(DD)

Good Grief!! The shuttle’s returning at the same time the U.S. Navy is about to shoot down a satellite. They’re screwed.

Hey, if the damned thing’s gonna land in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, why shoot it? Oh, that’s right, target practice. You never know when those clever terrorists are going to ‘bomb’ us with our own satellites.

What’s that? Why’d we put something twenty miles up, full of toxins, knowing it would come back down one day? One of the mysteries of life.

This just in, Bush claims Pakistan election is a victory in the war against terror. A ticker-tape parade is planned in Crawford, TX.

Turns out most of the tainted meat in CA has already been eaten. I wonder if they want the remains returned.

The silence from Howard Dean through all these machinations has been deafening.

Yeah, C’mon Howard, my ears are still ringing from Iowa 2004. I know you (and the rest of the party) didn’t think Obama stood a chance (so what harm would it cause to let him run?) Now that he’s surprised just about everyone by doing so well, I can almost hear you, scurrying behind the scenes, trying to pull your head out of your arse! })

DD: Go ahead and just pick a reason why we’re shooting it down. There’s plenty of theories, since they haven’t told us a damn thing. Remember, there’s about an 18% chance that it’ll hit civilization….but, here’s a few theories:

1. It’s one of Bush’s ’spy’ satellites that are actually an offensive nuclear weapon.

2. It’s a satellite that uses modern technology to power itself, which, if discovered, would put oil out of the transporation industry.

3. It’s a move driven by penis envy. A chance to ’show off’ our new defense weapons. Sidebar: We can track satellites plummeting to earth, but we LOST two commercial airliners on our radar during 9/11? That one still hasn’t been answered, has it??

4. The satellite is scheduled to land in Iraq, which would put the whammy on that oil excursion…..

These opinions not sponsored by oil, coal, gas, alcohol, tobacco, pharma, or the fda

(DD)

Coach,

I’ll try door # 3, thank you.

It just struck me, how can Shrub claim that the election in Pakistan was/is a victory in the war on terrorism, when Shrub’s man, the vanguard of anti-terroism in that country, is defeated. One wonders just how long before the new gov’t tells the U.S (under the guise of NATO) to get the HAIL out of their country.

(DD)

Coach,

It gets better with that spy satellite. Now they’re telling folks, and I quote NYT, “DO NOT pick up any debris.” Sounds straight out of a 50s sci-fi.

I want to hear a non-military, NON-government astromer say that thing poses a threat. It’s the size of a school bus they say. How can an object like that EVER reach Earth?

And if it’s such a world-wide threat, whis is ONLY the U.S. involved? ‘Cause it’s ours? You don’t think if a Rusky satellite was falling and it WAS a danger we wouldn’t be involved?

I haven’t trusted the Pentagon since Nam. See no reason to now.

(DD)

Now THAT is great stuff.

Today the Pentagon is announcing ‘they got it.’

Let’s see, they’ve announced a falling object, something most of us would NEVER see, they announce that it’s dangerous (the sky is falling) and then they announce they shot it down. Film at 11?

I’m now torn between doors # 7 & # 8.

PS If it WAS all true and it WAS door # 5, we can all be thankful for the dilligent public servants at the Pentagon, and their willing surrogates in the Navy.

(Jed Clampett)

Why would you even waste your time reading the semisensical ramblings of someone who’s obviously spent too much time hanging out with alice in wonderland?

What you should be asking yourself is, “do these guys have any idea what releasing that hydrozene in the upper atmosphere will do?”.
In the 50’s they detonated a bunch of nukes in the atmosphere, the russians did the same, to the tune of over 50 devices. Did they have any idea what the radioactive fallout would do? Did they have any assurances that detonating a nuke in the atmosphere wouldn’t blow a hole in our protective layer and let the atmosphere escape or worse, allow something to come in… like some planet killing virus? For all we know, that hydrozene is up there eating up the ozone layer and we wouldn’t know it till it’s too late. Our leaders apparently don’t care how they put us in jeopardy as long as they can keep playing war and KILLING each other.

(DD)

Jed,

Neither thee nor me have any say in what they will do. If we protest too loudly, we could be Pinocheted. I’m too old for that.

