Nice try, but I’ll save my comments for your boss tonight.

Tim-
You’re being way too kind to these people. They think that I’m working with you and all the evil people at the MSM. Anyway, none of your regulars are going to be seduced by their ridiculous tactics.

Tim
I didn’t want to tell nobody, but I thought you had something going there.
Well at the very least,, you now know how I feel..

Still waiting for that article on the KILLER..

I appreciate the olive branch. On the whole, your article was much more fair than the kind one would expect from Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh cheers!

Dallas, you’re a laugh.

A Ron Paul Supporter (Caffeinated Robot with Dough)

Do what you have to do for your mainstream bosses, but the people know the truth when they hear it.
What’s a shame is if Ron Paul got half of the attention the other candidates received this election would be no contest.

Dallas,

Speaking as a ‘regular,’ I’m wondering why in the HELL there’s so much air time for the Cons. I thought this was a liberal site. I don’t give a rat’s ptui WHO ‘they’ choose and I don’t know why RS does. ANYone they choose is going to be bad; ANYone ‘we’ choose is going to be … better.

Ron Paul has a ton of supporters, but his problem is that his support is not localized. It’s diffused throughtout the country – this is why he can raise millions and will still not carry a single district in the Primaries.

Dennis-
I need some clarification. Are “they” the republicans and “we” the democrats? If so, I have to ultimately agree. What I would really like to see is some under-classed, blue collar middle American who doesn’t really want to be President get put into the White House. I think that would send our country ahead in leaps and bounds. Who really knows though?

Dallas,

Sorry, thought I’d established my creditenials as a die-hard, true-blue, dyed-in-the-wool, close-mined, bleeding-heart liberal. And I’m afraid that in the current system, we will NEVER have the best (wo)man running.

Tim,

Nothing. He just says things people want to hear. Like Anderson and Perot before them. Trouble is, talk is cheap. It takes huevos (look at Bush I) and party support (look at Carter) to run the country. Paul has neither and he won’t get either.

After years of actually listening to the mainstream candidates of bith parties, it has taken the absolute corruption of this administration and congressto wake me up. I don’t know how either GOP or Dem supporters can still believe that these pols are acting in the best interest of the country.
Ron Paul simply says get the government out of our lives. If anyone that complains wants real change they have to explore the alternatives.
Put down the party Kool-Aid and begin to think for yourself.

Dallas,

Loved your ‘take’ on those bozos on the other thread.

Mike,

Think? About what? Running the country? How about that for starters. And Mr. Paul’s credentials for doing so are ?

Thanks, Dennis. I appreciate that. You just can’t talk sense into some people when they absolutely “know” the truth.

Dennis-

Oh, you are looking for more of the same. We have plenty of “experienced” people in both parties that are running our country into the ground with horrible foreign policy and worse fiscal policies.
You can keep following the “experienced” pols over the cliff but I will look to others with new small govt ideas. It’s just a shame that you guys are going to pull the rest of us over the cliff with you.
How many failed government programs and massive deficits will it take to realize you cannot sustain it?

I like a lot of his views, but Mike Gravel is the real deal. Why doesn’t Rolling Stone do a feature on Gravel? He ended the draft by himself-meaning he wasn’t pissing and moaning about not having enough votes to override any veto. Plus the guy wants to legalize all drugs and said on MSNBC that marijuana isn’t harmful (”no worse than a 5th of gin!). Where are all the stoners and hippies that should be rallying behind this guy?

I like a lot of his views, but Mike Gravel is the real deal. Why doesn’t Rolling Stone do a feature on Gravel? He ended the draft by himself-meaning he wasn’t pissing and moaning about not having enough votes to override any veto. Plus the guy wants to legalize all drugs and said on MSNBC that marijuana isn’t harmful (”no worse than a 5th of gin!). Where are all the stoners and hippies that should be rallying behind this guy?

I like a lot of his views, but Mike Gravel is the real deal. Why doesn’t Rolling Stone do a feature on Gravel? He ended the draft by himself-meaning he wasn’t pissing and moaning about not having enough votes to override any veto. Plus the guy wants to legalize all drugs and said on MSNBC that marijuana isn’t harmful (”no worse than a 5th of gin!). Where are all the stoners and hippies that should be rallying behind this guy?

Why do I feel Ron Paul is the best person to run the country?

1. He follows the law, which is the Constitution. It *is* the highest law in the land, after all. Now, I’m not some law and order nut, but if the government demands that it’s citizens follow each and every law (they always say ignorance of the law is no excuse), then dammit: why won’t THEY follow the law as well? Would it have been THAT terrible to declare war on Iraq CONSTITUTIONALLY?

Plus, our civil rights are guaranteed by the Constitution. It’s really nice to know our representatives will work to protect our Bill of Rights instead of plotting ways to undermine them.

2. The man is honest…even brutally honest. I’m sick of politicians who lie and spin doctor. Just tell us the truth. We aren’t a bunch of babies, ya know. What ever happened to “rugged America”?

