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Edwards Enters 2008 Race

12/16/06, 4:20 pm EST

John Edwards, late the Democratic Party’s sunshine veep candidate, is running again in 2008. Unlike last cycle, when he made his announcement on the Daily Show, he’ll be announcing from New Orleans’ ground zero, the Lower 9th Ward.

Early… OK, ridiculously premature Iowa polling shows this is a smart move. Edwards’ persistent under-the-radar campaigning in farm country has made him the frontrunner, surpassing even home-state governor Tom… Vilsack! 


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Jab | 12/17/2006, 9:11 pm EST

Wow, did he have his John Kerry removed? Must have a good doctor, I can’t see the scar . . . wonder if they froze it off or just burned it. Either way, good for Edwards.

Jed Clampett | 12/17/2006, 11:19 pm EST

should have been the candidate instead of that robot last time huh? He doesn’t have that much of a chance with barak mania and hillary power in the ring as well though.

Jab | 12/18/2006, 8:10 am EST

I’m just wondering when Barack and Hillary are going to shack up and become an unstoppable donkey, pillaging the political country side. Both minorities, both very skilled politically, his pizazz(for a politician) and her political experience and skill should make for a formidable combination.

bi-curious purple | 12/18/2006, 8:47 am EST

edwards & gore?

Anonymous | 12/18/2006, 12:50 pm EST

If you are in any way excited about Obama, Edwards, or Hillary as potential democratic nominees for ‘08, you are an idiot. Apparently the Dems are hell bent on screwing the pooch in ‘08 as well. Hillary and Edwards are both the equivalent of a 10 day old turd sandwich that has been warmed over, garnished, and served on fine china so as to give the appearance that since it is being served with such refinements and attention to presentation, it must be a fine delicacy. Barack Obama is the political equivalent of the “wubby” or security blanket that many children have in their infancy but hopefully grow out of. “The world seems so big an’ scawy wight now; dis baby wansa vote for da nice light skinned black man who gave dat pwetty speech dat one time” We are screwed people; apply for foreign citizenship asap.

hillary clinton | 12/18/2006, 1:20 pm EST

i am in love with JONATHAN EDWARDS!!!!

Jab | 12/18/2006, 1:20 pm EST

Because of people like you, who won’t attempt to understand and challenge the status quo, yes, we are screwed. Because of people like me, who spend too much time on the RS boards, talking to idiots like you, we are also screwed. Maybe there’s a light at the end of the tunnel, but all the more probable is there being a furnace.

bob dylan | 12/18/2006, 1:21 pm EST

john edwards is hot!!!

jib | 12/18/2006, 1:22 pm EST

no because of people like you………you baby killer

hillary clinton | 12/18/2006, 1:23 pm EST

yeah jab you are an idiot!

god | 12/18/2006, 1:25 pm EST

i have known you all your life jab….and you are a psychotic freak who beats up mailmen

Anonymous | 12/18/2006, 1:49 pm EST

Jab, you seem to implicate that I don’t understand that I am part and parcel of the quivering masses who are standing idly by while our country’s ideals are ass raped. You could not be further from the truth. I wake up every day and shudder at the waste of space I have become. It has taken me many long years to discover that I am the spawn of mindless automatons and I have extensive personal work that I need to do to drag myself out of the intellectual and spiritual mire I have sunk myself into. But that personal fact aside, I still have no problem with pointing out the slimy pig-fuck orgy that the repubs have established themselves as masters of and that the dems seem all to willing to place themselves squarely in the middle of, like some great muddied sow, legs splayed, bulbous sweating teats swinging wildly as it is taken from both ends by the spiked appendages of media hype and beltway pimpery

C Co... aka I Smell Propaganda | 12/18/2006, 3:43 pm EST

Nice pose John. Looks like his football pic for Harvard or something.

San Soucri | 12/18/2006, 3:44 pm EST

It is very possible that an Edwards-Obama ticket may emerge.

