damn it!!!! is nothing sacred anymore? what happened to the ancient way of ‘genetic engineering’? put the plants with the right qualities together and let nature do what it’s supposed to do. Why do they think it’s OK to play God with genetic code? Atlantic Salmon anyone? How about some of that special korn?

I wonder if you get more fucked up? If Monsanto(a St. Louis fave) figures out how many Benjamens stand to be made by legalizing and modifying marijuana, don’t expect it to be illegal for long. Money’s the most powerful force in American politics, and Monsanto’s got a lot of it. Personally, as a Libertarian, I’d be glad to see that day. Too bad I don’t use the stuff, it kind of smells.

I bet they could modify it to not smell . . .

hey hey…smoke weed everyday……oh and jab……yo home i will smell you later

i suddenly feel all warm inside…

I’m sure it will fuck you up more. when they toy around with the genetic make up of things, they have no idea what the results will be.
It will probably fuck you up by becoming extrememly cancerous instead of anti-cancerous as it already is.

If they make it legal after they patent the genetic modification it will make the product as dangerous as adding chemicals to tobbaco in order to get people to become addicted and use it in a daily basis.
These things were once sacred, plants to be used only in rituals and ceremonies as well as healing.
Now, these sacred plants are merely another method of making profit and enslaving their brothers into addiction and disease.

Let me just say that, as a tree-hugging environmentalist AND a pot-smoking hippie, I’m very conflicted about this news.

If Red & Meth went on tour over there,this would be music to their ears.

Yeah, but the market would be vibrant. If they legalized it after genetically modified weed became more prolific, then the price of organic, natural weed would sky rocket. Probably to the price of kine right now. Just look at the prices of Marlboro Reds when compared to American Spirit Blues.

How is pot our number one cash crop? If it’s sold illegally and doesn’t contribute anything to economy, how can we consider it a cash crop? Most of it is made in Latin American countries anyway, right? So I don’t get that, Tim.

Also, wanting to end the “war on drugs” is an idiotic idea. There are huge links between drugs and violence, as well as the health effects. You wouldn’t stop DAs from prosecuting rapists, child molesters, or murderers would you? Neither would you stop people from trying to come up with medicines to combat diseases.

Not to say pot is that serious. I mean, of everything that’s out there, leaf is fairly tame. I think there’s even room to consider legalizing it. However, the “war on drugs” goes so far beyond something stupid like pot. Stopping that altogether is such a terrible idea. Tweaking what we currently are working with makes way more sense. However, making sense was never your kind of thing, was it Tim?

He’s talking about Mexico, fool.

Oh please, drugs bring more violence my ass–the outlawed state of street drugs brings more violence. You can’t take some jack to a collection’s agency or take his house away like the bank when he doesn’t pay his tab. There is no other recourse for dealers and other drug business folks (unless you are the rich politicians on top) to make sure they get what is theirs. The scene is only violent because it’s been forced underground.

If it wasn’t legal to sell coffee and cigarettes, the business dogs in that arena would be busting skulls and filling asses with lead too.

There are far more ill effects with booze and cigarettes than a lot of street drugs, so let’s not bother with that lame argument either.

the six years of emperors parading without clothing has begun to cause us to notice many of the naked lies that have ruled our land since the 30s. note, only yesterday the FBI admitted after 25 years of lying and posturing that they wasted untold dollars and time investigating the national security threat posed by artist, John Lennon. will it take another 25 years to find what Bush spent fighting the Dixie Chicks?

but Tim, c’mon this is going worldwide, man, hit the books a little and spell Colombia when you mean outside the US.

C U in Hell
You bring up some very interesting points. However, I still disagree with you on pot being good for the economy. When you add up the expenses from combating the sale of weed, combating the violence associated with weed, the medical expenses, the anti-drug and drug counciling programs, and special interest programs to help those impoverished indirectly by weed, the benefits are heavy outweighed by the problems, economically. Not to mention that pot is a drug that can lead to harder stuff (I know you don’t want to hear that, but the numbers don’t lie) and many lives are lost or ruined in the drug trade.

There is hypocrisy between pot and alcohol, however. The main difference is that alcohol can be taxed and controled better than weed. Honestly, I would support some form of legalization of pot if there was a way to tax it.