3. His policies REMOVE a good portion of politics out of our lives. Don’t we have better things to worry about than having damn near everything in our lives being politicized?

4. He represents peace and diplomacy.

5. He stands against the failed war on drugs…a war which is making our cops corrupt and making our streets more violent, in addition to making persons of color “de facto criminals”.

6. He stands for all Americans being able to keep more of what they earn.

What do the other candidates really stand for? Hillary apparently has no idea and keeps flip flopping, others have grandiose “plans” that only serve to put a band aid upon past band aids.

With over 20 years of experience in Washington D.C., I think Ron Paul has more than enough credentials and support to be an effective President. He can’t be compared to Perot on that account. Although 15 years later, Perot’s warnings have basically materialized.
Here in the predominantly conservative Fox River Valley of WI, the tide began turning last year. A Democrat, Steve Kagen, was elected to Congress. Kagen’s views and approach is not all that different from Ron Paul’s.

The Paul campaign is experiencing a groundswell of support in WI. I notice more Ron Paul signs every week; a helluva alot more than any other candidate.

We currently have a President who refers to the Constitution as a “Goddamned piece of paper.” Do you really think that Hilary Clinton or Rudy Giuliani view it any differently?

Support for Ron Paul is probably the best “Vote for Democracy” that we can hope for.

I like Ron Paul mostly because of all that vast un-explored space between his ears!!

Actually, I’d love to see Paul compete. There’s a virulent strain of rabies within the GOP that I think will manifest itself under the right circumstances. If it does, the dog will turn on itself.

Tim: I read your original post and was very dismayed. I think you (and many others) are looking at the Ron Paul campaign from a completely different perspective than we do. It may serve you well to try and find out what Ron Paul supporters feel the way we do, that is: disenfranchised, alienated, disrespected and plain old ripped off by our own government and it’s cheerleaders.

I’ve been reading Rolling Stone since I was in junior high (I turn 42 next week. *ugh*) and have always cheered the magazine’s political exposes and tough stand against the drug war. Today was the first time I actually debated canceling my subscription (aside from the time you first put Britney Spears on the cover!).

Tim. The thing is, with many of us, we are honestly scared of the path our nation has been heading down for a while. Ron Paul is the first candidate to come along in my lifetime to really give me hope for a positive change.

Thanks for the olive branch. It’s much appreciated.

It’s funny that part of a comment I wrote which admonished people from making insults is one of the quotes used describing how you were savaged. I’ll stand by my statement though claiming that your poorly written article was in fact a disservice to this country. However, I had no malicious intent in stating that. In fact, I was trying to find the nicest way to state the damage you were doing in so poorly writing that article.

In any case, I’m sure you will agree that many of the nicer posters already have described exactly why Ron Paul is deserving of our vote in that previous article. Amongst all the mean comments, it looks like you have what you are asking for already. Why the need for another article Tim?

Seriously, Tim, there is nothing outstanding about Ron Paul.

In fact, Tim, there’s nothing outstanding about ANY of the candidates — Repub or Dem.

You know, we could just elect a CFR Board Member and get it over with. LOL!

bk, I’m trying to find a good source of proof on google for your claim that he hates women but I’m not getting anything. Do you know where I could do some research on that issue?

Oh,,
Were we suppose to donate money to Ron Paul on the 5th??
I must have missed that message on YouTube..
I sure wish these folks could get a little more organized..

So now it’s the audience that is supposed to provide the information to the journalist? Nice!

proof, pro-life is code for misogyny in my personal dictionary. i’m certainly not trying to open that can of worms, especially not in this thread, but it is really beyond me how an ob/gyn can support the suppression of a woman’s right to make private medical and sometimes life-threatening decisions with her doctor. again, not trying to open a can of worms but i vote pro-choice 100% of the time and that is the main issue where RP loses me. Otherwise I think he is a fine candidate and again, wish him much luck.

Now I see where you are coming from bk. Instead of debating abortion(which would require I preface my arguments with TONS of presuppositions to lay it all out correctly) let me instead assure you that Ron Paul has strongly advocated for states to take on this decision. He has voted down any federal level law on this issue save partial birth abortions(cut the baby up as you are giving birth to it) unless it risks the mothers life.

I’d post a link to his voting record but they tend to get filtered by this blog. Please google search it yourself if you are curious.

Anyway, if this stance is sufficient to be considered a woman hater, then I am guilty of it as well. For I believe that the local government should be the ones to decide these decisions, and thus allow the people within that community decide how they wish to be ruled. Simply put, he does not hate women(at least not from the evidence you put forth). I hope you wish to look at the evidence yourself because it is fairly clear that he is supporting peoples right to choose how to live their own lives, which includes women. I encourage you to look up the arguments, voting history, and such yourself because I think you misunderstand or have been mislead as to what his stance is.

