Taxes and a weak foriegn policy. Yeah! Let’s do it!

……half a decade of economic stagnation,……

Still relying on the Clinton method I see, tell a lie enough times and people will think it is the truth.

Same old Republican rhetoric from you two, huh?
As if our foreign (that’s how it’s spelled, BTW) policy is strong now, C Co. And if you ask the working class population, Capitalist Pig, they would say the economy has sucked for the past 5 years or so. Though corporate is doing fine. As far as telling a lie enough times, does the acronym WMD mean anything to you?

Cap,
No, sorry. That’s the ROVE method.

in a word…chaos. no…lets try ego. naw…like a three legged hog in a whore house. there, the latter, that’s it, yes?

…and the collorary, “always accuse your enemies of what you yourself are doing”.

Anyway, Drew, the Democrats won’t be *able* to get away with the kinds of “empowerment” partisanship that you refer to that have been the hallmark of this Republican congress. It doesn’t matter whether the Democrats are “better” than the Republicans about abuses of power; the Democrats simply won’t be in a position to abuse power in this fashion, whether or not they want to.

The reason why the Republican mechanisms of single-party control work is because the Republican party of the last five or six years has been unified to an almost unheard of degree. Yes, a good bit of it is that the Republican majority has rewritten the rules of Congress, but they were only able to do that because there was no downside to doing so: With the amount of vote and message discipline the congressional Republicans have shown, so much as acknowledging the Democrats as even being members of congress has been simply unnecessary.

But the Democrats are not unified or disciplined. It’s looking increasingly likely that this election will leave the Democrats with a congressional majority, but just because they have a congressional majority doesn’t mean that they’ll be able to get the entire majority to vote the same way. Take a look at how many Democrats have voted for the Republican agenda lately, or the way that the house Democratic leadership is split across entirely different factions of the party. This is not a party that will be able to agree with itself deeply enough to engineer partisan shutout; how can they dominate the Republicans if they don’t even dominate themselves?

Because of the splits in their party, the Democrats will HAVE to reach across the aisle, if they want to get anything at all done. It’s more likely the Democratic party leadership will be able to cooperate with Republican moderates than they will with the outliers in their own party.

And reaching across the aisle will probably be possible, since it’s starting to look like if the Republicans can’t salvage this election, then suddenly they’re going to be just as disunified as the Democrats have been– the scandals of the last month are turning the fissures in the Republican party into full-blown splits…

oh wow, ancon,
really? kinda grovy…like lilith fair…or even woodstock, yes? well watch out for the brown acid, boyo!!

and speaking of acid…welcome back taibbi…lol!!!

John Hall – I talk to the working class everyday, and they would say the economy is doing fine. They judge the economy by thier wallet, not by liberal propoganda.

I think that the American people have always realized that they had to change major parties in the house once the ruling party got too corrupt. Of course it took the Democrats like 50 years to get that corrupt. It only took the Republicans 6. I can’t (as much as I’d like to) state that the Democrats are less susceptible to corruption. I think Washington culture is just more corrosive as time goes on. The Dems will be better for a term or two though. Ultimately if we want to fix this we will need to take corporate money out of the mix. I know y’all don’t like hearing that, but there is NO OTHER SOLUTION.

Cap,
Don’t look now, but it would seem that 70% of the working class would disagree with your assessment.

oh yea, kartman (pig for those of you that don’t know his new moniker) talks to the working class on a regular basis…

‘hey, manuel, did you clean that toilet yet?’

‘ricky, are you gonna pick up some more of those day workers? I got two yesterday and stiffed them half their pay’

‘you immigrants are so stupid, it’s your own fault you didn’t get an education, you’d have realized i’m a crook’

Ancon,
“No down side to the re-written rules of Congress.” Are you fucking kidding me? That’s like if the MLB would re-write the rules so the Yankees would win the World Series every year. Yea, that’s perfectly fine.