Gathering from you’re strong defense of marijuana, I take it that you do a little puffpuffpass from time to time. I don’t think anything less of people who do smoke it responsibly (same as drinking, really). But, I honestly don’t think it’s a benefit to our economy and I think you would say the same if you really looked at it clearheadedly (no pun intended). With that said, it was very enlightening to hear your side of the issue.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Go back a minute here. I never said pot was “good for the economy.” You said that. I merely said that it contributes to the economy (if you recall, you stated that it didn’t).

C Co, I would be a liar if I told you I’ve never smoked up before – and that I don’t still occasionally partake. But know this about me: I am in my early twenties, I have a college degree, a girlfriend (and a pretty one at that), a new car and a respectable career. I am no pot-head loser. In fact, I am living proof that smoking an occasional bowl does not affect one’s day-to-day functionality in any real or lasting way. (Though I would never argue the antithetical position that getting high “expands your mind” or is in any way good for you. It is purely a recreational activity.)

I would like to see the numbers you speak of – the ones that “don’t lie.” I’ll bet they do.

The facts that “many lives are lost or ruined in the drug trade” and “the benefits are heavily outweighed by the problems” is only true because pot is illegal! My God, man, that’s the whole point! You say that you would support legalizing pot “if there was a way to tax it.” Well, there is a simple way: you just tax it! Where exactly are you confused on this point? You could do it any number of ways – enact a special sales tax that applies only to marijuana, for example. That way, every time someone walks into a smoke shop and buys a dime bag, they’re also helping to pay off our $8 billion-plus national debt. It’s a win-win situation.

Understand that I am not advocating the legalization of anything other than marijuana. Hard drugs are different; although I think our policies on them are due for a re-evaluation as well. But as far as I’m concerned, prosecuting people for smoking marijuana is beyond stupid; it is morally outrageous.

The real drug dealers are the pharmeceutical companies making billions of dollars off of MORE dangerous drugs being distributed to patients that are more addictive and more mind altering but legal, while doctors get a HUGE pay off and politicians get a huge contribution for accecpting their bullshit………

Not sure how to differentiate “good for the economy” and “contributes to the economy”. Enlighten me sometime if you get the chance.

But hey dude, I don’t think you’re some loser stoner at all. I never tried to imply that. Look, according to Tim’s sources, weed is valued as 35 million dollar “cash crop”. We spend way more than that combating the problems associated with weed (I’m too tired to look them up right now, but I personally guarantee that America spends many times more than that combating the drug). Also, people who start out smoking pot are way more likely to do harder drugs than people who haven’t smoked pot. That’s a fact. You may say that we wouldn’t have to spend so much money to control the use and sale of pot if I was just legalized. I would love for that to be true, but it is extremely difficult to tax and control pot because it’s mostly made in other countries (by unlawful dudes) and can be grown individually quite easy. The money we would spend enforcing whatever laws we created about the selling and comsumtion of weed would most likely be very similar to what we are currently spending to combat weed related issues. If it wasn’t, I have a feeling pot would be legalized already. Keep in mind the government is always looking for ways to make money.

You are right about the enforcement of pot users. There are lots of good, hard working peeps with no problems with the law, that smoke once in a while. It’s a waste of tax money prosecuting people like that.

medsagg4medical
As the son of a doctor, I can tell you that most all doctors don’t see the huge amount of money made from the price gouging of pharmaceutical companies. The good ones will usually get samples from the company and give those to patients that can’t afford the uber-expensive stuff. Please realize the difference.

we dont get taxed on growing gardens in our back yards. should they begin to tax that? I think legalizing marijuana would neither help nor hurt the economy because after all I know my garden dosnt have much of an effect.

jonny434

“There are lots of good, hard working peeps with no problems with the law, that smoke once in a while. It’s a waste of tax money prosecuting people like that.”

Quote by me, PAI.

Read what I actually say before calling me a piece of shit, you little pea-brain, cock-breath, retard. Merry Fucking Christmas.

I love smoking pot.
I dislike reading other peoples arguments on the web. It makes me feel even worse about America, which I didn’t know was possible.
Pot makes me feel good!
No, thats a lie.
Pot makes me feel GREAT!!