As Ron Paul himself said, he has his shortcomings, but the message has none. The question we should be focusing on is what are the virtues of that message. As long as Ron Paul will do as he promises and advocates it, nothing else but that message matters in this discussion.

Why even bother trying to preach the virtues of a real Statesman like Ron Paul to the likes of you? Who is your man? Hillary? Or Rudy the cross dressing candidate?

Serious questions…

If Ron Paul ever got the GOP nomination he would be assassinated. The guy is a greater threat than Bobby Kennedy and JFK combined.

Changing regimes requires concerted, sustained and overwhelming military effort. Not democracy. Iraq has proven this.

I don’t know enough about Ron Paul to say anything worth reading about his platform. I haven’t really given this phenomenon the attention that it deserves, but I will endeavor to learn more. At any rate, the previous RP thread has piqued my curiosity in a big way. The observation from this experience that I keep returning to is the following. While the TD’s post was somewhat critical of a particular fundraising strategy of Ron Paul’s, the response was one of total indignation of the close to 300 people who responded. Regardless of how I might be inclined with respect to Ron Paul, I am shocked that such a marginally critical stance on one particular strategy of this candidate could insight such intense feelings in so many. Something about it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. As a frequent visitor to this site, I am all too familiar with this kind of over zealousness, but the scale of this reaction is totally unprecedented in my experience with forums such as this one. Trying to resolve this inconsistency in my own mind, I am left with two possibilities. First, this is just a function of the atypical, grassroots, outside-the-maistream approach of this campaign; in particular, I am thinking that the campaign has some sort of network in place to drown out critics with a cacophony of vague praises and pledges of support for Ron Paul – call it guerilla campaigning, if you will. On the other hand, it is possible that the candidate actually inspires such unswerving devotion that a mild rebuke such as the one expressed by TD is simply intolerable and evokes the kind of unwarranted response we saw today. On this site, comparisons to Nazi Germany are often bandied about. I am usually one of the first to criticize these comparisons. Nothing is able to convince me more that I might be wrong about the invalidity of such comparisons than the response I witnessed today. I am really starting to think that this country might be so disillusioned with the political process (with or without good reason) that such blindfaith in a candidate is able to emerge. Tim Dickinson’s comments were critical and he deserves to be taken to task in so far as his criticism is without merit, but the response we saw today was beyond the scope of what one would expect for the opinion he expressed. In my opinion this is either the product of a well-orchestrated sham, or it is an accurate representation of a segment of the population that is so disaffected that it is beyond reason.

Ron Paul is the only honest man left in Washington. His integrity is modeled on that of the faounding fathers. He supports the american people and not corproations. Stop smearing him and calling him a terrorist. All he wants to do is follow the constitution. He is a true patriot and my hero.

“Ah, now I see” thank you for shedding some more light on the situation, but RP’s position and intentions regarding abortion are stated very clearly on his official website and that information is enough for me to vow never to support the man. Also “(cut the baby up as you are giving birth to it)” is a very inaccurate, unfair and misleading statement. I hope you will do your research as well if you do infact care about women. I have.

How about instead of “let the states decide” we let the women decide? It’s not the state’s uterus nor life at risk.

I do wholly agree with RP’s position on income tax and exposing the federal reserve, which is neither federal nor a reserve. And I hope RP stays in the race for a long time so that more Americans can wake up to what’s going on in this country’s government, if we can still call it that. I would love to see him get the republican nomination.

blood for oil: i agree, but i think the issue is that a lot of people, who don’t normally read RS in print or on the web were forwarded here by a message that said, “THESE GUYS ARE SLAMMING RON PAUL!” they had that mindset coming over to the page and they read the article with that mindset. or, in many cases i’m sure, they didn’t read it.

it’s interesting how they haven’t bothered to check back and participate in the new open thread, which says to me that most of those responders are not consistent readers and were forwarded here with a bad taste in their mouth from the start.

and bk: far less than 1 percent of all abortions are because the mother’s life is at risk… it’s extremely rare that a woman would have to give birth at some danger to herself.

and issues regarding privacy and inconvenience are all straw men arguments. the first and only issue that is relevant is whether abortion is the taking of a life. and once you realize that, yes, abortion takes a life — many times a life that can support itself outside the womb — you have to ask, “is it the government’s job to protect life? liberty? property?”

bill hicks thought he had a panacea for the pro-life movement; put 12 unwanted children on the steps of the supreme court. the thing is, those 12 children would be adopted and the pro-life movement would be unfazed.

and if “cutting up a baby” is misleading language, then i encourage you to do a google image search for the word “abortion”… it will be a horrifying one. however, you’ll find that he did not exaggerate.

gravel is for the one world order

which corporation runs rollingstone? i remember when it was less bias

Blood for oil:

“Trying to resolve this inconsistency in my own mind, I am left with two possibilities…”

I think what you’re not realizing is that most of these ‘fans’ have had to go out of their way to expose the ongoing blackout that is the MSMs reaction to the Ron Paul campaign

Case in point, Fox News and their first ‘telephone vote in poll’ after the first round of Republican Debates in South Carolina. Here’s the YouTube link.
/watch?v=J8oO_OD3PtI

These Ron Paul supporters have had to watch as the MSM belittled, twisted, downplayed and flat out ignored anything Ron Paul’s campaign has pulled of.

