I am not happy with the way O’Reilly’s accosted Bill Moyers, but I am almost equally troubled with Moyers’ responses to the producer. Look, being ambushed does not catch a person at their best. Fox should have given Moyers a chance to hear what he had said and comment on that. They just wanted him to look bad. The Stone’s use of the word “smear” is justified.

Wasn’t Bill O’Reilly pretty smug? I thought so. That’s not what “journalism” is about, Bill.

O’Relly is a great man. Rolling Stone’s politcal news is so left sided it blows everyone in the entire world out of the pool for bs news.

dear “Anonymous”
you are obviously a moron
have you ever even read a newspaper or could you get your head outta you ass long enough?
dickhead

I find this new tactic interesting. It’s going to be funny when it backfires. I can see a number of things going wrong here.

1) Bill sends a “producer” after the wrong person, and that producer gets hurt. I don’t wish harm to anyone, but this sort of thing can happen.
2) Bill gets ambushed. I want to see this one happen, and am willing to pay.

Anonymous. Yeah right. Stop hanging out on rollingstone.com Bill-O. This is why your show is garbage. Shouldn’t you be working?

Bill O’Reilly is just what he appears to be- an arrogant, obnoxious, self-serving, right-wing tyrant who shouts and bullies his guests while purporting to tell the “truth.” Remember the son of the 911 victim whom O’Reilly physically threatened?

O’Reilly is the one who has absolutely no credibility, class, or grace.

It’s an honour to have my video posted on Rolling Stone.

O’Reilly had to make 2 corrections on 25/04/07 for false assertions he made about Bill Moyers 24/04/07.
O’Reilly read a letter from Ric Burns,a Moyers staff member, stating that Bill Moyers does not take money from PBS and resigned two years ago from the Board of George Soros’ Open Society Institute.
Just a pity Hannity hasn’t also told his viewers about the misleading facts he also spewed out about Bill Moyers.

Hmmm…Someone like Michael Moore “ambushes” people in interviews and is generally praised for the tactic.
An O’Reilly produces “ambushes” (in a milder way than Moore) someone for an interview and is somehow more of a douche than Moore? Naw…
And as far as Moyer, looks like he deserved it.
Who cares.

To be completely fair here…

O’Reilly is a commentator. He’s allowed to show his opinion and, if he wants, he can “ambush” or smear. He’s a comentator. An opinion guy.

Moyers is supposed to be a “real journalist.” Plus, he’s a publically-funded one. So he’s got a different standard. So he really shouldn’t have the option of smearing people. (Also, a little strange that he’d lump the more moderate O’Reilly in with super-conservatives. And stranger that he’d lie about what he said.)

So there’s a difference between a guy who’s supposed to give opinions and be a hard-ass for show, and a guy who’s a public-funded journalist.

Why is one, candid interview filmed outside a building (obviously Moyers was on his way somewhere) referencing a comment he made, but not the source of the comment, suddenly cold-hard fact? This is your evidence, Mr. O Reilly? Pretty weak.

At least Moore knows what he’s talking about half the time.

They are merely trying to attack Moyers because of the reporting his teams do… A particularly damning report on PBS’s Moyer’s program on last night skewered the administration and the media on the build up and manipulation leading up to the war.

Joe, Bill O has repeatedly insisted that he IS a journalist.

I love Bill O Reilly………..

O’Reilly is such whiner.

This whole discussion really doesn’t have anything to do with what O’Reilly said or what Moyers said, it has to do with whether or not you are on the left or the right of the political spectrum. If you lean to the left (as most do here) then you’ll more than likely feel that Moyes got a raw deal and you probably won’t like O’Reilly. If you lean to the right then you’ll probably think that Moyers got what he deserved and that O’Reilly is correct for exposing him.
If the situation was different, a la Michael Moore ambushing Charlton Heston in Bowling for Columbine I have a feeling that many on the left would not find a problem with it. The discussion here is not necessarily an objective one, but one that has more to do with one’s own political ideology.

Like him or not, O’Reilly nailed him. Moyers, whose salary is taxpayer funded, is so biased in his “reporting” that it is joke! Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, but not to the facts. Moyers said it, and was caught! He should have the balls to stand by his comments.

How typical of the right wing folk – shoot first and ask questions later.

O’Reilly sucks. We all need to stop paying attention to him and his antics and he’ll eventually fade away.

Moyers did not receive any money from PBS (taxpayers) to make this documentary…It was made by donors who were credited at the start of the programme.
O’Reilly read a letter from Ric Burns on The Factor 25/04/07, a Moyers staff member to correct his inaccurate reporting, stating that Bill Moyers does not take money from PBS.

I think both of them are acting like idiots. But i will say that just because Rolling Stone is so left doesnt mean Bill doesnt have a point. He has it on tape. Period. I dont even understand why this is an argument. I understand that Rolling Stone loathes Bill but any way you slice it they have his comments on tape. I cant stand people or magazines for that matter that pander to one side or the other. THAT IS WHATS WRONG WITH THIS SOCIETY!