Hopefully Hillary goes the way of Howard Dean.

Anonymous | 12/18/2006, 4:02 pm EST

Folks, pay close attention to San Soucri; he/she seems to really have their finger on the pulse of the early preliminary election field. Very insightful stuff….

Jab | 12/18/2006, 5:53 pm EST

Well, now that I know how you really feel, we should start a help group: Americans Anonymous.

Is that even a current picture of Edwards? It may just be the photography, but he didn’t look that young in ‘04.

Jed Clampett | 12/18/2006, 7:14 pm EST

Ever wonder why Hillary scares them so? are they scared she’s gonna take away their monopoly on power and give it back to the people? Possibly the mere thought of having a woman in power as it was in ancient times scares them senseless. With Obama as Vice Prez they would probably become a force for change and reason in this country. Yup, the greedy and enslavers are having spincter spasms and are doing whatever they can to encite theyr minions and make the blind dog followers bark and bite as hard as possible.

C Co... aka I Smell Propaganda | 12/18/2006, 9:28 pm EST

What?

Hallzee | 12/19/2006, 9:59 am EST

Way to go Edwards, Announce your running for President from The 9th Ward in New Orleans. Exploiting the poor people of New Orleans are we? Are you claiming to be the Super Hero to save them from the evil Bush? Why don’t you announce it from downtown Baghdad while your at it? Save us all the tired speeches from 04 about your the son of a Blue Collar father. Big Deal! You have Zero Chance of winning. Save your money. Or better yet, give that campaign money to New Orleans instead re-distributing my money.

Jed Clampett | 12/19/2006, 10:15 am EST

hey hallzee, your money already got redistributed, to the tune of $64BILLION destined for New Orleans passed through the wonderful folks at Halliburton who has the main contract and helped set up all the little smaller companies that manage the smaller contracts taking 30-40% of the moneys value at each step. Go to new orleans and see for yourself their amazing works. All that money was able to rebuild new orleans in a new way and provide a new model for dealing with the poor, destitue and uneducated. YEA RIGHT!!!! COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATIVES INDEED!!!

Capitalist Pig | 12/19/2006, 4:45 pm EST

Jed Clampett | 12/18/2006, 7:14 pm EST

Ever wonder why Hillary scares them so? are they scared she’s gonna take away their monopoly on power and give it back to the people? Possibly the mere thought of having a woman in power as it was in ancient times scares them senseless. With Obama as Vice Prez they would probably become a force for change and reason in this country. Yup, the greedy and enslavers are having spincter spasms and are doing whatever they can to encite theyr minions and make the blind dog followers bark and bite as hard as possible.
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What a joke. Take the power away and give it to the people. The only people she wants to have power are the ones in goverment. Her and Obama would be a force for socialism and goverment handouts, and that is not reason. Anyone with common sense can see the stupidity of socialism. So tell me jed who are the greedy enslavers? Those who actually expect you to work for a living and actually look out for yourself?

Jab | 12/19/2006, 5:24 pm EST

Laissez-faire capitalism is great, but attaining such a state requires revolution. All our current political figures embrace Socialist ideals, hence our current status quo, which is a poor hybridization of capitalism and socialism. The owners of this country have tasted socialism, and they like it, the only reason we don’t embrace it fully, i.e., nominally, is that doing so would invalidate their claims on the market and thus the heart of our system. There’s a great deal of truth in the term “Liberal Commi”, but it’s become useless now that Conservatives have lost their Jeffersonian vision, trying to hybridize religion and government. Both ideologies have appeal, but minarcho capitalism(Libertarian ideology) is far more reasonable; sadly, there aren’t any true capitalists in government.

That’s why I have no faith in humanity. But what’s there to do, except try?

