I honestly think it’s too late. We can preserve as much as we can but we cannot prevent.

I honestly it’s too late. We can preserve as much as we can but we cannot prevent.

when it comes to science your OPINIONS don’t mean jack. It doesn’t matter AT ALL if you disagree because it’s true. You see the ice melting? You see the ice burgs slamming into Antarctica? Do you see the animals being pushed out of their homes? Because if you DON’T see that then you are SELECTIVELY MAKING A DECISION NOT TO SEE IT. You are completely and utter full of yourself and I humbly beg you to SHUT UP.

That’s your best joke that is.

Oh well, shame. Bye Beth, good luck in the future with all things obsessive.

Wanna know how to keep an idiot in suspense?

Go on Beth, it’s your turn. CP had a reasonable try at it, to explain just how science might have got itself into this huge mess where it’s supporting junk. Who started it? How did it thrive? Why is it only web-dwellers who know the truth, why doesn’t Bush call foul, for instance? I’m looking for a coherent, rational, consistent explanation. No insults, no hyperbole. Tell me what is really going on. Go on, convince me!

Yeah right Beth, that’s why science doesn’t work. Never has and never will.

How did it START Beth, that was the question. No-one to cut off B and C’s funding before GW was ‘invented’.

If scientist A tried to pull a fast one to gain more funding, scientists B, C and D would take great pleasure in instantly ripping A to shreds. Scientist A would never get another job.

WRONG (again) Scientist B & C would be told their research funding will be cut off unless they preach the “one true religion, gw”. (This is already happening in the EU and the US)

Next, B&C supply the “peer review”.

Then, when D attempts to take great pleasure in ripping A to shreds. A, B and C label him a denier. Done and done.

Your GW is like bad methodology and bad methodology is what you need.

“I know you’re a denier, but why? I explained my understanding of the science in a huge post, earlier. Why do you disagree? Why are the scientists lying/wrong?”

Let’s see? How about billions of dollars? Let me explain how a bureaucracy works Billie. It spends the first half of it’s life trying to justify it’s existance, and to get funding. It spends the second half of it’s life trying to keep itself in existance and keep the money coming.

Then there is the matter of power. This would not be the first time sceintist have tried to gain the power to tell people how to live their lives. But you still to subscribe to the fact that scientific consensus equals scientific fact. It does not.

Then there is your whole CO2 causes more heat so where is it going? Well I wrote a nice long post disputing this whole theory but Tim deleted it, he attends the church of GW, also. The whole greenhouse gas theory is bs as well, therefore, as WR has stated so well, you are demanding that someone disprove a negative.

Then finally let me address your favorite “proof”. Peer reviewed science. Well how sweet, a bunch of liberal scientist who believe in GW get another group of scientist who believe GW to validate thier work. That is like getting an art forger to validate another forger’s work as authentic.

Then there is the whole algore and the other rich liberals hypocricy. If they truly believed the world was in danger would they not change the way they live? Instead they come up with a scheme that allows them to continue living thier lavish lifestyles, while claiming they are making a difference. Translation they don’t believe the BS they spew out.

And finally, to those who claim this is not about politics. Anything that gets liberals this worked up is about anti-business, anti-capitalism and anti-United States, and is pure politics.

Alien Billie - Talk about being a denier. You obviously did not read the article. There is a tremendous amount of pollution created mining for the nickel for the batteries, not to mention some day that will have to be disposed of, and all the shipping costs, etc. As for the lifespan of the vehicle that is based on Toyota’s estimates, not some made up fact. This just goes to prove how the envrokooks think. The prius makes them feel good, like they are making a difference, how dare some one tell the truth.

A Loon Billie:

You ARE getting your ass kicked all over this blog.

I know you’re a denier, but why?

Hey sweetie pie, we’re down in the backwaters now. No need for pretence, huh? I’ll admit that it smarts to get a telling off from C Co, of all people, and I’m sure you won’t be surprised to hear I’m planning a few sharp words for him. But WR, or Beth, kicking my ass? Surely you jest! Or do you think Gore invented it all just so that he could sell carbon favours, too?