Poor Dems are gonna need a miracle this time around. They couldn’t even beat the chimp we have now screwing up our country. Please try to assemble some coherent ideas this time. Or just accept defeat and blame the trailer trash again. Yee Haw suckuz!

Matt Millen would probably draft him to play WR

moyers is an embarassment, people who dislike o’reilly are basically anti-bush…and rolling stone really needs to stick with music cause its blatanly far-left anti-american magazine has become so obvious, if oreilly is a right wing journalist what the hell does rolling stone think it is..what a farce.

“A real journalist shouldn’t be able to smear anyone”.

That’s just for the “righties” who seem to have No Limits and without Facts…

Journalism is supposed to Enlighten, Expose, Challenge, Provoke, Educate, Inform…

This is how to empty the government of inept, dangerous, criminal, fraudulent politicans..

The Republicans would rather have Americans steeped in “American Idol”, “Dancing With the Stars”, etc.

They are buying into as many newspaper publications, television networks to Control and Commandeer the “news” to keep the public ignorant of what High Crimes they are committing…(Fascism)…

T he more aware people are of what our “Government” is doing, the more challenges it will have and, the power for change and good government rest with Americans…

The Republicans do not like it..

They have Done Nothing but create disaster since Bush cheated into office in 2000. They do not want Oversight so they can continue, unabated, Scamming the country, War-Profiteering(McLame is chomping at his jowly bit, to Make More War)and, making sure that their “Pals” are making money while they Neglect the general population, the military benefits(Walter Reed), national catastrophes(Katrina)and use the Funding slated for Government Aid and Programs, and make Personal Gain(GOP)at the peril of our Nation…

ok i hate bill o reily, Bill is right here, and god damn RS with their biast views

im no republican but im siding with bill o reily

you know what else they have on tape… O’really on a phone message inviting a woman to do lines of coke off her ass. I guess that is the type of family values the right winger value these days.

O’ Reilly is such a dumb ass he is an embarrassment even to himself.

Apparently RS definition of a real reporter is left wing reporter. Moyers has been offered to the chance to defend his comments on O’Reilly’s show but refuses. The left really cannot stand the fact that they no longer have a monopoly on the media and cannot count on “real reporters” to spew their propoganda unchallenged, while calling it news.

Sorry RS, seems to me that your leftist views aren’t swallowed whole-heartedly any longer. I’m glad to see there’s other intelligent conservatives out there like me who stand in opposition to your blithering crap. GO GWB!!!! I LOVE RONALD REAGAN!!!!

Looks like B.O. has some fans that read RS. I also watch B.O., Oberman, Matthews, H&C, read RS, the Weekly Standard, Time and the Chicago Tribune. Then I try to forget all this crap and watch baseball.

Conservatives need to unplug from Faux News, Rush, Bill O and take the time to watch/read/ingest other opinions. It might actually help them form their own opionions. Marinating your brains in right-wing talking points all the time.. your just turning into some bizarre cult!! It’s always about defending the pathetic lies of this administration for conservatives now. Knee-jerk trashing and smearing of anybody who disagrees or challenges you. Now there questioning P. Tillmans families motives, that’s just sick to me. If you want to see what a real American hero is, pull your heads out of Bush’s and Fox New’s bottom and look at Pat Tillman. A guy who had everything and went off to defend the country. There is not one person leading this administration with even an drop of that courage. What a total disgrace and embarassment they are.

All I saw was O’rielly spending his entire show “spitting venom” and maintaining his “smear machine.” Franlky, I don’t know waht Moyers was thinking, but he certainly proved his point.

FOX news is as legit as professional wrestling and the republican party is largely composed of racist, homophobic, sexist, hypocritical, war-mongering, faith-based & morally coiled shit-eaters – so the two go good together. Can anybody claim a single issue was progresed by the current administration: health care? education? tax relief for the working class? environmental awareness? civil liberties?

Just more viscious attack rhetoric from “Mr. Facts” Bill O and Fox News. Don’t you find it interesting that G W Bush’s cousin runs FOX news? (no ties there, right?!?!?) LOL!

Bill Moyers is an intelligent and thinking person. Too bad O’Reilly’s cohorts ambushed him at a bad moment. (ambushing is a cheap news trick)

At least Moyers didn’t call on someone from his own staff to make comments about O’Reilly like Bill O did about Moyers. That’s like Alberto Gonzelez calling G W Bush to support his point-of-view. How dumb do the Bushbots at FOX think we are…???

Kalb had it right: both men have different points-of-view. So what? Leave it at that and shutup, O’Reilly.

This is obvious that RS licks Moyers hole. So Biased on the left which is alright, but complete BS. 180 degrees of Fox trying shove down our throats their ideallology. which fine, but you are same as Fox. I see no difference don’t deny it
hey they are both Asses Stop Demonizing O’Reilley and Cannotinizing Moyers. They are bourgoise Elistist C*ck Suck*ng Pr*cks!
Don’t watch Fox if you like it

PS Al gore is such a loser! and so is GW Bush You guys just don’t and never will get it! dumb dumbs! pathetic!