It’s real simple why these people are upset with Tim’s post.

Once again, Tim and the MSM he represents are trying to TELL us who our candidate will be. They are not not reflecting what the masses are telling them. They are trying to TELL us who it is we can pick. WRONG…

We’ve had to do telephone campaigns just to secure his spot on a debate, we’ve had to host our own rallys in parallel with ongoing rallys. These efforts have resulted in more people showing up for Ron vs the entire population for 5+ other candidates.

And still the MSM refuses to acknowledge this. So… When Timmy here comes along and once again trys to downplay something as amazing as $4.2 million in 1 day, and then goes as far as to refer to our candidate as a TERRORIST! what do you expect? You think we should just roll over and say ‘it’s ok Rolling Stone. I’m sure you were just misinformed’

WRONG. You’re a part of the blackout and now you’ve been outed for all to see.

THAT is why you’re getting 250+ angry responses. We’ve been witnessing things like this sine Ron Paul’s campaign began. Third Tier, not a chance, longshot, darkhorse, terrorist… All labels thrown at Ron from the MSM and none of them are sticking. Simple as that.

Welcome to the Internet generation Timmy. Your reign is over.

whoops I meant to address previous to Mark….

Couldnt wait to get back to the “open forum” to discuss nothing.

There is nothing to discuss on a website who spits agenda like fox and msnbc.

What makes rolling stones journalist any different than any other sold out corporation? Nothing.

Tim you are exposed for what you are. I regret not insulting you further.

“Tim Dickinson | 11/6/2007, 5:37 pm EST

Seriously, doesn’t anyone have anything to say here. Why Ron Paul? What is it about him that makes him the best person to lead the country?”

He is a fierce defender of the constitution (which, btw, our leaders still swear to uphold). He understands and supports the principles in that document, principles that made America great. He understands the dangers of a foreign policy of intervention and who it serves. He opposes the Federal Reserve, the type of privately-owned central bank that Jefferson warned about and Jackson fought against. There’s a limit to how much prosperity can be created by borrowing and printing money – the US is close to that limit, as evidenced by the plumeting dollar. Ron Paul understands this too. In short, he “gets it”.

And, he’s sincere and honest to boot. People who desire liberty are crazy about him. People happy with the status quo are scared to death of him.

That’s what I see in Ron Paul.

This might be a dumb question, but what exactly is MSM? Any google search brings up some chemical compound. I’m just curious as to what the acronym actually stands for.

Main Stream Media

the shapers of ‘common conscience
‘.

Ahh. Thanks, Jed.

Ron Paul may be a patriot for civil liberties, but he makes no mention of the environment, Katrina, the poor and disenfranchised anywhere on his website. He is a big gun nut, and like many gun nuts, thinks that gun ownership has to include handguns and assault weapons. If he picked up a newspaper, he would see that our cops on the streets are armed with 9 mm’s and the criminals are armed to the teeth with AK-47’s and the like. He also seems to think that being an OB/GYN makes him an expert on abortion. Not that any of this matters, but he also has shown no evidence that he has the kind of political skill and guile to handle the myriad of political problems that we have festering in the Middle East. We don’t need someone who is constantly trying to fix the past. We need someone who can anticipate problems and opportunities, and has the kind of vision and competence to manage it all. We need an advocate, a convincer, not a unifier. Republicans have had the reins for too long. Their antiquated thinking brought us the Patriot Act, 9/11 (why do they still get a pass for this happening on their watch?), Katrina, the environment, the war in Iraq, and an a propensity for keeping their friends in the oil junta in the lifestyle they have become accustomed to. Until a great independent comes along, vote Democratic.

Andy,

Clearly you have never read an issue of Rolling Stone.

First, partial birth abortion is exactly as I described it. Wiki definition(I won’t link source because of filter):

“partial live delivery must precede “the overt act, other than completion of delivery, that kills the partially delivered living fetus.”[27] Additionally, a doctor may extract a fetus past the navel and then “disarticulate at the neck”, which could fall within the terms of the statute even though it would not result in an intact body and therefore would not be an intact dilation and extraction.[15]”

Secondly, your point about letting women decide is exactly what allowing individual states to choose means. You don’t seem to understand that this is the best way to let people choose for themselves. What if we had a crazy religious president and congress that passed tough anti abortion federal legislature? Don’t you see that this way ensures that those who want it stand a better chance of having it? You seem to misunderstand that allowing states control increases local womens chance to vote in lawmakers whom they agree with on this issue. It’s simply false to continue to say that ron paul hates women.

