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Candidate Fred Thompson, Or Why Rudy Giuliani Is Smiling

9/6/07, 6:01 pm EST

The Fred Thompson moment, if there ever was one, is already passed. It’s strange how passed-the-sell-by-date his candidacy already feels. A lazy-man’s John McCain to start with, I can’t see Hollywood Fred catching fire… or really even sending off sparks.

But his candidacy is fantastic news for Mr. 9/11. And here’s why:

The under-the-radar candidacy of Flip Romney has actually been doing very well for itself. He’s the frontrunner in Iowa. And New Hampshire is literally his back yard. He’s no favorite in Dixie, largely because of his heathen LDS religion. But talking with religious leaders, in particular the Dr. Richard Land of the Southern Baptists’ political arm, Mitt’s Mormonism is a lot more tolerable than Rudy’s rocky personal life.

So fast forward to whenever it is that these ever-accelerated primaries and caucuses get going: Mitt takes Iowa and wins New Hampshire running away. Without Thompson in the race, Mitt stood a pretty decent chance of capturing South Carolina too. With that kind of momentum, it’s not hard to imagine Romney up on the podium in Minneapolis accepting the GOP nomination.

But that dream bites it with Thompson in the race. I’m not sure he’ll convince the hard-core religious right of any deeply held religiosity. But his Southern style and wit will make him very hard to beat in the Palmetto state. And a win by Thompson in South Carolina would substantially muddy the electoral waters going into Tsunami Tuesday on Feb. 5.

Instead of a media narrative about Mitt The Unstoppable, you’re going to have the pundits anxiously anticipating how Rudy the social moderate is going to fare in the friendly, delegate-rich contests of California, New York and Illinois.

In basketball terms, Fred sets the pick on Mitt, and Rudy rolls to the lane for what is suddenly a much easier shot at the nomination. Rudy’s still clumsy enough to clank it off the rim. But if he loses it won’t be Fred Thompson’s fault.


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jrcutler | 9/6/2007, 11:14 pm EST

bravo on the analyzation. You couldn’t be more correct about it.

rustin | 9/7/2007, 12:07 am EST

how about the rolling stones quit talking about all 3 and start talking about RON PAUL!!!!!! Does anyone actually google this guy and listen to what he has to say; and if so don’t you realize how much more integrity he has then, well, anyone else?

rustin | 9/7/2007, 12:11 am EST

I haven’t searched in the last 2 weeks on how the “straw” polls are going, but last time I checked Ron Paul has won 3 of the 4, the only other one going to Mitt Romney in Iowa. Also, last time I checked Diebold runs the machines in Iowa.

rustin | 9/7/2007, 12:13 am EST

delete my first message if you want, since it is “off-topic,” but I think my second post is right-on topic.

Nor Laup | 9/7/2007, 4:09 am EST

Ron Paul? Well… this was about Fred Thompson… but Yes. I have read up on the man. And let me say many of his supporters are doing him a great disservice… for one… they seldom if ever talk about Ron Paul… they only recite the CFR attacking points toward the other candidates… (and many have no idea what CFR even stands for… one told me a few weeks back that it stood for Campaign Finance Reform) and two… what is all this 911 Truther crap? I mean it’s great if you subscribe to the Rosie O’Donnell school of physics & engineering… but Ron Paul doesn’t believe any of that crap so why do his supporters? He’s already said in several debates that the terrorists came over here to kill us because we were bombing them. Is it any wonder the Ron Paul folks come across as a bunch of whack jobs?

Straw Polls? He only lost in Iowa? He placed 6th in South Dakota. And did you forget about Texas? What happened in Texas? Fred Thompson kicked Ron Paul’s butt in The Texas Straw Poll… Ron Paul’s own state? Did you forget to check that one? And Fred didn’t even campaign in Texas, actually he wasn’t even a candidate, ouch, that has to sting, oh right, but as you state, if you lost,then the election has to be rigged, and just to prove it you guys always win the online polls, right?

If you guys do as well in real life voting as you do with all the virtual polls then the issue will be settled… Ron Paul will become the 44th President of the United Sates. But you guys are already starting to cry “rig!” After all, the online polls are accurate, but the actual elections where you have to register to vote, those are just so easy to tamper with. In reality it’s just the opposite. If the real election was easy to tamper with, Ron Paul would win in a landslide.

Finally, regarding Ron Paul, his theory is if the terrorists don’t want us to be somewhere then we need to just abide by their wishes and leave? He thinks as long as we don’t bother them, they won’t bother us right? He probably developed this foreign policy from his mother. Since he was much smaller than the other kids, his mommy told him to stay away from the big kids and nothing will happen. And if they bother you don’t fight back. Just come home and we’ll move to another city and hope they don’t follow. Is that the extent of Paul’s Policy with regard to Terrorists?

The good news is, you won’t have to vote for Fred Thompson in the general election. The bad news is if you don’t, you’ll have to vote for Hillary… because Ron Paul won’t be a choice.
Straw Polls? He only los in Iowa? What happened in Texas? Fred Thompson kicked Ron Pauls butt in The Texas Straw Poll… Ron Paul’s own state? Did you forget to check that one? And Fred didn’t even campaign in Texas, actually he wasn’t even a candidate, ouch, that has to sting, oh right, but as you state,if you lost,then the election has to be rigged, and just to prove it you guys always win the online polls, right?

If you guys do as well in real life voting as you do with all the virtual polls then the issue will be settled… Ron Paul will become the 44th President of the United Staes.