But Michelle Malkin is hotter than any Leftest reporter and that’s fact!

There’s a major point people are missing here:

Whether O’Reilly is right or wrong in his argument (and that he had to retract a couple of his facts), doesn’t anyone see that it doesn’t matter WHAT he is attacking Moyers for – - – all O’Reilly is trying to do is point out to HIS “American audience” that “left” is morally wrong.

For all we know, Moyers could have cured cancer, but O’Reilly considers him a leftist, so that makes Moyers a villian in his eyes.

Bill O’Reilly is a joke and everyone knows it.

I agree with the last guy. They’re all part of the same hypocrisy.O’Reily of course has a conservative slant, but just because Moyers has a leftist slant doesn’t make him better. Neither is an objective journalist. Each tries to promote their own agenda. Don’t crucify one and canonize the other just because Rolling Stone is more in favour of the leftist view point.

Drew, the idea that no objective is tolerable in journalism is plain wrong. Example: Ed Murrow during the witch hunts after WWII.

Not that a leftist agenda is comparable to what Mr. Murrow did, but the point is still valid.

Let me get this straight – O’Reilly and Malkin aren’t propagandist, slanted, and biased?!? Holy crap…what world do they live in?!?

No journalism is completely objective, especially when the journalism is coming from talking heads like Bill O’Reily who make their money by being outspoken and outlandish. His show is successful in part due to the “shock value” of it. That’s why he’s still around because every time he says something super-conservative or just wrong he’s all over the news. He survives on the adage that “there is no such thing as bad press.” While this is not the way it should be, you have to realize that it is reality. News media is a business just like any other business.

Just watch Moyers doc. “Buying the War”. It is more objective than anything O’Reilly and Ailes could ever do. It holds all the “elitist” media to account also.
Bill is on a personal vendetta here. His arguments are just plain childish.
Grow up Bill.

I attempt to be moderate, which is why I find it interesting to read what Rolling Syone thinks of O’Reilly and then watching the actual proof.

Sure Bill is a slimy, smarmy bastard, but he also has his points. So he gives up his backing of the war, which is more than the president has done. And Moyers did say what O’Reilly said he said.

Then again, how trivial is it of O’Reilly to point out every little detail of Moyer’s words to him? And to tape it in an attempt at public embarrasment. A little bit like a bully on the playground.

oh michelle malkin… you think you can discredit a long-time journalist like moyer, when you can’t even tell a simple news story without calling someone a “far leftist” or base a single argument on fact for that matter. your eyes are filled with the emotion that only a fox paycheck could provide and jealousy that bill oreilly has sexually harassed everyone else but you at the office.

Rolling Stone is worse than both O’Reilly and Moyer, because they spin stories the same as these guys, then preach condescendingly about how awful O’Reilly is. RS is the pinnacle of hypocricy, and proved it trying to spin this story as “evil O’Reilly” when he is clearly right, as proved in the video.

Stephen Colbert is such an accurate parody of how he talks, his dumb pretensions and blind prejudice.

O’Reilly sickens me.

In the words of Stephen Colbert “Reality has a well-known liberal bias.”

Hah.

More examples of cons forgetting reality.

THE IRAQ WAR IS A DISASTER. THE CONS STARTED IT.

The media played it. Over and over and over again. It’s why you moronic dogs still believe Saddam attacked us on 9-11. It’s why you fucking shitbags believed the Iraqis would throw roses at our feet after we invaded. It’s why you fucking retards believed global warming was a hoax.

It’s what got every fat moronic midwester mother putting plastic “made in china” flags on thier SUVs.

Why? BECAUSE THE T.V. TOLD THEM TO. It’s called marketing. And it suckers idiot Americans every time.

Oh yeah,

and which “news” corporation would pony up and get a liberal producer to sandbag O’Reilley while he’s buying his morning Starbucks latte in NYC?

I’m waiting…

Hey, Some American – At least Rolling Stone has the balls to let us hear the original interview without edits and compare it to O’Reilly’s selective cuts and interpretation. Letting us decide is very different than Fox’s selective edits and tainted interpretation that does not let the viewer decide for themselves.

Bill O’Reilly is one of the sharpest journalists, that I’ev watched in a long time. Get him slick William.

jesus, people! the word is BIAS when used as a NOUN. BIASED when used as an ADJECTIVE. and BIAST is not a word at all, O’Reilly fans.
If you can’t even spell your talking points, it shows that you’re not doing independent research. No wonder Bill has to put his propaganda up on screen for you to read along with.

and and his name is bill moyerS

not moyer

Watched it thrice.. heard no venom… you know he lopped bill in with several others and wasnt talking directly about him, i could see where he’d not think he had said bill was a slime machine cause really he didnt, but most interestingly is that O’reilly uses this little mistake here to completely SMEAR the name of a reporter… proving moyer right..

