there some kind of laws saying that a news organization… in this case Faux News… cannot act in any way to influence an election or campaign. They must remain neutral and give equal time and handling to the candidates.
Seems to me the spirit of the laws have been broken, if not the letter. Sen Obama should file a complaint with the election committee, I mean if Faux is not a news organization but a political mouthpiece, then it should be labled as such, not allowed to continue passing itself off as information and elucidation rather than disinformation and obscuring the issues.

rage | 5/7/2008, 2:34 pm EST

That this hillbilly heroin addict still commands an audience is stunning. Any so-called patriot who can vote under the influence of Limbaugh flatulence probably isn’t mentally or emotionally accountable for his/her actions, and probably shouldn’t be allowed to corrupt the electoral process being allowed to vote.

Goodall | 5/7/2008, 2:46 pm EST

Limbaugh is a jerk with his silly antics…..The American people deserve better..

Marvin Harrison | 5/7/2008, 3:01 pm EST

Bring him by my bar

chris c | 5/7/2008, 3:10 pm EST

Given that the overweight drug addict and his faux news pals were unsuccessful, I would say there is no limbaugh effect. Sen. Obama is better off to ignore that clown and render him and his boy hannity irrelevant.

charles | 5/7/2008, 3:31 pm EST

Obama’s camp and the loser wussy effete Kerry (who allowed himself to be swift-boated to death) are whining about Republican influence? What hypocrisy because that is the only thing that kept Obama afloat in the grand democratic states of Idaho/Utah/Kansas! I thought Obama could bring in Republicans? Guess not in Indiana. The real issue is Obama’s camp thought they had Indiana months ago and given their attempt to steal it in Lake County with Gary’s nefarious mayor ran afoul when the networks started questioning the voting integrity after several officials in Lake County concluded something was amiss.

boppa | 5/7/2008, 3:45 pm EST

Good for Rush – He is at least making people think a little bit. This Country and its Democratic leaders have acted in a most dispicable manner ever since they took back the House. Hillary is like Bobby and shoud never even have been elected a Senator with her bs 35 years of experience. They wanted to play the card game now let the chips fall where they may

A Rational Mind | 5/7/2008, 4:00 pm EST

The real question people should be asking is do you want the democratic process subverted by the political machinations of extremists on the left or the right? Whether it is legal or not, cross-over voting to negatively impact Obama or extend the Dem’s nomination process subverts the INTENT of the process. It is as bad, IMHO, as liberals wanting to eliminate the requirement to show identification at voting stations.

P.K. | 5/7/2008, 4:44 pm EST

It seems to me that Operation Chaos is at once anti-American and driven, not by any altruistic impulse, but by an oversized ego. I am a conservaative and was, at one time, a fan of Rush’s. Operation Chaos has forever changed my view of Mr. Limbaugh. Interfering with the voting public with no certainty that his efforts will be good for his country, seems a sham. Newt Gingrich is correct. One should not “play God.” Unintended consequences are inevitable. Perhaps Rush has passed his prime. Bye,Bye and Godspeed.

Anonymous | 5/7/2008, 5:17 pm EST

It’s astounding that his fat f*ck is even relevant anymore. The fact that he’s still such a prominent figure on Faux is just another indication of republican hypocresy. They look down on pot smokers, but a guy $elling oxycontin is OK? ‘Hell, let’s give him a mouthpiece that reaches millions, he’s proven himself to be one of us.’ Evil is well represented among the american people, in fact, they seem to fail up in this country. So much for ‘one nation, under God’… maybe they meant their God is that which is known as the devil.

Mandelay | 5/7/2008, 5:49 pm EST

Why does the Democratic party have “open primaries”? Why don’t they have closed, winner take all primaries? With closed winner take all primaries, we would have had a nominee by now. Instead, we have a stupid system. BTW, lots of Republicans voted for Obama. What “effect” produced that?

Anonymous | 5/7/2008, 6:07 pm EST

(Jed Clampett)

the fact that he is attracting well educated, wealthy, intelligent people who have realized how corrupt and undemocratic the republican’t leadership has become. So I guess you can call it the ‘presidential moron effect’.