Tax cuts for the wealthy, wars in triple-threat, no diplomacy, no intelligence, natural disasters without adequate help, no adequate healthcare, pensions, retirements for the working class and, few pay increases…

Add our loss of credibility as a Nation that Protects and Defends but is on the Attack(No matter how innocent the victim/country may be)…

And more of Hastart’s big fat ass…

i think a question to ask is what if the democrats dont win? after all, the 2004 election seemed assured (well according to some it was stolen, namely rfk jr.).

and as much as people like to rag on c co, rangel himself has said that he is going to repeal the tax cuts, and presumably, raise taxes

and for the record, the economy is doing fine, despite reports to the contrary. unemployment is hovering at near five percent(lower than it was 10 years ago, or any time for that matter), as any economist will tell you, or at least the ones i know, is very good, comparatively speaking with other industrialized nations. you’re never totally going to eradicate unemployment, so you assume that about four to five percent is always going to be a given. and the dow is close to a near record high, at just under 12,000. so it seems that the economy is doing fine

while this is all very interesting, lets talk about something that actually meaningful….the new Guns N Roses album “Chinese Democracy” is set to hit stores before the end of the year. You can visit gunsnroses.com for all the latest news, performances, and all of your ticket purchasing needs

an interesting thing about unemployment figures. they only count those people actively looking for jobs. Those who have given up looking or can’t work are not counted. nor is there any measure of people who are underemployed. for example, a social worker employed as a convenience store cashier or economist working as a wendy’s manager. I wonder why they don’t do accurate reporting.

Squatch,
The problem is not unemployment, it’s UNDER-employment. Salary levels have been stagnant for six years. The last time the minimum wage was raised was 10 years ago. In 1967 the minimum wage was 86% of poverty level, it is now 64%. People are working harder for less money. Company’s are steadily cutting back on benefits leaving more health-care paid out of pocket than ever before. The cost of living continues to increase, but middle class salaries are stagnant if no actually decreasing. The official poverty rate has increased steadily by about .35% EVERY YEAR (that’s about 1.3 million people) since Bush has been in office. 20% of our children are impoverished (the highest level in the industrialized world). I know this is difficult for you to grasp wearing your rose colored glasses, but the trend is quite clear. Economists in the WSJ are always saying “why can’t they see how great we’re doing”. Well we (the collective) may be doing great, but we (the working people) are not. The rich are making record profits off the very sweat of the middle and lower classes. You only have to look in the right place to see the truth.

Gigity-gigity-goo.

All of you throw poo.

Hilary, you can’t win unless Taibbi sticks it in your koo.

TinFoilHat, stain on you. Are there chips in your neck?

PS: Taibbi, you and Jan are crazy if you think I’m gonna buy your rag to see your cover story after this ‘Low Post’ crap fest.

Find someone more credible than “a number of people I talked to in Congress” and “a lot of staffers I spoke to” and “a Democratic staffer on the Transportation and Infrastructure committee”.

Journalism means sticking your neck out. Not handing crack out.

Jesus, at least you coulda slurred them as ‘paedophiles’ with only three weeks to the election. Clowns.

BTW, if you live in Boston and you’re asleep right now,

BOO!!!

I’m Bechtel and I want to flatten your babies.

All right, stop stealing my online name you clowns.

What, are midterms at that clown Wheaton College boring you? Desperate for appointment to Baghdad?

Tough luck, Jethro, you make no sense and you lay with the unclean. Adios

fortunately or unfortunately, none of the stuff in that first paragraph will matter because people are starting to realize that besides the war, the Democrats have said nothing except Bush is doing it wrong. I have yet to hear one dem say what their policy would be or what they would do differently, just that they would do it differently.

Jed Clampett – The working class people I talk to are highly skilled workers (machinist, toolmakers, welders) we don’t employee illegal immigrants. But idiotic statements from you are nothing new.