“Seriously, doesn’t anyone have anything to say here. Why Ron Paul? What is it about him that makes him the best person to lead the country?”

Here is the reason that I like Ron Paul. He believes in austrian economics, he hates flat currencys, and he would love to get rid of the Federal Reserve and CFR. These are all things I believed in for a while and I’m pretty glad theres a candidate around now with these views.

Plus, Non-Interventionalism is an ideology that was shared by our founding fathers. Thats something that every candidate should believe in.

I like Ron Paul because one of about 2 politicians in DC that are actually honest and stick to their principles instead of placating the immediate audience.

First of all, I feel that this country has been headed in the wrong direction for quite a while now. It has been engrained into us to turn to the Federal Government for support and help. Time and time again we see the inability of Washington to efficiently handle problems, and in some instances, turn them into greater ones. What I like about Ron Paul, is that he will allow the issues to come back to the local level. I feel that the more in depth a problem is, the easier it is to fix, when it is faced at a local, personal level. While I do not agree with Ron Paul on everything, I can see that he is a virtuous, honest person. He represents the honest change that needs to occur in Washington. I have faith that he would surround himself with great people, and that his cabinet would rival that of any other president. Now that it is evident that the has the support needed to win, I am throwing my full support behind him. I will donate my money and time to making sure that this man is elected.

I originally found your “Ron Paul’s $4.2 Million Haul” article through google news.

Ron Paul is a very humble genuine man. Hearing him speak makes me realize he actually believes in what he is saying and isn’t simply saying it because he is trying to get votes. His voting record shows he has supported these ideas for a long time unlike other candidates who will flip flop on issues if they think it will help get votes.

How can someone not be for balancing the budget in a time when the dollar is today worth 1.00 GBP = 2.10431 USD. I don’t even know what the war in IRAQ is for. Why are people dying everyday, what are we fighting for? And now I hear more people talking about attacking Iran because they might have a nuke in 7 years. How is all this going to be paid for, couldn’t the money go to much better things in our own country. I pay loads of taxes every year to pay for these things that I strongly disagree with. Ron Paul is the only man running for president that seems to be thinking about the same exact things I think about everyday.

As a firm believer in the praxeology taught by the Austrian school of economic thought, I believe that Ron Paul would bring about the maximum benefit for myself and the world as a whole.

I know that many people have their doubts about market forces and always believe that selfishness gets in the way of optimal societal progress. I however, believe that there is ample theoretical/empirical arguments to show it is exactly the opposite.

Further, I believe most of the problems people attribute to the market come from government created/protected entities such as giant corporations. If we elect a man who will end this protectionist/corporatism that is plaguing our country many of our problems will be solved.

I have many other reasons to support the man, such as foreign policy, but I believe that all of his beliefs are related to the same underlying axiom.

Well, let’s see. He advocates peace (people not killing other people – for those who don’t know, that’s a good thing.) and he believes role of the military and government is to protect our lives and liberty and not to invade and occupy sovereign nations. He advocates liberty (live and let live, mind your own business, own your own life, do unto other as you would have done unto you – all pretty basic American values.) He recognizes that the devaluation of the dollar and the loss of industry and jobs overseas is killing the middle class and making life virtually impossible for the poor. He doesn’t think that it is a good thing that this country is indebted to foreign countries to the tune of 30 or 40 thousand dollars per citizen. He believes in the rule of law and that the rule of law should apply to everyone including those in power and he believes that the government should serve the interests all of Americans and not just the powerful. and on and on and on. I have to say that anyone who doesn’t get it by now is hopelessly dim.

P.S. to Tim Dickerson

Sorry about the rude attacks on you from some Paul supporters. But the legion of Paul supporters are so tired of hearing that they do not exist or they are nothing more than a computer’s mischievous imagination. And, they are tired of hearing Paul’s common sense and traditional conservatism being labeled nutty and on the fringe.

The problem with the article is the author is apart of the establishment. As part of the establishment, he has become indoctrinated with this idea that the establishment is right, especially on political and economic grounds.

An example would be the gold standard and the FED–this guy is under the impression that the idea of the gold standard and the abolishment of the FED in its current form is ridiculous since the establishment has already decided what is right and what is wrong. And they have decided in favor of the FED and against the gold standard.

This is his frame of reference –it is impossible that the establishment is wrong. Because of this bias, he cannot possibly write a good article.

He won’t even look at history! In our example, the government reports CPI numbers which are ridiculously understated. Never mind that –if we take their numbers and consider them correct, the dollar has lost 97% of its value since the FED was created. The FED was created in 1913. If you look at our history before the FED was created, the dollar actually GAINED a little value from 1790 to 1913.

Whenever you come at something with such a bias, a good opinion is not possible.

It’s amazing that in this day and age, there are still people who think that our GIANT central government works for the best interests of the people. As the central government undermines our currency and involves us in unnecessary wars, our standard of living is going down, down, down.