Capitalist Pig | 12/19/2006, 6:20 pm EST

Jab you make some very valid points. The political figures like socialism because it guarantees votes. Once you get the people addicted, and relying on,the handouts, there is no way they will vote for anyone who tries repeal them. But the handouts require somebody to pay for them, and the productive people will quickly tire of supporting the unproductive. Why work if all your money is going to support someone who does not? And you are right about the Conservatives losing their vision. They have tried to become lite democrats. Hopefully someone will come along to put the conservative movement back on course before ‘08.

An interesting note on the liberals favorite two: Hillary and Obama. It seems the new boogie man for the left is Wal-Mart. Seems Obama and Hillary both have jumped on the bandwagon (must be required to get liberal votes). But Hillary use to sit on the Wal-Mart board, and Obama’s wife sits on the board of Treehouse Foods, inc., and recieves $45,000. And guess who their number one customer is? Wal-Mart. Seems both of “the forces for change and reason” have ties to “the greedy and enslavers”, and both seem to have made quite a bit of money because of these ties.

C Co... aka I Smell Propaganda | 12/19/2006, 7:05 pm EST

What the hell are you doing back on RS, Pig? This is the no-logic zone. ;)

Jed Clampett | 12/19/2006, 7:56 pm EST

Isn’t it funny how those that cry foul when their money goes to help poor people go to school or receive medical care are the same ones defending walmart’s ability to get tax breaks and exxon’s ability to get incentives or airlines being bailed out of their management mistakes?
Could it be that they prefer entitlements to the wealthy and graves for the less well to do?
They cry out over government handouts but consider bridges to nowhere a good investment.
When a revolution hits them, they will say it is merely criminals and thugs, yet fail to see what drove those people to such desperate acts.
You know, these imbeciles are too entrenched, the only hope for the planet seems to be to destroy the virus called humanity. A few fevers and chills should shake them loose. global warming followed by ice age anyone?

Capitalist Pig | 12/19/2006, 8:46 pm EST

C Co… aka I Smell Propaganda …

I just took a break, plus I saw jed trying to beat up on you on a few posts, so I figured it was time to get back in the thick of things.

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Jed, I for one do not support coportate wellfare, nor goverment pork. No true conservative does. But I see you dodged the questions I asked. I will ask again. Who are the greedy enslavers? Wal-Mart? No one has to work at Wal-Mart, therefore it is not slavery. Unlike the taxes I pay to support liberal policies, the workers at Wal-Mart have a choice. If Wal-Mart pays so bad why don’t these people go to work somewhere else? The fact is the leftist attack on Wal-Mart is not about workers and benefits, it’s about union dues and power for union bosses who give alot of money to the dems. Wal-Mart has put alot of inefficent businesses, with union workers, out of business. And Wal-Mart is not unionized. The unions need more people paying dues, that is what the left’s attack is all about.

As for this quote:

“You know, these imbeciles are too entrenched, the only hope for the planet seems to be to destroy the virus called humanity. A few fevers and chills should shake them loose. global warming followed by ice age anyone?”

Liberals like yourself are the only virus that needs to be cured.

Word | 12/19/2006, 8:56 pm EST

Piglet,
Do you believe in monopolies? Do you believe in the governments power to regulate them? (hint: Wal Mart is not a monopoly).

Jab | 12/20/2006, 12:20 am EST

Word, are you trying to say that the government doesn’t care about monopolies? I would beg to differ. The only reason they haven’t broken Microsoft down is because they can’t function without it. That’s about the only real monopoly that I can think of. Certainly, after Reagan intervened with the fall of Chrysler, there should be little doubt about the government’s market concerns. If they have no problem keeping a company afloat, they should have no problem putting one under.

Then again, I’m not sure of what you were speaking.