TinFoilHat –
“Salary levels have been stagnant for six years. The last time the minimum wage was raised was 10 years ago. In 1967 the minimum wage was 86% of poverty level, it is now 64%”

Unfortunately once again the facts don’t support your statements. Wages have increased 4.1% this year, after tax income has risen 15% since 2001, and unemployemnt is at 4.7%. Of course you will not accept these facts because they do not say what you want them to say. As for minimum wage, how hard is it for the left to understand the concept of entry level employment? Most people do stay at minimum wage more than 18 months. And no one is going to pay you $10/hr to do a $6/hr job, they will just refuse to hire you.

Most people do stay at minimum wage more than 18 months.

That should be do not stay at min. wage more than 18 months.

Cap,
You could be right. I couldn’t find 2006 data (where did you get yours?). However the fact remains that millions cross the proverty line each year that Bush is in office. There is no longer a safety net. Whether or not this is the fault of irresponsible parents, it is children who suffer, and the meager wage hike you site does not keep up with either inflation or other increases in the cost of living.

TinFoilHat – The numbers are not hard to find. Try the dept. of labor statistics. As for the meager wage increases not keeping up with inflation, well they are better than the numbers during Clinton’s presidency, so I don’t think you really want to use that argument. And you might try explaining something to your buddy Jed. I likes to discount the unemployment figures because they don’t count the underemployed, etc. Well the fact is the statistical methods used are the same that have been used for many decades, so the numbers are legitimate in making comparisons across the years. There is a reason why the democrats running for office are not using the economy, they know it is a positive for Bush. If it were so bad don’t you think they would be running on it?

Cap,
One more thing. Average income is not a good measure. Of course the rich get richer under Bush. If Bill Gates walks into a bar filled with construction workers, the average patron income goes up to several million dollars, but that doesn’t help the construction workers, does it?

Good stuff Dennis!

DirtyDennis – That is the best source you can come up with? A source that says we need to raise the minimum wage, and have more unions? Of course they are going to skew things to make the economy look bad, a good economy totally destroys thier arguments. So let’s see your numbers from anohter point of view.

“Despite these facts, some claim that middle-class Americans are falling behind. They look at the data and see evidence that few Americans have benefited from the growing economy.[1] Only the wealthiest Americans have seen their lot improve in recent years, they argue, while middle- and low-income families’ finances have stagnated. This analysis is based on four specific claims:

The share of income earned by the wealthiest Americans has risen, and these are the only Amer­icans whose standards of living have improved;
Inflation-adjusted wages have not risen for most Americans;
Wages have not kept pace with rising produc­tivity; and
Wages and salaries, as a share of the economy, have fallen in recent years, while corporate profits have risen.
To these critics, America has all but returned to a new era of corporate Robber Barons, with entrenched inequality and opportunity only for a fortunate few.

The only problem with this seemingly compelling argument is that it is not true. The critics’ statistics, while usually accurate, are also incomplete and out of context, and so give a misleading impression of the state of the economy. A comprehensive look at the data reveals that most Americans have shared in the United States’ rising prosperity and that America remains the land of opportunity.”

I have been down the road of life expectancy, and I have no desire to dig out the stats again, the fact is Europe with it’s great socialized health care outlives us by about 1 year, but are taxed enourmously to get that one year. Infant mortality rates in the U.S are higher and the main contribution factor is teenage pregnancy. Teens have more low birth weight babies, and this leads to higher infant mortality. And if I were a liberal I would stay away from that statistic since it is the left who are champions of the sexual revolution, and other policies that have helped to create the increase in teen pregnancy.

In the end the left’s arguments are always about socialized medicine and equal outcomes. The only thing gained from equal outcomes is mediocrity. I am not going to waste time going into the stupidity of trying to force equal outcomes, if you don’t understand it, I sure as hell can’t convince you. Maybe try reading “Atlas Shrugged” and you might get it, but probally not.

good point cp

a democratically controlled congress, if it happens, could actually be a turnaround for republicans, espescially if rangel’s plan for higher taxes goes through. and i’d be wary about voting for a party who has only offered opposition to the party in power without really telling the people a plan of their own. What do the democrats stand for? its dangerous to vote for something/someone simply because they are against bush, because you are voting against bush, not for what a candidate stands for. my point is think before you vote, i suppose

you could say to people is if you want san francisco values, vote democrat (to be fair though, corruption exists in both parties, and truth be told, i really dont like either party, so i dont know if i’ll vote republican either)

Let’s agree that numbers are exact. True. But what I have not seen or read on this site is that the human factor is random. You can apply all the numbers and statistical data that you want from either side, but the bottomline is that ‘W’ is trying to apply his own verision of ‘trickle down economics’ that didn’t work when Regan tried in the eighties.

