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Greening the October Surprise?

9/19/06, 11:31 am EST

The Independent is reporting that President Bush is preparing an about face on his position on global warming. As Ahnold has shown, confronting global warming now makes for good centrist politics. I won’t prejudge Bush’s proposal, but something tells me it falls well short of Al Gore’s carbon freeze policy.
(Incidentally, Gore’s habit of telling tall tales seems to be resurfacing. In a speech yesterday he said:

“For the last fourteen years. I have advocated the elimination of all payroll taxes — including those for social security and unemployment compensation — and the replacement of that revenue in the form of pollution taxes, principally on CO2.”

The last 14 years? Really!? Somehow I missed that in the 2000 presidential debates. Maybe the proposal was squirrelled away in Gore’s lockbox…)


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Jed Clampett | 9/19/2006, 12:37 pm EST

what you don’t remember he was saying in the debates that he would be the defender of the environment. once elected he dropped out of Kyoto, removed restrictions on coal burning power plants, and allowed corporate polluters to continue polluting unchecked.
now that the polls say the people are for protecting their environment and their kids health, he changes his tune, if not his actions. Then again, he doesn’t listen to polls, does he. Translation, he doesn’t listen to the people, only to what Karl says.

Ancon | 9/19/2006, 2:52 pm EST

So you don’t have any idea whether, or when, Al Gore advocated replacing payroll taxes with pollution taxes. It’s just that you haven’t heard of anything like that, so you’re assuming it’s a “tall tale”.

Bravo.

Laura | 9/19/2006, 2:54 pm EST

After all this time you still buy into the election 2000 GOP talking points of Gore supposedly being a serial exaggerator? You still don’t know that these quotes credited to Al Gore were made up or distorted?

C Co... aka I Smell Propaganda | 9/19/2006, 2:58 pm EST

That’s shit talk from Gore. If really felt this way, he would have said it during his election run in 2000. And for saying that he would have lost 10’s of millions of votes from the people who depend on social security and unemployment compensation. What a ridculous statement. There is no way to justify that or the fact he thinks that he held this stance for 14 years.

Capitalist Pig | 9/19/2006, 3:27 pm EST

Naturally the solution to global warming involves taxes. Does the left offer a solution to anything that does not involve taxes?

Jed Clampett | 9/19/2006, 11:39 pm EST

Hey, it’s just the only planet we can live on. who cares who dies as long as the executives in those oil companies can affor to buy oxygen and nitrogen for themselves.
Let’s see, in the last couple of hundred years the hairless apes have killed animals for sport, destroyed forests for paper and avoided replanting the seeds to replenish those forests, managed to polute the waters and decimate the fish populations, and in the last few decades turn the planets air conditioning system into extra water.
Yup, doing great folks, let’s keep on the way we are doing. As long as we can keep the rich getting richer, they’ll help us out, right? Since we pay for them to do their business (exploration) and allow them to forego paying royalties of course they’ll respond in kind.
Oh that’s right, God is gonna let us into heaven because we done so well taking care of his other creations.

paul | 9/20/2006, 1:29 am EST

I don’t see a link to the speech, and as usual you make no effort to see if the comment might actually be true if it’s in the proper context.

And BTW, Capitalist Pig, does the right offer a solution for anything that doesn’t involve blowing shit up? I look forward to the Global War On Warming.

Idiots…

Capitalist Pig | 9/20/2006, 9:01 pm EST

paul – The right offers solutions that work and produce results, like the strong economy we currently have in this country. As for blowing shit up, defending the country is a constitutional responsibility of the federal goverment, fighting a heatwave is not.

Jack D | 9/20/2006, 9:29 pm EST

What solutions? Even better, WHAT results? Oh, you mean the results that the rest of the civilized world hates America, because of our greedy, tyranical policies. Stay the course to spread democracy is NOT a solution!!
George defended the country when we went into Afghan. Iraq is just a “collateral war” for 16 different reasons, but, no good ones (reasons).
As for the economy, I don’t know numbers, but the economy here in Michigan SUCKS! The big 3 are laying off blue and white collar by the thousands every month. Not to mention the downstream lay-offs from their suppliers all over the country.

Jack D | 9/20/2006, 9:31 pm EST

Addition:
Economies are always strong during a war. That’s why you medieval minded neo-cons like war.

TinFoilHat | 9/30/2006, 4:45 pm EST

“The right offers solutions that work and produce results, like the strong economy”

Yeah, while they spend like crazy racking up multiple trillions in debt. The economy was stronger under Clinton and he eliminated the deficit. Don’t even bother saying “congress did it” (Pat conservative response). ALL republicans voted against Clinton’s deficit reduction legislation. They said that it would never work. hmmm… so who was it you said wanted BIG GOVERNMENT?

harry potter | 10/13/2006, 10:36 pm EST

I got the virtual suprise of my life, I am fair game, have been for many years now, when I was out driving my Golden Eagle logoed car in the Adelaide hills and noticed a road sign, reading something like Gore. I noticed it because some young members of an organisation who wear a hair style as part of their uniform were driving by. I’d seen them before too at Coles supermarket. I for some reason believed they were “those guys who did that **** when Jolly and Dempsey” moved in next door. Outside the church, in London and here it was PIlgrim church. Anyway I must go now.
Al Gore. Global warming is a reality. Not a “cold war” any more.

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