I’m sick of all these poorly thought out studies that continually contradict themselves.

Look…

Small amounts of alcohol daily = Good (dialates capillaries, increases blood flow, ect.)

Having four Buds or getting drunk, cheating on your girlfriend, getting in a car accident, going to jail, adding 15 shots of Jack with those beers and dying from alcohol poisoning, beating up on your wife, abandoning your kids = Not Good

Not saying that all those things can happen, but one leads to another when you have the attitude that consuming large amounts of alcohol is good for you.

If you want to get buzzed, fine. But don’t lie to yourself by saying that it’s really good for you.

just like no one said you should go out and get wasted daily, beat on your wife, drive intoxicated. No one said those four drinks should be imbibed at the same time. the key is moderation. did you bother to read the report or simply inferred your assumption? It never mentioned 15 shots of Jack or boilermakers. Chances are, they only studied wine. Getting drunk negates any benefits the drinking might have. Just like exagerating a point makes everyone ignore any portion of sanity your argument might have. And if you get that out of control on one or two glasses of wine with your meal, then youre a lightweight that shouldn’t be drinking at all.

I prefer Stag. Life-long metropolites will not be familiar with the brand, but it’s a dry beer, that is, little or no sugar. Diet beer; sadly, it’s probably healthier to drink in moderation than diet soda.

Here here Jab. agreed! I guess the key is moderation and doing good and enjoying life without harming others. And, if you aspire to better living, helping others and so helping yourself.

Great — but I’ve already had four drinks this morning. If I drink 8 by the end of the day, will I be twice as healthy?

WARNING:
Alcohol is not for everyone. People should not consume Alcohol if they suffer from Liver or Kidney Failure, High Blood Pressure or Depression. Do not drink Alcohol if you are currently entered, or plan to enter an AA 12 step program.
In most cases, Side Effects were generally mild. Alcohol can cause Vomiting on yourself, Self Defication, Temporary Loss of Self Control, Sex with Ugly People and Karaoke. In few cases, Side Effects were Felony Assault, Adultery, Loss of Employment, Bankruptsy and Homelessness.
If these severe side effects occur, stop using Alcohol and contact your Doctor, Priest, and Attorney Immediately.

Warning!! stupid people should not drink alcohol to excess. It exaserbates your basic personality.
Warning!! Drinking alcohol to excess makes you stupid.

Hallzee, maybe the problem with you right-wing guys is that you can’t hold your liquor. I get drunk several times a week; none of that crap has ever happened to me. I have a career, a girlfriend, a car, an apartment — all that stuff. I’m a normal, healthy young man who loves booze. Sue me.

Yeah, Jed’s right there. It’s sociological fact that the upper class drinks more than the lower class and many are “self made” individuals. Alcohol just makes bad people worse, and worse people criminals. Don’t tell me the guy who gets drunk and slaps his wife around doesn’t want to do it when he’s sober, or I’ll call you a liar. He just happens to be a ball-less prick who can’t throw down sober, though I wouldn’t call wife beating “throwing down”.

Amen, Jab. I’m sick and tired of people using liquor as an excuse for their own perversions. I’m thinking now of people like Mel Gibson and Mark Foley. Of all the times I’ve ever gotten shitfaced, I can honestly say I’ve never experienced the impulse to go on an anti-semitic rant or send “naughty e-mails” to teenage boys. If booze could do that to someone, no one would drink it except perverts.

Yeah, I had to stop and think of every time I’ve nearly made it with a woman larger than me, but every time, good judgment shows through. Perhaps the only reason I ever entertained doing such a thing is rooted in my inherent kindness, which I rarely embrace sober: I want to make the large girls feel good about themselves by chasing them when I’m drunk and horny. Moral of that story: screw sober; you’ll never wake up sorry! Maybe alone, but never sorry.

Thus, Mel Gibson meant what he said, I just want to know how he spotted the cop. Does he have Jew-dar? That was talent—man knows his Jews.

Fat people make me sick.

That’s funny.

I don’t really think Mel is an antisemite. He was just focusing on what would affect the cop the most. Being drunk, he went off the handle.

I’ve often wondered how alcohol, with all the violence that is connected to it, the motor vehicle accidents, the loss of inhibitions, the unwanted pregnancies and all the other negative behavior associated with it is legal, yet a plant whose worse effect is to make you lazy and forgetful is so reviled that it is classed with heroin and cocaine?

Jed, you took the words right out of my mouth. I say we legalize it and tax the shit out of it. But that’s another discussion for another thread.

You’re making me go into a Libertarian orgasm, messier than a right or left wing orgasm. I don’t even smoke the shit, but can’t understand people’s stigma. I won’t go into a liberating diatribe, no one deserves that.

That’s interesting what you said about Mel just getting at the cop, Jed. Such hadn’t occurred to me. Though, one hole, how did he spot the cop? That’s some of that Gibson, the-holocaust-never-transpired teaching from his notedly antisemitic father.

CU,
Fortunately none of those things happened to me either. Well maybe the Karaoke. And the Vomiting.

I figured since they said Alcohol was now good for you that they would come out with your typical “New Drug” TV ad. It was a joke.

Your safe. I have no need to sue you. I plan to “safely” drink through the Holidays. How else do you deal with The Relatives that are scheduled to come to my house this year.

Hallzee, we may have found the one and only thing you and I will ever agree on: relatives are more tolerable when you’re drunk. So are right-wingers for that matter.

In that spirit, let us all get drunk this holiday season and pretend we like each other. Merry Christmas!

I concur… a crown and coke to all.

it’s not the alcohol that causes it. don’t blame it on an inanimate, unfeeling object. That is the main problem of how alcohol is treated and the reason politicians use the excuse so much. ‘I acted immoraly because of alcohol, please forgive me!!’ and the population says… ‘oh, yea, that’s happened to us to, your forgiven for your weak constitution, go ahead and manage our money for us’. Alcohol is a disinhibitor. so that the underlying nature of the person comes out and is magnified for all to see.

“That is the main problem of how alcohol is treated…”

Exactly. So go ahead and use it responsibly all you want. Just don’t think that it’s actually great for you in large quanities and the lesson is “booze it up America” (Tim).

jab, you are a huge alcoholic….you sick ass……i hope you die on the streets

jab i am sick of you please die

Haha… geez guys, ease up a little.

nice guys

A reminder:

Remember what Mark Twain said:

“First get your facts straight, then you can distort them as you like.”
First of all, you’re facts ain’t straight!
Correct them first, then distort them!

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I don’t really agree with, “okay drink it up America.” Back in grade school (k-6), wasnt it the drug officers and nurses that came to each classroom and said, “stay away from drugs…you’ll die!” Yeah well, why the heck is it okay to drink alcohol. What if people read the okay sign to do so and drink heavily and get drunk evryday…think about that!!!!

I smoke 2 joints in the morning, I smoke 2 joints at night!

since when is four drinks a lot for my german irish stomach. Hangovers start a ten drinks.

The great thing about being a drunk is that my day gets consistently better as it goes along. Ernest Hemmingway

I like drinking too!

Happy Oktoberfest!