Jab | 12/20/2006, 9:11 am EST

BY THE WAY

Jed Clampett | 12/20/2006, 11:18 am EST

oh yea, they care about their monopolies, they like to maintain them and grow them. That is why a country like south korea can offer their people low priced communications and internet yet our country tries to consolidate the communication networks into 3 or 4 major carriers so they can charge excessive prices. At the same time, they reduce personnel and increase pay for executives. And in the true ‘capitalist’ sense(sarcasm) they help enact laws preventing poor communities from providing cheaper, faster alternatives. What we are experiencing at this time is not Capitalism, it is corporate totalitarianism without any regard for the health of the people, the country or the planet. Unfortunately, our politicians are well complicit in this and no one seems able to recognize it and act upon it. those that do are quickly marginalized, labled as cooks, communists, liberals, tree huggers etc. all designed to prevent us from getting at the true nature of our problems.

Capitalist Pig | 12/20/2006, 3:25 pm EST

Hallzee – Good to be back. True what you said about Edwards. I strayed from the point but could not let jed’s bs go unchallenged.

Capitalist Pig | 12/20/2006, 3:29 pm EST

Word | 12/19/2006, 8:56 pm EST

Piglet,
Do you believe in monopolies? Do you believe in the governments power to regulate them? (hint: Wal Mart is not a monopoly).
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What are you talking about? Where did I say anything about monopolies? Hint: I know Wal-Mart is not a monopoly, nor do they enslave. So what is your point? And jed who are the enslavers?

baconballs | 12/20/2006, 6:36 pm EST

You are an idiot. I cannot believe what RS has become. You need to get over yourself. You aren’t clever or interesting.

Word | 12/20/2006, 9:44 pm EST

I wasn’t implying the government doesn’t care about monopolies I think they do. I was asking the Pig what his limit of government intervention into capitalism was. (fed rates, monopolies, etc…)

C Co... aka I Smell Propaganda | 12/20/2006, 11:00 pm EST

“ridiculously premature”

Sounds like something Mrs. Dickinson would say. JK, naturally.

Mike Burns | 12/21/2006, 2:36 pm EST

Haven’t yet seen anybody talk about the Democratic take on the war.

From what I can see, all that brave campaign talk about pulling out of Iraq is about as substantial as the dew on yesterday morning’s grass.

I don’t hear Hilary or Obama, for instance, saying anything remotely like that. I think they’re content to let things ride till ‘08 in hopes the issue will drag down the GOP candidate for president.

Capitalist Pig | 12/22/2006, 3:56 pm EST

Jed Clampett | 12/20/2006, 11:18 am EST

oh yea, they care about their monopolies, they like to maintain them and grow them. That is why a country like south korea can offer their people low priced communications and internet yet our country tries to consolidate the communication networks into 3 or 4 major carriers so they can charge excessive prices. At the same time, they reduce personnel and increase pay for executives.
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Our country tries to consolidate them into 3 or 4 major carriers? WTF are you talking about? There was only one major carrier, the goverment broke it up, thanks to Reagan. Before that a long distance phone call cost about $6.00 a minute. The market has consolidated it into 3 or 4 companies. They have reduced personnel because technology has advanced and the number of people needed to do the job is no longer what it use to be. Try knowing what your talking about for once.

Word | 12/22/2006, 5:32 pm EST

Piglet,
Would you describe the 3-4 phone companies’ hold over the communications business to be an oligopoly? Would you defend it?

Capitalist Pig | 12/27/2006, 8:52 pm EST

Word,
Once again you show you lack of intelligence and in typical liberal fashion have to resort to insults. The fact is your question was answered. But let’s look at your first post.

“Word | 12/22/2006, 5:32 pm EST

Piglet,
Would you describe the 3-4 phone companies’ hold over the communications business to be an oligopoly? Would you defend it?”

First off there are more than 3-4 phone companies in this country. In fact there are over 50 Cell phone companies in the U.S., and even more landline companies. Hardly a monopoly.

“This is my favorite statement:

“By your post, you believe that oligopolies are good things because they lower the price of goods a little bit, but not as much as they’d be lowered by true capitalism: proof you ain’t no capitalist, you’re an apologist for the rich.”