They won’t have a winner take all structure because this is a representative democracy and giving someone all votes because he won a simple majority is akin to a rich guy taking all the profits for himself because he can.
They will allow open primaries because in a democracy people are not excluded as the repubicans like to exclude latinos, blacks, poor, etc. etc.

Democrats would have had a nominee by now, but the people of these other states waiting to make their choice would be disenfranchized.

The only ones bothered by the lengthy primary are those who want their candidate to win regardless of people’s choice or candidates acceptance by the public.
The only thing that bothers me about this campaign is the rethoric flying around instead of discussion of true issues and proposals for resolution of issues important to all americans(not it’s duration, it allowed deeper scrutiny of the candidates). But I guess when you let a couple of rich conglomerates own all your media outlets, this is what you get.

NewportRacer | 5/7/2008, 6:23 pm EST

Reminds me of Hillary’s rants about a “vast right wing” conspiracy when Monicagate broke wide open.

Anonymous | 5/7/2008, 7:07 pm EST

(Jed Clampett)

Sure, the same vast right wing conspiracy that Bush senior worked against when he threw the election to Clinton. the vast plutocracy that controls the wealth.

The guy didn’t even really try. I guess he realized they would eliminate him eventually if he stayed because they were mad at him for avoiding going into Baghdad. At least the father had more sense than greed in some respects.
Interesting that they tanked the economy to hurt his chances and force him to not attempt to run. It gives you an idea of what they will do to discredit the black man’s administration if he wins.

Hey, are some of this old money people holdovers from before the civil rights era? there sure seems to be alot of hatred there.

Jesus | 5/7/2008, 7:16 pm EST

Accept me as your personal savior or burn forever in Hell.

jesse | 5/7/2008, 10:31 pm EST

I find it sad that some of us believe that the use of deception to create division will benefit our nation in any way. This ‘ends justify the means’ tactic is destructive and unpatriotic.

Sometimes the means undermine the ends.

I have a proposal:
Let us counter ‘project chaos’ with our own mission. Let us take stock of our priorities and recognize the great number of issues we democrats agree upon. We should reach out to one another and find a way to work together. We might even consider reaching out to conservatives. Isn’t that what our candidates want? Isn’t that what is best for our nation and the world? Isn’t that the only way we will truly move forward?

We can name this new mission after the man who ultimately inspired it: We can call it ‘PROJECT LIMBAUGH’.

OxyContin | 5/8/2008, 1:27 am EST

Rush was addicted to me.

Kip | 5/8/2008, 11:13 am EST

I do believe it’s wrong that Mr Limbaugh would tamper with what the right calls ‘our sacred right’ to vote. Scarier yet is that so many Americans would listen to and follow the instructions of a man who is simply after ratings. Limbaugh is like Pro Wrestling, entertainment, but not to be taken seriously.

BurnDaddy | 5/8/2008, 12:22 pm EST

“Limbaugh is like Pro Wrestling, entertainment, but not to be taken seriously.”

Add Fox News to that category as well.

Dr. Ralph | 5/8/2008, 4:42 pm EST

Add the Commie News Network… errrr CNN Burndaddy. Too bad I don’t listen to Rush or I wouldn’t have wasted my vote on Ron Paul.

Watching Hitlery’s speech proclaiming herself the Indiana primary winner was just plain sad. The woman absolutely does not know how to work a crowd or give a speech. She needs to watch some old Bob Hope or Johnny Carson videos and work on her timing. Every time she had the crowd ready for a standing ovation she should have paused but blundered on. You could see Bill standing behind her cringing. He was a master at the art.

Dr. Ralph | 5/8/2008, 4:45 pm EST

Another thought… what about the super-delegate that is offering his vote for 20 million? Democracy in action? Seems the Demo’s have a system that mirrors the Electoral College they love to hate.

Coach | 5/8/2008, 5:20 pm EST

This whole ‘Limbaugh Effect’ still being questioned is insanity at its finest.

Pure Fact: 10% of Hillary Clinton’s popular vote in ‘open’ democratic primaries has come from registered Republicans, like those in Texas and Indiana to name a few. Two of her ‘wins’ came Tx and In. If it wasn’t for Limbaugh, and the sheep who follow him, she probably would’ve dropped out when she LOST Texas.

