He’s probably working with the neocons, who are now working with Hillary, to make sure that she’s elected and their interests remain intact. That sounds totally paranoid now that I’ve written it down. But, who knows? We’ve all got plenty of reasons to be nervous and paranoid with these dangerous fools.

Shoot the Messenger
Tancredo is stating facts.
Check out the census figures and the numbers to see America’s future.
America will rival China and India in population within the next 30 years.
America will collapse
But..what are facts against the politically correct scream of “racist.”
Shoot the messenger..the writing is on the wall..
America 1 billion + by 2050..

“Shoot the Messenger”

I should and I will. Tancredo is a racist. I would listen to that message if it came from Jim Webb or Nancy Boyda. And your analysis on population and collapse is BS. The most densely populated country in the world is also the most prosperous..it is called Singapore and it is richer than America. So your population voodoo quackery may work with Richard Lamm but not with people possessing common sense.

Mr Tancredo, while correct in many of his facts, was too off- putting in his delivery. His efforts to be heard in the so called “debates” only showed a side that was too abrasive and not disciplined. He has only himself to blamed for not being listened to. Seattle

xyz: if you’re going to rave about facts to defend your racism, you ought to try actually consulting them first. If you don’t, you just look as loony as Tancredo.

Current census bureau projections have the US population at 419M by 2050. Even if the entire populations of Mexico (~100M people) were to empty into the US, they’d have to crank out about 5 babies per PERSON before we’d hit your 1 billion figure. They’d best get to work.

Tancredo will join the right-wing neocons and drag this country further down with their fear-mongoring and racist stances. Nothing will brinbg this country down faster than these neo-cons.

“In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man’s becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American…
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile…We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language…and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”
–Theodore Roosevelt, 1919
Written by President Theodore Roosevelt in a letter to the American Defense Society in 1919, more than 10 years after his presidency.

Fascist

Tancredo’s influence in the 2008 presidential election has been nothing short of incredible … I look forward to supporting his next endeavor.

Go Tom!

Dallas, you actually have it right. Look at guys like Rove and other recently resigned members within the neocon ranks. They don’t stop, they just go to another facet of the same team. Too much public exposure in office stonewalling for bushes administration? No problem, just go to a private business in the defense community as a ‘consultant’. Happens all the time, so much now that it becomes predictable.

I hope all you pathetic libs live long enough to find yourselves in the horrific third world morass you are trying so desperately to creat.

I hope all you pathetic libs live long enough to find yourselves in the horrific third world morass you are trying so desperately to creat.

Tancredo is the worst of the worst when it comes to racism. Ding Dong the witch is dead! Now, we need amnesty for the 21 million Mexican Nationals and their American children ages 0 to 18 years old. Enough of this republican crap!

Tancredo is the worst of the worst when it comes to racism. Ding Dong the witch is dead! Now, we need amnesty for the 21 million Mexican Nationals and their American children ages 0 to 18 years old. Enough of this republican crap!

The problem we Americans face is that the Repubs and Democrats have both become beholden to the big business, cheap labor, Chamber of Commerce interests that they are sacraficing the middle class. Hillary and W are no different on this issue.

Thanks to Tancredo for bringing this issue to the forefront so that now at least the candidates are talking about it.

I started backing Tancredo but soon switched to Ron Paul. As for the illegals he was dead on! We lost money on our house in East Dallas because the illegles turned the neighborhood into one of the highest crime areas in town. What was worse these people dumped their motor oil in the yards and fire guns into the air at parties. If you do not assimilate properly these cultures only create more stress between races. It’s not only a serious problem but it’s planned from the top down to debase the middle class. Tancredo was right about the open border but wrong about the middle east and was lock in step w/ Israel.