Cable news programs are entertainment, not legit sources of information. Read a collection of newspapers and periodicals from various viewpoints and maybe you’ll be capable of forming your own opinion… Better yet read some books. Stay away from think tanks as well if you want honesty in your newspeople. I watch O’Reilly from time to time, merely for entertainment. His program and Bill Maher’s are not as different as their formats may initially suggest. Incidentally both are hilarious.

Hmmm.. Well, not like I watch Fox News anyway, I guess I can’t really complain.

hey im a douche bag. dont worry y’all its nothing personal, its a money thing. you think oriley gives a crap really? he’s just trying to make an honest buck by telling the truth. too bad the truth is nothing more then a point of view, and apparently its only a far right one.

why does bill oriley talk in the 3rd person?

Anyone who has actually followed this story saw O’reilly prove on air that Moyers did lie. He played the tapes of Moyers blatently lying to the camera, there is not argument about that. Not to side with O’reilly completely on this one but if you really payed attention to this whole story…not Rolling Stone’s lame take on it, saw the clip job and spin Moyers put on O’reilly. The problem is the people on this board probably didn’t see the whole story and take Rolling Stone’s word as the truth. Which it could not be further from.

Moyers literally said two contradicting statements within a three day span, how does Rolling Stone not acknowledge that and continue to feed its readers this garbage?

O’reilly is a waste of skin and he is not even close to a real journalist. To say he’s lying here is ridonkulous and typical – and by now old and boring – O’reilly. What a piece of laughable garbage.

george soros, liberal media…boogedy, boogedy, boo!

let’s go to our news “analyst” Michelle numbnuts Malkin for a trashing of pbs…

You guys do know that Moyers did lie right? Watch the tapes.

All I saw was O’rielly spending his entire show “spitting venom” and maintaining his “smear machine.” Franlky, I don’t know what Moyers was thinking, but he certainly proved his point.

It is astonishing how Rolling Stone can post videos of Moyers clearly lying, and then convince the minions here that he wasn’t actually lying. I feel like I am in the Twilight Zone. It is really a sad day in America when a widely-read magazine like Rolling Stone can be this dishonest. I mean, the National Enquirer has you beat on honesty. At least their stories are based on rumours; here, you are clearly lying and there is no way around it, really.

Well said Ford, you are exactly right. Rolling Stone’s political coverage is a joke. If you want to watch a pundit spit venom, watch Queef Olberman. That guy yells at the camera far more than O’reilly. Don’t believe me, watch both shows and time them.

Stay out of politics Rolling Stone. You’re kidding yourself if you think people read your magazine in order to educated themselves on politics.

Relying on Rolling Stone for political information is like relying on a playground kid for calculus homework.

Its funny how when people start telling it like it is on these boards and exposing how lame Rolling Stone is, all of the immature people that take RS seriously somehow vanish. Especially in this situation where there really is no opposing argument. Moyers blatently lied, O’Reilly called him out, and thats that.

That’s right Al. RS is as fair and balanced as Fox News. And just as much fun to laugh at.

O’ reiley is every bit as petty and immature as all the “immature people” who read Rolling Stone, who has always covered politics, from day one. Granted their takes are skewed left, but you cant help but sway that way when faced with all the holier than though conservative snobs.

And O’ Reiley is an embodiment of all that is sickening and disgusting about the pompous reich…oops, I mean right.

PS: i hope your mothers get AIDS (immature enough for ya!)

Sure that was immature, not as immature as discussing the topic at hand though…Moyers lying. But you have no argument. Basically this article is jumping on Oreilly for calling Moyers out for being extremely dishonest. And you defend his dishonesty by claiming(without justification or examples) that Oreilly is the same way.

Bill O’reilly is the best. He loves killing, just like me. Has little education, just like me. Bullies any threat, just like me. He lives in fear, just like me. He has an intsy weenie teenie tiny penis, just like his male audience. (not me, of course). O Bill, you are the best. Come on over and bring your loofah, or falafel, or whatever the hell you call it.

By disargreeing with us you are saying that you support Rolling Stone’s blatent dishonesty on the matter. Why do you support their lies? And dont answer by saying “well o’reilly lies too!” because first of all, thats not an answer. Second of all I posted earlier that I am not the biggest Oreilly fan myself, however he is completely right on this issue. So, Why do you support rolling stone telling lies?

Yea boston college and Harvard = poor education just like Rolling Stone = honest and worthwhile journalism. Hah you could not be more ignorant..and pointless with your post.

Rocky, are you still mad that the dems lost twice to a chimp? Maybe the global warming scam will help you this time. Scaring people will always generate more votes. It worked for Georgie boy.

O’Reilly is on top for a reason, he exposes lies and secret agendas of the mass media. This is something RS should be supporting. Moyers shouldn’t attack those who have the facts in their side.

