i thought Huck did well, Rudy is in trouble, the next month is a fight for his political life, Romney failed to impress, Ron Paul did good for himself, Fred did a fair job. This format is great i hope theres a you tube debate when we get down to the nominees.

Would someone tell me why the democrats just canceled their debate on December 10 th on CBS with Katie Couric??
That woman is having troubles enough without this kind of crap happening to her.
We all loved her when she was on the Today Program.
Now the Democrats have just shafted her, Katie has Toe’ d the mark a few times for the party.
Well we had to cancel it because of the writer’s strike that starts on that day.
What??
CBS NEEDS WRITERS FOR OUR PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES??
Where?? For their plants??
Without CBS writers, the people in the audience don’t know what to ask?? Or who to ask??
That’s like FEMA having their own people ask the questions at a FEMA press conference..
I thought this only happens on Saturday Nigh..
Live From New York, IT’S————————– ——— FEMA PRESS CONFERENCE!
Or
THE NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME GUBMENT PLAYERS!! IT’S THE DEMOCRAT CANDIDATES!!
Was the republican debate staged too??

Coach & DD
Could you help us here?
Do we know if the republican debate (s) were staged??

Romney looked pretty bad tonight. He flat-out dodged two or three questions (the ‘is the Bible literal’ question & the ‘Don’t Ask Don’t Tell’ question for sure). And he just looked stupid trying to have it both ways on waterboarding vs. torture. McCain OWNED Romney on that one.

Rudy looked OK. I could like him if he wasn’t quite such a war- and fearmonger.

It’s a similar situation with Huckabee– I like several of his positions, but I like my presidents with a little less Bible-humping.

Dr. Paul looked pretty good, but it’s because he (like Kucinich for the Dems) knows he has no chance, so he can go for broke. He also has several sound positions, despite being a little wacko in terms of the superhighway stuff.

Huckabee is a walking soundbite. What a charmster!

Yes, how about some reactions from the regular commentators on this RS? What’s that? You didn’t watch the debate? You critize Republicans based on what you precieve without ever listening to them or knowing anything about them? Shocking…

Actually, I didn’t see RS criticize anyone on this debate yet. I believe Tim said he TiVo’d it. Pay attention.

the hypocrisy on that stage is immeasurable. someone get me a xanax

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Wild Thing,

Your retention period is remarkable, that or your perception, one. You delighted when Tim singled out my comments about ‘How The Game Is Played,’ yet either forget or ignored my premise. I hope you can understand why I have difficulty taking you seriously.

EVERYTHING is staged. Life is staged. Once you accept that, it becomes a matter of degrees.

The debates are scheduled months in advance, the participants rehearse, they have make-up put on, they gather in front of a selected audience on a STAGE and then it’s lights, camera, action, cue the voice over. What makes you think that at THAT moment, they’re going to trust their precious air time, not to mention the pleasure of the advertisers, to the vicissitudes of spontaneity?

Kid,

I have witnessed six republican administrations and countless conservative congressmen in my life. I have reached a place in my philosophical life which is anathema to anything proffered up by the Right. I am more than happy to hash over the differences I have with the Right, but to what end? Boredom of our fellow readers? You are NOT going to change my mind and I don’t give a whit about others’ philosophies. My ‘insertions’ on this website are aimed at refuting scurrilous claims by social dilettantes than it is in making converts.

I daresay fifty years from now you will have a philosophy that you feel is remotely justified. I sincerely hope you will show the patience I show you to the youth who may question you then.

DD
Thank you for your patience.
The very first person I ever voted for was Ronald Reagan.
I pray to GOD that I am never forced to vote for another Bush as long as I live.
I have seen a few elections in my time, and I’ve seen a few screw up too.
I’ve seen a lot of LIBERAL people, act real Conservative right before they run for national office, then after the election is over, right back to being liberal to the extreme.
I’m not talking about just Democrats, The Republican party got in trouble last election for doing just that.
They were in power too long, so they did what most politicians do, and let that power go to their head, that power became “THEIR” power..
Well the PEOPLE showed them WHO’S power it really is.
I DON’T THINK THE PEOPLE ARE FINISHED SHOWING YET!!
There are still those in Washington who are still not listening, on both sides of the isle.
LOOK AT APPROVAL NUMBERS!

Since this is an open thread, I would like to take a moment, with apologies to many of you, to, again, lay forth my political philosophy so as to preclude the necessity, I hope, of having to respond to queries in the future.

I believe we all accept the necessity for some entity, in this case government, to oversee the affairs of man. In the initial stages, the strong dominated and ruled, finally believing in a covenant from God that they were divined to rule. There are still among us, however, a segment who believes they are ‘divined’ to rule. I doubt it necessary herein to defend that situation.

(I’m going to keep it uber-simple hereafter, so please, don’t jump on the omissions. The whole subject is too large for one post. Take it point by point.)

