The punishment is adequate, but Libby also should be prevented from working in government or politics again.

Bush will undoubtedly pardon him at the end of his final term when, historically, Presidents pardon a bunch of people going out the door. That could cut his time a lot.

Not to worry: If they haven’t already, his neocon friends will take care of “Scooter” so he can live well for the rest of his life.

Libby will not see one day of jail. He has too much dirt on the administration. You will see that Libby will become a multi-millionare overnight due to this dirt on Bush and Cheney. We will also not see the “mysterious” death like with Kenneth Ley!!

there are those that say he’s being locked-up to force more info from him. perhaps. few things can be refered to as colateral damage, but this can…one of their own.
drag where all of this has come to.
as far as cutting his time, well good behavior will do that. i doubt the scooter will be selling ass on the third tier.

no way the punishment fits. i’m willing to bet that 75% of the people who were following this case, including myself, weren’t aware that his charges were perjury and not the actual leaking itself. he’ll be able to stay out of jail while the appeal is ongoing, and then if not this january, then the next he’ll be out.

Libby will not see any jail time.
His appeal will last until Bush is almost out of office and, a pardon will probably be given then.

Libby deserves alot more time in prison but, due to the Control the Bush administration has on the courts, the media, corporate, he is getting off light…Way too light…

He helped a corrupt administration rather than his “country” and, like Gonzales, he would rather play lap dog to the “President’s and his flunkees criminal whims…

Who cares what happens to him? He is not the source of this problem. He is just one man being used as a scapegoat to make us feel as if something has been done and ‘justice has been served’. We need to put our minds to the problem still at hand, not the token sacrifice we’ve been handed.

Take them all to jail!!!! The real truth will never be told!!!

Lying under oath to protect his boss. No wonder he’s shown no remorse for breaking the law, if he did his superiors wouldn’t pardon him!

And those inevitable posters who want to whine about how Libby didn’t do anything serious? Obviously Bill Clinton wasn’t impeached for anything serious either.

Keep conning yourselves…

Word…As usual you are wrong. Clinton lied under oath in a civil deposition. Libby was convicted of lying under oath about a crime that never happen. Since there was no crime there should have been no testimony, therefore no perjury. But the left wants it to be crime to defeat them at the ballot box.

A crime that never happened? Really?

Check the newspaper. Recent court filings confirm that Valerie Plame was in fact undercover at the time her identity was revealed. She was working on Nuclear proliferation until high ranking government officials revealed her identity in retribution for her husband speaking out against the war.

That noone was convicted of the underlying crime only speaks volumes to the obstruction of justice committed by Mr. Libby.

Heywood J. | 6/6/2007, 10:03 am EST

A crime that never happened? Really?

Check the newspaper. Recent court filings confirm that Valerie Plame was in fact undercover at the time her identity was revealed. She was working on Nuclear proliferation until high ranking government officials revealed her identity in retribution for her husband speaking out against the war.

That noone was convicted of the underlying crime only speaks volumes to the obstruction of justice committed by Mr. Libby.
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Undercover does not equal covert, and the statue only covers covert operatives. Mrs. Plame and her hubby appeared on the cover of Vanity Fair before this whole affair began, don’t sound very undercover or covert to me.

So Pig,
If we use your “logic” of the Libby case and apply it to the Clinton case….neither should have been considered perjury. Unless, of course, you think that a blow job is a crime. I think that the lack of a blow job is a crime, but that’s just the liberal in me.

the whole libby thing was a fishing expedition…i lost all confidence in the proceedings when dick armitage came out as the one who leaked her name, and as of yet, NO legal action has been taken against him, in fact it was seemingly ignored by the prosecution

this was just a back door attempt to get at cheney and rove…and not a very good one

that said, libby should serve his time, as he was convicted by a jury of his peers…law is the law, and should be served

Libby should, and will be pardoned by Bush!

Suck my big fat floppy dick Hallzee

Hallzee,

The only reason Libby should be pardon is to keep Bush/Cheney out of jail. You know that!!

Asiseeit | 6/6/2007, 1:10 pm EST

So Pig,
If we use your “logic” of the Libby case and apply it to the Clinton case….neither should have been considered perjury. Unless, of course, you think that a blow job is a crime. I think that the lack of a blow job is a crime, but that’s just the liberal in me.
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Clinton committed perjury in a sexual harassment lawsuit brought by Puala Jones. He was not impeached because he had a fat ugly woman give him head. Libby did not out Plame.