I support Ron Paul because he believes in the Jeffersonian ideals of a weak central government, sound money, and individual liberty.

Dear dirty dennis,

You have fallen into the hole and can’t get out, lol. Listen to ole Reagan’s 1964 speech regarding a “left and right.” You’ve been tricked into believing that you are part of 1 team, the Democrats, and you have half the people of America with you, and then the other half is a part of the other team. Your job is to beat the other team.

This is the means they have used to JAIL you. You vote for Democrats and believe you win, lol. This is sort of like a fan of a team thinking he wins if his team wins. It is moronic.

Why not vote for the PERSON you want instead of obediently voting for your party, regardless of who they are or what they do? You remind me of a sled dog pulling his master’s sled, lol.

I hope that you have the mental capacity to WAKE UP!

Ron Paul is the only candidate who will keep the draft from coming back in 2008. Wake up people!!! Trust me – you don’t want a written invitation.

my fingertips are still bleeding from yesterday news-blitz, so i’ll keep it short. Ron Paul hasn’t changed his position on any issue for 30 years in public service. you at least know what you get when he’s president. if you like as little as 50% of his views, vote for him. all other candidates tell you anything to get elected and suddenly end up doing something totally different – as in fact all of them have done since they are in politics.

Ron Paul believes our rights derive from our personhood and not from government granting them to us.

Ron believes the government possesses only the limited, enumerated powers expressed in the Constitution.

Ron does not have lobbyists flocking to his office and taking him to expensive luncheons.

Ron’s only desire for the reins of power is that so he can in the end return that power to the people.

Ron is a man of the people, for the people.

Ron Paul has the one thing that has been sorely missing from the Oval Office. Honesty. That’s the main driving force for me and many other people. We might not agree on all the issues but we sure know that what Dr. Paul says is the truth! Oh, and ending the war is kinda important too

Thanks Tim,
Aside from the second appearance of the word “this” in your second sentence [LOL], I find your brief article well written, non-offensive, and enjoyable. I’ve been a hardcore Paul supporter since I cast my vote for him in 1988. I sympathize with the many current Paul supporters around me who worry heavily about the collapse of our republic and often seem over-sensitive to how Paul is treated in the media. I simply take the lead from Dr. Paul and tell my worried friends to lighten up and have fun. Negative press is to be brushed off. Your article bears no negativity. I am also somewhat amazed that at this day and age, a Republican Presidential candidate can receive such a bundle of money on a day that alludes to Guy Fawkes. I’m a Barry Golwater conservative. I think Mr. Goldwater would have found it to be hilarious. For many reasons I believe the Reagan gig destroyed conservative politics in America, but that’s another story. I tell people who are currently waking up to politics to understand how I, being such a conservative, was compelled to vote for Ralph Nader for President a couple times. Dr. Paul, Nader, Kucinich, Gravel, and Pat Buchanan all bear integrity and are identical down deep at the core: get the Constitution back online, and restore the Republic. Until this is done there are no differences between these people. Back in 2000, I slobbered at the fantasy of Nader and Buchanan uniting onto one ticket. In a sane United States these two would be running against each other for President as the Democrat and Republican nominees. Oh well! On a lighter note I will make a silly prediction: [short of Ron Paul winning the Presidency next year] that in the year 2013, December 23rd shall be declared an international holiday… and probably be named “Simon Bar Sinister Day”!
Sincerely,
Jumpin John

Dallas | 11/7/2007, 11:31 am EST

This might be a dumb question, but what exactly is MSM? …

“Main Stream Media” a good place to get fear.

to address anyone concerned about ron paul’s stand about abortion or the environment, please search for “The YouTube Interview: Ron Paul”. it clarifies things.

thanks tim. i think you probably blew some minds by doing this.

I support Ron Paul because he is consistent and easily has the most logical world view.

And the places I don’t agree with him, I can, from taking his writings and speeches understand why he takes a particular position on an issue. He has a near 30 year record of saying what he stands for and never wavering. I know if he says something, he’s telling me the truth.

He is the most honest, logical and lucid of all the candidates. I agree with him on foreign policy, economics and most social matters. I used to disagree with him on economic issues but his writings and speeches have convinced me. I think the further people look into what he is saying, they will be impressed by his logic. No other presidential candidate in recent memory has a better command of history or economics.

I’ve seen talking heads on TV say him a radical because he is honest and speaks about things we’ve done wrong. To me this just show how sad our state of affairs are currently. “He’s speaking the truth?! Somebody, stop him, he’s a radical!”

Consider this about or foreign policy: How many other crediable presidential candidates can or will mention how we unfairly and imorrally interfere in other countries on a regular basis? How many will admit that we act like England a century ago?

To secure business interests, one of the justification used was that they were bringing “civilization” to the world. In our case, we’re bring democracy to the middle east– The people in charge say we’re not there for the oil at all, which everyone knows is a complete lie.