Over time, the people took control of the government, at least to a certain extent. Today we have a democratic republic, which I think is about as good as it’s going to get. Today, too, we have two factions which are trying to control this republic. One, the Right, believes the people should control the State while the other, the Left, believes the State should control the people.

Beneath the surface, however, is snake pit of conflicting interests and ideals, conflicting to the point that often issues that would seem to favor a State-controlled republic are actually supported by the People-control adherents. But lets stay on the surface for the time being.

The Right bespeaks ‘small’ government, a government that doesn’t interfere. An admirable expression, on the surface. But beneath the surface, we find something else. The Right has a convoluted opinion of what constitutes interference and what does not. It’s NOT interference for the government to put up tariffs and trade restrictions that assist the Right in their commerce. It IS interference when the government tells commerce to stop killing, literally, the populace.

The Left stands for a government, size notwithstanding, necessary to protect the individual, ergo the Bill Of Rights. Beneath the surface, however, taken to its extreme, these protections actually become infringements on the rights of others. Too much of a good thing?

In truth, the Right wants a government which will protect special interests, special interests which are NOT common to the general citizenry. In fact, the Right has no problem sacrificing the general citizenry in the pursuit of its commerce-supporting government. It has no problem warring on smaller, defenseless countries and has no problem subverting the Constitution, especially the Bill Of Rights.

So, I have to ask myself, which philosophy would I, a retiree on a fixed income, support? Need I answer? I want a government that will protect ME, not the interests of commerce and exploitation. I want a government that will place the well being of the individual, ALL individuals above that of commerce and exploitation. I want a government that will place the well being of this planet, the ENTIRE planet, above that of commerce and exploitation.

I run on, I realize and apologize, and I recognize (wow, them some eyzes) that are hundreds of, “Yeah, buts,” and the like, that color all such discussions. KISS. Which philosophy has the interests of the common man as a higher priority? Take the body of work over the past fifty years. Which political affiliation has done more to enhance to well being of the common man and you have MY answer as to whom to vote.

I could give a rat’s ptui who the Right offers up. It’s the PHILOSOPHY I reject.

Prop Sniffer: “Yes, how about some reactions from the regular commentators on this RS? What’s that? You didn’t watch the debate? You critize Republicans based on what you precieve without ever listening to them or knowing anything about them? Shocking…”

Yeah, right. What the phuck is this all about?? As if you don’t villify a liberal for being a liberal without ever meeting them?
Why do you want to hear from Tim when you could care less what ANY liberal has to say?

Delta: Did you honestly ask if the Republican debate was staged?????????

Wild Thing,

Pls don’t post the same post on different threads. You’re assuming we don’t read all the threads. I think you know I and Coach do.

I see this post precedes the other by 12 minutes so I presume THIS is your answer. And yes, I know you modified the ‘intro’ on the other.

DD
Good Heavens, I didn’t know you read all of my posts..
Here’s why I posted twice, I wanted my post in both threads that should have been the same thread anyhow!!
Redundent thread, don’t you agree??

Had to wait until it was on the net since I don’t have a TV, but at least I got to skip past a lot of the non debate stuff.

The most charismatic person up there was Mike. While I detest him as much as I do Mitt and Rudy, I have to admit he did the best. He’s no orator, but he has charm.

As for substance, nothing really impressed me. Of course, I agree with Ron Paul on most issues, but there was never time for him to get past the icing of the cake, so to speak. The rest dodged and twisted like true politicians for the most part. Mitt particularly impressed me with his ability to not say anything meaningful.

To be honest, the debate really didn’t impress me. I already know what these candidates will do, I’ve studied their history, who they are connected with, and their voting record. Nothing they say will tell me anything significant. In particular, despite Rudy’s efforts to make himself tolerable, he is still a corrupt, incompetent thug. As more evidence of his wrongdoings are uncovered, I hope less and less people will be fooled by him. Debates as unfair as this don’t really change my views of anything except CNN. Every lopsided debate they host is just more evidence they are no better than any other MSM.

DD
Sorry I didn’t ask you before,
What did you think of the Democrat Plants in the debate last night??
I thought they made it a debate, not a feather duster, feel good, rub up against each other, type of debate like the Democrats have been having.

Wild Thing,

I can’t think of a thing I’ve said which would indicate I have any interest in who the GOP chooses. Beyond that, I don’t watch any debates, primary or no. Never could stand them. For all the reasons everyone’s complaining about. If, in fact, the debates are phony posturing, why watch them? Let the Right choose who they want and the Left who they want, I really don’t care, they’re all the same. But when the time comes to vote, I vote my philosophy (see the other thread).

Personally, I hope Hillary wins ‘cause it’ll piss off a LOT of folks. Other than that, I don’t care. Although I have to confess I’m glad Rudy’s a Con. If he were a Dem, and won the nomination I’d have some serious conflict. I suppose in that case I’d have to vote ‘Green.’

Glad you cleared that up for us

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