I see the kids are visting this board again. The stupid post below were not posted by the real pig.

Valerie Plame was in fact undercover, which does mean covert.

The CIA’s primary front operations are in risk managment and insurance. Companies pay CIA front operations to asses the stability of, say, the Balkans before they go in and build oil wells or make large financial transactions. CIA agents, working as insurance agents (albeit very elite ones) then go into countries and make contacts with local governments and businesses. They then filter this information back to their clients and the CIA.

This is exactly what Plame did, working on nuclear containment issues in eastern Europe. She assesed risk for new operations, both economic and federal, in these areas.

In that sense, being on the cover of Vanity Fair is some of the best cover an agent could have. She was portrayed as a successful business woman in the article–not as a CIA operative. If someone tried to tell you that Bruce Willis, on last week’s cover, was a CIA agent, would you believe them.

No, because its absurd. And voila, the perfect cover for a covert agent is born.

Libby’s crime was not in revealing an agent’s identity…no matter what Dan thinks, that much has been obvious to any 1/2-way literate person following along (unless they get their news from Murdoch). Libby’s crime was obstructing investigation into Cheney’s involvement in the issue and denying, to the grand jury, that he knew about Plame or that there was a willful attempt on the part of the VP’s office to destroy her reputation.

That Libby is guilty is irrefutable, that he may be the fall-guy and worthy of leniency is not.

good arguments ‘what’, but falling on deaf ears. the pig part refers to his pigheadedness.

Libby chose to be the fall guy so he should pay like the fall guy does. He’ll get pardoned in a few months anyway, so let him spend a little time in clubfed at least. Not like he’ll miss any tee times.

BTW- did you just expose the way the CIA does it’s business?

not like it’s a big secret huh?

Clinton lied. Libby lied. Both lies were to a grand jury. Both men obstructed justice. However, and this is a big however, Libby’s lies were directly tied to the cover-up of manipulated Iraq pre-war intelligence. These lies have led to thousands of deaths. How many deaths resulted from Clinton’s lies. Degrees of deceit people, degrees of deceit.

BTW Capitalist Pig: Are you serious? I bet friends are hard to come by when you’re a racist, fascist, AND capitalistic pig…..!!!

Thanks Jed. I’d say its all true, but then I’d have to break sooo many hard drives.

I agree with you Rock On, to an extent…I don’t think Ken Starr had any practical reason to go into the Lewinsky thing…he was mandated to look into Whitewater, etc.

However, I do think a lie under oath is a lie under oath. Futher, Clinton took pains to conceal the truth and parce the lie well after he was caught. That’s not acceptable behavior for an American…particularly the President.

Say Ken Starr asks the question…he says he didn’t have sex with Lewinsky (which he didn’t, in the most technical sense). Later, he gets indicted. He tells the people and the press, in vague terms, that there was some serious foreplay but no intercourse and that he was wrong to be so vague. Bam. Story over. Sundry details in the tabloids, sure, and still an investigation…but no Impeachment, no stained record, etc. Kennedy and LBJ did much, much worse while in the WH. He shoulda copped to it, cited their mistakes, and went on. End of story, end of problem

My politics suck………i also suck at being straight

Kill yourself Pig

Hey, “What’s the What”- (Roger Republican)-the Current Flop has done far worse deeds (it seems to be a daily deal)but Clinton was a good president…

What we have now is so Ripe for Impeachment, his own Party wants to disown him…He is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in Iraq, tens of thousands post-Katrina combined with our troop fatalities…

High crimes ranging from war crimes(Iraq), federal election-tampering, allowing companies that have continually broken hiring practice laws, tax laws, immigration laws, EPA laws to gain no-bid contracts in New Orleans, Iraq, cutting taxes that are depleting our infra-structure, employing/appointing inept/corrupt politicians/officials to head important programs/positions, attacking the Wrong Country, relaxing standards for Consumer Products, etc…(So much crime, so little time)…

Please Shut Up about Clinton-a war ago, a sunken city ago, hundreds of thousands of lives ago, multi- billions of dollars ago, the Reputation of America ago-You Repulsicans are Deranged to the Max…

Beautiful cake!!

Pretty soon their will be no more straws to grab for. For once will one right winger on this site admit guilt by the Republican party. Just once the truth!

Getting a bj is not a war crime.