“You little pea-brained, cock breath, retard.”
Wow. C Co, you really do need to smoke more or get laid occasionally.
PAI never called you a piece of shit, or any other name. He said you were “full of shit”. A point of fact that all of us were already accustomed to. Nor, does your re-quote argue against the point he was making.

Yeah, it does. Look at what he wrote. Criminalization of pot users is what he discussed.

And how does insulting him mean I need to get laid. You swear at and insult someone everytime you make a post, way more than even me. Does that mean you’re not getting laid?

You’ll defend anyone who has the same ideology as you. Do you relize how stupid and mindless that is? He was clearly wrong in what he was attacking me for because he put me into a category where I wasn’t. I even said if it was possible to do so, pot should be legalized.

What the hell is wrong with you guys?! You are talking shit just because you know its me, instead of looking at anything I had to say. So how does that make ME full of shit?

Don’t respond to that either because I’d rather listen to 2 four-year-olds fight over a elmo doll than read what mindless or completely off-base insult you have to throw at me. Thanks for ruining the first civil debate we’ve had on this site for a long time, PIA and Jack. Joyous Kwanzaa.

Piglet,

I never thought I’d say it but I agree with you 100%.

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Piglet,

I never thought I’d say it but I agree with you.
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You sure on that 100% part? I mean a liberal believing that people are responsible for the choices they make is a rare find.

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Why would I not be responsible for the choices I make? I just find the most efficient way to correct my mistakes. The few that I make.

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Move Over Hydroponic, Meet FrankenWeed
Forget soybeans.

Let’s talk genetically modified marijuana.

That’s what Mexican officials are doing, as they’ve discovered plantations grown from a new genetically modified Columbian strain that survives pesticides and can be planted year-round.

This is RoundUp Ready Columbian supremo. Absurd.

I think it’s high time we had a Baker/Hamilton commission to look at the war on drugs and dream up a graceful exit.

Because let’s face it. If pot is your nation’s top cash crop, and the Columbians are going all Monsanto on the DEA’s ass, the gig is up.

– Tim Dickinson

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Why would I not be responsible for the choices I make? I just find the most efficient way to correct my mistakes. The few that I make.
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Well liberals usually paint people as victims, never responsible for themselves. It is not the drug addicts fault, it is society’s fault. That is the typical liberal line.

Then apparently I’m not your “typical liberal.” People should be able to do whatever drugs they want until it interferes with thier work and personal lives.

jonny20

Marijuana #1 cash crop for US $34 billion/yr. Calif. #1 cash crop $15 billion/yr.Most high quality is either from Ca. or homegrown locally in grow houses.Vancouver, B.C., Amsterdam also large producers most european hash is afghan and morrocian.Calif. also produces its own “bubble hash” The feds will tell you all the pot and hash is smuggled in by terrorists.we havent smoked mexi or colombian since sinsemilla was discovered in 1979 potency determined by THC/CBD’s

Personally, I think that there isn’t anything too wrong with the “Pot Scene” whether you legalize it or not people will find a way to do it, you might as well legalize it. Hell, it might even help the economy as a whole. Take a look at most public high schools, thats where half of students’ hard earned money is going. Its a big moral argument rather than an actual right or wrong issue.

Smoke the ghanja all day, my friend, as I put bombs in mail boxes for pure political entertainment. It’s a rotten, filthy business, the marijuana game, We should should legalize it and treat it like what it is, a weed.

Just say……. Legalize it!!!!!!!!!

When people came back from Nam,they were hooked on alcohol,heroine,speed and tobacco.
the weed in Nam put the weed at Woodstock to shame.Many of the people who were protesting against the war weren’t just pot smoking hippies sitting on their asses,these people had been there and knew what it was all about.
Some of the biggest alcoholics,ie drunks,are ex military and ex law enforcement

When people came back from Nam,they were hooked on alcohol,heroine,speed and tobacco.
the weed in Nam put the weed at Woodstock to shame.Many of the people who were protesting against the war weren’t just pot smoking hippies sitting on their asses,these people had been there and knew what it was all about.
Some of the biggest alcoholics,ie drunks,are ex military and ex law enforcement

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