Rolling Stone only has interest in this issue because O’reilly is slamming the lies that were in one of THEIR interviews. Rolling Stone doesnt care about Moyers, they care about themselves getting exposed, so they are now scrambling to spin this issue when there is clear evidence of blatent lies. There is no debate here.

How about someone closing this topic right now,These are facts: Bill O’Reilly is a prejudice,judgemental asshole,Bill O’Reilly is NOT a journalist, and Al is an idiotic prick,and this is a message to Al and anyone like him,if you hate RS so much,stop going to the website and damn sure don’t buy it, leave that for us so called immature leftists who want to read real journalism from real journalsits and we’ll all be happy

the fact of the matter remains however, from 2002 to 2004 there were no opposing views being shown on television in this country.

any one who denys that are the crazy ones

While I am not personally very political, these debates interest me because it’s easy to go back and forth saying “Bill’s an idiot!”; “Rolling Stone is biased!”; and on and on…

I haven’t seen the PBS documentary that Moyers made, but I would assume most right-wing supporters (like O’Reilly) would not care to have such an expose of the mess that is the war in Iraq as most are currently still supporting it.

What we do know is that hundreds are dying daily for this war on both sides. No matter what you feel about it, we went into this war on mis-information (which the Bush Administration admits to) and while war should be a last resort, America rushed to judgement and really f’d up. We can’t go back though, we have to deal with what we have.

What does surprise me at this point is how anyone can still be supporting this President. From Katrina to Iraq, to way back in the initial response to 9/11 this administration has done nothing but fail. I think we can all agree that no matter who is doing the job, not everyone is going to back them 100%. Clinton is still a hero to some and a sneaky anti-family-values leech to others. The issues that either side have had with Clinton and Bush Sr.’s presidencies are debatable… but at this point, how can anyone still be supporting George W. Bush?

What have I missed here? Hasn’t everything just gotten universally worse since he stepped in?

Opposing views to what? O’reilly? Moyers? Are you saying that everyone agreed with O’Reilly during those years? Considering you make no reference to what you are talking about its hard to see exactly what you mean, cause it looks like you are saying that during those years every news pundit said the exact same thing and thought the exact same way. Is that what you mean?

Why do some people post serious comments on a Rolling Stone website?

Because Rolling Stone prints travesty after travesty. And should every post be a joke? Whats wrong with someone being “serious” about an issue. Don’t get me wrong, i know that Rolling Stone is a joke of a publication when it comes to politics and culture, but if people want to post a serious comment, whats it to you?

Although I will occasionally post (out of sheer necessity), I mainly read the political stuff on Rolling Stone as a way to get my daily dose of laughter at all the left-wing, liberal nonsense.

Exactly my point biznitch. When posting on a joke of a website, every post should be a joke. Posting serious comments just makes you look like an ass. By the way are you obese? I’m doing a survey on people who post online.

Wow, these comments contain a lot of anger. Are conservatives so despondent over the many times O’Reilly has been caught in lies that catching Moyers off-guard once justifies the venom?

As for RS writing about politics– RS has always talked about politics– in the 1980’s, RS published the first susbstantitive article about HIV before HIV even had a name. RS always tackled tough subjects because it actually respects its readers’ intelligence.

The founders of RS created the magazine in 1967- the height of the 60’s- as a voice for a generation. It still IS a voice for a generation– both conservative and “liberal” (I use the term loosely because being liberal is actually being moderate in a world context, and, despite our isolationist tendencies, the US is still part of the world community).

Creating an artificial divide between music and politics is naive. It’s not a simple divide between Dems and Reps or conservatives and liberals–that division negates the complexity of people, reducing them to automatons that don’t think for themselves.

Politics is part of the fabric of life– our assumptions about the world affect everything we do, including how we write music, or write music reviews.

If you don’t like what you’re reading, don’t read it, don’t buy it, don’t patronize the advertisers.

P.S. Bill Moyers takes no public funds to create his programming. His only corporate sponsor is Mutual of Omaho, which never interferes with his work. If PBS uses public funds to air the programming, your beef is with them but please don’t start with that straw man.

Exactly my point biznitch. When posting on a joke of a website, every post should be a joke. Posting serious comments just makes you look like an ass. By the way are you obese? I’m doing a survey on people who post online. Please respond.

Rolling Stone’s reporting is so obviously biased its sickening. I’m a moderate and an independent and I can recognize the bias in Bill Moyers’ reporting. Sure, O’Reilly is biased to too, but not nearly to the extent Moyers is.

Wow, conservative O’Reilly supporters read Rolling Stone?

I guess they have to learn to read somewhere!

Can someone please teach them how to think?

Wow, conservative O’Reilly supporters read Rolling Stone?

I guess they have to learn to read somewhere!

Can someone please teach them how to think?