Just the other day, Ron Paul correctly referred to Pervez Musharaff as a puppet dictator that we support with $10 billion a year in aid. He said this on national TV. No other candidate has the guts to say that we act like some kind of ruling hedgemony and that is why muslims attacked us. He is who he is, and he will say what he has to say, gallup polls be damned.

We hear people in power speak out about how evil the regime in Iran is while ignoring that compared to Saudi Arabia, it is a modern paradise. The Saudis have funded and produced more terrorists than any other country in the world. But people are freaking out about Iran– A country we gave a nuclear reactor to in 1968, when another puppet we controlled, the Shah, was in power. He is the only that points this out.

Ron Paul is the only candidate in this race that speaks sense.

Anybody that has doubts about him. I ask that you research him, you’ll find everything I’ve typed above is true. I ask that you support an honest and good man. If you already support him, give him money. If you already gave money, join a meetup group and go out in the street and pass out homemade flyers.

Thousands are already out there, they want to take back the country from lobbyists and political hacks, all you have to do is join them.

If you think that the bureacracies, lobbyists, the hacks are too much in number, don’t fret at all. Just get started. People need to remember this very important fact: There are more of us than there are of them.

No matter what happens, this won’t end with Ron Paul. It will continue and grow. Be a part of it.

Kaveh,

You probably don’t visit this site much. I’ve expounded my rationale many times in the past and see no need to belabor the ‘regulars’ with a rehash. Read past posts and then get back to me.

As to voting the person, I always have: Kennedy was a breath of fresh air, Nixon was the REAL Darth Vader, Reagan was a clueless dimwit and the Bush Boys pawns of some darker force. So, are we okay on the choices of people?

As to Ron Paul, he may be all everyone says, and more. Of course, he’s only represented a small district, never actually led on anything that I’ve heard of, has been bereft of the need to actually fight for his job and, finally, if elected would bring with him … what? More Dick Cheneys? More Pearle, Wolfowitz. More reactionary supreme court judges? More erosion of civil liberties?

If he’s elected, who’s going to be his Secretary of Homeland Security? Attorney General? Secretary of Defense? State? What, he’s going to dip into his vast pool of contacts and pull a rabbit out of the hat? No, he has to turn to the party that brought us the last 20 years of imperialism and outsourcing of jobs.

I DID wake up Kaveh and realized ANYone but a Con. I suppose with you drifting around in the ether, it would appear I’m in a hole, but, in fact, I have both feet on the ground. Oops, here comes the Cons; turn around and bend over, they ‘want’ you.

Hee Hee Hee!!

dr. paul has cured me of my political apathy. most of his positions just make sense; if it doesn’t i do research on it further and ultimately find his solutions to be very intelligible. he is honest and principled and has been walking the walk and talking the talk for decades. who would you rather have for a president, a lawyer? lobbyist? career politician? or a doctor/economist/constitutiona l scholar/veteran with decades of federal government experience?

easy choice for me.

Mike Gravel everyone!

I have talked to Ron Paul
since 1982, and he has always
been forthright and consistently
for the Constitution and American
Liberty. He is America’s ONLY hope
after Jesus.

I have talked to Ron Paul
since 1982, and he has always
been forthright and consistently
for the Constitution and American
Liberty. He is America’s ONLY hope
after Jesus.

I have talked to Ron Paul
since 1982, and he has always
been forthright and consistently
for the Constitution and American
Liberty. He is America’s ONLY hope
after Jesus.

I have talked to Ron Paul
since 1982, and he has always
been forthright and consistently
for the Constitution and American
Liberty. He is America’s ONLY hope
after Jesus.

WOW!!!

Now, Is he trying to blow smoke up my ass or is he that deluded?

Has anyone met a politician who said he was against the constitution and for incarceration and dissolution of american’s rights?
Dubya would have never told us that yet we still got exactly that.

No hard feelings for painting a fundraising record “in honor of a terrorist, anarchist, antihero.”

Here, here, take my SCREW YOU branch.

Do an National Affairs feature on Mike Gravel…He should be the ideal “Hippy Candidate”…He ended the drart, fought to end nuclear bomb testing, and wants to legalize weed…What more do you want?

DD, I cannot tell you how depressed your mentality makes me. You’ve been so wrapped up in this partisan political struggle that you don’t seem to see that these two parties are just the political equivalent of good cop bad cop. Guess who the suspect is?

Coke versus Pepsi

Brad vidmar, i agee about Mike Gravel, i like him and agree with him on most issues. Hes not crazy he kept the liberal ideals and is a better candidate than hes given credit for.

Shapeshifter,

Your point? I have to conjure that it is to throw up one’s hands and admit defeat. I don’t recall touting the Dems as being ‘the answer.’ My mantra has been and always shall be, “ANYone but a Con.” I think I’ve expounded on the whys and wherefores sufficiently in the past that I don’t need to belabor the regulars with another take on it.

