“One has to wonder what planet these people are from that are willing to do away with all that america stands for just so their party can stay in power, even stranger, they normally don’t even benefit from the corruption.”

Jed this is populism! Since Americans are inherently racist, populism means bashing programs that help black people no matter what.

The best is the poster who talked about “moral relativism.” That’s hilarious. Just the fact that he has access to the internet means he hasn’t given all his worldly possessions to the poor-as the bible instructs-and hence is being morally relative.

Some of the shit these people write is beautiful in its idiocy. Like that it’s discrimination to favor any race over another in schooling. IT’S DISCRIMINATION TO FAVOR ANY RACE OVER ANOTHER IN TERMS OF INCOME, yet black men make 75% what white men make annually. Hispanic men make 63% what white men make. And no, cons, whites don’t earn more than blacks because they work harder. Whites earn more than blacks because their schools are better funded, hence they are better equipped to succeed in the workforce.

If you don’t want to be morally relative, then take one for the team and go learn at an underfunded school so one of the poor among us has a better chance to succeed. Otherwise you’re just a con: a hypocrite who cites his moral code and then violates it whenever prudent.

“Last I checked…”

Stormfront isn’t a very reliable source, ya know.

Isn’t it funny how they will bash the messenger and ignore all the transgressions of their friends, even those that threaten the integrity of their country?

One has to wonder what planet these people are from that are willing to do away with all that america stands for just so their party can stay in power, even stranger, they normally don’t even benefit from the corruption.

YOU’RE A MORON AND YOU’RE WRONG.

every time i read this, i just get more mad at what an incredible dumbass you are. i’ve read stupid stuff you’ve written before… but this is indefensible.

you’re a moron for thinking the ruling is discriminatory and placing students in schools, based on their race, isn’t.

the circular logic roberts uses is at least logical.

the contradiction of “identifying students based on their color so as to make the system colorblind” is as blatant a contradiction as any.

the first circular argument is at least supported - it uses itself for support.

the latter argument collapses upon itself… but moral relativists have no problem with supporting those kind of contradictory statements.

School integration was enacted in the 80’s because it was painfully obvious that schools in mostly brown neighborhoods(poor,black, latino, east asian, etc) were in terribly bad shape.
The thinking of the politicians at the time was that if they forced the affluent kids to go to the poor schools, the parents would demand change in those schools.
What actually happened, and politicians had to know it would happen, was that those that could afford it went to private schools, the rest had to deal with what was forced upon them. Since the students from the poor schools weren’t up to the education level of the affluent kids, they had to level the playing field, they did this by reducing the curriculum and difficulty of the classes, thereby alienating the smartest students.
What followed was a fiasco of students dropping out, poor performance, racial violence and the total degradation of the public schools system.
All that because a few selfish pri*ks couln’t just fix the schools in poor neighborhoods.
Rather than making them equal at a higher level, they brought everyone down to the basement. BRILLIANT!!!

Buddha taught us over 5000 years ago the perils of selfishness, greed and poverty. 2000 years ago Jesus tried to teach the same thing. Many say they understood but act like they don’t care or are just willing to go against him and his master’s message.40 years ago King tried to teach the same thing, that inequality of opportunity leads to poverty, poverty leads to desperation, desperation leads to crime, crime leads to a fu*ked up life for everyone.

I never approved of busing, it always seemed like a cop-out from doing the right thing. Like they knew it was going to be a fiasco, but they did it anyways so it would fail. Would have been much simpler and cheaper to invest in those schools, those children. Perhaps instead of singing about killing cops and beating up ho’s our youth would be singing about more productive themes.

this isnt about integration, its about quotas…in the louisville/sheperdsville area (one of the places in the decision) children were prevented from going to a nearby school simply because they weren’t of the right race to fill a quota

qualifying anyone by race and not by ability, or even location and ease of getting to school, IS inherently rascist, at least now…the quotas served some sort of purpose back when the ink was still drying on the civil rights act of 68 and the country was tearing itself apart over race, but now they are a relic of a thankfully bygone era

Intergration is discrimination, if its forced.

Intergration is discrimination, if its forced.

Good point and I’d like to expand on your suggestion about the ‘value quantifier’. It is true that is is racial discrimination, but as you suggested, is it necessarily bad? I notice that people will pretend things like this are not in fact discriminatory because they dont see them as all that bad. I think its best to call it what it is and then acknowledge that yes, perhaps its not always such a bad thing.

This reminds me of a russian class I took where the prof told us of russian custom to defer to women in social situations(act gentlemanly towards ladies. IE chivalry) He told us straight up that this wasnt sexist and I laughed out loud. Of course it’s sexist, its expected treatment favoring one sex over another. The key is to seeing that maybe not all forms of sexism are ‘bad’. No one else in that class would even consider my point because they were all to instilled with fear of inequality. I don’t know how they were able to rationalize it to themselves but they all agreed with the prof in the end.

Last I checked, preference for a given student over another based on race is discrimination. It cannot be any more simple than that. Whatever value quantifier you wish to assign to it, factoring race into deciding who goes where is racial discrimination. I think many of us have been brain washed to not see this.