“Please Shut Up about Clinton”

Stalinist ranting Dems insist the First Amendment only applies to who they decide it should apply to. Nice. And they call Bush anti-democratic.

cake, lets dissasemble some of your points…

war crimes? for removing a dictator? kinda shakey, incompetence on handling the war is a more accurate accusation

election tampering? well, its a lot of heresay and little concrete evidence…the only real “evidence” is from 2000, and even that isnt very strong, and relies on opinion

allowing companies to break hiring laws? yeah, you’re right here, but this is hardly new…every president since reagan has refused to enforce said laws…democrats want the votes, republicans want the cheap labor

as for Katrina…im going to go out on a limb and say there are many more factors than just bush. I hate to bring it up, but FEMA was gutted during the clinton years, but bush had the opportunity to fix that, and didnt

two, due to the constitution, and the way the government is structured, it is the mayor and the governors duty to call for federal assistance ahead of time, or else the government oversteps its bounds…and since governmental mobilization doesnt start on a dime, they have to alert ahead of time, not when the hurricane is upon them

and lastly, most of the damage was caused by the failure of the levees, in which money was given to the democratic government in NO and was either never spent or used for other purposes

so lets spread the hate around and blame all parts of government, not just the republicans

Cake, you need to figure who yr friends are before your little blind rants of rage. I’m just as liberal as you claim to be, except I cut my ideology with a bit of reason.

My posts were arguments against pardoning Libby, etc.

Clinton and Libby both lied to the Grand Jury, both deserve what they got. How can you expect anyone to prosecute an impeachment on the basis of ‘high crimes’ if we can’t even agree on a fundamental principle of democracy–that being that lying to a jury is wrong?

Your rants against Bush convince no one, as you throw wild accusations against the wall hoping something sticks.

Do I think Bush has committed impeachable offenses? Sure. Is there any President since JFK that hasn’t? No. (well, maybe Carter–he’s just guilty of being a bad President).

Like a lot of Liberals, you’ve constructed this alternate reality where you are the self-righteous center of all knowledge–the only one ‘in the know’ reigning truth down like fire on the rest of us.

Its a delusion equal to the evangelicals–you are somehow empowered by your knowledge whilst being persecuted for it.

You, Mike Malloy, etc. give Progressive (those of us looking towards the future and trying to make a positive impact) a bad name by attacking your friends and your enemies equally anytime someone disagrees with you.

The belief that a government should, by necessity, be righteous and well-run belies history heretofore and comes from an irrational sense of entitlement. Never has a government worked for the people/by the people–that’s why conservatives want as little of it as possible.

We liberals and progressives believe that government could work for the betterment of all–but we have to work to achieve that and fight against the tides of history.

Your too busy crying about the undertow to ever get anything done.

Sorry, didn’t see Rorshach’s post which I agree with as well – except that Ron Paul is much more conservative than libertarian.

Both parties are interested in POWER … period. All else is window dressing. If government were drastically smaller (it’ll never happen) lobbyists of all stripes would have nothing to “buy”.

It does not matter. The administration will not admit guilt. One reason may be because International Law would kick in and everybody involved with the approval of the War in Iraq would be found guilty.

Muny–

Int’l law doesn’t apply to the US, we don’t participate in International criminal court proceedings.

I do agree that the war was wrong…and the build-up to war and its subsequent prosecution may’ve been criminal, as well…but there’s nothing like a smoking gun here (believe you/me John Connyers has been looking) YET.

Until then, its rational to tamp down the lib rheotric about putting the members of the administration on trial for it.

Also, byu focusing so much on this point, we’ve missed a lot of opportunities to get bigger fish–Rumsfeld on Abu Gharib, Gonzalezes, et al. on the wiretapping progam, and a whole mess of folks on extraordinary rendition.

And before anybody blames Bush for our exclusion from International Criminal Law…it was Billy-boy Bubba Clinton who exempted us, for ill or good. Remember that in ‘o8.

Note: Hillary, to my knowledge (and please to correct if I’m wrong), had never come out against Warantless Wiretapping, Extrodinary Rendition, etc. Somebody needs to ask her (and all the Dem. candidates) about that ish.