…Don’t follow leaders and watch the parking meters…

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i think for those of us, conservative or otherwise, who actually watched the program, it’s pretty plain to see moyers was quite articulate and responsible with his claims–even above reproach. his type of journalism reports with accumulation of detail and sound logic, whereas oreilly’s does with flag banners and loudness. it really was quite impressive–i hope everyone watches it.

oreilly is out of his league trying to take on moyers. id rather see an intelligent conservative take him on–oreilly’s a joke (that’s plain to all by now, isn’t it?).

If O’reilly is so conservative, then why do conservatives bash him for being too fair weathered. He may come down on the left a lot more than the right but how do you explain his regular bashing of president bush and the way things have gone in Iraq, his pro choice views, his belief that same sex marriage need not be outlawed, and his strong gun control beliefs. Please explain. And i know you aren’t critisizing O’reilly fans if you take rolling stone seriously. I still have received no answer as to why people would support bill moyers or rolling stone on this issue when it is obvious(with video proof) that they are lying. Please you elitist liberals answer me these questions.

I’m gonna fuck yo mamma! Al Franken is the joke. He got cancelled. I’m still kickin ass suckaz!

Al, I’m still waiting on your answer.

“High moral”people, and Guys like O’really,Pat Robertson, Ann Coulter,etc. and all the other conservatives/non progressive/uneducated/xenopho bic, (the list goes on),
these are the closeted child molesters,and racists.
Keep a close eye on these freaks

“High moral”people, and Guys like O’really,Pat Robertson, Ann Coulter,etc. and all the other conservatives/non progressive/uneducated/xe nopho bic, (the list goes on),
these are the closeted child molesters,and racists.
Keep a close eye on these freaks

My vagina is bleeding.

“To be completely fair here…

O’Reilly is a commentator. He’s allowed to show his opinion and, if he wants, he can “ambush” or smear. He’s a comentator. An opinion guy.

Moyers is supposed to be a “real journalist.” Plus, he’s a publically-funded one. So he’s got a different standard. So he really shouldn’t have the option of smearing people. (Also, a little strange that he’d lump the more moderate O’Reilly in with super-conservatives. And stranger that he’d lie about what he said.)

So there’s a difference between a guy who’s supposed to give opinions and be a hard-ass for show, and a guy who’s a public-funded journalist.”

Perfectly said Joe S!

I’ll just add that Bill O’Reilly is a hell of a lot more moderate than Bill Moyers or RS. He is against the death penalty, believes in global warming, supports some gun control, and is pro-choice except for the partial birth stuff, which is moderate TOO!

People hate Bill bc he is very opinionated and exposes and challenges the media elites etc etc with facts and most often dead on commentary.

Haggard, kudos on conveniently breaking down everything you are against into one nice, neat little package of evil. That way, you don’t have to think anymore. “If I don’t like it, it’s bad and it is all the same”. Thank you for another dose of looney, left-wing nonsense.

Wait, I’m confused. Didn’t O’Reilly just catch him lying through his teeth? And, what, Rolling Stone points out how nice and civil Moyer was in his lies? Nicely worder lies are still lies.

Well said Rob, and cooter, if you mean the question about obesity, no i’m not obese i’m very in shape. Weird question though. Yet i have still seen no answers to my questions. Rob stated my points perfectly, o’reilly is not some right wing nut like people claim, if he was how do you explain the aformentioned points? I know i’d like to see one but these people on this board are ignorant and dont have a clue. If you do have a clue fill me in.

I think there are a lot of people posting here that are simply pissed off at the fact that O’Reilly and Fox News continue to get a larger viewership than any other cable news network. Add onto this the fact that Bush won the presidency not once, but twice (despite the failed attempts by Michael Moore and the other limousine liberals to have it otherwise) and it is clear why so many really despise O’Reilly and Fox. Once again, this really has nothing to do with what O’Reilly or Moyers said, but where you fall on the political spectrum. I’m sure many of the liberals here didn’t complain about Michael Moore ambushing people for his films and to come out now and blast O’Reilly seems rather hypocritical.

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Thanks Al. Stay slim! The obese are quickly taking over. Have you been on an airplane lately? I had Michael Moore on one side of me and Rosie’s fat ass on the other. They had to take me off on a stretcher.

Thanks for the slim wishes, i think staying fit is important too…but why can’t anyone answer my questions. If O’reilly is so far right or a conservative nut, why doesn’t he have far right views??????

Funny, Rolling Stone slanders and perjures themselves by posting a video where there own little lickspittle, Moyers, is caught lying. Do you know what a lie is, Rolling Stone? Obviously not. As another wise conservative put it on this very comment page, you’re still in shock that your “typified liberal lies” spurred by Soros and Michael Moore failed to demolish the incumbent President of 2004.

Credibility lost.

Thanks for the slim wishes, i think staying fit is important too…but why can’t anyone answer my questions. If O’reilly is so far right or a conservative nut, why doesn’t he have far right views???

I know this will make a lot of folks mad here, but in this particular instance, I agree with many things that Bill said. He did catch Moyers contradicting himself, he did honestly state that there was quite a considerable amount of international intelligence leading up to the Iraq War, including from the CIA, British MI6, Russian Intelligence, etc.; he did say that he was wrong to promote the war. I agree with him on that issue.

