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The Great “Shuck and Jive” Debate of ‘08: Andrew Cuomo’s Staff Responds

1/16/08, 5:54 pm EST

I’ve been getting tremendous pressure from New York attorney general Andrew Cuomo’s staff to walk back my post in which I passingly described Cuomo’s recent “shuck and jive” comment as racist.

First here’s quote in question:

[Iowa and New Hampshire] require you to do something no other race does, you know, and I like it, and I agree with you, it’s a good thing. It’s not a TV-crazed race, you know, you can’t just buy your way through that race … It doesn’t work that way, it’s frankly a more demanding process. You have to get on a bus, you have to go into a diner, you have to shake hands, you have to sit down with ten people in a living room. You can’t shuck and jive at a press conference, you can’t just put off reporters, because you have real people looking at you saying answer the question, you know, and all those moves you can make with the press don’t work when you’re in someone’s living room.

Owing to the sensitive issues involved, we invited Cuomo’s camp to submit a statement, which they did this morning:

Your blog grossly mischaracterizes the Attorney General’s quote. Most important, the Attorney General wasn’t even talking about Barack Obama. The Attorney General’s point was a positive one: that Iowa and New Hampshire were important primaries because the candidates could not duck the voters’ tough questions. He clearly meant no offense, as he was lavishly praising both Senator Obama and Senator Clinton in the interview. ‘Bob and weave’ would have been a better expression and is certainly all the Attorney General meant. The facts are important here and the New York Times and Rochester Democrat and Chronicle actually read the interview and clarified the mistake. They are attached below.

Cuomo’s folks have done a tremendous job of putting this toothpaste back in the tube. But I’m not buying what they’re selling. I also “actually read” the interview in question. The Cuomo camp claims that context here is everything — that because the “shuck and jive” comment was not a direct reference to Obama’s performance as a candidate, that it was innocent.

Sometimes context is everything. But sometimes a remark like shuck and jive — which specifically refers to the the artful oratorical prowess of black people to dissemble before white power — transcends all context. There’s one black candidate in this race — one who dazzles the media to boot. And Cuomo used an explicitly racialized, and in my opinion old-school racist, phrase to describe why shimmering TV appearances were insufficient to win the early states. There is no “mistake.” The racist dig is, indeed, unmistakable.

He could hardly have been more offensive if he had said “New Hampshire is not a minstrel show.” The comment clearly resonated with one candidate and one candidate only. Cuomo’s other ‘out’ — that he was praising Obama elsewhere in the interview — also strikes me as laughable. What was all the nastier about the remark is that it was done offhandedly, with a smile. And just ask Joe Biden if a even a compliment can’t expose unintentional racism.


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BeeDub | 1/16/2008, 8:04 pm EST

This isn’t a racist comment. To think it is is utterly ridiculous. If he was talking about Obama the comment wouldn’t have made any sense since Obama did in fact win Iowa. Cuomo said that you can’t “shuck and jive” and win but Obama won. If he was talking about Obama it would make no sense. Get over yourself Dickinson.

Merkwurdigliebe | 1/16/2008, 8:43 pm EST

the use of term as rascist is quite archaic…in modern connotations it’s a fancier way of saying “spin” or “razzle dazzle”; in other words, it has lost it’s rascist meaning…”blackberry” is an old school rascist term, so should one sue the company just because they happen to use a word that held a different meaning decades ago on their product?

if one goes looking for rascism, you’ll be sure to find it, whether it exists or not…but the pc police thing has got to stop…this is hardly along the lines of “macaca” or Sheet’s Byrd’s “white n*ggers” comment

Delta Wild Man | 1/16/2008, 8:46 pm EST

As someone who spent two and a half hours one summer being a black person at summer camp, I can tell you this..
When was the last time you’ve seen any New York Yankee “WHITE MAN” with the last name of Cuomo use the word ” SHUCK AND JIVE “??
And when was the last time you’ve heard Hillary Clinton talk like ” I BE NO WAYS TARRED “??
If a Republican would have said it, These same people would have said it was ment to insult just like when Imus said “Nappy Headed Hoe”..

This is a good example of Societal Double Standards.
I call it Democrat Double Standards, But not to get political, we’ll call it Societal Double Standards.