All anybody has to do is investigate the doings of a fun little thinktank called Project for a New American Century. Pure, hard-nosed, deep investigation into their doings since 1996 would expose some possible answers to whether Bush and his people commited any crimes. All of his people, at one point, have been a part of that stinktank. This war was fabricated, plain and simple. Whether or not that’s a crime or not, seems to lie in an ethics quandry. Genocide is a crime, but deliberately invading a country unilaterally isn’t? Libby was a fall guy in this whole mess created by this thinktank. He’s a distraction who won’t do any real time.
I agree with one of the other posters who said “Degrees of deceit people”. EXACTLY right!!! It certainly seems that throughout history republican lies have been directly connected to who knows how many millions of deaths. Democratic lies don’t seem to lead to as many. So, although there is deceit in both parties, the degrees certainly differ.

seems fair for what he was convicted for but for what he and his cohorts in washington did it falls way short

Like Simpliss City said, the Project for a New American Century does shed a lot of light on the Bush Admin’s agenda…Also of interest is the book ‘Rise of the Vulcans’–a non-partisan look at the architects of the Iraq war (Cheney, Rummy, Wolfowitz, Condi, Armitage, Powell, etc.). Wolfowitz, for example, wrote memos all the way back in the late-70s arguing for the invasion of Iraq, for many of the reasons cited post-invasion (and after they “discovered” there were no WMD).

The whole WMD thing was a charade and its really irksome to hear everybody and their brother talk about massive ‘intelligence failures’ when anybody who wanted to know the truth could’ve found it (Bob Graham, no Hillary Clinton.)

Your Stupid Republican “Attempts at Covering-Up Points” doesn’t fly!

War Crimes: Try Putting Your pals up to feigning reports of “WMDS”, Attempts to buy Uranium, Playing the Fear Card that Bush and his Lap-Dogs do when they are about to be exposed for their umpteenth crime, Convincing Americans that Hussein was going to attack the U.S. if we didn’t do a “Pre-emptive Strike” on Iraq…

There is so much B-administration corruption, the networks would rather spend countless hours covering Anna Nicole Smith or Paris Hilton-ad nauseum…

Again, a war that will haunt us forever(multi-hundreds of thousands of lives lost in this mess for greed and oil power)billions of dollars that are badly needed by the military for equipment/troops safety are going to businesses most corrupt and friends of Cheney/Bush, long delays that drowned a large city with billions lost that end up in the pockets of Bush/Cheney pals, huge cuts in taxes that cut college scholarships, public school funding, health care(as we once knew it), cut hospitals, staffs, police force staffs, firefighters numbers, the safety net should Americans be attacked by more Saudi “friends” of Bush, or more natural disasters like Katrina…

It is well established that Bush and his “klan” and other dimwits who put Party over Country and Cheated Bushdum in…

Princeton, Cornell, Harvard, Yale(They have all done studies on the loss of “Democracy” since Bushdum. Major newspapers reported all the problems as well as HBO with “Election 2001″ after each election(L.A. Times, NY Times, Miami, Boston, Chicago Tribune, etc …

Republicans were furious-even they got that Bush cheated in the 2000-2004 “elections”…Where have You been? Diving for Dollars in the Artic for the past seven years or on the Roger Republican Payroll?…

You do deserve an award, though! How about for the most Naive Nitwit Alive or one of the Snakey-Money Comes First Bush Lap-Dogs that are willing to “Sell Anything” to keep the Inept King Crowned…

Someone will Bite but it won’t be me…

Froth froth foam foam, repeat as needed.

NO President should be allowed to pardon someone from their own staff. ESPECIALLY if it involves an investigation of his closest ass kissers. It is the begining of the end for us in America. The Decider and HIS government have started the decline of the American empire. We will be nothing but words in a fucking history book if things continue down this path.

I can remember how Ollie North broke the laws preventing military funding of the Nicaraguan Contras and their terrorism campaign against the democratically elected government of Daniel Noriega. In doing this, he sold cocaine to gangs in East LA to raise money to buy weapons to sell to IRAN to pay off the Iranians for holding the hostages until Reagan was sworn in. Sold those weapons at a huge mark up, then used the profits to buy himself a mansion and give more weapons to the contras. In other words, he was a terrorism supporter, weapons broker, supporter of an enemy regime. He was pardoned. Where is he now? He’s on TV influencing public opinion for the neocons.
Who else has been pardoned? People involved in watergate, libby, novak? People involved with contras? Those criminals still work in politics and influence our government and public opinion.
Face it folks, we are being led by a bunch of greedy criminals, people that in a perfect world would be incarcerated or far from the public spotlight. We SAY we are a nation of laws that promotes the values of religion, yet we reward those that go against all those values. When do the people take control back? When do we loose the apathy that tells us one vote cannot make a difference so we neglect being involved in politics, even avoid voting.

