(Somewhere In The Middle)

I think even more telling is her comment that Obama could have been on the Michigan ballot, but chose not to, so he “lost” that contest. She will stop at nothing to win this election. Between the issue with the superdelegates and the primaries in Florida and Michigan, the Dems seem to be drilling holes in their boat as fast as they can. This is going to get really ugly and if they aren’t careful, the Dems will lose another White House election.

Elections, schmelections, Democracy, Schmemocracy.
You can tell the Clintons have been scheming to get back to the white house ever since they left. As that ambition is now slipping away from them, they become increasingly desperate and somehow loose sight of all things fair and just. You can almost see the power hunger in their eyes. They are not going to stop at nothing. Even if it means sinking Obama so they can run for the WH in 2012.

Continuing on with this would be a really bad idea. Is Hillary so blinded by her personal ambitions that she doesn’t realize that this would tear the party into shreds? If she wins the nomination in this fashion, losing to John McCain becomes a very real possibility, and one she deserves. The 2008 election should have been a given for us Democrats, but we sure are doing our best to shoot ourselves in the foot.

Continuing on with this would be a really bad idea. Is Hillary so blinded by her personal ambitions that she doesn’t realize that this would tear the party into shreds? If she wins the nomination in this fashion, losing to John McCain becomes a very real possibility, and one she deserves. The 2008 election should have been a given for us Democrats, but we sure are doing our best to shoot ourselves in the foot. Please stop it Hillary.

This is really sad and pathetic.

I swear if she gets the nomination this way, not only will I not supporty her in the general election, I can’t see myself voting ever again.

I don’t understand how the Dems let this happen. How are pledged delegates not committed to their candidate? What a joke.

Even the Republicans don’t have these problems.

(Jed Clampett)

Only one candidate of the democratic party is promoting herself by demoting and belittling her opponent. Only one candidate calls her opponent a plagiarizer while in the same week releasing a plagarized political advertisement almost verbatim. Only one candidate, in her desperation, is trying to change the rules. Only one candidate has such baggage that the republican party is wiling to tell their minions to vote for her, as she would be the easier candidate to defeat.

There’s only one choice that would help us reduce the influence of the special interests and lobbyists in government. Those using the tactics of the dark side and tells you they belong to the light are lying to you. Those of the light know they risk their souls by delving into the darkside, the others don’t care because they don’t believe in soul and only their personal interests are important. Vote for the one candidate that will work with innate wisdom and affirmative judgement to do the job of the president. That of enforcing the laws of the united states of america, in order to protect it’s populace from enemies foreign or DOMESTIC.

Tim, is there a precedent for taking pledged delegates?

In the Newsweek Q&A she says that it is “a carefully constructed process that goes back years.”

I did a search but all of the returns only mention Hillary.

I never thought I’d see a scenario again where I’d be OK voting for Nader…

Guess you really never should say never.

(DD)

*** PolySci 101 Alert ***

Jeez people, get a grip. I’m no authority on party ‘rules,’ but it’s my understanding that everything HRC said, EVERYTHING, is ‘legal,’ ‘within the rules,’ okay? Do you actually think she’d tell a correspondent from Newsweek she was planning to break the rules? These delegates are PLEDGED, not bound. The ‘rules’ probably vary from state to state ‘cause it’s NOT a national thingie, but it’s my belief that most states allow their delegates to change their mind if they choose. And yes, it DOES go back a long ways; at least the part of changing minds. What if, next June, the leading candidate turns out to be a child molester. Do you actually think the rule makers didn’t take such an option into consideration when they set up this whole operation? Hail, even members of the electoral college are not ‘bound’ to vote the way they were selected.

This is Hillary Hating and nothing more. You have every right to revel in your hate induced rage, but I have to tell you, you look pretty silly doing so.

(Jed Clampett)

While you may be telling yourself it’s hate that makes others reject your choice for candidate, to us, it’s a bit different. I don’t want someone answering that phone at 3am and not knowing how to pronounce the guys name on the other end and calling him ‘whatever’ … how presidential is that?

Typically, when a candidate has to attack his opponent as inexperienced when their experiences are pretty much equal or perhaps even less, people with intelligence recognize that unfortunately, that candidate has no personal assets they can try to promote so they resort to pandering to the lowest common denominator.
Let’s show these idiots we are better than simply a lowest common donmindator.
vote for the common dominator, the guy who has some understanding of what muslims are about and have been taught.
I want a president who knows the Koran and perhaps can quote it at the terrorists to make them realize why they will be defeated and will bring more misery upon their people instead fo the safety, prosperity and peace all peoples seek.

Alot of pledged delegates are only bound for one round of voting. Others are not bound at all, except in an informal sense. So Hillary is pretty much correct in what she says.

I am frightened. We have already suffered the embarassment and shame of a President who was only a figure-head.Cheney, Haliburton, Oil Companies,the AMA and the like have squeezed every financial opp they could out of the office. Obama’s lack of experience will cause those in power to take advantage again. The twenty-somethings that are hanging on his every word can not help him in office. He is not a Rock star and I am tired of hearing that he offers hope (of what?-ask Chicago if they would elect him again)and he is not Martin Luther King or John Kennedy…Hilary has been in the fray and lived to battle again.It is time that a woman changed the testosterone level in Washington.

Yes, she is correct, and yes, it’s legal. But, YES, and a resounding YES this is: She’s desperate. Imagine a scenario, whereby at the end of the election process, she’s behind in total votes, states, primaries, caucuses, delegates, and superdelegates, yet, the delegates decide to change over to her……….Imagine, if you will.

She will stop at nothing to get what she wants, and that’s the White House. She will stop at nothing, including dividing the democratic party. Personally, I don’t think she can ’steal’ this one. I think BHO is for real and exactly what this country needs. What a PR move it would be…….

But, may I stress, the 2nd worst thing that can happen to this country, is Hillary becoming president. The first is McCain. It’s as fundamental as this: This ‘war’ in Iraq has bankrupted the country, morally and financially. Period. McCain will continue it. Hillary will continue it. Obama will at least try to end it. That’s enough for me.

Democrats need to reform their primary system. 1. The state party should determine the date of the primaries. 2. less caucacess and more primaries 3.no states with both.

Yeah, it’s legal. It’s also pigheaded, entitled sounding, and ridiculous. It’s also suicide for the Democratic Party should such shennanigans occur.