man, you are a bigger moron than i imagined if you think it’s actually jab writing that… then again, you are so gullible, it’s not surprising.

capitalist pig you are getting on my nerves……..shut up or i will turn you into bacon

anybody who names themselves jed clampett is a moron………you sir should be lit on fire

actually ignore all the comments posted by david because its not really him.

well im god……..and david did write that……william holt is an alias

ignore the alias “god” thats willams boyfriend. Actually ignore all of them.

Will and his boyfriend Nick are posting all of these under different names.

David please die……i am sick of you……you waste of air………ahhh!!

i hate jesus

nobody likes me….i go to school everyday and noone ever pays attention to me or talks to me… whats the use of even being alive ne longer

Mr. Alias,

Go play at “My Space” for a while. That seems to be where your sense of humor is anyway. Let the grown ups play here.

OK, back on track here. Lieberman wonders what it could hurt.

Well, with all those extra troops around, and deployed predominantly in the Baghdad area, sounds to me like the status of our logistical supply train(reaching from the Persian Gulf to the interior of the country) won’t be reinforced or beefed up, yet it will suddenly have a greater strain put upon it. Those fuel/food/medicine/ammo&ordnan ce convoys will be more badly needed than ever, and just as stretched-out and vulnerable as ever, it sounds like.

The surge is risky enough. But if we subsequently attack Iran, those Revolutionary Guards are going to swarm across that border and make a beeline for those supply lines.

A week or two without fuel and ordnance may make all the difference between viability and perishing for American troops. The enemy might just be able to pull that off.

hallzee you are a tight ass……..you lesbo

Does it bother anybody else that the only people advocating for this “surge” are politicians? Nobody else wants it — not the Pentagon, not the commanders on the ground in Iraq, not the American people, and certainly not the Iraqis themselves. Hell, the military is stretched way too thin as it is.

Something else has to be going on here. Somebody has ulterior motives. Any theories?

As long as those 20,000 Americans kill some Arabs it will be worth it, right Sen. Lieberman?

C U,

Just a guess, but do these “Surge” discussions have anything to do with political positioning for 2008? You asked for a theory.

I don’t blame Democrats for being upset. They voted this new congress in on a promise of a “New Direction” in Iraq, but they were never told what that direction was going to be. Sounds like more of the same to me. At least with the Republicans, though you we may not agree, you knew that you were going to get more of the same in Iraq.
But what do the Democrats care? They got what they wanted. Now they won’t take a hard stance on Iraq or immigration until after the 2008 elections. But they have a handle on that minimum wage issue.

More American troops coming home in body bags is indeed a worse outcome than a sharpened political debate at home, but it’s hardly the worst possible outcome. Provoking a more intense civil conflict that kills substantially more Iraqis than are currently dying, that causes wider regional conflict, etc. would be an even worse outcome. Even if you only judge matters in terms of American lives, that outcome is likely to cost more than just the lives of soldiers lost in Baghdad, just as our post-9/11 adventures have cost more American lives than 9/11 itself.

I hope the Democratic voters of Conneticut are proud of themselves. The Republicans were smart enough to realize who their candidate was, but the same isn’t true of Democrats.

The thing nobody asks these people is: if it ‘works’, what then? Will we have succeded in our objectives so we can go home? Are these 20,000 troops being sent in there so we can go–or so we can stay?

We can’t bring the troops home yet because of the military/industrial presence in Iraq and their goals, which all have to do with oil and money, much of the money being conscripted illegally or without audits. What might be more interesting is just where this money is really going. But, the administration feels they have to protect these firms and their money, at the expense of American soldier’s lives.

Yeah I was pretty appalled when I heard that Lieberman said at least give us a chance to try Bush’s plan. So I wrote him and reminded him that his friend John McCain has an 18 year old son who recently joined the Marines. If the surge means that Jimmy McCain was going to have to die would it be worth it to follow Bush’s plan? Because that is really what it comes down to. Every day we remain another parents child dies. When you know it is going to be your son Mr. McCain/Mr. Lieberman is it still worth it? I know what my answer would be but then I am only a mother.

Hey… My kids are not gona be sent to Iraq, so what’s the worse that could happen with this surge?

Maybe alot of troops are gona come home in body bags, but at least it wont be anyone related to me. Ought to at least let us try it.

Wha-do-ya-say?

