PS If I was ‘move on’ I’d be worried GenP might point his finger at me, even in jest. His Pit Bulls aren’t that good at distinguishing the difference between sincerity and jest.

RB,

It’s my belief that the few in the military who question orders are the exception that prove the rule. That’s one of the ‘attractions.’ Three squares, a roof, medical, retirement and no responsibility, other than that to the hand that feeds you and for most that’s nominal.

Having had the ignoble experience of basic training twice in a five year span, I can tell you that there’s much more than that. Combat vets can tell you even more chilling stories. My Lai was not an aberration. In my second ‘tour,’ I was ticketed for Nam and those in my group were already listing who we’d have to kill to survive. That’s mostly facetious ‘cause the Army spreads out assignment so you practically never see your training mates again. Probably for that very reason. I have no doubt my name was on the other group’s list.

Anyway, in our ‘training,’ the enemy was portrayed to be subhuman, sadistic, ruthless and stupid, unless it was to the advantage of the training regiment to portray them as cunning. I have no doubt that Al-Qaeda trainers portray American troops as subhuman, sadistic, ruthless and stupid, unless it’s to their … well, you get the picture. War reduces everyone to the same level.

Unlike the trained lawyers he’s debating with, Gov. Bill Richardson is less polished in debates, it’s true. However, these soundbites show he’s a smart man with a sense of humor. And the fact that he’s presented himself well at the negotiating table, securing release of hostages in Iraq, Sudan, N. Korea and other places, garnering 4 Nobel Peace Prize nominations, shows he has the eloquence to represent us well on the world stage, something our nation needs right now.

That sure is one clever soundbite, with that kind of aptitude who knows what he might accomplish as President.

Droll Ole

O’M’God

We’re screwed. Rudy’s discovered Shrub’s secret. Parade your ignorance and bias and the Right will eat it up.

Quoting the NYT, “Rudolph W. Giuliani started things off last night, throwing some big chunks of red meat to the party faithful over dinner. He had lots of applause lines, especially when he laced into Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton and when he linked her to MoveOn.org, the liberal anti-war group that has attacked General David Petraeus, the American commander in Iraq.

He called MoveOn.org “the biggest single proponent of the politics of character assassination in the history of this country.” Several people stood and applauded.

And he said that Mrs. Clinton “reinforced” MoveOn’s message when she told General Petraeus during a Senate hearing that his report on progress in Iraq required “a willing suspension of disbelief.”

Mr. Giuliani mocked the phrase as if it had been Mrs. Clinton’s own creation, although it was coined in the early 1800s by Samuel Taylor Coleridge, the poet.

“It took me an hour just to figure out what a willful suspension of disbelief was,” he said. “This is a Clintonian expression,” he declared, to peals of laughter. He said that most people would be more straightforward in their use of language and simply say, “He’s not telling the truth.”

“She should be ashamed of herself for doing it,” he said.

Reagan, Bush, Bush, Rudy, is there no end to these Idiots?

Hmm, if Hillary’s can be called a Clintonian expression, even if she was quoting someone else, can’t his be called Rudyesque?

I see where Shrub said he was ‘disgusted’ by the move on ad. Wow, if he’s disgusted at THAT, then no one must have told him that over 100K+ Iraqis are dead because he invaded that country. Or else ….

Ultra Maroon!!

DoubleD: You know the old saying: “Patriotism is the last resort of a scoundrel.” Kinda sums up the whole last 7 years, huh?
Rather than debate the theme of the MoveOn ad, they’d rather just say “How dare you”. But, the theme was still relevant and valid.

I’d be a little more impressed by Richardson’s sound bites if he had performed his duties as Governor of New Mexico a little more diligently following the literaly incredible results posted in the presidential election of ‘04.

Precincts using the Danaher Shouptronic and Sequoia Advantage electronic voting systems produced some of the following weird results, with no followup from the Governor.

White precincts somehow delivered 110 more votes for presidential candidates than ballots cast, while Native American and other minority precincts reported 5.5% undervoting for President. Normal statistics are 0.5% undervote across the board for President.

Those precincts using paper ballots and optical readers met normal expectations. Only the Electronic machines were out of statistical bounds.

Out of 756,348 ballots cast, Bush beat Kerry by 5,047 votes. Democratic Governor Richardson declined to pursue an investigation. Bush picked Richardson last year to go to North Korea to negotiate with Kim etc over nuclear limitations. The only Democrat Bush has picked in my memory to perform any act on behalf of the Bush administration, at a time Richardson was building his campaign organization for the current primary campaign.

Applicants for menial service jobs in Iraq had at least say they voted for Bush in the last election to get hired. What did Richardson do to get hired to go to North Korea on behalf of Bush?

Nativity,

Good stuff. I checked Wikipedia and it said NK requested Bill as a negotiator. Make of that what you will.

As you point out, there are some questions, but I don’t think it’s red flag stuff. Of interest, he went to work for Kissinger after Bush was elected. You can say that’s bad stuff OR good. He’s got a track record as a negotiator, which is probably good stuff. VP timber? Who am I kidding. Anyone would kill to have him on their ticket.

Richardson is by far the best Democratic candidate at this time.