Hell now that the Libs know he’s a playa it will probably help his electability… former girlfriend Lorrie Morgan says she couldn’t think of a bad thing to say about him if you held a gun to my head. His first wife whom he was married to for 26 years is campaigning for him. The Southern Gentleman charm works… ask Bubba.

You sure did a number on ol’ Freddy! I’m sure a lot of people are going to change their opinion on this guy now, and it will impact the primaries, not to mention the general election in ‘08! Thank you for posting this, sir!

I’m a lot like Fred. I go back and forth on this whole baby killing thing. Abortion isn’t going away even if it’s illegal. Women will still dispose of unwanted pregnancies with a coat hanger or a butcher in a back room, but when we start the partial birth abortion scissors in the head debate it’s just not right. FIRST TRIMESTER or adoption end of story… now if we could just get some real marijuana laws.

Sometimes it takes years or a good deal of a lifetime to formulate a solid stance on such a polarizing issue as abortion. Keep in mind Reagan was a Democrat for a good deal of his life. To simply announce you’re pro-life or pro-choice, without thought, to appeal to your political base, or hold an opinion your ENTIRE LIFE so you don’t get called a flip-flopper is dishonest with yourself and those you serve. I’m glad Thompson was thoughtful enough to form a stance over time and he’s a better man for taking the time to do so.

YOU didn’t, the dishonesty of the political games being played by the ‘leaders’ in our country does. You are merely a parrot spewing their propaganda without knowing exactly what it means or does to the political climate. Until you can live as a poor woman in this world you have no right to say a damn thing about how they should manage their health or well being.

You support a group that claims to have the best interest of the people at heart (they so value life that they inject themselves in family matters) yet at every oportunity they show the opposite. If people or groups should truly be judged upon their actions rather than their words then you will have to admit that the republican party has painted itself with the brush of greed, religiosity, cronyism, enslavement by proxy, warmongering, racism,… should I go on?
I don’t like the democrats much more, politicians in general have demonstrated their propensity for collusion and stupidity(they should have term limits, plain and simple). But to allow the republican party to still be relevant after they’ve shown their contempt for all the tenets of democracy, including appointing an attorney general who finds the laws quaint and outdated, is the epitomy of insanity and stupidity.

nikolai, Black women are three times as likely to have an abortion as white. Brown women? Only twice as likely. Rang your bell didn’t I Jed? PRO-DEATH!!!!

You are correct Philo it is very straightforward if you’re willing to do a little logical and legal analysis instead of following your politics, but you also need to be a little educated on the Constitution. Surely you have taken an introductory government course in high school. The Constitution simply limits what the government can impose upon “We the People” therefore any right the Constitution does not explicitly mention is implied.

roe v. wade isnt going anywhere…even if it could be overturned, at best all that would happen is that the law would go back to state jurisdiction, kind of like the death penalty now

neither democrats nor republicans want roe v. wade to go away either…democrats are joined at the hip to the abortion lobby, and republicans would lose a major issue to harp about at every election

Philo’s whole post is spin.

Thompson never questioned Roe v Wade until he became a candidate for president. They all say that now. Its a way to pacify the religious right without scaring average voters.

If he’s against criminalising abortion then he is not pro-life/anti-abortion. Its that simple. He doesnt believe “life begins at conception”, etc…. He’d be pro-abortion at least in his own state, and against federal laws that went too far. Thats not a stance the RR right will accept.

Another thing people bring up is his votes as senator that are supposedly “100% pro-life”. All those votes are on minor restrictions, none of them are about banning abortion. So theyre perfectly consistant with someone thats pro-choice.

Thompson ran as a pro-choice candidate in Tennessee. Thats part of the reason he won; the other guy (in the republican primary) was a social conservative. If Thompson changes to anti-abortion now (even in his own state), then he’s no different than Mitt Romney is. He’s flipflopping to try to get the nomination.

philo hit it on the head. if you cant understand that, but down the bong and walk away… you either too stoned to think logically or your a liberal. both have the same symptom… mouth running, brain not in gear

Most women believe abortion to be immoral. Most support for abortion comes from men ages 18-35. Why is that?

That’s pretty funny… ‘pro death’.
That’s like saying republicants are so concerned with life that they work to promote it and it’s quality.
In reality, republicants concern with human life ends at the birth canal. Once you are out, if you happen to be born into a poor family, you are fuc*ed and republicans are preparing for you… building lots of shiny new prisons, starting a nice global conflict so you can go prove yourself in the field of battle. Hey, republicants love live so much that they have reduced social programs for the poor to levels not sustainable or even logical(probably driving people to crime).
So you try to allude that because a candidate believes that it is a woman’s right to decide whether or not to bring another life into the world that she cannot care for or is the product of rape or abuse or perhaps ignorance he or she is pro-death. Give me a fuc*ing break you damn hipocrite.

I have a question nobread… what the fuck are you smoking? ‘Cause I need some too. Al Gore was anti-abortion pro life to the hilt when he was a Senator from Tennessee. When he went to the national stage he had to go left wing dumbocrat and became pro death er… choice. Any questions?

“We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

See that bit about liberty? That’s were the privacy comes from. When the Constitution was written, Liberty included privacy.

Further, since the Constitution doesn’t remove your right to privacy you have it by default. The constitution doesn’t create rights, it removes those necessary for a functional society.

Rudy and McCain have done the “Abortion flip-flop”, too.

Now they and Thompson are all “Good little Republican Soldiers”…

They have done the 180, sucking up to Bush, the “Right” and loony Pat Robertson…

Numbers and $$$$$$ are what they are after…

Gore was and is pro-Choice…

Any questions?

Well, Philo–I wish that were Thompson’s position (it is a great articulation of McCain’s…) but Thompson has recently made statements that are avowedly pro-life (FOX interview in particular) and meant to target THAT crowd.

Anyway, if he’s really pro-choice, in the sense that its law and he’ll uphold it, than he’s really lying to (what will be) his base. If he’s pro-life and he sells himself as a Gulianni conservative on the issue, than he’ll be lying to the general electorate.

I bet that he’s going to make it abundantly clear, once he gets in, that he’s super pro-life and he’ll hope his movie-star voice sells the flip-flop to the right wingers who don’t believe Romney/McCain on the issue.

Yeah these Tennessee boys change their tune about abortion when they hit the national stage. Just ask Al Gore… he can tell you all about the flip-flop.

Actually, all three statements are reconcilable and fit within his politics as I understand them.

He is personally pro-life - he would never condone abortion. (i.e. he would never ask his wife or girlfriend to get one)

He does not think abortion should be criminalized - even though he doesn’t agree with it, he wouldn’t make it illegal.

Roe v. Wade is bad law - the Supreme Court had no jurisdiction to issue that holding, and there is no “right of privacy” in the Constitution.

It’s very straightforward if you’re willing to do a little logical and legal analysis instead of following your politics.

I dont think he did flipflop. I think he’s still pro-choice. He’s just trying to blow smoke in the religious right’s faces.
He’s not going to get away with it. He’s either going to have to level with everybody and admit “he doesnt think abortion should be criminalized”, or he’s going to have to lie (to get the nomination). Which is it, Fred?

Rudy, Huckabe, Ron Paul, Gilmore and Mc Cain are all better candidates than Fred Thompson would be, his flip flop on abortion shows that hes not right for president and would be another Bush.