If only Joe Lieberman had the guts to endorse Tancredo instead of that POW wackado, maybe they could also put up some fences between the red and blue states, too. United states my a**.

anti-immigration isn’t the problem. It’s illegal immigration that concerns so many. I’ve met a few obviously illegal immigrants and I have nothing but good things to say about them. Very nice, EXTREMELY willing to work and very humble. That doesn’t mean we should allow anyone to come here. We need sovereign borders, and control over who comes here. We also need to change the immigration system to give these illegal immigrants a way to become naturalized without a lot of hassle. The problem isn’t having people move here, its the ability to tax, receive federal help(social security, etc). If they were naturalized, less businesses would be able to exploit them, and thus underpay them. The system is broken, and needs an overhaul, not because we hate immigrants, but because of how easy it is for people to be exploited under current conditions.

you are assuming that those people are willing to give up their birth nationality and become a citizen of the US. Most would reject this assertion, they would like to be formalized, able to work and access the services residents enjoy. There is no need to give them citizenship to do this, residence is plenty. In fact, having entered the country illegaly should be an impediment to citizenship. If you need the cheap, reliable labor, allow them to come in legally and be protected by the laws of the land rather than me exploited by unscrupulous businessmen. If they can take away our engineering jobs by bringing in subpar engineers from India and China surely they can allow some laborers the same consideration in giving our jobs away.

You are right, I should have been more clear. I didn’t mean to say citizenship, but rather any way to make their stay here legal. However, many would still reject any formal change in their status unless there was incentive. If they have a good thing going already(in their eyes, then why change?) Personally, I think the best solution to this is to come down hard on illegal immigrant hiring. Like I said, I have no problem with legal immigrants, so this would have to also include changes to make it easier for these people have legal status. Really, it all comes down to control. I don’t want these loopholes to be exploited and I don’t want anyone taken advantage of, american or foreigner.

Sometimes you have to look beyond ‘the law’ at what is morally right and what is common sense. There once was a law that said alcohol was illegal; then it was legal. Too many ‘laws’ by passed by folks with an agenda.

Legal, illegal, it’s all secondary to other issues. And one of them is racism, plain and simple. The other is ignorance, not that racism isn’t ignorant. Some fat conservative talk-show host says Latin Immigrants (let’s call them by what they are) are ‘cheating’ honest, law-abiding Americans. What a crock.

Legal or illegal they’re an asset to this country for the simple reason that they come here TO WORK. They pay taxes every time they fill up their cars, have a meal with a drink and a smoke thereafter, benefiting the local merchants. They pay rent so landlords are happy and they b-u-y clothes and dry goods. I shouldn’t be surprised that many pay withholding taxes they will never be able to collect on.

So, what’s the problem America? Are we crowded? No. Are they doing jobs we want? No. Are they contributing to the economy? Yes. Are they a ‘drain’ on the welfare system? No. Do they constitute a criminal element? No. Well then, what’s the big deal? Oh yeah, they’re “illegal.” Gulp. Illegal like breaking the speed limit, rolling stops at stop signs and undeclared income.

Helll, we ought to welcome them with open arms. They’re a HELL of a lot better folks then the two-faced hypocrites who want to keep them out. Descendents of the slave owners who claimed blacks were children I expect.

It never ceases to amaze me how a country can come so far and progress so little.

I’ve posted this at more than just this blog, but I definitely do not work for Romney’s campaign. I want some conservatives, who I feel haven’t given Mitt a fair shake thus far, to seriously reconsider their positions. Romney is clearly now the anti-illegal immigration candidate. What candidate can win the support of ALL conservatives…fiscal, defense, AND social? Mitt’s the man!

for someone who’s not campaigning for the mormon religious businessman, you sure do alot of campaigning for him.
Any person with a brain will be able to tell he is a hypocrite on the level of Bushney and will work for businesses and the interests of the corpotocracy rather than the less fortunate among us as a true religious man would. In fact, he’s ralying the troops around the concept of people being ‘illegal’, I wonder what Romney understood from Jesus’ teachings about the least among us. If jesus was undocumented Romney would imprison him and then send him back to wherever he chooses to send him.

im glad Tangrudo is out, He creeeped me out. i never heard of Him before the first debate i thought He was a mean spirited biggot, that He failed shows theres still hope for our troubled nation.

