What republican in a tight race for re-election next year thought this up?

I’m surprised Giuliani didn’t do the same thing just after 9/11. At least then it would’ve made sense.

How long are they gonna keep riding this thing anyway?

How about we declare war on stupid things people declare war on. Oh wait you cant. You can only declare war on other countries, and occupy other countries. Maybe someone should clue these idiots in.

what do you mean? War on…
…drugs
…poverty
. ..crime

Can you declare war on war? what about war on guns?

what do you mean? War on…
…drugs
…pover ty
. ..crime

Can you declare war on war? what about war on guns?

what do you mean? War on…
…drugs
… pover ty
. ..crime

Can you declare war on war? what about war on guns?

what do you mean? War on…
…drugs
… pover ty
. ..crime

Can you declare war on war? what about war on guns?

what do you mean? War on…
… drugs
… pover ty
. ..crime

Can you declare war on war? what about war on guns?

what do you mean? War on…
… drugs
… pover ty
. ..crime

Can you declare war on war? what about war on guns?

getting repetitive huh?

OKLAHOMA? why didn’t they put a picture of the murra building on the plate?

In Minnesota, we have “Support the Troops” license plates — red, white and blue, of course, with a bald eagle and an American flag, etc. Most of the money you pay for the plates actually goes toward veterans programs, though, which I think is entirely appropriate. These plates, on the other hand, are obviously intended to serve the far right-wing political agenda.

But if they had a Muslim Plate that would be acceptable, Right?

It’s a license plate people. Don’t we have more pressing issues to worry about in the world?

911 was the worst tragedy since the civil war. It should not be forgotten. If Oklahomans want a comemorative tag thats good,however a plain tag should be available too.

SEMPER FI!

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!

Hallzee
It’d be nice if you could inform us of a time when we DON’T have other pressing issues. People kill me when they say things like that. “Doesn’t congress have better things to do than to investigate baseball?” Ok, somebody show me the list of “things to do”.
There will ALWAYS be something more important. I’d like to see your list of priorities that congress should look at. Oh yeah, you’d probably eliminate congress and just have a king and his court.

When was the last time you saw a progressive license plate?

Oh, yeah. Florida has an I LOVE THE ARTS plate. Oh well, one out of 35 ain’t bad.

Can’t wait to travel thru Oklahoma looking for these. LOL!!!

Bender,

I guess a list of priorities for Congress would start with How to get out of Iraq, Immigration, Homeland Security, etc. I just think a License Plate would be low on the list. Of course, what has this new Democratic Congress done for the last 8 months? Anyone? Anyone?

David,
Out here on the Left Coast we have plenty of Global Warming and Save the Whales Progressive Type License Plates we can pay extra for, if we choose to.

I think people need to remember 9/11 because so many have blown it off. Many have begun to think of those who attacked us as the victim rather than those who were killed

Again, it’s a license plate! Who Cares? Tim is far too gifted a writer to write about License plates.

I’ll admit it does look like a phony attempt at patriotic pandering by the republican party (whom I have no doubt came up with the idea) but it’s still better then the “pro-life” license plates we have here in Missouri.

The plate should read: “Global War of Terrorism”

DOES THIS MEAN?? COULD IT BE??
DARE I SAY IT??

HELL YES!!
I CAN NOW USE MY .50 CAL ELECTRIC GATLIN GUN AS A HOOD ORNAMENT!!
FROM THIS DAY FORWARD,, ROAD RAGE WILL TAKE ON A WHOLE NEW MEANING!!!

What americans missed in your country was WW1 & WW11 on your front door. Yes, you had 9/11 and you sent plenty of folk overseas earlier. (so did canada, NZ, Australia, UK, etc. check the % per pop figures) The rest of us know that to negociate & avoid violence is the best way forward. Best, burton

cant really negotiate those two towers back now can we? Not that I agree with the occupation, but you have to realize that it is naive at best to think simply renouncing violence will prevent one from becoming a victim of violence. The best defense is a strong capacity for violence and a will to use it coupled with a desire for peaceful resolutions first.

Where the US government has gone wrong is to invite violence through belligerent actions of our own first through provocation and oppression of other countries.

True that. The US government likes to meddle with other countries, and some people just want to be left alone. Imperial expansion may be over in the traditional sense, but we still find ways of controlling and influencing other countries.

Peace,

I couldn’t agree more. But what you define/describe doesn’t sound like pacificity. But then, I couldn’t find that word in the online dictionaries, so I can’t be sure. I have a feeling it has to do with pacifism and I’m very sure what you were saying was contrary to that.

Sooner or later this little experiment we’re all a part of is going to require that all nations/peoples interact/coexist. The roles have always been of dominator/oppressed. Current U.S. imperialism is a little more ‘civilized’ than in the past, faint praise indeed but at least it’s a measure of progress.

With the Idiots In Charge, however, one can’t be sure.

These countries that you say prefer to be left alone seem to be the first on the phone to the US when they need help. The US can always depend on these countries when they need us.

Hell I am surprised that they even spelled Oklahoma correctly.

Dennis, that was tongue in cheek. I was pointing out how silly burtons position was, not to mention out right dangerous. Pacifism results in innocents dying just as easily as the other extreme does. Readiness to fight back rather than “avoiding violence” is essential to negotiation.