Historidally, we have always faired better with a Democratic or true centerist President at the helm, and a conservative government. This is lost to us now and forever because we have allowed the judicial branch of government to step in where they should not and legislate from the bench rather than allowing our elected officials and popular thought dictate the masses.

The last 6 years of ‘hell’ have been brought about because we allowed the Supreme Court pick our president rather than allowing popular vote prevail when the electoral college failed us.

We can lament about the situation, but the facts are facts. Under our current administration and congress we have seen our leaders take the stance of ‘no accountability’ on just about every issue. This has the US on bad terms with everyone who we use to call friend.

On a brighter note, economies rise and fall, but an elected official is only around as along as their term(s) last and people keep voting.

Yes or No -
“You can apply all the numbers and statistical data that you want from either side, but the bottomline is that ‘W’ is trying to apply his own verision of ‘trickle down economics’ that didn’t work when Regan tried in the eighties.”

Actually the economy thrived under Reagan, the largest post-WWII economic expansion in U.S. history. Why do you think the man won re-election in a 48 state landslide?

You are right in the fact that we do better with a conservative goverment, or more to the point a goverment that stays out of the economy and people’s lives.

And just for the record Reagan never used the term “trickle down economics”, his opponents created that term. And one more point for the “tax the rich” crowd. JFK proposed cutting taxes to spur economic growth. So the idea is hardly a right wing idea to help the rich.

I don’t give a damn who wins what, as long as neither “side” (ironic statement, considering we should ALL be on the same side) is in complete control of this nation. That power configuration has worked so well the past 6 years.

Cap,
“Dennis while quoting figures for European countries”

um..no, they were US figures. Take another look.

“the best source you can come up with? A source that says we need to raise the minimum wage, and have more unions?”

The Economic Policy Institute is a nonprofit, nonpartisan think tank that seeks to broaden the public debate about strategies to achieve a prosperous and fair economy. Hmmm… sounds like they have an axe to grind to me.

And then you go forward to quote some mystery source that adds nothing of substance to the conversation other than waving it’s hand to dismiss one of the four charges (what are the other four?).

“In the end the left’s arguments are always about socialized medicine and equal outcomes.”

Straw man, Cap. I never argued that our healthcare system should be fully socialized, and I’ve NEVER argued for equal outcomes. At this point we can’t even provide a semblance of an equal playing field. You might take another look at the EPI (that pro-union source) and check their stats on upward mobility in this society. Your conservative sources probably don’t say ANYTHING about that.

Squatch,

“many people as you say tinfoilhat have stopped looking for jobs” That was Jed, not me.

Cap,
A few quotes on Reaganomics:

“Despite widespread claims that Reaganomics unleashed the great American economy, there is absolutely no evidence to support such views. The record shakes the very foundation of Reaganomics because it shows there was no promised increase in investment which “Supply Siders” claimed would foster economic growth. In fact, the economy was healthier by all these measures before the Reagan tax cutting, borrowing and spending policies than afterward.

No one can deny that Reagan’s policies failed to deliver on the promises of a balanced budget by 1984. They also failed just as dismally across the board. They failed to expand revenues in real terms. Adjusted for inflation, revenues remained below Carter-era levels until after a series of tax increases, and not until Reagan was almost out of office. As demonstrated by two-years of 9.5% unemployment, they failed to promote job creation. The annual job growth rate was lower during the Reagan years than any post W.W.II presidency before him, including Jimmy Carter’s, and significantly lower than during the Clinton years. Some apologists claim that these early figures were before Reagan’s program took effect, but that’s sophistry at best. The economy emerged from the Reagan recession, the worst since the Great Depression, only after Reagan signed legislation pulling the plug on the supply-side experiment.