THE WRITER OF THIS ARTICLE HAS ONE THING RIGHT “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED”. TOM, A NOT WELL-KNOWN REP FROM CO, NOT ONLY MANAGED TO MAKE “SECURE OUR BORDERS” THE #1 NATIONAL PROBLEM WHICH IT TRULY IS, HE EVEN GOT PUSHED INTO RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AS SO MANY PEOPLE WANTED. BUT THE WRITER IS A BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL WHO KNOWS NOT WHAT HE DOES (OR SAYS). TANCREDO IS “NOT” IN WITH THE GLOBALIST TRAITORS. HE IS MERELY A DECENT MAN WHO WANTS TO SEE THIS COUNTRY PROSPER INSTEAD OF GO DOWN THE VERITABLE GLOBALIST DRAIN WHICH IS NOW “MERGING” US WITH THE MOST CORRUPT COUNTRY IN THE WORLD (MEXICO)(& ALSO WITH CANADA) WITHOUT ASKING ONE AMERICAN. THE BIG RICH CORPORATIONS ARE TRYING TO TAKE OVER AND TO DO THIS THEY MUST GET RID OF OUR MIDDLE CLASS BY BRINGING IN EVERY ILLEGAL ALIEN THEY CAN TO TAKE OUR JOBS AND STEAL OUR SOCIAL SERVICES AND LITERALLY MAKE US INTO A THIRD WORLD NATION SO THEY CAN DOMINATE US. TOM WAS MERELY TRYING TO SAVE THIS NATION, BUT HE IS A “DECENT” MAN AND NOT CUNNING OR CONNIVING LIKE THE REST OF THE CFR (COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS WHO ARE BEHIND THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION TAKEOVER) MEMBERS. JUST TOM, DUNCAN HUNTER AND RON PAUL ARE THE ONLY SINCERE ONES NOT IN THIS GLOBALIST GROUP. WAKE UP, AMERICA. YOU ARE ON YOUR WAY TO DOOMSVILLE. YOU SHOULD HAVE BACKED TOM TO THE HILT BUT YOU DIDN’T KNOW ANY BETTER BECAUSE ALL YOUR MEDIA (EXCEPT FOR INTERNET & RADIO) IS RUN BY A HANDFUL OF MAJOR CORPORATIONS SO YOU DON’T HEAR THE NEWS. FORGOT TO SAY, MEXICO ALSO HAS A HIDDEN AGENDA CALLED “AZTLAN”, THEY WANT TO TAKE OVER THE SW. 85% OF ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE MEXICAN AND THEY SAY THEY ARE COMING TO TAKE “BACK” THEIR LAND (WHICH THEY ONLY OWNED FOR 24 YEARS). THIS WAS AMERICAN INDIAN LAND FOR THOUSANDS AND THEY ARE DIFFERENT RACES SO THE MEXICANS DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT BUT STILL PLAN TO “KILL THE GRINGO” AND SEND HIM BACK TO EUROPE. THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN “IMMIGRANT” (LEGAL) AND AN “ILLEGAL ALIEN” (WHO OWES NO ALLEGIANCE TO THIS COUNTRY AND JUST WANTS TO TAKE, TAKE, TAKE).HE WILL CALL YOU A “RACIST” IF YOU TRY TO PROTECT YOUR NATION.

TOM WAS THE BEST CANDIDATE AMONGST THEM. HE WAS ALSO THE MOST SINCERE WHO TRULY WANTED TO HELP THIS NATION. BUT THERE IS TOO MUCH BIG BUSINESS MONEY FLOATING AROUND TO ALLOW SOMEONE WHO IS TRUTHFUL AND SINCERE ABOUT PROTECTING OUR BORDERS. TOM DID INDEED ACCOMPLISH HIS MISSION. HE MADE THE NUMBER ONE TOPIC WHICH IS SHOULD BE “SECURING OUR BORDERS”. HE DIDN’T REALLY PLAN TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT BUT SO MANY PEOPLE WANTED HIM TO. GREAT WORK, TOM, YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED WHAT YOU SET OUT TO DO. HERE IN AZ THEY CAUGHT 14 ARAB TERRORISTS BEING SMUGGLED INTO TX BY MEXICANS AND IF IT WASN’T FOR TANCREDO, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY HIDDEN LIKE THE REST OF OUR NEWS (WHICH IS OWNED BY JUST A HANDFUL OF MAJOR CORPORATIONS!).

Justiceforall except mexicans… and any other illegal aliens… and anyone who has a different skin color than me. After all, they come to our country rape little kids and spread leprocy right? Maybe if you weren’t so fixated on the products “Big Corporations” provide you wouldn’t mind a minor hit in your standard of living so much.