The fact is the break up of the phone monopoly lowered costs more than a little bit. But you want to complain that if it were true capitalism it would be lower. The fact is your a liberal and you, and all your fellow looters, hate capitalism, but now you want to try to use it to make a point. The fact is you are envious of people who are successful, and want the goverment to control everything, and take from doers and give to the lazy. That is always the liberal intent, but liberals always lie about it and try to mask it behind some noble purpose..helping the poor(aka income redistribution) or saving the evironment(aka income redistribution). It is kind of ironic how liberals always have to hide thier true intentions.

“Were you a man, you’d realise that success precedes monopoly. It takes a government of the people to regulate success so that it does not translate into tyranny. You obviously missed the lesson. But then, that’s what I’d expect from a redneck monkey raised in the south.”

Wow, what an intelligent comment. Did you attend Harvard?

Word | 12/28/2006, 12:31 am EST

Capitalist Pig: “Once again you show you lack of intelligence and in typical liberal fashion have to resort to insults.”

Capitalist Pig: “Hey moron, you can start a phone company anytime you want…”
Capitalist Pig: “Liberals like yourself are the only virus that needs to be cured”
Capitalist Pig: “Try knowing what your talking about for once.”

Actually Porky I resorted to insults by following your glowing example. Thanks.
And I had four questions, not one. You answered none of them, unless you count flip flopping on the number of communications companies as an answer to my question about oligopolies.

Capitalist Pig: “First off there are more than 3-4 phone companies in this country. In fact there are over 50 Cell phone companies in the U.S., and even more landline companies. Hardly a monopoly.”

Capitalist Pig: “The [Communications] market has consolidated it into 3 or 4 companies.”

So which is it Pork Chop? I can just see you windsurfing. Or are we now making a distinction between phone companies and cell phone companies because it suits your “argument?”

Capitalist Pig: “The fact is you are envious of people who are successful”

Is that so? Actually I regard myself as very successful thank you very much, making above the average American salary a couple years out of school and on track to land in a comfortable upper middle class picket-fence suburb with my children attending Ivy League universities. Guess I’ll just have to do that before some greedy multi million rock star exec-and his even greedier shareholders- fuck all my hard work up and decide to outsource my job to China. Good thing I picked a career that probably won’t be outsourced but you never know right?

And in your lunacy you glossed over the fact that government needs to be involved at some level in capitalism lest it become tyranny. Even Milton Friedman recognized this. Not sure why this is such a hard concept for a con to grasp either. You people are usually all nuts about jailing criminals and ecstatic over the government’s regulation of things like smoking weed, public urination, rape, murder, etc… wonder why you give capitalism a pass. Could it be that you’re really just controlled by right wing radio broadcasters who are the agents of the rich? And that your support for the opinions they’re selling lines their pockets? Naw way!

Capitalist Pig: “Wow, what an intelligent comment. Did you attend Harvard?”

No I attended Cornell. Sorry. But either way I busted my ass to get there. Cornell is the hardest Ivy to stay in so I busted my ass to get good grades. Now I’m busting my ass, 10 hours a day five days a week at a medium size corporation in a major metropolitan area in a blue state. Y’know how I did it? That’s right! BY BEING LAZY.

Now porky, should I even bring up the fact that the liberals in the blue states subsidize the fat asses in the reds? Should I go there? Should I bring up farm subsidies? Should I touch on the fact that as a whole the red states have a worse high school dropout record? Should I even bring up the fact that for the last six years, the federal loot which was mostly made by the blue states went disproportionately to the red ones under the republican congress? Should I even fuck your argument completely around and prove that it is not liberals who are “looters” it is morbidly obese conservatives in the red states?

Fuck, should I even analyze why you regard liberals as “lazy” in the first place? I’ll give you a hint: it ain’t because of income redistribution (the idea that middle class people would be against receiving more money at the expense of the rich is simply insane). I’ll tell you why it really is: you are racist. You connect the liberal’s support for the civil rights movement with your understanding of that movement to be consisting of nothing but welfare parasites. Then you illogically assume that because of that support, liberals share traits of welfare recipients (like being lazy.) It’s an assumption based on idiocy and you only hold it in the first place because of the republican party’s success at stoking the innate racism in the south, where you’re from. Your innate racism stems from the fact that the north kicked your lazy ass in the civil war and took away your primary economic engine: slavery.