I would certainly criticize him for participating in the smearing of anti-war activists, as well as folks who wanted another investigation into 9/11. I strongly believe that he acted in an unprofessional manner to those people, especially Jeremy Glick.

I also am disappointed when he and Sean Hannity labels anyone who disagrees with them as ‘far left’. It is really a cheap attempt to marginalize opposing views. These methods should be considered to be nothing but cheap and ruthless tactics, as well as an attempt to discourage rational conversation.

Wetbacks smell like habaneros.

It seems that Moyers was making generalizations about media “types” like O’Reilly and not specifically about him. It seems reasonable to me for Moyers to answer “I did not” when confronted pointedly; “You said Bill (O’Reilly) spews venom” especially when taken off guard.

But in the end, if you take a generalization and mix the words around a touch, yes Moyers did lie. He said O’Reilly was one thing and then backed out of the statement when taken off guard. Al you are correct.

BUT… I think we can all agree that a lie of this size really doesn’t reach the monumental lie the Bush administration used to get us into war resulting in the deaths of thousands of human beings. This is Moyers bigger issue, and the one addressed in the documentary. Because so many Americans still believe that Iraq was the cause of 9/11, that Saddam Hussein orchestrated it, and that our entry into Iraq is a result of being attacked we should applaud Moyers for his dedication to educating the deluded American public, not call him out on something that is ultimately inconsequential.

That would be fine Well… if Moyers was acting from a position of true altruism. Unfortunately that is not the case, he is pushing an agenda (as are many on the left AND the right). I find it extremely discouraging that seemingly most in the media are pushing one agenda or the other. There really doesn’t seem to be any objectivity anymore.
Also, if you are going to make the ludicrous claim that Bush lied then you also have to say that MI-6, Russian Intelligence, Czech Intelligence and all the others also lied. After all, it was all of that intel that led to the war.

S.I.M. aren’t we ALL biased? As an American that loves this country and my life and value life an peace in general I am just hands down MAD at how the response to 9/11 and subsequent war in Iraq have been handled, not to mention countless other problems with how the administration has dealt with them. So if I was “reporting” on the issue I would no doubt come across as biased.

And I will concede that “lie” may not be the right word to describe what the Bush Administration did with the bad intelligence from various sources, but they were absolutely wrong to enter a war without concrete facts of their claims. As it’s been said, war should be a last resort and what they did adds up to a knee-jerk reaction. They couldn’t get Bin Laden (most likely because of too much money they were making from his connections) so they went after Iraq because he was “get-able” and was able to appease the American need to GET REVENGE.

Well… I couldn’t agree with you more. I think we are all biased, but it seems that back in the days of Walter Cronkite, there was more objective reporting than today. I don’t know how we get back to that especially during a time like this, when people are so passionate about politics.
I too am upset and disturbed at how things have turned out in Iraq and concede that many things should have been handled differently with respects to the war. And I emphatically agree that war should always be a last resort. Personally, I think Saddam had to go (if for no other reason than for blatanly violating the stipulations of the cease fire) and that the international community should have played a role in that removal. Unfortunately, with France, Russia and Germany all receiving under the table oil deals and bribes from the tyrant, there was no way we were going to get them to enforce the cease fire that was agreed upon at the end of the first Gulf War.
While it appears clear to me that you and I share different views on the topic, I applaud you in your response for your civility, intelligence and willingness to avoid hyperbole. I understand where you are coming from and can appreciate that.

Ditto S.I.M. and thank you.

I do agree with your assessment of the news though, and am also not sure how we can get back to that. It may be impossible to do so given how divided we are as a country. Both sides help with this, and it is unfortunate.

But in a world where “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” (but she blew me) or “Lindsay and Britney are not partying too much” (but end up in rehab) or “Homosexuality is an unforgivable sin.” (but I do have a taste for male prostitutes and illegal drugs) what are we to believe? I think the media, which is split be both sides realizes that the public is generally okay with being lied to, there seems to be no ramifications to it.

And now in the spirit of this board and site I am going to leave the office, get stoned, and listen to some indie rock.

(insert knowing wink here.)

Enjoy your weekend… no matter if you dress to the left or right.

Spot on. I think if more people partook in those “finer things” we’d be a happier society. Enjoy! I know I will.

My God.

The amount of people on here who don’t understand that the media is a business meant to prey on our emotions is disturbing. Fox News has more in common with Hollywood than it does objective reporting. You see all those ads between O’Reilly rants? Those are why he has such “volatile” opinions.