Given all other abuses man in his infinite folly is visiting on our home rock, I doubt this one is seismic. Besides, what do you suggest? Boycott war? Resist the draft?

Let’s face it, if the Pentagon (powers that be) ‘rule’ that Anselmo, NE is a hotbed of terrorism activity and a threat to national security, goodbye Anselmo. For all we know, Anselmo COULD be gone, replaced with ‘right thinking’ clones.

It’s 1984, finally. If Orwell is right, can Huxley be far behind?

DD: yes, it is 1984, 1984, 1984….

Here’s another thought: These chumps in the Shrub administration (cheney, wolfowitz, rumsfeld, rice, etc.) all started their political careers during the Nixon years. They saw firsthand how much you can get away with without ever getting in trouble. Then, some of them became cabinet members during the Reagan years and saw how much power they can weild with respect to foreign policy. Combine the sinister, evil ways of the Nixon years, with the power grab of the Reagan years, and (poof!), you have Bush.
But, here’s the kicker: The young ‘interns’ in this administration are the ones to worry about. If nobody gets punished in the administration, 20 years from now, these youngsters are going to concoct the single, largest conspiracy in the history of history.

Nixon didn’t get punished. Oliver North didn’t get punished. Scooter Libby didn’t get punished. Nobody gets in trouble, so nothing’s going to stop the next wave of sinister evil-doers.

Repair America’s image. Be a part of the greatest PR move in our history. Elect Obama.

OH yeah, and send Cheney to the slam!

(DD)

Coach,

You’d better be addressing the 22nd Amendment as well.

You’re right on your ‘call’ about the latest crop seeing the ‘punishment’ for malfeasance. AND the potential for them to draw the obvious conclusion. Obama, with the help of a 22nd repeal, could keep them in think tanks for a long, long, long long time.

As for Cheney in the hoosgow, if he was sent to a regular slammer, he’d be repeatedly violated by fellow inmates. The punishment would exceed the crime. Better to send him to a female prison and let THOSE inmate violate him.

(Jed Clampett)

Well, what seems to work is people power. It worked in the philippines, it worked in eastern europe, it worked in Chile. When people get fed up and start protesting on a weekly basis in a peaceful manner, they have to sit up and take notice. You freeze the parts of commerce that you can and send a message, they will take notice. If you can get a great majority of americans to go outside with a pan and a wooden spoon at 7 pm on march 5th and beat on the pans for 30 minutes you will make them take notice and realize they can’t continue the game, it also helps you realize that there are so many more people that feel the same that it gives the momentum necessary to move mountains.
For now we elect Barak and slowly work on the others.
Repealing the 22nd is ill advised. When a politician gains the highest seat of power he becomes a target for the powers that want to corrupt him. I think 8 yrs is plenty, perhaps allow a nonconsecutive term, but not more than 2 consecutive. If anything, we need term limits on the bofoons that make laws that leave people with no legal recourse when a medical device malfunctions or is used improperly. Apparently that one was written by the medical devices companies and rubberstamped by their tools in congress without as much as a good reading.

Jed,

I have a hunch Abe Lincoln would not agree with you, “…of the people, by the people and for the people.”

On the one hand you argue for the people to unite and speak, but on the other, you don’t trust them to decide who should and should not govern. How do you square that?

I believe the 22nd Amendment was enacted because the power people you dislike feared another populist president who couldn’t be controlled. How did they do it? Playing the fear card you suggested. The only ones who need fear it are those who stand to lose something from the will of the people.

This goes back to the whole theme that we are governed by the elite. This is one of the tools they use. As for the people, if they can’t choose wisely, they deserve what they get.

(Jed Clampett)

I think it has become evident that the people don’t really have a voice in who is elected, or who their VP will be,that used to be a separate vote, sort of a check and balance at the very top. However, the people, though they have a part in the game, it is a very small part(merely for validity), most are easily manipulated and misinformed. The media, that should be the enlightening agent, so to speak, has fallen woefully short and seems to have been subverted by money instead of following the ideals of an informed society rather than one led by the nosering through propaganda.