And fuck. By the way, how can you possibly describe a single mother working three jobs just to get by as lazy? That’s insane. But again, that’s what I’d expect from a stupid monkey from the south.

Capitalist Pig | 12/30/2006, 1:19 am EST

Word

“And I had four questions, not one. You answered none of them, unless you count flip flopping on the number of communications companies as an answer to my question about oligopolies.

Capitalist Pig: “First off there are more than 3-4 phone companies in this country. In fact there are over 50 Cell phone companies in the U.S., and even more landline companies. Hardly a monopoly.”

Capitalist Pig: “The [Communications] market has consolidated it into 3 or 4 companies.””

Flip Flopping? There is no flip flopping, you took the above out of context from another post and combined it with my response to yours, nice touch of liberal journalism. The statement about 3-4 phone companies was actually a post by jed and I responded by repeating his post followed by a question mark. But nice try.

“Could it be that you’re really just controlled by right wing radio broadcasters who are the agents of the rich? And that your support for the opinions they’re selling lines their pockets? Naw way!”

You really got some jealousy issues. I don’t know who goes on more anti-rich rants you are jed. Get over it. And I don’t listen to talk radio. And so you went to Cornell. Could it be that you are really just brainwashed by some washed up marxist hippy professor and now repeat everything he told you to say? Good chance.

I am not suprised to see you resort to the racism charge. That is so predictable from a liberal. The reason I call liberals lazy is because anyone who wishes to take what is not thiers so they do not have to go out and earn it themselves is lazy, and a thief to boot. And the only party stoking racism is the democrats who use it constantly to get votes, it makes up for thier lack of actual ideas.

And give it a rest with the civil war bullshit. You think that is really going to get under my skin? It happened almost a hundred years before my birth, so I really do not care who fucking won. The fact is my family was in Ireland at the time.

Capitalist Pig | 1/3/2007, 5:11 pm EST

Pig, if you were our commander during the revolutionary war I’d shudder to think where we’d be now. You’d swoon over King George simply because you thought he was a “winner” at the time and give the entire U.S. population up to him as slaves to his “winning” will. The idea of weakly prostrating before the “winner” is un-American and leads me to believe you are an Islamic terrorist trying to destroy the ideals our nation was founded on.

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You would not have been worried about me during the revolution because you would not have been on the side of revolution. Let see…wealthy land owners lead a revolt, and one of the main reasons for the revolt is taxes. Not a liberal on earth that would a)side with a wealthy land owner b) revolt against taxes.

And the fact is the communications industry is not a monopoly nor oligopoly. If so how would you explain upstarts like Vonage? Not something that could be done in an oligopoly. And I did not need to bring cell carriers into the conversation, it was simply easier to count the numbers, because the fact is that there are well over 50 landline carriers, many of them regional. And cell phones are communications devices, and the original post by jed was about the goverment allowing communications to be run by a few companies.

Word | 1/6/2007, 1:33 am EST

“You would not have been worried about me during the revolution because you would not have been on the side of revolution.”
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Exactly: you (porkchop) would’ve been on King George’s side, pining for the “winners.”

And about the “50 landline phone companies.” Name them. And describe how competitive they are against Verizon, AT&T, and Quest.

Finally, I’ve really stumped you on the monopoly thing haven’t I? You can’t answer it. You’re lost. But then, that’s what I’d expect from a stupid southern monkey.

Word | 1/6/2007, 1:58 am EST

By the way,
King George was the rich during the revolution. Washington represented the poor fighting against the rich. You attempt to deny Americans that rightful David and Goliath birthright. For that you should have a rock thrown into your head.