I know you’re a denier, but why? I explained my understanding of the science in a huge post, earlier. Why do you disagree? Why are the scientists lying/wrong?

Just asking, because I am genuinely interested in your opinion. I like most of your posts, it’s just that the ones I don’t like I generally hate.

Damn BFF, you’re getting your ass kicked all over this blog aren’t you?

No, it just hurts your chances of being able to reason rationally.

Al Gore lives in a 20-room mansion and uses $2,500 in electricity and natural gas every month; Bush’s house in Crawford Texas is 4,000 square feet and uses no fossil fuels to heat or cool.

Hope this doesn’t hurt Al’s chances at Sainthood, Tim!

Yeah sure WR, you keep moving on, don’t stop, and don’t think.

WR

Don’t like debating with a six-year-old? Try arguing with this lot, then:

“human activities are a major contributor to climate change.”
The U. S. National Academy of Sciences, the American Meteorological Society, the U.S. Climate Change Science Program, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

“Most of the warming can be attributed to human activities”
The national science academies of the G8 nations and Brazil, China and India.

And in reply to you apparently waiting to hear why “clouds, oceans and the sun are irrelevant in a discussion on climate”, I refer you yet again to my reply twenty-odd posts ago: why do you persist in pretending that climate scientists are morons?

Debating AB is like trying to reason with a 6 yr old.

It’s all debunked … cuz I say it is.

Waiting to hear why clouds, oceans and the sun are irrelevant in a discussion on climate. Unless you believe they have no role in climate, confirming you have limited knowledge of atmospheric science, let alone climate.

You blustered and failed utterly to explain why mankind’s CO2 output WOULD BE causing global warming.

Skeptics don’t have to prove a negative, ie, causation of Co2 and temp increase. Your “side” is the one who needs to conclusively prove that.

As Carl Sagan once said, “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.”

Relax, I don’t expect you to prove the link, there is none.

Find other facts to parrot.

And back to you, CP, and ‘Prius vs the Hummer’..

You say “envirofascists” get angry over reports like this; it should all be about the science? Well, yes, it should, at heart, shouldn’t it? So I spent a little while looking into the claims. Not that it matters to me particularly. Toyota can kiss my hairy ass for all I care, Prius or no Prius. It is simply that, on the surface, it appears to be a ridiculous claim that a Hummer is more ecological. And given a relatively small amount of research, it seems I was right.

Among my very first questions was what unit of pollution they were using, and it seems this is the biggest problem. Their unit of pollution is the dollar! This seems to me deeply suspect. For instance, a car made entirely of carbon fibre may cost a million dollars, but wouldn’t be more polluting than a steel car.

Secondly, all of the R&D costs have been ‘dollarized’ and added to the ‘pollution’ costs!

Thirdly, it seems that they have used an average lifespan for the car of 100,000 miles, one third the estimate for the Hummer! And this assumption is not due to the reliability of the car, on the contrary, the surveyors themselves say “the vehicle is superbly engineered”. Instead, it’s because they say that Prius owners don’t use their cars as much! Well, I for one don’t think that the behaviour of the car owners affects the efficiency of the car itself, do you?

This still leaves the question of why the report has been issued. I have seen it alleged, but not proved, that CNWR are in fact employed by GM? Perhaps CP, since it was you that brought this whole issue to our attention, you would like to go and confirm or reject this theory? Or not, whatever.

Well, there you go. An hour of my life I won’t get back in a hurry. I think I’ll pass on your next little gem.

You don’t like long posts, WR? OK, I can do short too.

Your latest post consists of three-quarters repetition of arguments already debunked, and one-quarter new unsupported assertions.

You blustered and failed utterly to explain why mankind’s CO2 output would not be causing global warming.

Come back if you have anything worth mentioning that in any way casts doubt on the world-wide scientific consensus that global warming is caused by human action.

There, I hope that didn’t waste too much of your valuable time.

