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All The News That Fits. . . Pentagon’s Withdrawal Plans, Kissinger Spots Another Quagmire and More

11/20/06, 11:00 am EST

  • Vice-President Dick Cheney: Democratic congressional victories will not thwart plans to invade, bomb or destabilize Iran.
  • Prime Minister Tony Blair: War in Afghanistan is a “generation-long struggle.”
  • Pentagon report favors sharp troop increases, followed by five to 10 year withdrawal on the sly. “The Decider” remainsnon-committal
  • Democrat Rep. Charles Rangel calls on Republican leaders to reinstate the draft: “I don’t see how anyone can support the war and not support the draft.”
  • Apocalypse Now Redux: Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, Nixonian policy maker who negotiated an end to Vietnam, rules out the possibility of a military victory in Iraq.
  • Advocacy organization Human Rights Watch finds “serious administrative, procedural and substantive legal defects,” in Saddam Hussein trial, dismissing the verdict as unsound.

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C Co... aka I Smell Propaganda | 11/20/2006, 4:29 pm EST

A couple of months ago, RS just slammed Kissinger, saying he was the architect of the last failed US war, in Vietnam (completely untrue). Now that he’s saying something they agree with, they protray him better as to serve as a more credible source. Not only is that hypocrisy, flip flopping, and agenda forcing, it’s striaght up poor and dangerous journalism.

Jed Clampett | 11/20/2006, 11:40 pm EST

don’t you hate it when smeller feller just spits out propaganda points for the hell of it. Face if buddy, your bunch of corrupt pedophile protectin buddies got trounced. Go cry in your beer somewhere and leave RS be already.

C Co... aka I Smell Propaganda | 11/21/2006, 4:04 pm EST

Actually I had a valid point. You stoop down to person insults because you’re not smart enough to prove me wrong civilly. And disagreeing with RS doesn’t make you a Republican. That’s idiotic, close-minded logic. If the Presidental elections were held today I’d vote for Obama (2nd choice McCain). Look, you don’t know me and you have nothing intelligent to say to disprove my argument. You’re just an angry person who thinks he’s always right, and can’t stand people who disagree with him. Look Jed, I agree with you sometimes, I disagree with you sometimes, but I never take malicious shots at you because I always try to respect people. Think about that next time you’re about fling mud at my eye.

Jed Clampett | 11/22/2006, 12:01 am EST

Wasn’t it you that was attacking me personally a few posts back. and now you’re crying fowl? give me a break. As I recall you were also correcting me because I missed typed some words. As if you are so infallible. I’ve made my points well enough to have you try and knock them down with the same tactics I am now using on you. So now you argue that it’s not fair. what a pussy.

C Co... aka I Smell Propaganda | 11/22/2006, 4:30 pm EST

I don’t attack you unless you attack me. Also, I’m pretty sure I didn’t critize your spelling. I don’t care if people spell stuff wrong because I know I do. And when I attack you (in retaliation mind you), it’s based off of some real issue, not just to spew personal insults (like “you pussy”). That’s the difference.

Word | 11/22/2006, 6:44 pm EST

Uhh… how is this portraying Kissinger “better?” “Nixonian” is never a word any sane person would use as a compliment.

The obvious point of the post was to draw a parallel between Vietnam and Iraq. The implication isn’t that Kissinger is a great guy, it’s that Bush is starting to listen to a more realistic person rather than a crazy neocon, and that finally we are getting serious about getting out of Iraq.

C Co... aka I Smell Propaganda | 11/24/2006, 12:25 pm EST

9/29/06

“… Henry Kissinger, the architect of America’s last failed war, the one in Vietnam…”

-RS

11/20/06
“.. .Henry Kissinger, Nixonian policy maker who negotiated an end to Vietnam…”

-RS

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Difference, yes? The first article was used to slam Bush for recieving advice from Kissenger. The 2nd was to slam Bush using Kissenger’s quote as a crediable source. Kissenger wasn’t the architect of the Vietnam War (that was the Johnson administration), he was the one who helped get American troops out, along with a variety of other sucessful foriegn policy moves. Yet RS claims both things as a way to push an agenda. And slinging more mud is not going to change that fact, Jed.

C Co... aka I Smell Propaganda | 11/26/2006, 9:26 pm EST

JackD

I haven’t meant to and I apologize if I have.

BUT ISN’T THE ISSUE MORE IMPORTANT THAN PERSONAL BULLSHIT? I try to make points and you guys respond with personal insults. Jesus Fucking Christ, look what I have to say as points and respond to those, not me as a person. Is that so unreasonable?

mr. know it all | 5/28/2007, 8:40 pm EST

Bush was never really looking for victory in Iraq,a foothold maybe, but Iraq itself is not the prize.Bush wants to be close to Iran if they make a move to control the Central Asian petroleum reserves.Kazakhstan,Uzbek istan ,Turkmenmenistan,Tajikistan Kyrgyzstan,and Afghanistan all sit on top of oil.The old Soviet Union went broke and cut these former satelites loose.whoever gets the “Stans ” in their sphere of influence will be the beneficiaries of the oil.Of course Bush can’t say the USA is trading blood for oil , so we got the revolving stories of weapons of mass destruction ,toppling the despot,and or democratic nation building. IT IS ABOUT OIL! just not the oil you were suspicious about

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