Capitalist Pig | 1/6/2007, 7:04 pm EST

BellSouth, CenturyTel, Alascom, Alaska Power and Telephone Company, Anchorage Telephone Utility, Qwest, AT&T, Verizon, Comcast, Cavalier, Hawaiian Telcom, Pacific LightNet, Sandwich Isles Communications, Time Warner Telecom, Cincinnati Bell, sprint, Tidewater Telecom/Lincolnville Telephone Company, Cavalier Telephone, TDS Metrocom, Westphalia Telephone Company,Lennon Telephone Company, KLM Telephone Company, Bretton Woods Telephone, Dixville Telephone Company, Dunbarton Telephone Company, Granite State Telephone, TDS, Rochester Telephone Company, Embarq, Dickey Rural Communications, Bek Telephone, Consolidated Telephone, Santel Communications, Grandecom, West Wisconsin Telcom, 24-7 Telcom, Tri-County Communications, Richland-Grant Telephone, Baldwin Telcom… I think that is enough. So much for a monopoly.

Capitalist Pig | 1/6/2007, 7:08 pm EST

Word | 1/6/2007, 1:33 am EST

“You would not have been worried about me during the revolution because you would not have been on the side of revolution.”
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Exactly: you (porkchop) would’ve been on King George’s side, pining for the “winners.”

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Hey yankee genius can you read? Above is my post and your response to it. Read what I said, I said you would not have been on the side of the revolution. Then you respond as if I had said I would not be on the side of revolution. I thought a brilliant liberal yankee would be able to read and comprehend, guess not.

Word | 1/7/2007, 5:14 am EST

Porky,

Wow. I’d think even an anti-genius confederate would be able to read what he himself wrote:

“You would not have been worried about me during the revolution because you would not have been on the side of revolution.”

If I wouldn’t have worried about you it could only mean you were on my side, which you so confidently described as being “not…on the side of revolution.” So in your words we’re both anti revolutionaries. (Your words).

The fact is that the founders weren’t rebelling against taxation itself. If they were it would be unconstitutional to tax anybody. They were rebelling against the fact thier taxes were going to a government they had no say in. It is a fight for democracy; it has nothing to do with taxation itself. Way to force your modern ideas onto something that happened in 1776.

And congrats on listing countless phone companies. You never described how competitive they were with either Verizon, Quest or AT&T, a prerequisite to saying “so much for a monopoly.” Try again piggybacker.

Capitalist Pig | 1/7/2007, 3:13 pm EST

And congrats on listing countless phone companies. You never described how competitive they were with either Verizon, Quest or AT&T, a prerequisite to saying “so much for a monopoly.” Try again piggybacker.

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Hey loudmouth, How competitive they are has nothing to do with a monopoly. Monopoly means only one company exists…period. If you have a choice there is no monopoly, the sucess of the various competitors is irrelevant.

“The fact is that the founders weren’t rebelling against taxation itself. If they were it would be unconstitutional to tax anybody.”

You might want to check the constitution, most taxes were forbidden, and the current income tax structure required a constitutional amendment. But one would think a loudmouth yankee elistist would know that, guess not.

The sixteenth amendment:
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration

Capitalist Pig | 1/7/2007, 3:28 pm EST

Word – Since you are too stupid or too lazy to know what a monopoly really is, I will provide you with the definition.

“In economics, a monopoly (from the Latin word monopolium – Greek language monos, one + polein, to sell) is defined as a persistent market situation where there is only one provider of a product or service. Monopolies are characterized by a lack of economic competition for the good or service that they provide and a lack of viable substitute goods.”

Let’s see-requirement for a monopoly one provider for service. Lanline phones provided by many companies..no monopoly.

Second requirement-Lack of viable subsitute for the good or service. Cell phones are a viable substitute for landline phones, and over 50 cell phone carriers exist. No monopoly.

Enough about this subject, too much time has been wasted arguing with you about this, but that is what happens when attempting to debate with a child.