What worries me about the repeal of the 22nd is that I’ve seen too much to accept that a president can remain squeaky clean in the office for much longer than two consecutive terms. Look at Venezuela and how the country that spurred freedom from colonialism in latin america has been subverted by a totalitarian that has done just that, changed to constitution to give himself more time in office to ‘help the people’. I guarantee you the only people who are being helped is those politically connected with bank accounts in switzerland and the caymans that get deposits from oil industry and other little bilking games. So I figure it is unwise to subject anyone, no matter how good hearted he may be, to the pressures and influences of the office for more than two consecutive terms. While we’re at it, let’s drop the electoral college, winner take all primaries and general elections, combined VP and Prez tickets, and unlimited term limits for members of congress. I think we’ve become quite familiar with what happens to politicians when they are seduced by the ungodly amounts of money flowing from lobbyists and other entities.

Of course Sen. Obama’s campaign is proving too much for the status quo and he has them spinning circles trying to stop his momentum, the problem for them is that his words resonate with the majority of the public that is burned out with the politics of superficiality that has permeated our legislature, executive and judicial for far too long.

(Jed Clampett)

Unless you consider the uber-wealthy as the only people that count as they did in olden times when only those members of a free society who were white, landowning males where the only ones who had any voice in election matters.
Furthermore, once they get in office, why is it that all campaign promises go out the window and they do whatever they want, such as helping the rich get filthy rich?
When was the last time you got a questionaire from your representative or senator asking for your views on an important matter(election cycle notwithstanding)? Or perhaps a reps office publishing the results of such a survey?
Why do you think that is?
Could it be that other than to validate a selection, ‘the people’ don’t matter much?
Seems that the line you quote needs to be revised to fit reality… “…of the RICH people, by the RICH people and for the RICH people.”
So until ‘the people’ get involved in how they are governed and push their politicians to actually represent THEIR interests rather than ’special interests’ we will be viewed with the same filter our business endeavours abroad are viewed with. Distrust and fear, more like the tactics a gangster uses rather than the methods of a democratic society, don’t you think?

(DD)

Jed,

Couldn’t agree more. I think I’ve made it abundantly clear that I don’t trust the ’system.’ I go back to my chiding of TD that it’s all a game, theatrics, but tightly controlled theatrics.

The elite have NEVER trusted the ‘masses’ and FDR scared the beejesus out of them. He ’snuck’ in ’cause he was one of them.

If Obama gets the nomination, I fear for his life sometime between August and November. And his VEEP, for that matter. ‘They’ don’t want a loose cannon on board and if both the Dem candidates were taken out before the party could recover, then the GOP would have an excellent chance to win.

Realistically, of course, I think the arrogant ‘them’ think they can win ‘legally.’ If they DO lose, I’m not sure what would happen. Taking out Obama would only make their situation worse. Unless, of course, it could be ‘proven’ it was done by Muslim terrorists. Difficult spin, that.

(Jed Clampett)

I wish you would stop giving them ideas. What happens will happen, I’m sure Sen. Obama understands the gravity of the situation even if he’s not quite certain what it is he’s fighting against.
Words can be very powerful, and you putting those kinds of ideas into people’s heads isn’t very productive or beneficial… unless your intent is to bring it about.

(DD)

Jed,

We both know that there are many already thinking the same thing. Fearing to speak the unspeakable is superstitous.

Having said that, if YOU had been the one to write those words down, I would probably be vexed.

So, for ’safetys’ sake, TIM, expunge that post please. Yo!! Tim!!

(Jed Clampett)

Actually, it has crossed my mind, probably because people in positions of power have considered it. I mean, if the corporate leaders are willing to allow the prez to send our, and perhaps their, children to a poorly conceived and criminally mis-managed war, then I feel there is no limit to their spiritual corruption. I don’t FEAR to speak the words or to allude to it, only that I understand the power words can have on some people. Truth is, no lable can protect you from these creatures. Frankly, I really don’t believe a lone nut trying to impress an actress attempted to murder Reagan, or the keneddys, or King, or etc. etc.

(DD)

I don’t have a clue who killed JFK, but I sure don’t think it was Lee Lonesome. Just another instance of ‘lost pride’ in this country. If ‘we’ will let ‘them’ get away with that, then nothing is sacred and no one is safe.

I’m just thankful I’m among the great unwashed and of no consequence. If you ‘matter,’ you’re in peril. It’s that simple. Unless, of course, you subscribe to the Conservative mantra that some are born to rule.