Although, since McCain hasn’t been able to start his ‘campaign’ (smear, hypocricy tour) yet, it’s probably not a big deal.

Dr. Ralph | 5/8/2008, 7:41 pm EST

Coach, believe it or not most true conservatives hate McCain. He is not a Republican but a middle of the road opponent who we believe will bury the Dumbocrats once again… Conservatives who vote Hillary are not doing so because they want McCain to win, but because he is a back stabber and they are hoping to get back Bill’s economy so their stocks and real estate can rebound. That and they are mostly racist greedhead pigs.

Anonymous | 5/9/2008, 3:43 pm EST

(Somewhere In The Middle)

Rational Mind, I think you are the voice of reason on this. Extremists on both sides of the aisle will do whatever it takes for their guy or gal to win, including subverting the process.
As for saying that Fox News is influencing the election, thats a cop out. In this election, coverage by the media has looked like swiss cheese with gaping holes where objectivity should have been.
As for Rush Limbaugh, he is a pathetic, overweight, hypocritical loudmouth whose statements should be given as much credence as those of Jeremiah Wright. Who cares what these guys think?

Anonymous | 5/9/2008, 8:22 pm EST

(Jed Clampett)

Obviously many people do, otherwise he wouldn’t have his own show… even after getting caught with industrial quantities of a drug that is destroying the heartland. Is it possible it was all for personal use? I think not. That’s the kind of spirit that is misguiding some folks out there, filling their minds with hate and vitirol… what’s worse, faux is making the resources available to him to carry on his campaign. Political expediency to get control of the treasury.

Anyone voting republican after the last 8 years and the way the energy sector, financial sector, home sector, fema, red cross…etc etc has been mismanaged for the last decade or so needs to have their head examined or visit a priest capable of doing an exorcism… constantine anyone?

Anonymous | 5/10/2008, 6:18 pm EST

(Somewhere In The Middle)

Jed, I’m with you on the awful vitriol and hatred being espoused by the Limbaughs of the world. While it is their right to say such things, there is no place for it. It is even more offensive when there is extreme hypocrisy involved – railing against drug users and gays when they need look no further than their own mirror and elected party officials. At the same time the DailyKos and Moveon have done their fare share of spouting hate. Either way, there is no place for it.
As for your second point, I think some people will vote for McCain, not because they think he is the best man for the job, but because they think he’s not as bad as the other guy. I don’t know who I’m going to vote for in the election. I definitely don’t want more of the same, but I also don’t want a tax and spend president creating more entitlement programs either. I like Obama’s message of change, I think we severely need change, but I still don’t know what his plan is. For fencesitters like myself, this will be a tough election.

Anonymous | 5/11/2008, 10:26 am EST

Jed Clampett

I guess for me it depends on who the taxes will hit and how hard. I was told I was being given a tax refund but got a pittance compared to these guys that don’t need it. Now that the nation and so many of it’s people are having such a hard time, then perhaps the current status quo must be reversed. We should analyze objectively and reasonably at how tax breaks, incentives, grants, etc etc are used in this country. Are they used to actually create an economic situation favorable to development or merely another backdoor income stream to an industry already awash in exhorbitant salaries, extravagant expenses, and questionable business practices.
C’mon, these guys are paying themselves huge salaries, their companies making huge profits while at the same time our technical and manufacturing jobs are sent overseas while pensions here are allowed to be underfunded or frozen in exchange for the danger and exposure of the stock market. Doesn’t make sense to me. I can see very well when I’m being lied to repeatedly in almost all things by some government actors, other’s must do so as well. Why can’t we get them to resolve our grievances? Why do corporations have a louder voice in america than the people do? Is money really that much more a factor than the economic, physical and social health people.

Matt Garville | 5/11/2008, 9:50 pm EST

It’s a shame Limbaugh had an effect on this race.

I echo Chris Matthews’ view on the Limbaugh effect and those who only voted in the primaries for distractive purposes.

“I have to offer a ‘Keith-style’ Special Comment on that. Anyone who voted to screw up the political system of this country with the purpose of mischief should carry that with them the rest of their lives. What a ridiculous way to use the vote for which people fought and died — to use that vote to make mischief. I hope you’re proud of yourself.”

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