Economists widely predicted all of these results even before the Congress passed Reagan’s policies. So how did the Reagan Administration win passage of these policies? Reagan overstated the economic problems we faced in 1980. Growth was weak, but positive. Unemployment was high, but coming down. Inflation, caused by oil shocks and other factors was high, but already falling. This in large part because of the artificially, historically high interest rates the Federal Reserve Board prescribed to squeeze inflation out of the economy.”

CU, sounds like an episode of Hannity and Combs.

Cap,
I’ve never been a ‘equal outcome’ guy. I’ve always been an ‘equal playing field guy’. I believe in Meritocracy. You seem to think we already have that and can maintain it with no effort whatsoever. This would be great if it were true, unfortunately it isn’t. Human nature itself stands in the way. Management will always seek to maximize profit and will always view the workforce as a factor in that equation. It is human nature when rich to want to stay rich and keep others out of the club. Also, somewhere along the way American business got the idea that continual growth and expansion is sustainable in the long run (obviously it isn’t). The merit = success construct is broken down in many places the most obvious of which is the difference in pay between the average worker and the CEO. You like to argue that the CEO of a company is 10,000 times more valuable than the average worker. I just don’t believe that. History is a class struggle, my friend. It will never end, it just takes different forms. The age of the ‘robber barons’ never really has ended. You don’t really need to look real hard to see it. Just follow the money.

“the largest post-WWII economic expansion in U.S. history”

You mean under CLINTON.

Ah, so you are saying “its impossible, get used to it”. This indeed is the difference between liberals and conservatives. We always look to make it better and history does indeed show many momentary victories. The reason Unions are weak today is because the press has lulled us into thinking they have outlived their usefulness. Nothing could be further from the truth, but how to convince the masses. The press, in my view, is also responsible for the poll you and C.Co have been siting. But fear not. Eventually the pendulum will swing the other way.

Today I Had An Epiphany

Forgive me for cramming that word in there. Just always wanted to use it but seldom get the chance. Hmmm.

If Pig can draw national conclusions based on questions he asks his locals, mostly his employees, I can take my own poll. So, today I did a poll of the residents (many) of my town. I decided to begin my poll around 10 a.m. in the uptown area and work my way downtown so I could catch the workplace folks taking their lunch break. That way I’d be able to poll the idlers, retirees, drifters, slackers, workers and liars. Hey, this poll taking stuff isn’t all that hard.

The first thing I can tell you is you don’t want to be making any ‘conclusions’ whist in the midst of polling. It’s hard, I can tell you, when everyone wants to tell you what they think is wrong. But if you pay too much attention to the answers you can lose your focus and forget your questions. I know I did. When I finally got home and tallied up the responses, I was astounded. Here they are:

When asked if they considered themselves conservative, liberal or moderate (I didn’t want to get too personal):

65% Liberal
13% Conservative
19% Moderate
3 % Don’t Know (This wasn’t a choice, but enough chose it I felt compelled to include it)

When asked to rate the president good, fair, bad:

73% Bad
19% Fair
5% Good
3% Don’t Know

When asked to rate the economy, good, fair, bad:

87% Bad
8% Fair
2% G ood
3% Don’t Know (Damn!! Same guys, over and over and over)

Wow, I thought, after looking at the results,

Oh, I forgot to mention, it was raining, so I went to Sweeney’s Bar & Grill to conduct my poll. Only cost me $157, not counting tips and loses at liars dice.

This poll taking stuff is easy. And I learn so much. Don’t think I can afford to do it too often however.