As an American living overseas I can tell you that there is no other country on this planet that allows millions of illegals to enter their country. Here in Peru, for example, there are 3 checkspoints on the highways within 70 miles of the border with Chile. If you’re riding on a bus you have to get off and show your documents at each checkpoint. Also, throughout the country everytime you use public transportation you need to prove your identity.
Much of the discussion in the U. S. is based on ignorance on how the rest of the world operates. There is simply no other country (that I’m aware of) that is as lax as the U.S. about illegals entering. It’s not racism that is the main driving force behind the anti-illegal movement (though for sure there are some racists involved). It’s common sense about protecting America for Americans (what a radical idea!) – and also fairness for those who’ve “waited in line” and entered the U.S. legally.

Hizway,

You obviously haven’t waited in ‘that line,’ have you. And it’s practically impossible to get into ‘that line’ to begin with. It certainly is for Latinos. So quit with the legal/illegal. If you’re a poor Mexican, the ONLY way to get to America is to sneak in.

I propose we work out a trade; one person here who hasn’t worked in six months for one Mexican.

And who CARES what other countries do or don’t do regarding immigrants? That’s a cherry-picking comparison. Those guards are probably there more to keep Chileans IN than anyone out. Unless it’s the CIA.

And since you’re going to make a comment about ‘common sense’ and ‘protecting America,’ please, just what is it we’re protecting ourselves from? I’ve asked this question over and over and NO ONE has even tried to answer.

You?

I’m glad he decided to use Chile as an example. Being from there, I tend to keep up with the news. Travel to Peru was a common experience for me while growing up and visiting family in the north.
The 3 control points between santiago and the northern border that HIZWAY talks about were introduced in the early 70’s when the ‘revolution’ started. The controls were mainly to find ’subvertives’ they needed to dissapear, I know of only two left and they are mainly used to prevent the spread of fruit fly from the north. The cops that man these posts are usually underpaid and understaffed so it’s easy for smugglers to pay them off or simply just avoid the checkpoints by taking circuitous dirt roads. Santiago, the capital, has a growing illegal immigrant problem with peruvians escaping the dismall conditions in their own country for the more prosperous conditions in Chile. Chile recently decided to provide documentation (amnesty) to the thousands of peruvians and others illegaly in the country, they felt it was better to have a decent notion of who is in the country and what they are doing in order to avoid having wages depressed further and to provide them with services which will help to prevent the spread of disease or to prevent children from going uneducated. Seems sensible to me. Then again, Chile has a long history of democracy and social consciousness, the US imposed dictatorship of pinochet notwithstanding.
That ordeal was very telling of americas hypocresy in terms of supporting democracy and another reason americans are recognized as the new fascist state by most people that can see their actions from without.

Bolivar,

Couldn’t agree more with much of what you say, but not necessarily all. I subscribe to the notion that we’re all pretty much equal. If one ‘country/people’ outshines others, it’s usually more a result of circumstances than it is a reflection of the ‘quality’ of those people.

This country is a case in point. The prime belt of North America, what is now called U.S.A., was ripe for the plucking. You’d be hard pressed NOT to be successful here. Natural resources galore, temperate climate and wonderful land for growing. All navigable. If you look at a world map, you’ll see the U.S. is on a parallel with the Mediterranean Sea, where all the great civilizations of the past were located. Coincidence? I think not. Now look at Mexico and farther South until you reach mid-way through Brazil. Pretty much on a parallel with Africa. Hot. Humid. Not exactly ripe for development in a pre-industrialized era.

Better, this country was not faced with an indigenous population that was either united or developed. The final piece of ‘circumstance’ was that England pretty much let the colonists of this country do as they please as long as the lucre kept rolling in. Not so in the rest of the Americas where Spain and Portugal tried to remake their papal regimes in the new world.

So, before we go patting ourselves on the back too much, we should stop and consider the good fortune blessed upon this country, a good fortune few others can claim. And I shouldn’t be so condescending about your feelings towards Latin Americans. Faint praise, indeed. I love my pets, but I don’t let them eat at the table.