Word | 1/7/2007, 5:35 pm EST

Way to define three companies control of the landline market as a monopoly. It’s an oligopoly.

It’s common to define a market oligopoly as the condition when the largest four companies control over 40% of the marketshare.

In landline communications-as of Jan 2005, I’m too lazy to find stats for this year- Verizon, SBC, BellSouth and Qwest took up 68% of the marketshare. With the AT%T Bellsouth merger last month this figure only rises.

In the wireless market the top THREE companies (Verizon, Cingular and AT&T Wireless) controlled 60% marketshare.

If you don’t admit the telecommunications industry is an oligopoly and that it should be broken up, there is something wrong with you. Oh yeah, you’re from the south.

Capitalist Pig | 1/7/2007, 6:31 pm EST

“If you don’t admit the telecommunications industry is an oligopoly and that it should be broken up, there is something wrong with you. Oh yeah, you’re from the south.”

I don’t think it should be broken up because prices are competitive, and there are plenty of companies in the industry. If they can’t compete that is not the goverments business. They need to improve their companies. But then again I am not a brainwashed ivy league moron.

Word | 1/7/2007, 8:40 pm EST

“I don’t think it should be broken up because prices are competitive”

Prices would be even lower if these companies were broken up. What have the phone companies ever done for you? Why do you support them so doggedly? You would benefit if they were broken up. Why don’t you want to benefit?

Capitalist Pig | 1/8/2007, 12:15 pm EST

Word | 1/7/2007, 8:40 pm EST

“I don’t think it should be broken up because prices are competitive”

Prices would be even lower if these companies were broken up. What have the phone companies ever done for you? Why do you support them so doggedly? You would benefit if they were broken up. Why don’t you want to benefit?
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I really do not think you would get lower prices if you break these companies up, and I do not like goverment meddling when there is no need. What have the phone companies done for me? Well they provide me with a reliable method of communicating at a reasonable cost. What have they done to you?

Word | 1/9/2007, 8:46 pm EST

So lame man.

Let Them Eat Cake | 1/13/2007, 1:56 am EST

Sorry, when I hear the word-Turd, I automatically think of Rove, Cheney and, Bush…

You know, Annonymussy, your group-ugh! Need to wash my hands, Could never defined BottomDwellers better.

And, get a clue, maybe Edwards wanted to remind the media/the country how badly the money that supposedly went to restore homes and businesses in New Orleans seemed to fall right into of the pockets of Halliburton, Oil companies and real estate Developers… Red Flag!

Republican coffers must be at an all-time Full…

Speaking of surgery, it sounds like it will take ever so many surgeons to remove the money bags of corruption and graft from various Republican Politicians hands. Gonna take lots and lots of Doctors to separate the DeLays, Frists, Cunninghams(watched that one-very painful, hm?), Neys, Nois, Abramofs, Cheneys, Roves, Bushs, etc.(Maybe the entire GOP need to hand over their ill-gotten loot….

Maybe some Brain Surgery needs to be practiced among the GOP-Greed, Cheating, Fraud, Money-laundering, hiding child predators, seems to
be transferred -like a bad infection- from one Republican politican to the next…

McCain the Republican Flip/Flop Boy, who is a bit masochistic-just so submissive to the imbecile(Bush) who helped him lose the last Repube Primary…

Or, we have that paragon of Virtue-Giuliani, who was Mum on the Ports Deal, Silent on the administration’s handling(Horrendous)on Katrina, Quiet on the War and Occupation of Iraq…

Or maybe he is just busy, again, hiding mistresses and girlfriends from his wife/daughter and having his girlfriend move in with his family(There go those ‘ole Republican “Family Values”)they just seem to burst out all over…

Romney won’t have a problem with girlfriends and his marriage-they are part of his religion-polygamy is fun for those Mormon guys….

Is your Party’s Fondness for Fascism still in play? Bush have anymore Wars up his(Whoops)Sleeve?

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