Dennis,
you KILL me! ROF

CP Just Lives to Project…

“Taxes and a weak foreign policy”

It sure as Hell beats “Foreign Policy” that is made up as you go-slap-dash and, destructive to everyone but the administration and, their cronies wallets…

Taxes to make sure the Wealthy get off the backs of the Middleclass working people and start paying their share.

Infra-Structure Collapse Is Not Fun Or Profitable but it is a Huge Side-Affect of Perpetual Tax Cuts..

Comprehend, Einstein?

DirtyDennis -
“If Pig can draw national conclusions based on questions he asks his locals, mostly his employees, I can take my own poll.”

First I did not base anything on a poll of “my workers”. I have no workers, I am simply thier supervisor, I work for the same people they do. Secondly I never equated it to a scientific poll. You might do well to actually talk to a few normal people that vote yourself, instead of spending all your time with your liberal friends. You could actually learn alot from people who actually earn a living.

TinFoilHat –

“The reason Unions are weak today is because the press has lulled us into thinking they have outlived their usefulness.”

So it is the press that is responsible. I sure thought it was all those workers who have voted down unions, such as the Saturn plant in Tenn. Damn that press. These people need these unions and are just to stupid to realize it, but thank god they have liberals like you to tell them what they need, and how bad off they are, you libs will save these stupid people from themselves.

Cap,
What makes you so fucking special? Not that you have ever actually said those words, but, it’s your attitude.
Now, if your thinking of asking me the same, my answer is this: I care about people, even the ones I don’t know or love, much more than my bank account. I own a small business and my employees make as much as I do. I don’t even make 40k per year, and NEVER have.

Jack D – Hello Jack. Glad to see you coming back around. Now as to what makes me so special, well we would be here all day if I go into that answer.

But apparently you are angry about my response on unions. I am glad you pay your employees so well. But that was your choice, not one forced upon you. So I could very well ask you the same question. What gives you the right to force a union upon employees that do not want one? If they voted it down, that might mean they think the union was not in their best interest. Do you know what is in their interest more than they do? What makes you think you have the right to force others to follow your example? What gives you, or anyone, the right to take what they have not earned to support causes that please you? So let’s not even get started, we have been down this road so many times before.

And Jack, about my attitude. My attitude comes from conviction. I believe what I say 100%. As for compensation, I do not have the final say in that matter, but my employer compensates it’s employees quite nicely without a union, including excellent benefits (health, dental, life, short & long term disability for a whopping $12.00/wk). They offer good money to attract talent. You want to help people, teach them a skill that is in demand, that helps alot more than a handout.

“If you work hard and believe in yourself anything is possible. The price of success is high but so are the rewards.” Paul Bryant.

Unions have been given the cold shoulder by many.

They keep the National Wage Up, fight to keep workers health care, benefits, pensions, retirements.

Sick of WalMarts that try and give us third-world wages and lack of benefits.

Disappointed that there is not more support for political candidates who do support unions-Angelides, being One.

Arnold wants to be Bush’s deadly duo and has attempted to kill all the unions(Just ask California teachers, firemen, police, nurses-they all work hard for their wages but Uncle Arnold and his “Favorite” Cousin-Bush want to suppress the unions so that low pay and benefits will be the routine-kind of the “Sweat Shop Mentality”…

Most businesses will reduce wages and benefits unless there are companies that have unions to keep the wages Up…

Companies do not want to treat their employees Great unless there are laws/examples/competition that do…

Word –
The liberal mindset. Ate up with jealousy and envy. Too bad you cannot see beyond it. Who is holding someone back from becoming the next great doctor or lawyer? The federal goverment gives loans and grants for college, since most lawyers and doctors are in private practice no one holds them back but themselves. And how can you say affirmative action helps level the playing field when it gives preference based solely on race? If anything affirmative action hurts the best and brightest. If you have the talent the jobs are there, you simply have to be willing to take the chance and persue it.

Word
“In the corporate world, of which I am a part, you get ahead by backstabbing and opportunism, not by honest hard work.”

