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Making Lemonade in Terre Haute

4/11/08, 10:05 pm EST


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Qwerty | 4/11/2008, 10:19 pm EST

Obama is going to accomplish exactly what he needed to do with this speech. See, there was no video of the San Francisco remark, just some poor quality audio. Now he’s given all the networks some first rate video to play all weekend. If they play this new speech next to Clinton and McCain’s remarks then Obama will come through this thing unscathed because he looks and sounds great in that clip and he makes both McCain and Clinton look out of touch with the economic realities of small town America.

If you had told me an hour ago that I’d be writing that now I wouldn’t have believed you.

luckas | 4/12/2008, 5:48 am EST

what a foolish thing to say. it feeds into every latte liberal cliche there is. this will be the difference between a 1 or 2 point victory and a 5 or 6 point loss.

BurnDaddy | 4/12/2008, 11:20 am EST

What he said is true. I know countless guys who ALWAYS vote Republican ONLY because of the gun issue. Even when they can’t stand the candidate (like now). The same can be said about issues like abortion and immigration. Many Christians vote Republican because of the abortion issue, but have no problem with a President who engages in torture and slaughters over a million innocent Iraqi civilians, all in the name of Big Oil. It’s a way to get people to vote with their hearts and not their heads. It’s the reason we’ve endured the worst President in history for the last 7 years. Americans just don’t like to hear negative things about themselves, even when they’re true. It’s like when Obama told Wall Street, to their faces, that they were greedy and partially to blame for our economic problems. Directness and honesty from a politician are rare and take some getting used to.

mickers | 4/12/2008, 11:44 am EST

i live in pennsylvania. you bet your ass i’m bitter. obama was 100% right. this country has sunk so low that it is now impossible to tell the truth anymore without the media (and the right-wingers) going absolutely bonkers. God help us.

Coach | 4/12/2008, 5:19 pm EST

Phony Phucking Patriotism rearing its ugly head at Obama, again.

Rule of thumb: Don’t talk bad about white, middle class, god-fearing, gun-toting citizens.

Doughboy | 4/12/2008, 7:15 pm EST

Why are phrases like “latte liberal” regurgitated ad infinitum on t.v. yet actual discussions about the economic impact of globalization on small towns are not?

What Obama said is DEAD RIGHT. Guns and abortion are simply not important compared to the economic prospects of ALL citizens (not to mention war, torture, healthcare, etc.)

The problem is the media. Those that own media companies profit off the increased stock value of the companies they invest in when those companies ship U.S. jobs overseas. That this is extending to failure to even discuss the administrations VIOLATIONS OF THE CONSTITUTION is when you know it’s gone too far.

luckas | 4/13/2008, 6:00 am EST

most of us here know he is right, but first he has to win. the new threshold for the clinton campaign is the notion that anything obama says will be used by the rnc to flame him, therefore he shouldn’t be the nominee. rev. wright was on fox news more than o’reilly last month. any excuse not to deal with the real issues this country faces will be siezed upon by virtually all the media and mccain and clinton.

purplehawk | 4/13/2008, 11:32 am EST

I’m in Ohio and you can bet your last dollar I am bitter. I’ve seen firsthand the blight in places like Youngstown and Akron, and the poverty in Appalachia. Senator Obama is absolutely right. The question is whether or not America will listen.

OBAMA JUST LOST | 4/13/2008, 1:05 pm EST

AMATURE POLITICAL ROOKIE OBAMA JUST MADE ONE OF THE BIGGEST POLITICAL BLUNDERS IN HIS CAREER BY ALIENATING MILLIONS PRO CONSTITUTION PRO 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS, WITH HIS ANTI GUN RANT, SECURING HILLARY AS THE MOST VIABLE CANADATE TO RUN AGAINST MCCAIN!

OBAMA JUST LOST | 4/13/2008, 1:06 pm EST

AMATURE POLITICAL ROOKIE OBAMA JUST MADE ONE OF THE BIGGEST POLITICAL BLUNDERS IN HIS CAREER BY ALIENATING MILLIONS PRO CONSTITUTION PRO 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS, WITH HIS ANTI GUN RANT, SECURING HILLARY AS THE MOST VIABLE CANADATE TO RUN AGAINST MCCAIN!