Rorshach and Ambulance Chasers, you both hit the nail on the head. The hyperbole coming from the tinfoil hat wearers about impeachment, war crimes, etc, not only casts credible grievances from the left in a shadow of doubt, but interrupts any sort of intelligent discourse on the subject.
I consider Libby to be the male equivalent to Martha Stewart, I don’t necessarily agree with their convictions, but they had their due process and now he has to do his time.
I also think that if the situation was reversed along political lines, the posts here would be very different. Many here hold such blind contempt and disdain for Bush and Republicans that even the most minor and sometimes fictional issues earn calls for impeachment. Personally I agree with Rorshach, I’m sick of both parties. It seems they have both drifted to their respective extremes and those of us left in the middle/moderate category are being ignored.

Jed, I believe you meant to say Daniel Ortega, he is the President of Nicaragua.

thanks, typing too fast. noriega was the panamanian president that helped ollie move his loads of coke.

SITM… I’ll agree with you guys that both sides have sold us out to ’special interests’ and ‘american interests’. Hell, I voted for Reagan… twice.

How many ‘left-leaning’ lies have led to hundreds of thousands of deaths? Don’t compare the liberals to the conservatives. Ever. Don’t justify the Bushies decisions to trash the constitution just because the liberals have also lied before. Conservative lies kill and oppress people. Period.

“ACFE”

“I applaud the last two posters-will have some intelligent posts” or something like that…

If the Republicans are so “Intelligent” how do they Explain Bushdum?

Should a far-right Repube own up to the Disaster and Degradation this “President” and his “administration” have brought down upon us all, then I’ll believe intelligence exists on this post and some of the posters are worthy of debate/recognition…

Just love the Poster using My Moniker-Get some Originality and find a name of Your Own…(Isn’t it a rule on this board-Or Are Republicans above all rules, laws and, regulations)?

Who Knew?

Hey Somewhere, WWI Woodrow Wilson Democrat, WWII FDR Democrat, Korea Harry Truman Democrat, Vietnam JFK Democrat… not hundreds of thousands of deaths but millions just because you asked.

“Well” -

Let me introduce you to ”

You are alittle behind the times, ace…

You need to get in touch with “What’s the What”- together, you might be able to figure out who won World War II and play Catch-Up with Real Events and political figures-and their History. You also need to get in touch with your “inner self” and Read Real news, listen to programs regarding elections, check in with the Major Universities/Newspapers/H eadli nes, HBO but Facts seem Foreign to Republican Bush Apologists… Stay away from Faux News(FOX) and step into the world of Reality…

FEMA was Well-funded under Clinton and was pimped-out under Bushkins-he and his minifrustrations have robbed the —-out of all of our safety-net programs-wait ’til they are finished with SS, Medicare, the Public School system(tax-cut Galore- George has ripped all these programs to shreds…

Iraq, the war that shouldn’t have been, to gain Oil Control-still trying to pump it out and making tens of thousands of military hanging around being used as target practice while Bush/Cheney/Wolfowitz/Per le/Ru msfeld/Fife/Bremer become multi-billionaires off the blood of American soldiers and Iraqi civilians.

This must be a Bill O’Reillyite…

Don’t give us Facts, Fiction seems to be the only thing you Bush lap-dogs push…

Katrin is an unspeakable crime that Bush and his Boobs will never convince Anyone with a Brain, can be Excused.

Bush had all the Federal Resources at hand and, was too busy making appearances with other Republican politicians, musicians, etc. than having a Clue or giving a rap about people drowning, begging for food and water, that the Rest of the World Knew were in Dire Need…

Here is another “blogger” that tries to Appologize for an Uncaring, blithering idiot, with all the Smarts of a walnut and maybe, someone far more Sinister and Cruel than most monsters of infamy-my God, four days to send adequate help-we still know the death count will be closer to ten thousand than the “admitted” 1,200 that Bush and his bunglers fess to.