It’a all about the Benjamins.

There is the gigantic global warming bureaucracy that’s been created over the last 20 years. Whereas there used to be only a handful of scientists who called themselves atmospheric scientists, now there are legions of self-proclaimed “climatologists” along with the bureaucracies to support them.

U.S. taxpayers alone support this gang to a tune of about $5 billion per year. But only Exxon “bribes” scientists.

Perhaps the most effective of the pro-global warming groups is big business.

The alternative energy industry uses global warming fearmongering to sell subsidized, but still high-priced energy. Wal-Mart wants us to pay $5.99 for climate-friendly light bulbs, rather than $0.75 for traditional incandescent bulbs. Dupont and other manufacturing giants want Congress to dole out global warming pork for their past, voluntary reductions in greenhouse gases. Goldman Sachs owns part of the climate exchanges on which permits to emit greenhouse gases are to be traded.

Global-warming hysteria was just that, until big business climbed aboard the climate railroad. Now with its army of lobbyists in Washington, many businesses see global warming as a lucrative endeavor and they are trying to engineer congressional action for their own limited interests.

How much has Al Gore already personally profited from global warming?

Geez, AB, your latest in a series of novel length posts don’t make you come across as a blind,unquestioning zealot at all.

You again fail to address the role of the sun in … warming. You may be right, the role of the sun is probably insignificant if you overlook night, winter and … reality.

“In fact, climate models have been shown to be extremely reliable. This is demonstrated, for instance, in the tightening of the predictions from the latest IPCC report”

Sounds like someone claiming that the Bible is accurate because the Bible says it is.

Landsea’s resignation speaks volumes about the IPCC’s distortion of facts to wrongly link AGW and hurricane frequency. You may be right though, he’s only 1 of 1600 - not many of the 1600 in the atmospheric science field. How many was Copernicus? Should we abandon the scientific method and put all theories to a vote to determine scientific truth?

Again, you’re correct, I don’t understand GW science. I don’t “understand” astrology, alchemy or Christianity either.

Many AGW true believers appear to believe that Co2 had never occured until recently (and that nature neither produces massive amounts of Co2, nor absorbs Co2), and was created solely by Republicans. And I’m conspiracy minded?

Finally, you may again be correct that I accept the modelling of an astrophysicist while dismissing climate models. Apparently you believe it’s acceptable in reverse. Neither model proves causation re warming but then again, I’m not the one trying to prove anything. You are.

Illegal immigration increased over the last 8 years, the same time period as The Sopranos ran. Wanna try linking that next?

Repeating “we know greenhouse gases are greenhouse gases” says what exactly? Were you aware that we also know that 21 means 21 and that No means No.

I can see you’re emotionally invested in this. The world won’t end (honest) if you’re wrong. If mankind actually could change the weather, wouldn’t someone already be making money doing so?

Sorry CP, it’ll have to be your turn to wait a bit. WR seems to be on some kind of time delay, his post only just appeared as far as I can tell, and he’ll get cross with me again if I don’t hurry up and reply.

Just quickly though, I take it that you DON’T think I’m one of those envirofascists, since it didn’t annoy me at all to imagine that Toyota are screwing us over?

And Ralph, why not try again? I want to know the rrrrrest of the story… unless it’s a load of Exxon-sponsored rrrrrubbish…

I didn’t type the space in between sci and tech either time… guess somebody doesn’t want you to know the rrrrrest of the story.

Wow, I’ve never heard Al Gore say any of this, like 300,000 times, before.

How did you manage such a scoop? Was it on Stereogum or Pitchfork first?

AB: Where, line by line, did you address the computer model issue (as it pertains to the lack of factoring in oceans, cosmic radiation, clouds), the Landsea resignation over IPCC distortions, the Israeli astrophyicist’s hypothesis that cosmic ray flux variations explain more than two-thirds of Earth’s temperature variance?

Already debunked? Show us.