Coach | 4/14/2008, 1:19 am EST

OJL: Anti-gun rant? It’s that exact generalization that he’s talking about. He’s talking about people that take extreme stances on wedge issues. Exactly the same kind of stance that you just took by citing ‘anti-gun rant’. Pro gun law doesn’t mean anti-gun, but that’s how it’s percieved by the pro-gun crowd.

Just because what Obama said may offend the people he was directing, doesn’t take away its truth……

Anonymous | 4/14/2008, 11:29 am EST

(Jed Clampett)

Just a thought…

someone needs to ask HRC and Sen McCain if they truly misunderstood the message within Sen Obama’s speech or if they are truly that corrupted inside that they would focus on a particular word and fixate their campaign and their media connections on it. Or perhaps they are focusing on a particular word in order to distort the message and manipulate the public. If so, are either of those qualitites something you want in a president?
In the last election, the republican attacked the democrat on patriotism. A young man of wealthy means who could have opted for oxford or the national guard felt he shouldn’t avoid service merely because he was born with a silver foot in his mouth. He CHOSE to go to nam because it was wrong for the poor kids to go and the sons of the elite got to stay home and snort lines. Yet he was effectively painted as dishonorable by a president and his party that most of it’s leadership avoided serving the military in any capacity, much less go to war. The consequences of that action are evident today for all to experience. Yes, the proxy campaign machine, the 527’s that McCain loopholed into the campaign finance law and are accountable to no one are waiting patiently for McCain’s word to start paying for unlimited expenses ads. McCain is willing to accept public money because he knows his friends are ready to use the 527s to run the campaign for him. Hillary has decided to take the smear campaign type of tactic and make it her own as well. Apparently, it’s back to the same ole sh*t politics they’ve been feeding us for the last 3 decades. And now we have 2 candidates that cannot understand a message within a speech without twisting it and manipulating it for their own personal political needs and a candidate that has chosen to speak truth to power without fear of the dissembling and rethoric that will surely be unleashed whenever truth rears it’s ugly head.
I hope the majority of americans prove themselves to be intelligent people above the din of the BS being spit at them by those who would have us remain slaves. If we choose a president that shows himself to be willing to use evil, despotic, undemocratic tactics to force their way into the presidency, the rest of the world will notice that the majority of americans have taken the low road and will work against it in the same way it worked against the totalitarian regime of germany in the 1930s and 40s. Justifiably so, since the protection of the world is much more important than apeasing a hungry, greedy, uncaring beast of a hegemon.

ray | 4/14/2008, 12:59 pm EST

There is a feeling of miscontent in the world, Obama was right The Republicans used God and guns since 1980. Now the Democrats need to use the Economy and the war against McCain.

Somewhere In The Middle | 4/14/2008, 2:38 pm EST

The attacks on Obama’s comment are a perfect illustration as to why nothing ever really gets done in government anymore. What he said is true, but it’s not something you are supposed to say out loud, especially if you are running for office. People in dire straits do tend to become more religious or become bigoted. It is the impoverished areas in Northern Ireland that caused the most sectarian violence because they have nothing but their religion or national identity and as long as they can place another group under themselves in the social hierarchy, they feel they can elevate their own status. Rednecks in the south that are poor and uneducated to this day tend to be racist because as long as the status of blacks is lower than their own, they aren’t the low man on the totem pole.
What is scary is that people in these positions are very vulnerable to two types of messages, one that it isn’t your fault your poor, it’s someone else’s fault and hence you have no personal responsibility or that if you follow certain beliefs and pray to God that when you die you will spend eternity in paradise. Our very nature makes us want to place blame on others for our own misfortune, that’s how Hitler became so powerful and why Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the other false profits have made a cottage industry out of duping poor blacks out of feeling any personal responsibility for their position, let alone improving it.
When Obama said what he said, he was right on, but in this day and age, a frank and open discourse cannot be had and instead politicians will throw money at the problem and say they are fighting to do something about it, but in the end they are merely sweeping it under the rug. Absolutely tragic!