Please, give us credit, Roger Repube, Your version of the past seven years is skewed and blind and probably paid for…

“Your Version” is about as real as TinkerBelle…

Drop the facade, it isn’t selling…

Bush is a Criminal-along with all his sleazy pals(Cheney/Rove, etc.)In a “Just” society, Bush and his co-horts in crime would be in Prison-Big Time…

Ralph – - Not sure, but I don’t think any of those presidents started those wars, or unilaterally led an invasion based on manipulated, fraudulent evidence. This “war” is, in a sense, an anomoly for the United States. Or, seems to be. It was started, not as a retalliation. Not as a unified defense against an invader. Plain, and simply, the republicans who pushed for this invasion for 30 years, got their wish with the Patriot Act. Democrats, with the exception of Lieberman, didn’t invent the lies about Iraq’s weapons, or intentions. Everything the neocons did and said prior to the Iraq invasion, is being said again about Iran. Don’t confuse yourself Ralph. Republican lies have definitely been a part of deliberate wars in vietnam, kuwait, and now Iraq. Soon to come: Iran.
We need a president with some balls to stand up to the oil industry, and fascilitate new, renewable fuel industries to separate ourselves from big oil. Big oil is the sole reason behind the invasion. The people who aren’t ready to believe that are the ones who scare me the most. They’re the ones who keep voting these bastards into office.
Democrats suck. Republicans hate. But, at least the Democrats don’t start wars.

ONLY Repubs lie about Iraq’s weapons, or intentions? Are you and “Cake” having a Who’s Less Informed? contest?

Al Gore circa 1992 (campaign mode):

“[Saddam Hussein] was not only promoting terrorism, but was also pursuing a nuclear weapons program“

Bill Clinton- 1998 (save his ass mode):
“Saddam (Hussein) must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons,”

Clinton also said then that, while other countries also had weapons of mass destruction, Hussein is in a different category because he has used such weapons against his own people and against his neighbors.

Use the internet and find many non-Republicans who supported attacking Iraq in 2002. The idea was popular then, so it was politically expedient for many Dems to support it. Some spine! Now that the war is unpopular the Dems have duped some into believing they either never supported the war or were “fooled”.

Now they want us to give the keys to the White House to people who couldn’t invent a better excuse the last few years other than “Don’t blame us, we were tricked”. Not bloody likely.

We need to stand up to oil companies? Yeah, that’ll make gas cheaper.

Dude, that Kennedy thing was a MOVIE. I needed money for Natural born Killers. Let it go!

You may think the murder of a sitting president and the subsequent cover up may seem like just the makings of a movie to you, but MR. Stone and his research team made the movie to point out all the inconsistencies that pointed to a definate collusion. In a recent book about Robert Kennedy one of Jack’s body guards is quoted as speaking to hearing the sound of gunfire from in front of the car. More evidence has come out to place CIA operatives in bums disguise at the scene. Then a hastily arranged ‘autopsy’ that by all accounts was bungled and done unprofessionaly destroyed any possibility of others double checking the work. You might accept that all these things are merely coincidence and it should be just forgotten, but some of us realize that what is happening here is extremely dangerous and we would be well served to stop ignoring it.
Why is humanity intent on destroying the planet?
Why is the human race bent on suicide?
Why is it that bad people succeed over and over while the good have to struggle and live in poverty?

BTW- Lybby is much different than Martha Stewart, she admitted her failures and took her punishment like a trooper at club fed to save her company the BS.
Libby is a coward that doesn’t give a damn how it hurts the administration or the country and is still unwilling to come clean. He’s merely protecting a force for evil that sits on the second seat.

Was Kosovo a declared war? Does it fall in the line of WWI, WWII, Vietnam, and Iraq? No, I don’t think so. It was a military operation, period. How long did it last? Democrats try to end wars, not start them. That’s inarguable.

Dems started US involvement in WW I, WW II, Korea, Vietnam, Kosovo (the last 3 were not “declared wars. What is the relevance of war declaration exactly to your point?)

“What the Whizzer”

How would you know what I accomplish in my life? Are you an “expert” on that, too?
I am Proud of what I have accomplished and it isn’t being a Patsy/sheep for Rove/Bush/Cheney/big Oil/Corrupt Corporate or Listening to someone guess my contributions to life…
Tell us all, what you have done?…
I can hardly wait for the “Insight”…

Is ranting on a music magazine message board at 4AM an accomplishment?

Meth doesn’t have oil in it … does it?

“Why are you so concerned about fantasizing or Projecting your own vices on people you don’t know?”

followed by this projection:
“You are a typical conservative…”

“Person al attacks are so much safer to Cons …

followed in the same sentence(!) by a personal attack:

“the Co-President of Vice and his tweedy Lap-dog, Rove…”

Greetings, John Edwards!

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