All I keep seeing is “Yeah, but … greehouses gases are increasing.” So are bad movies. Perhaps that’s a cause, too. A big rule in science is “Correlation does not imply causation.” It is NOT the Silver Bullet that proves AGW, no matter how much your “faith” requires you to say so.

As per the alleged infallibility of computer models Garbage in, garbage out! Someone can devise a computer model that says Jesus may have played shortstop for the 1954 Cleveland Indians or anything else they want it to “prove”. If the data is faulty or incomplete then what are you left with? Garbage.

Stopping capitalism via overhyped AGW scare tactics has become the Grand Cause, convincing everyone of the existence of AGW and all its inherent doomsday scenarios with the unstated goal of forcing the rest of to all live like the enviro patron saint, Ted Kazinski.

Anthropogenic/Man made (or, to toe the party line, American caused) global warming, like the War on Terror, is nothing more than just another scare tactic designed by politicians to give them more control over people’s lives via endless rules and regulations designed to prevent a “crisis”.

Health care crisis, Social Security Crisis, Education crisis …

Pols of all stripes invent a “crisis”, get gullible dupes worried, then buy off and/or enlist them to get the rest of us to fall in line. And don’t you dare question them because it’s all in the name of helping people because, well, politicians simply care more than you do, are more enlightened than you and, as a result, are justified in regulating how you should live your own life.

God, it’s the oldest trick in the book and people still fall for it.

WR, you must be blind. I took great care to rebut your post, virtually line-by-line. That’s why my reply was so long. And throughout my reply, I attacked your message, not the messenger. Well, admittedly I suggested that the bearer of such a message should be wearing a tin-foil hat, but still. It was only you who mentioned the Republicans and the oil industry – I defy you to show me otherwise.

But since you ask, no I don’t object to oil companies conducting research etc. What I do object to is their dishonest tactics, such as hiring lobbyists to invent web-sites that PRETEND to be neutral, when in fact all that they are interested in is attacking the concept of anthropogenic global warming. And their never-ending repetition of already debunked arguments. And oh yes, their repeated refusal to address the biggest question, which is where all the excess energy must be going to, what was that you were saying about sidestepping the point again?

And Sarah, don’t lose hope. There’s two of us and two of them. They’re totally outnumbered!

Wow. Judging by all these postings from the global warming doubters-I think it’s safe to say that we’re all doomed.

Not so busy that you couldn’t launch a quick couple of straw men though, eh?

But dang it all, that first one has caught my attention! A Prius causes more pollution than a Hummer? Well, if so, someone give Toyota a smack, hmm? But it doesn’t seem likely, does it? Is it something to do with the energy cost of extracting aluminium, maybe? No, I still find it hard to believe. And what is your unit of ‘pollution’ anyway?

Go on then, please, what’s the source for this info. And please don’t let it be one of your usual mad-as-a-hatter science sites.

I will gladly address your challenge but at this moment I do not have the time. I will get back to you this afternoon.

One thing I would like to ask. Since Al Gore is the messiah of Global Warming don’t you think he would know it causes more pollution to create a Prius than it does a Hummer? In fact over the life of the two vehicles the Prius will result in alot more pollution per mile. And then there is the fact that compact flourescent bulbs are filled with mercury. Nasty stuff.

Hello CP.

By definition, a model is a simplification of reality. However, it does not follow that all models are therefore unreliable. In fact, climate models have been shown to be extremely reliable. This is demonstrated, for instance, in the tightening of the predictions from the latest IPCC report. Oh, wait no, please don’t tell me that you’re confusing climate models with weather forecasting?

Thanks for asking CP, but I won’t be going to ‘the Church of Global Warming tent revival aka live earth’. Don’t worry though, I had a little pray to a statue of a CO2 molecule earlier.

So anyway CP, are you going to take up my challenge? The question all deniers avoid? If global warming isn’t being caused by humans, then where is all the extra energy trapped by greenhouse gases magically vanishing to?

Alien Billie
“…….or that climate models aren’t reliable (because they use computers!).”