Peace/Sarcasm,

I had a hunch that was your intent. Just wanted you to know some among read these posts, not look at them. Hmmm, am I looking under a rock with that thought?

History has taught us we must be ready to fight. History has also taught us that all too often we are all too eager to fight. And while I understand that being ‘on the top’ of the heap carries with it the necessity to defend that position, I wish to God we weren’t so clumsy and stupid about it. Being ‘on the top’ carries with it responsibility and the necessity of wisdom.

Simply shouting to those below you that, “WE’LL BOMB YOU BACK TO THE STONE AGES IF YOU DON’T BEHAVE,” is not, to my way of thinking, a demonstration of responsibility and/or wisdom. ‘Real men’ don’t have to flex their muscles and remind folks how strong they are.

burton, france – Hey that negotiating worked real well with Hitler didn’t it? What were Chamberlain’s famous words? “Peace in our time”. Yea worked real well.

Piggy,

Still up to your old tricks, I just LOVE how you guys like to trot out Neville Chamberlain whenever you want to portray liberals as ‘soft.’ As if there’s ANY validity to the position OR relevance to anything happening today.

To begin with, Chamberlain was a Conservative. Not that has any bearing, but just thought it would be interesting fodder. He became Prime Minister a year before the Munich meeting and died two years following. When the Conservatives, who were all for appeasing Hitler at the time, in England AND in this country, were looking around to deflect the blame, who better than dead and gone Chamberlain to point their collective fingers at. Banks in this country were financing Hitler and making big money. They didn’t want to see their gravy train interrupted. (Then or now, I might add.)

Following WWI, England and France, the only two countries with any chance of ‘controlling’ Hitler, had allowed their armies to lapse into nada. Chamberlain was following the only option available to him: buying time. Hitler had a ‘modern,’ military machine. True, there’s no telling what might have happened had England had a ‘real man’ for PM. But given the sentiment in this country at the time, if England had gotten belligerent, there wasn’t a snowball’s chance in hell this country would have helped them.

And in case you missed it, it was the Liberal FDR who didn’t want to appease Hitler. But even he would have probably given Hitler Czechoslovakia as well. What was the rest of Europe and/or the U.S. to do, call up the fusiliers? So please, lay off the revisionist history. As for his comment about, “…peace in our time,” just what would you have had him say? And if you want to play that game, I can always trout out the, “…light at the end of the tunnel.” How’d THAT work out? At least we ‘won’ WWII.

Pig
Are you saying it might be better to take the position of the United States in 2007 than France (or Poland, Czechoslovakia, ect.) in the late 1930s? You seriously think it might be better to NOT let your country get trampled and ravaged so you can stick to non-practical ideals? What a cocky, Republican bastard. (Sarcasm, of course)

Look, ideally we never fight because everyone is reasonable and problems can be settled in a civilized way. Not everyone is reasonable or civilized, however. Idealism without realism is void.

By the way, good posts Peace/Sarcasm.

human beings have a great capacity for self delusion. They can’t even accept that they and their divorce from nature is causing the death of the only known living planet. It’s like theyire infected with a virus or something that doesn’t let them see truth or the true nature of our enemy. What’s that line… “I saw the enemy and it is ourselves”, or something like that?

Jed,

It was Pogo: “I have seen the enemy and it is us.”

Humans are like medflies. They use up one planet and then move on to the next. Hopefully, I won’t be around to see the demise of this one.

it’s not the humans. and what is being done is turn heaven into hell. THey love that negative energy, those of us that remember the past know that it’s not the way it was and definately not the way it should be. Plenty of us have seen the true reason for our apparent suicidal streak.

Jed,

You’ll note something very specific about the Oklahoma plate. It’s NOT ‘The War On Terrorism,’ it’s ‘The GLOBAL War On Terrorism.’ My, my, how convenient. That’s a license to go anywhere in the world and do anything we want to anyone who gets in our way. All in the ‘good’ name of the ‘good’ war. Sortta like the war on drugs. How’d that turn out, anyway? Or the war on crime, the war on sin and/or sex. This country sure likes to wage war.

The best part of ‘this’ war is it’s far away, out of sight and, by the way, a cloak for Imperialism, plain and simple. If we REALLY wanted to make ‘the people’ safe, shouldn’t we be creating a ‘Fortress America?’ Wouldn’t be hard to do and it’d be a HELL of a lot cheaper.

Of course, then the powerbrokers wouldn’t be able to play their games. It’s a lot more fun to go traipsing around the world, pushing around the natives, than it is to stay home and do the hard work to make this country safe and prosperous.

There isn’t a single asshole in congress, the executive or the judicial branch that gives a rat’s ptui about your or my safety. If I’m wrong, let them come forward and take a polygraph. Just two questions:

a) The needs of the country take precedence over my personal needs.
b) My personal needs take precedence over the needs of the country.

I’ll grant you, a few weasels will sneak through on that one and I intend it so. Just the same, they’ll be scared. But imagine who and how many would fail. I’ll tell you right now, I’m afraid I’d come up a ‘b.’ Which isn’t all THAT bad. Except, I’m not in D.C. posturing and preening and saying all the ‘right things’ about what’s good for this country, etc.

What’s good for this country is taking care of you and me. And a few other dickweeds we’ve seen making comments on this site. It is NOT waging war on the other side of the globe.

As for Oklahoma and their license plate. Go ahead on, dupes.