Anonymous | 4/14/2008, 3:01 pm EST

…ignorance and prejudice and fear go hand in hand…

Anonymous | 4/14/2008, 6:52 pm EST

(Jed Clampett)

wow, Clinton and McCain calling Sen Obama elitist!! hello, Mr. Kettle… Mrs. Pot on the phone.

Perhaps Clinton and McCain decided to ignore the actual message and focus on the ill chosen words because they plan on continuing the policies that have failed middle america and the ‘least among us’. Thereby making our sinking boat just a little more tenous while they enjoy their multimillion dollar speaking engagements and brewery.

Let’s see, elitist John McCain was taken under the wing of a rich man who needed a friend in congress and the popularity of the POW would help catapult him to the positions of power he enjoys today. One wonders why McCain tries so desperately to prevent records of the POW’s from being made known. Could it be he was reprogrammed in vietnam and is truly a trojan horse, perhaps he was not really there… a HANOI CANDIDATE in the way of the Manchurian Candidate?

Hillary has apparently worked hard all her life to promote herself within the party. Hell, she even made a sweet investment deal that netter her millions in a few days. I’m sure there was no elitist connections involved in that, she’s just a savvy investor who has been unable to match her luck of that day. Now they enjoy the wealth of having helped so many ‘constituents’ that the president can command Half a million dollars to speak to general electric. No favoritism or quid pro quo there, i’m sure.

Personally, I hope the new guy who isn’t afraid to speak the truth to power gets the nomination. I’ve listened carefully to his speeches and am able to tell the diference between what was said and what is being reported and prepackaged for popular consumption.

Now, if your political leaders, as well as the media, are distorting a message given by a presidential candidate, shouldn’t you be bitter? no, downright angry that you are being played for such patsies, that the elites can manipulate the media and other resources to keep you enslaved to your corporate masters?
Listen to the speeches Sen Obama has given and they so fault him for, pay close attention to what he says the causes of our plight are and tell me that you are not just a bit pissed off if not bitter. perhaps he should have used the word MAD. because personally I’m feeling “MAD AS HELL and am not gonna take it anymore!!!”

luckas | 4/15/2008, 5:11 am EST

somewhere in the middle is exactly right. some issues just cannot be discussed in this country. the sad thing for this country is a few mangled sentences have probably doomed us to another decade of the same old clap-trap.

Anonymous | 4/15/2008, 8:40 am EST

(Jed Clampett)

Unless you make enough noise to drown out the dumbas$es and counteract the biased media.

Anonymous | 4/16/2008, 11:45 am EST

(Jed Clampett)

American’s have been told by their politicians for so long that they don’t matter, that they have actually come to believe it.
The republican’ts tell you government is useless and overgrown, wasteful, every time they get control, they prove it by growing governments footprint and reach into our personal lives and by blowing as much of our treasury cash possible. Democrats like to help people… or at least give the illusion that they help people. Ultimately, they create bureaucracies that become bloated and ripe with abuse and lack any realistic oversight. Unfortunately, it is the regular Joe that gets screwed, the wealthy friends of either party usually become more wealthy, the ones responsible for our business that irresponsibly and negligently allow our institutions to be decimated face no accountability and remain in government continuing the disastrous policies they have previously implemented.

Fortunately, our founding fathers placed the means to change that at our disposal, Only the american people can take back their government from the elitists that are more intent on making more profit than they are on helping all of us prosper. In ancient times, when a leader was found to be selfish and egotistical he was tied to a donkey and forced out of town. In this day and age, the equivalent would be prison time and banishment from politics for half a decade.
The american public needs to realize that they have the power to fix this, to take government back from the oligarchy. All that is required is involvement and a bit of sunlight. Politicians cannot ignore when their constituents overfill their email inboxes with messages. If the squeaky wheel gets the grease, shouldn’t start some massive squeaking?

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