Billie no one says climate models are not reliable because they are done with computers. They are not reliable because the computers cannot factor in all the varibles that effect climate.

So tell me Billie are you going to go to the Church of Global Warming tent revival aka live earth?

“Funny, how most of the scientists doing pieces on “How Fraudulent Global Warming is” are working for or getting huge checks from your Fair and Friendly Neighborhood Oil
Companies…Hmmm, that’s a puzzler, huh?
The Repulsicons always have to see the $$$$$$ Unless it’s Junior Bush or Dick(Slickboy)Cheney or the Oil
Gang…. Oh, Hail Exxon/Mobile/Shell Etc…
No money going on there, folks-lap up the idiocy, doubters of Global Warming-we know how Astute your Observations are-why you have followed GWB, Cheney, Rove, and the rest of the prune patch…Yea, I would certainly Trust those guys-why, look what they’ve done for us!
And God certainly wouldn’t want us to take care of what he gave us….
Goop and Glob is what he likes….
And Money is Everything….
Who are these people?
Gore has always been concerned and smart on the environment and, it is a passion with him-just hope there are more like him. He and the rest of us are learning, constantly and the World Needs One Giant Slap In The Face to wake it up…Shake it up…
Haven’t you dimwiths bought Enough of the Conservative Crap? You have let the RepubliCons steal you blind, render you deaf/dumb/blind and, follow Any line of Tripe the Bush-League shoves at ‘ya…
Dumb and Dumb-Downed to the Max…
The Sleazy Oil Companies Own You….And choosing to be ignorant, allows your World to Self-Destruct with help from your Oil-Greedy “Pals”…Are you that Sheeplike? (SouthPark Stinks)…

Well fair enough WR, I did ask you for details, didn’t I? In that respect at least, you didn’t disappoint. This line didn’t disappoint either:

‘Follow the money. Al Gore stands to make millions of selling carbon offset “indulgences” just like the Catholic Church sold indulgences during the late Middle Ages.’

Ha ha ha! Congratulations, that’s a new one to me. You win! The tin-foil hat is in the post.

Otherwise, I note once again that my original post is vindicated. I said that it is straightforward science that we are heating the atmosphere, and that all denialists can do is snipe around the edges to try and confuse the issue, and that is precisely what you proceeded to do. But to give you some direct answers anyway:

The vast majority of climate scientists agree that global warming is caused by humans. Your list of dissenters, headed by William Gray(!), is pathetic.

Scientists are NOT ‘armed only with computer models’. This is rank nonsense. I repeat from earlier, it is simple science that extra CO2 inevitably warms the atmosphere.

The sun is clearly not causing the current warming because the energy from the sun hasn’t increased in correlation. Why do you persist in pretending that climate scientists are morons?

Niv Shaviv’s theory was debunked long ago. He stands accused of cherry-picking his data. Don’t believe me? Eos Vol. 85 No. 4: ‘(Shaviv’s work) does not hold up under scrutiny…questionable assumptions..a correlation has not been demonstrated’. But most significantly, why would you accept THIS scientist’s computer modelling without question, when you dismiss everyone else’s? Because it gives you the answer you want perhaps? Just maybe? Huh?

You have a scientist who resigned from the IPCC? I have 1,600 who didn’t.

And then you mention China and India, and then my blood starts to boil. The kind of article we should be reading right now is ‘How on earth do we get the whole world to play fair with carbon emissions’, cause that sure as hell is going to be a problem. Instead we’re still having to argue the toss with the denialists.

There are many climatologists, atmospheric scientists (hurricane forecaster William Gray), astrophysicists etc who are either decrying the over-exaggeration of global warming or even it’s existence most with zero ties to the oil/gas.

Anthropogenic GW doomsday types armed only with computer models fail to factor in the massive role of oceans on climate.

To also dismiss the possible role of the sun in warming (why is Mars also warming? Are there SUV’s there, too?) strains credulity.