America

Voodoo Chile at 5:22:
Don’t blame Connecticut Democrats–they voted for Lamont 65-33 over Lieberman. It’s the Republicans and Independents who reelected Lieberman. With his percentages among Republicans and Independents, Lieberman needed only 21% of Democrats to win.

not going to bother reading how the comments section has to devolve to the name-calling above, just wanted to point out: nice post, but remember that “doubling down” is what you do in a favorable position; what bush will propose doing is more akin to double or nothing.

Jed Clampett | 1/8/2007, 1:31 pm EST

man, you are a bigger moron than i imagined if you think it’s actually jab writing that… then again, you are so gullible, it’s not surprising.
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You are a bigger moron than I thought if you think I posted that comment.

drop dead pig

Jack D | 1/8/2007, 1:54 pm EST

Mr. Alias,

Go play at “My Space” for a while. That seems to be where your sense of humor is anyway. Let the grown ups play here.

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Completely agree. And stop being an asshole and blaming the “regulars” Jed. You are a moron if you really think that Pig is too pussy to stand up to you.

By the way, Lieberman’s quote is taken tremendously out of context. You’ll jump on anything Tim.

They want the troops there so they are staged to attack Iran. Plain and simple.

what the fuck are you talking about you stupid lard ass?

Definitely some pretty good stuff said on here. I don’t even like to involve myself in these Iraq discussions, it just makes me mad; however, it seems obvious to me that, like Toby pointed out, we’re just getting poised to attack Iran. C U wanted theories but we don’t need conjecture: we have Halliburton, there’s no more obvious motive than Cheney’s. Cheney jerks off Bush, says God wants blood, then bam: we have endless Middle Eastern warfare. Cheney’s making money and Bush is/has one-upped the father he still doesn’t deserve and hasn’t lived up to.

What’s your strategy for victory, Dickinson? You criticize but offer nothing. You’re a total imbecile. Armchair generals belong at Rolling Stone and not at 1600 Pennsylvania NW, thank God.

I agree that Bush is just positioning for an Iran strike.

I would not agree that “armchair” generals are only at Rolling Stone. I think there’s one in the Oval Office, too. He’s about as savvy as the one who ended his days in a bunker in Berlin.

the one in berlin would at least listen to his professionals. but they are cut from the same cloth as they say. Their source is the same.

Joseph | 1/10/2007, 10:47 pm EST

What’s your strategy for victory, Dickinson? You criticize but offer nothing. You’re a total imbecile. Armchair generals belong at Rolling Stone and not at 1600 Pennsylvania NW, thank God.

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Yes. Saying something sucks, but having no idea how to better the situtation shows no form of intelligence whatsoever. Hear that, you rhetoric spewing “warriors”?

What is it that you are spewing C Co?…..recycled jiz?

He’s projecting, you know, when you accuse others of your own shortcomings in order to make it seem ok that your are doing it as well. Sort of like when a girlfriend acuses you of cheating and you aren’t, chances are, she’s the one doing the cheating.

“Saying something sucks, but having no idea how to better the situtation shows no form of intelligence whatsoever”

Hows this: PARTITION IRAQ NOW.

that’s a good idea, but it has to be the iraqis that decide that or it will be seen as merely more colonialism on part of a western power.
In the long run, that is exactly what is going to happen, the question is, will it be called iran-turk-soudi or syria-iran-soudi.
Boy, it sure seems 8 years of this kind of foreign policy is making us alot of friends around the world. Have you noticed how our policies are changing the face of the countries south of the border?

Works for me. But, I’m sure someone will have some “well informed” views about why that is a bad idea.

I wasn’t talking to you, Word. I know you’ve been saying that all along. I’ve agreed with you on that all along as well. This goes beyond Iraq and beyond Democrats and Republicans. Both sides just fight with each other instead of having any real plan to combat problems. Is it more important to be right on Monday morning or come up with the game winning play on Sunday afternoon? If you catch my drift, that’s really what I meant.

>Joseph | 1/10/2007, 10:47 pm EST

>What’s your strategy for victory, >Dickinson? You criticize but offer >nothing. You’re a total imbecile.

Critics of the war aren’t coming up with a “strategy for victory” because 1: they realize there is no such thing as victory, only prolonged occupation, 2: Bush hasn’t come up with a strategy for victory or otherwise, just pipe dreams and faith on how to get there and 3: it’s the job of the Commander in Chief to come up with the strategies and if he can’t we need to throw his ass out and get someone in who can. Failure isn’t a strategy, it’s a reality.

joe liebermans cowment shows whats wrong with the pro war loby they think the soldiers are a comodity and do not value their lives.

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