Unless of course you feel the election is going to be rigged, I guess you can start that thread just in case right, after all the online polls are accurate, but the actual elections where you have to register to vote, those are just so easy to tamper with.

Finally, regarding Ron Paul, his theory is if the terrorists don’t want us to be somewhere then we need to just abide by their wishes and leave, afterall as long as we don’t bother them, they won’t bother us right?

If you guys don’t like Fred Thompson you can always vote for Hillary in the General Election.

bodm | 9/7/2007, 6:42 am EST

First things first Tim, your obviously an idiot.Before you run off at the gills you should probably do a little investigative work about the candidates you talk about.Then just maybe you would not sound like such an idiot. You obviously watch fox news for your information. Keep up the hard work maybe one day you will write something that desrves to be printed.
But hey you keep on writing like a liberal, maybe you will enjoy Hillary bending you over.

rustin | 9/7/2007, 11:37 am EST

whoops double post

reasons for publicity | 9/7/2007, 1:51 pm EST

Rustin, you must realize that most of us have misguided notions or none at all about Dr. Paul. This is because most media we are shown is determined by the people in charge, who are very well connected and have a lot invested in how this country is run. You will see NBC, ABC FOX news and others lying about poll results (internet polls or straw polls) more often than not when it gives Ron Paul more coverage.

The only way to get a 3rd party candidate(and believe me, he is a libertarian or at least a constitutionist) any chance of public exposure is through outlets not controlled by people with a vested interest in perpetuating a two party system. People like Murdock would rather see a democrat in the white house because at least then the system is still going. It is so much easier to control how things work when there are only two parties which usually only have minor differences. Of course, there are plenty of influences so you can’t expect to see each candidate with exactly the same views. Different groups put more money and effort into different candidates to help further their own interests so there are some meaningful differences between them, but when you have an outsider like Ron Paul, who would not be bought or give out political favors, then these interests get very wary.

So, if you want to see more coverage, you have to do it yourself mostly. As more and more people become aware, the groups that manage and shape candidates and influence election outcomes have less and less control. Media coverage has to be granted, poll results corrected, misinformation retracted.

Make no mistake, this is part of a much larger on going power struggle. Ron Paul is just the latest thorn ripping at the ever tightening bonds around the us citizens. He will reclaim a vast amount of control that politicians, businessmen, religious groups and other groups with power to influence things. He will remove anything not permitted by the constitution and not try to control our lives. This is exactly what these groups don’t want.

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DirtyDennis | 9/8/2007, 9:14 am EST

That’s some scenario Tim. It will be interesting to see if it plays out.

Word | 9/9/2007, 2:31 am EST

I doubt Fred Thompson won’t be laughed off the national stage after the Times report today showed he advised the Lybian terrorists who blew up Pan Am Flight 103 in 1988.

Let’s see, this guy advises abortionists and terrorists and he’s seeking to even influence the 2008 election? Please. But hell, southerners have proven thier idiocy before. In this country apparently there’s ample opportunity to repeat one’s own mistakes five or six million times.

Let Them Eat Cake | 9/10/2007, 3:32 am EST

Yea, let’s have No Government and let Private Business to “handle everything”. Privatization has worked so well in Energy, Health care and, Wars…

sigh | 9/10/2007, 6:14 pm EST

Why oh why are my posts removed? No insults to any posters here, no “bad words” and no insults to general groups(ie racism, sexism etc).

Besides attacking false information and irrational ideas, I don’t see what else would warrant these being removed.

Let Them Eat Cake | 9/12/2007, 10:27 pm EST

Privatization does not work-we are living the Republican Dream-er, nightmare.

Katrina, the airlines, energy, health care, the military are Prime examples of privatizing…

“For Profit” kills it every time…

The greedy and most inept, inexperienced, cheapest paid employees get hired-executive greed and less regulation create chaos and danger!

Number | 9/25/2007, 11:19 pm EST

To Word,

I would love to know if you acctually read that times article, because I highly doubt you did. Here’s a direct quote from that article (just in case you forgot)
“A little over three years after Pan Am Flight 103 blew up over Lockerbie, Scotland, Fred D. Thompson provided advice to a colleague about one of his law firm’s new clients: The man representing the two Libyan intelligence officials charged in the terrorist bombing…The firm was hired to provide guidance on the tense questions surrounding where the two men should be tried”

So as you can see Thompson did not advise lybian terrorists as you claim. No, he mearly consulted a lawyer assighned to help handle where the trial would take place. I dont know about anyone else but I would hardly call that advising terrorists.

The fact of the matter is Fred Thompson is the only real conservative in the republican race who has a chance and if the party wants to have chance in ‘08 based on its traditional principles, Fred is the man.

Number | 9/25/2007, 11:24 pm EST

I am posting a second comment just in case it is seen as off-topic I dont want my previous post to be deleted because of this one section.

As for the commentary on polls. Anyone who trusts 1. Straw Polls, or 2. Online polls really needs to learn statistics.

Straw polls are unscientific and basicly either those who are paid for their vote, or those who really are passionate about something are the only ones to participat. This gives skewed results.

As for online the same thing goes. Only the people who really feel compelled or are just plain bored will click the button that says “Take poll now” think about it.

If you really want accurate info go to Rasmussen or Gallup they acctually have a science to their polls and are acctually respected.

kench weathers | 9/28/2007, 5:14 am EST

ron paul 2008

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