Israeli astropysicist, Dr. Nir Shaviv reconstructed the temperature on Earth over the past 550 million years to find that cosmic ray flux variations explain more than two-thirds of Earth’s temperature variance, making it the most dominant climate driver over geological time scales. The study also found that an upper limit can be placed on the relative role of CO2 as a climate driver, meaning that a large fraction of the global warming witnessed over the past century could not be due to CO2 — instead it is attributable to the increased solar activity.

Ask yourself why Chris Landsea, a contributing author for the UN’s second International Panel on Climate Change in 1995, resigned over the IPCC’s misrepresentation of “climate change” and hurricane trends.

Follow the money. Al Gore stands to make millions of selling carbon offset “indulgences” just like the Catholic Church sold indulgences during the late Middle Ages.

Go ahead and be a “true believer” if it helps you sleep. Just keep your hands off the world economy. There’s 3 billion Chinese and a lot of people in India who won’t take kindly to Al Gore’s plans to keep them undeveloped and poor because he has this theory designed to guilt us into wearing environmental hairshirts.

So, WR, I post a comment that goes into considerable detail about the how’s and the why’s of global warming. Your reply? It’s all a conspiracy, it’s all a religion. The first time I heard such nonsense, I admit it raised a smile.

It really doesn’t make me smile any more, though.

Do you have anything, ANYTHING AT ALL OF ANY SUBSTANCE WHATSOEVER, to back up your knee-jerk rejection of global warming theory?

Global warming true believers soulnd an awful lot like born again Christians. People who don’t accept Al Gore (and the catastrophic anthropogenic global warming scenario) as their personal savior are evil.

Both are religions that require you blindly accept even the most contradictory statements.

Funny how the question authority types have bought into this scam lock,stock and barrel. Many scientists who preach global warming doomsday scenarios receive massive government grants. They have a huge conflict of interest yet only people with ties to Exxon/Mobil are tainted. Not BP or other “evil” oil companies poised to make huge profits off global warming hysteria.

When the pot wears off you’ll realize you’ve been played by just another politician … again!

Hi folks
This is a complete steal, and all kudos goes to theyeti. It’s simply the clearest explanation of why global warming is man-made that I’ve ever read. Just in case some of you still harbor any doubts??

“The basics of global warming are this: Human beings are emitting large amounts of greenhouse gas, mostly carbon dioxide but also methane and a number of other minor gases. The atmospheric concentration of these gases has been rising quite rapidly, with CO2 concentrations about 30-40% higher than they were during pre-industrial times. It is beyond rational dispute that humans are the cause of this increase, because what we are emitting is more than what shows up in the atmosphere. This means that nature is acting as a net carbon sink, and therefore cannot be contributing to the increase. This is so obvious that very few global warming denialists will challenge the fact that humans are responsible for increasing CO2 concentrations. A few do, but their rebuttals are extremely feeble and aren’t even logically sensible, since they can’t explain where all the human emissions are supposedly going if the natural world is on net emitting carbon too.

So we know that we’re causing atmospheric greenhouse gas concentrations to increase. We also know that greenhouse gases ARE greenhouse gases — that is they allow visible light from the sun to pass through them, yet they absorb infrared light that’s being radiated back into space. There is an equilibrium between the amount of energy we get from the sun and the amount we radiate back into space, such that the Earth’s temperature tends to remain relatively stable. If you increase greenhouse gas concentrations, the atmosphere absorbs more energy and you shift that equilibrium to a higher temperature. This is simple, basic physics. Again, global warming denialists don’t dispute the fact that greenhouse gases absorb a known quantity of energy, and if for some reason they did, they’d have an awful lot of laboratory physics to explain away.

So that’s really all there is to it. We’re putting greenhouse gases into the atmosphere and we know these will absorb energy. That can’t help but make things warmer. To convince me otherwise, I would need someone to explain to me where all that extra energy was magically disappearing to, because without such an explanation it is simply not possible for temperatures to remain stable.