Hey Al,

The issue isn’t Moyers lying, it’s the entire media beating the war drums and quashing dissenting voices. As some have said on this board there were no dissenting voices on t.v. between 2002 and 2004. You cons love to bleed once a month about the big bad government getting into your lives and controlling you; here you have tangible evidence of it, and you went along like the fucking retards you are. If you’re too stupid to understand, I’ll paraphrase: in a democracy, dissenting voices are PATRIOTIC. For Fox News to describe anyone opposed to Bush’s war as unpatriotic is itself unpatriotic. You won’t understand this because you are conservative and therefore, stupid. Your stupidity got us into the Iraq war and reelected the worst president in United States history. And your stupidity prevents you from realizing that the dissenters were RIGHT.

To whine about Moyer’s being caught off guard and lying because of it betrays your adolescent mind. You want to focus on Moyer and completely forget about the WMD and Saddam-AlQaeda lies that Fox News faithfully played over and over again. This is the same tactic Con Media has used over and over again to distract us from the truth: discredit the messenger through some irrelevant bullshit. Now you’re falling for it again, just like you did in 2002.

Oh yeah, and hear hear on the weed. If a con ran on a legalize-the -herb platform I’d vote for him/her. Priorities people…

My God.

Thhe amount of people on here who don’t understand that the media is a business meant to prey on our emotions is disturbing. Fox News has more in common with Hollywood than it does objective reporting. Youu see all those ads between O’Reilly rants? Those are why he has such “volatile” opinions.

Heyy Al,

The issue isn’t Moyers lying, it’s the entire media beating the war drums and quashing dissenting voices. As some have said on this board there were no dissenting voices on t.v. between 2002 and 2004. You cons love to bleed once a month about the big bad government getting into your lives and controlling you; here you have tangible evidence of it, and you went along like the fucking retards you are. If you’re too stupid to understand, I’ll paraphrase: in a democracy, dissenting voices are PATRIOTIC. For Fox News to describe anyone opposed to Bush’s war as unpatriotic is itself unpatriotic. You won’t understand this because you are conservative and therefore, stupid. Your stupidity got us into the Iraq war and reelected the worst president in United States history. And your stupidity prevents you from realizing that the dissenters were RIGHT.

To whine about Moyer’s being caught off guard and lying because of it betrays your adolescent mind. You want to focus on Moyer and completely forget about the WMD and Saddam-AlQaeda lies that Fox News faithfully played over and over again. This is the same tactic Con Media has used over and over again to distract us from the truth: discredit the messenger through some irrelevant bullshit. Now you’re falling for it again, jjust like you did in 2002.

Oh yeah, and hear hear on the weed. If a con ran on a legalize-the -herb platform I’d vote for him/her. Priorities people…

O’Reilly is a disgrace to journalism and, as a media mainstay, he is a dangerously powerful man. But I couldn’t help laughing at his attempt to smear Moyers. The irony is rich.

Wait. Wait. This is great. O’Reilly is proving Moyers right about Moyers’s claims that O’Reilly aggressively smears and intimidates those who disagree with him.

I like how at the beginning of the Factor’s Talking Points segment, O’Reilly says that he was wrong about the case for the Iraq War “just like everyone else”…. Well, not Moyers as I recall. Or the Knight Ridder folks.

No, Bill O, you are not being smeared. You are being exposed. You are the asshole who is smearing reputable journalists (of which you are not) and the voices of dissent – just like Moyers correctly implies.

Rolling Stone should do a special on O’Reilly, you know, further exposing his malevolent hypocrisy and illogic. Here’s one example: When he said that PBS was paying Moyers and that Moyers shouldn’t be receiving tax payer support – well, did he just forget to check, or was that a straight up lie? Moyers himself states clearly that didn’t not receive any money from pbs or cpb, and that he raised it himself from foundations.

Let’s continue… this could be fun!

Anonymous – you are a pile of horse crap.

I’ve seen a bunch of exposees and reports from Moyers. They are fairly done without sensationalism or embelishment. Republicans think they are being targeted because they are the ones with the most to disclose on these reports.
I’ve yet to see any true ‘journalism/reporting’ from O’really, that guy is merely a parrot/commentator/bully. It was funny to see moyers give the petulant kid that was sent to ambush him the run around.

Did anyone else realize that he wasn’t even refuting Moyer’s comments? He was just trying to get Moyer to admit it. Did anyone else notice the ‘terror alert’ message scroll? He’s a joke. Fox noise is a joke. War on terror is a joke. Conservatives will ‘war’ anything now. What’s next? War on road rage? Keep up the shitty, fraudulent, nothingness reporting that you do Bill. You give white supremacists SOMETHING to watch.

Anne Coulter put Bill “O” in a butt sling!

Any reputable journalist would not even Consider O’Reilly in a league of “political commentators/journalists/ancho rs/politacal talk-show hosts, etc.

He is A Republican Hack Job who Spews Out Lies and Tries To Sell It as “Fact”….

He is like Limbaugh(whose out of control with drugs), spouting moral issues while out of control and heavy into lewd & unwanted phone calls to employees and, the last person anyone shoud believe about anything…Unsound and pathetic…

O’Reilly isn’t fit to “Polish Moyers Shoes”…

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