Delta Wild Man | 1/16/2008, 8:48 pm EST

As long as this she-he-it continues, I’m going to make fun of it as many ways as I can!!

DirtyDennis | 1/17/2008, 8:14 am EST

Tim,

It would appear you have made your choice as to who should be the Demo candidate. It is your right, of course, but objectivity shouldn’t be sacrificed in the process.

You do the Left and your candidate no service and you undermine your own credibility by making repeated spurious claims.

Might I suggest that it is journalism’s role to be a spectator in this process, not a participant. If the Obama people think they have been ’slighted,’ let them address the subject, publicly. Then let the journalists measure the pros and cons of such claims.

Hold yourself to the same high standard you seem to be holding others.

Delta Wild Man | 1/17/2008, 8:29 am EST

I’d like to remind everyone who Cuomo is..

Andrew Cuomo: Cuomo, Bill Clinton’s former Housing Secretary and a prominent Democrat political player in New York, was tape recorded using racially inflamatory rhetoric to build opposition to a potential Democrat primary opponent while speaking to a Democrat group. Cuomo stated that voting for his rival for the New York Democrat gubernatorial nomination Carl McCall, who is black, would create a “racial contract” between Black and Hispanic Democrats “and that can’t happen.” Upon initial reports, Cuomo denied the statement but later a tape recording surfaced. Cuomo later dropped out of the race for governor (source

Delta Wild Man | 1/17/2008, 8:31 am EST

How long are we going to let Known Racists tell us who is or who is not a racist??

DirtyDennis | 1/17/2008, 9:14 am EST

Wild Thing

Which ‘WE’ are ‘we’ talking about?

‘I’ make ‘my’ own judgments, irrespective of the comments of others, ‘your’self included.

‘You’ sound suspiciously like the stereotypical lynch mob leader, standing with a rope, exhorting others to follow. All in the good name of decency.

Given that ‘your’ politics and taste have been revealed to be somewhere right of Rush Limbaugh, I find ‘your’ lamentations on this avowedly liberal site, as always, comical, as distinct from humorous.

Delta Wild Man | 1/17/2008, 9:33 am EST

DD
I show nuff is sorry mass-ah, I show thought we uz all agreed on dat racism.
If you could see it in yo heart to forgive a poor nappy headed fellah like me’z, I’d be greatful show-nuff.

Delta Wild Man | 1/17/2008, 9:34 am EST

HOW’S THAT SOUND DD??
More to your liking??

David... | 1/17/2008, 11:32 am EST

Much ado about nothing, methinks.

Get on with the REAL issues, Tim.

Anonymous | 1/17/2008, 1:49 pm EST

Did you all know that the Democratic Party was founded as a white supremecist’s organization? It makes sense that some of that hate would carry over through the centuries. We’re a country full of ignorant know-it-alls. Myself being one too. But, I’m working on it.

rootdown42 | 1/17/2008, 5:24 pm EST

C’mon, are you serious? That’s what passes as a racist comment? I’m all for sensitivity, but that’s just ridiculous.

Tony | 1/21/2008, 1:08 pm EST

[from a staunch Hillary supporter]
I have argued that many things in the campaigns havent been racist (”fairytale” and LBJ), but this is. Whether intended or not, this phrase refers to blacks covering the truth with hot air and flair. At the time, that was the main critique launched towards Obama — “poetry” vs. “prose.” I am a staunch Hillary Clinton supporter, and I believe she will have a strong record on civil rights (if only for political survival), but this is clearly a horrible statement.

DirtyDennis | 1/22/2008, 8:18 am EST

Wh doesn’t someone ask Obama what HE thinks. That’s all that matters. Not what WE think.

imachong | 2/15/2008, 8:04 am EST

cuomo: the dumbest wop since Nero

Andy | 2/16/2008, 12:30 am EST

Ninety percent of black people are voting for Obama.Is it because of policies or his color? No policy issue would receive such support by just one colored group if proposed by another. Is that racist? Has the press addressed that? Would Oprah taken his side against a woman if he were white? I don’t think so.Has the press addressed that issue? Why not? Is the press also racist?

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