In all the time I’ve been reading about and debating with global warming denialists, I have yet to see one make an honest attempt to address that question, or even to acknowledge the fact that it even matters. What they do instead is snipe around the edges, looking for some supposed anomaly or hole in our understanding. They claim that temperatures aren’t really rising, or that they things were warmer in the Middle Ages, or that climate models aren’t reliable (because they use computers!), or that the sun is what’s causing things to get warmer, etc. All of these claims are demonstrably false, but even if they weren’t, it would still be missing the point. How can you massively increase greenhouse gas concentrations without causing warming? If the sun is also causing warming, or if things had once been slightly warmer in the past, this doesn’t affect the main issue. And the fact that we are currently in a rapid warming trend, that it does appear unprecedented, and that our best models tell us it’s going to get a heck of lot worse, this just makes things all the more obvious. But even without these things we’d still have very strong reasons to accept global warming.

So as I see it it’s now (if not long ago) beyond reasonable debate that human activity is causing global warming. The only question worth arguing over is how bad it’s going to be and what we’re going to do about it. And it is an extremely important question, because until we address it we can never start to rectify the problem. The goal of the denialists is to generate propaganda and obfuscate the science in order to dissuade society from answering that question.”

“How many people are going to keep shoving their collective feet up their own asses??? Who the hell cares what kind of person Gore is? Grow up you infantile morons. The words people. The words. Concentrate on what he’s saying, not what he’s doing. I hope all you naysayers say exactly the same thing about Bush. You think Gore’s a fraud?? Remember, Bush claims to be a ‘born-again’. First of all, how is that possible? Second of all, why did he need to be born again?? Thirdly, if you believe him, you’ll believe anything. Good luck you immature a-holes who keep ripping on Gore. Keep your collective heads in a hole, in fact, the same hole. ”

The kind of person Al Gore is proves a point. The point is this: No one is going to stop driving cars, using air conditioners etc. Even people who are sounding the siren of global warming. Essentially: we’re screwed. If global warming is human caused, and all evidence says that it is, we are still screwed because no one will change their lives to prevent it and the government won’t regulate anything because they are an evil corrupt organization of murdererous cronies.

So have fun frying. I’ll enjoy my life while I still can, driving my Corvette Stingray and keeping my house cool through the summer.

“born again” is a figurative term that refers to a person’s spiritual rebirth through Christ, not a medical birth.

How many people are going to keep shoving their collective feet up their own asses??? Who the hell cares what kind of person Gore is? Grow up you infantile morons. The words people. The words. Concentrate on what he’s saying, not what he’s doing. I hope all you naysayers say exactly the same thing about Bush. You think Gore’s a fraud?? Remember, Bush claims to be a ‘born-again’. First of all, how is that possible? Second of all, why did he need to be born again?? Thirdly, if you believe him, you’ll believe anything. Good luck you immature a-holes who keep ripping on Gore. Keep your collective heads in a hole, in fact, the same hole.

I’m glad Al has finally decided to stop supporting the destruction of our environment by electing to not be a passenger in private jets, which emit ha…. oh wait, what’s that, Al? You’re still doing that? Oh. Well at least you’re planting trees to make up for it, buddy. I still hope you become the next President, that way we have yet another hypocritical egotistical maniacal bloodthirsty lying piece of human scum telling me and everyone else what to do.

Right on Sarah! Run Al Run.

This needs to stop being a political issue and start being an issue of our own global conscience. Most of the deniers of global warming hear that Al Gore is heading this campaign and they immediately close their minds and refuse to participate in any logical and intelligent discussion of the matter. Their minds are made up and they tend to deny hundreds of thousands of scientific facts simply to keep their immense and fragile egos from suffering any damage. This needs to become a civil movement and must avoid entanglements with specific organizations and politicians, for the simple reason that they all have different agendas that may or may not serve the will of the people they represent. The political system is slow moving, nearly impossible to penetrate with new ideas, and is run by greedy puppets of selfish corporations. I never trusted a politician and I probably never will, and this situation is too important to leave in the hands of mean old farts who won’t be around to see the effects of global warming. I am 15 and I have to live here for about 60 more years.(Just a side note: the word “politics” comes from two words: the prefix “poli-”, which means “many”; and the word “tics”, which means annoyances or bloodsuckers.) The needs of the many are currently being ignored to satisfy the desires of the few. Keep the movement civil, and we can stop Big Oil. Never doubt that a small group of dedicated citizens can change the world; in fact, it’s the only thing that ever has.

its a shame to see how many believe the last thing that was told to them. much of the known slander on gore is funded or linked back to exxonmobil and threatened political figures. i think that speaks for itself, dont believe me? then look it up.