This country DOES need strong, healthy neighbors. It’s about time we started doing something towards that end. We sure as HELL haven’t done anything up until now, unless you consider exploitation commendable.

That Annonymous was me. Having problems on this end.

Nativism! The New, Hipper Racism!

Jed,

Good for you. I am glad that you are successful. My comments were not meant to denigrate latino culture, but rather to point out a shortcoming. All cultures have their shortcomings in my opinion, although I am aware how this observation must grate on the nerves of some people out there. I am more than willing to point out the shortcomings of (US)American culture, given the opportunity.

The quotation of mine that you included in your post was taken out of context. I did not state what you quoted with respect to entirety of latino culture. I did write that Latin American states have failed to provide for the citizenry and that Latinos have failed to provide the conditions in their home countries that they are seeking in the US. I think that you are the one with reading comprehension problems, my friend. My reference to a culture with ‘little more to offer than unskilled labor’ was in reference to the sub-culture of illegal immigrants. I recognize that I did not do a good enough job of making this distinction.

I have mixed plenty with the people of Latin America. I have no desire to enumerate my activities in this regard, but I will say that most of what I have stated about latino culture failing itself is straight out of the mouths of a great many so-called average people I have had the pleasure to meet while travelling. I believe that this opinion is one that is strongly worth considering. Perhaps this is because of the exploitation that you identified. Perhaps an exploited culture becomes habituated to exploitation and then is less likely to throw off the yoke of exploitation. A similar argument has been made about Russian culture and exploitation under the Mongols, Tsars and Bolsheviks.

Concerning importing problems, I was not suggesting that crime in the US is a result of latino culture. Crime is everywhere, but patterns of crime can vary by culture. My point was that criminal elements that had not existed in the US are now becoming established here as a result of illegal immigration. Similarly, a great many problems in the public education system can be linked to a sub-culture that cannot provide some of the foundational needs for the children it is sending to be educated and to participate in the classroom.

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Jed,

Good for you. I am glad that you are successful. My comments were not meant to denigrate latino culture, but rather to point out a shortcoming. All cultures have their shortcomings in my opinion, although I am aware how this observation must grate on the nerves of some people out there. I am more than willing to point out the shortcomings of (US)American culture, given the opportunity.

The quotation of mine that you included in your post was taken out of context. I did not state what you quoted with respect to entirety of latino culture. I did write that Latin American states have failed to provide for the citizenry and that Latinos have failed to provide the conditions in their home countries that they are seeking in the US. I think that you are the one with reading comprehension problems, my friend. My reference to a culture with ‘little more to offer than unskilled labor’ was in reference to the sub-culture of illegal immigrants. I recognize that I did not do a good enough job of making this distinction.

I have mixed plenty with the people of Latin America. I have no desire to enumerate my activities in this regard, but I will say that most of what I have stated about latino culture failing itself is straight out of the mouths of a great many so-called average people I have had the pleasure to meet while travelling. I believe that this opinion is one that is strongly worth considering. Perhaps this is because of the exploitation that you identified. Perhaps an exploited culture becomes habituated to exploitation and then is less likely to throw off the yoke of exploitation. A similar argument has been made about Russian culture and exploitation under the Mongols, Tsars and Bolsheviks.

Concerning importing problems, I was not suggesting that crime in the US is a result of latino culture. Crime is everywhere, but patterns of crime can vary by culture. My point was that criminal elements that had not existed in the US are now becoming established here as a result of illegal immigration. Similarly, a great many problems in the public education system can be linked to a sub-culture that cannot provide some of the foundational needs for the children it is sending to be educated and to participate in the classroom.

I confess a level of confusion regarding the headline: “Mission Accomplished.” I am wondering just what mission that might be and how one measures accomplishment?

Is it the ‘mission’ of Tim or RS to get Tancredo to drop out of the race? Is that part of RS’ Mission Statement?

Frankly, I would rather have seen him get the GOP nomination than Huckabee. Just as I’m sure the GOP would rather see Richardson get the Demo nomination. Therein would seem to lie at least one of the philosophical differences between the two factions: to wit, the Right knows how to Play The Game. Sadly, the Left just plays.

tancredo sounds like the name of a town in texas or arizona or something…

Likroper sounds like some kinda queer rodeo star.