I am a bleeding-heart, liberal progressive. I apologize for the redundancy, but emphasis added. I believe that gov’t is an instrument of the people who’s primacy is in defending the people. Often from themselves, but more often, from itself and, for lack of a better term, big business. In my youth I was borderline pink, but I was naïve then.

I can’t begin to tell you how depressed your lack of insight and imagination make me. If you care to take this whole subject on, including a few of the other regulars, I’m more than obliging. But please don’t write me off simply because I don’t meet your ‘expectations.’ (And I, conversely, will TRY to grant others the same courtesy. Okay, maybe not DWM.)

The US people have been lied to and disrespected by the media and the government for so long, when given a chance – looks like they will bite back HARD!

Nice to see folks being held accountable for every word. Call me radical, but cute analogies and disrespectful tones don’t go over well when discussing a Presidential candidate. Specifically, one that resonates with the core foundation of the USA.

Keeps the hacks on their toes, even if their intent was entertainment. But this is serious stuff. Media needs to wake up and be respectful of the message and the man that brings it.

I love what Ron Paul is already doing to my perception of the USA. A revolution of couch potatoes. Never thought I’d live to see the day. Ron Paul has my vote and every cent I can muster.

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The people know too much,
democracy rising democracy now.
Rage against the machine.

Honesty compassion intelligence guts.

No more extortion blackmail bribery division.
Divided we fall.

I have a framed copy of Rolling Stone November 9, 1967 VOL.I, No.I on my wall next to me as i write this. The cover is John Lennon in the movie “What did you do in the war, Daddy?” The irony as I look from the spirit of the magazine then to the one today is bitter and extreme.

We were engaged in an unjust war, but the spirit spreading through the country was fueled by the hope that fundamental change was possible, and the word “revolution” was used with excitement. And Rolling Stone was helping to carry the banner.

And now? Well, I suppose that since the magazine abandoned any pretense of challenging the establishment long ago, it’s time for a new medium to step in and pick up that banner. It’s called the internet, and it publishes itself. Welcome to the ashcan of history.

I didn’t go through all of the posts, and maybe its been mentioned before, but I think a wise article for Rolling Stone in the future would be on the Fed. The magazines does have some great political pieces, and would provide great insight into this entity. We’ve heard plenty of the evils of the Bush administration (and the portraits painted by the magazine are accurate), and the impending collapse of the environment. How about something that will collapse much sooner, the American dollar? Apparently Jay-Z is aware that the dollar is losing its status, with him flashing Euros in his new video and all. Of couse the Paul Patrol is attracted to his amazingly consistent anti Iraq-war message. However, isn’t there something to be said about the fervor that the Paul Patrol gives to its criticism of the Fed? Its really a subject that Rolling Stone could tear into, first with it not being federal in the least and holding no reserves at all. It does seem hopelessly outdated to have a “gold standard,” I thought so at first. It just seems like such an old fashioned solution to the monetary crisis that our country is facing. However, if one looks just a little deeper, it might not be so crazy after all. (Of course it doesn’t have to be just gold, but hard assests that would include other commodities.) At least Paul is offering a solution and looking at facts. Above all, there is something to what Dr. Paul is saying, definitely with his insightful criticism of the Fed.

I didn’t go through all of the posts, and maybe its been mentioned before, but I think a wise article for Rolling Stone in the future would be on the Fed. The magazines does have some great political pieces, and would provide great insight into this entity. We’ve heard plenty of the evils of the Bush administration (and the portraits painted by the magazine are accurate), and the impending collapse of the environment. How about something that will collapse much sooner, the American dollar? Apparently Jay-Z is aware that the dollar is losing its status, with him flashing Euros in his new video and all. Of couse the Paul Patrol is attracted to his amazingly consistent anti Iraq-war message. However, isn’t there something to be said about the fervor that the Paul Patrol gives to its criticism of the Fed? Its really a subject that Rolling Stone could tear into, first with it not being federal in the least and holding no reserves at all. It does seem hopelessly outdated to have a “gold standard,” I thought so at first. It just seems like such an old fashioned solution to the monetary crisis that our country is facing. However, if one looks just a little deeper, it might not be so crazy after all. (Of course it doesn’t have to be just gold, but hard assests that would include other commodities.) At least Paul is offering a solution and looking at facts. Above all, there is something to what Dr. Paul is saying, definitely with his insightful criticism of the Fed.

another fund-raising record day. tea-party 6 mil. no story?

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Who else EXCEPT Ron Paul offers a real plan for peace and prosperity, i.e. bring troops home and cut federal spending? Ignore either and we risk bankruptcy, perpetual war, or both. Plus he doesn’t flip-flop, married 50 years, McCain calls him “the most honest man in Congress” — what more do you want?

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You have a nice forum.

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Everything will be ok, no matter what!
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