South Park provides more important and factual lessons than this douche.

so it is you guys who push the bushlikes where they are now huh..have no kids do yo? huh.. or yo just don give a dime about them huh..

Warmed up time. Mr. Gore family and himself have done harm to the land they have owned.All for the name of money.He tells us his carbon footprint is in order!The truth is the truth and a lie is a lie!He is a star and reporter’s wouldn’t dare!Show it!

I find it interesting and sad!The people who abused the most.Are the same people who to teach us about global warming.They stick there nose in the air and tell us how much smarter and better they are.If someone smarter comes along.They are told to go away!There is a danger when some truth is bury!!What is the meaning of this cult? That should be answer first!Then we could solve problems !

“warmed up” said it perfectly!

Last two posters: So, is the message the problem? Or, just the messenger? This is not an article about Gore as a person. Or, anything he’s being subpoena’d for. You two must obviously believe that the warming of the globe isn’t a threat. But, I’d bet that you two also think that terrorism is. Ice ages cause extinction. You’re willing to put off the cleaning up of our earth because you don’t think much of Al Gore? Isn’t that a bit childish? Or, high school-ish? Have you ever met Al Gore? It’s time for the American society to grow up. If we’re going to call ourselves a superpower, then we, the citizens, better start acting like it.

He’s made lots of money in mining. Do we need a false god ? Words are empty! Mr. Gore needs to clean up his mess first. Check out Gore and his family and see he doesn’t do what he wants us to believes in! If he did i might believe him ! His past is pretty bad.

Let’s all follow a mind numb robot.Gore takes money and lives large. Then he tells the little people how to live our life. He doesn’t follow himself ! I’m going crazy. Wake up !! He has cause more harm to mother earth !!

Let’s all follow a mind numb robot.Gore takes money and lives large. Then he tells the little people how to live our life. He doesn’t follow himself ! I’m going crazy. Wake up !! He has cause more harm to mother earth !!

Ralph, nice post. I see, you too, have a head on your shoulders. What I didn’t hear Gore talk about, which is the most dangerous issue, is the stranglehold of big oil on foreign policy. Getting off oil, if nothing else, would keep us out of the turmoil in the middle east. It would also make Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc., less wealthy. That would stop the flow of weaponry, at least the high-dollar weapons, anyway. Getting off oil makes all the sense in the world, fundamentally. Less emissions, less big oil, less oil wars, less terrorist threat. Even if emissions AREN’T the source of the warming of this rock, it still makes sense to find a different source of energy. Period. The problem with ethanol, is it’s another fuel that will soon have a huge cartel. Bringing back the electric car, retrofitting homes w/solar power. Have mirror plants to store and supply energy. Build plants that use our garbage to supply fuel to support the landscaping industry. It’s all possible, except the giant wooly mammoth in the room (big oil) keep buying these legislators, so they’ll vote no on any federal subsidy to build these kinds of plants.

Big Oil needs to go. It’s inevitable, so why not now?

Is it important and necessary to pay more attention to the damage we’re doing to the environment and look to change bad habits? Yes, absolutely.

Is Al Gore a pompous dick, with asserting that he is an expert (or “undisputed leader”) on the envirnoment being the latest example? Yes, absolutely.

I prefer to hate the player, not the game.

P.S. Manbearpig was a great episode.

That was the worst South Park episode ever.

That was the worst South Park episode ever.

hey have you guys seen manbearbearpig?!? He’s very dangerous…we can be friends