————–

So tell me Word, how long have you been in the corporate world? What are twenty and pissed because you are not CEO? He is a fact from Forbes, the average CEO is 58 years old and has been with the same company for 23 years.

If you are still so dissatisfied, why not try the fastest way to climb the ladder – start your own business. It is easy to get to the top of the ladder if you own the ladder.

CP,
“The federal goverment gives loans and grants for college, since most lawyers and doctors are in private practice no one holds them back but themselves.”

What are you, a cheerleader for Federal Government subsidies? You are the worst kind of hypocrite Piggy: you use your own opponent’s successes as proofs against them. Saying shit like that is typical con manipulation of BIG government programs that work: too bad your side can’t come up with a better idea-no, last time I checked losing a war doesn’t qualify.

If you had your way you’d cut those programs, which is exactly what that shithole Bush is doing right now.

Let’s be real: you know exactly what you’re saying and exactly who you’re trying to manipulate, even if the knowledge was given to you by talk radio or Fox News.
There is NO excuse for placing the children of rich families above the children of poor ones when neither have had a chance to prove themselves; when that happens the people in charge need to be exterminated. Such is written in the constitution: When the government becomes tyrannical it is the duty of the people to overthrow it.

So piggy…up for a good roasting?

Word -
“Such is written in the constitution: When the government becomes tyrannical it is the duty of the people to overthrow it.”

There is no such statement in the Constitution, what you are referring to is the in the Declaration of Independence.

“Let’s be real: you know exactly what you’re saying and exactly who you’re trying to manipulate, even if the knowledge was given to you by talk radio or Fox News.”

My knowledge comes from a high quality education, and from being well read. An education that was obtained while working 40 hours a week and attending school full time, since my parents could not afford to pay for my education. Unlike you, I do not accept defeat and whine that the deck is stacked against me, I find a way to make things happen, a positive attitude yields positive results. And just for the record I recieved no grants for my college. I did take out student loans, which I am paying back with interest.

“So piggy…up for a good roasting?”

So are you man enough to try roasting me? Let me remind you I am a conservative, and a southerner, we believe in the right to keep and bear arms, unlike you lefties. And I promise you I do keep and bear arms at all times. So as we say around here, If you feel froggy…leap.

CP, H, C Co-

Tax cuts Up -Tuitions Up
Tax Cuts Up-Grants and Scholarships Down
Tax Cuts Up-Health care, hospitals, public schools, education, job market, military equipment, military benefits, Down!
Bush-Foreign Policy is non-existant, America’s Credibility Down, America’s Infra-Structure-Down.

But, on the light side, Under Bush Crime and Corruption are WAY UP…

What a Regime!

Pig,

The invitation is in the mail.

Pig,

There you go again, putting words into people’s mouths and once more it’s necessary for me to educate you. It’s a thankless job, but someone has to do it.

I said ‘our house,’ NOT ‘my house.’ ‘Our’ is a plural possessive pronoun, it means belonging to more than one. ‘My’ is a singular possessive, meaning belonging to one.

To explain, this is a liberal website, I am a liberal, ergo I belong here. If the good folks who maintain this website believe I am in error, I await their judgment, not yours. They DO want you to visit and say stupid things because volume of posts is indicative of viewers and the bean counters upstairs want to know if people are actually viewing.

Hey, Piggly, Wiggly-Perpetual tax cuts affect student grants, loans, scholarships and, tuitions.

Whatever land of Delusion, you live in, you are trying to make a case for an economy that is living on borrowed time…

Porker, go to the back of the room!

The Republicans want the middleclass to become the poor.

Like in other third-world countries, it is so much more simple to keep ‘em poor, powerless and, uneducated and, politically unaware(You’d fit right in)…

Careful, or your own Party will serve you up for Sunday Brunch!

Do Swine eat their own?

Perpetual Tax Cuts and No Infra-Structure-Disaster. ..

The King of Lies, Mr. Bush/Rove/Cheney -the Three-headed Serpent!

I drink my Courvoisier from a styrofoam cup with “World’s Greatest Mom” scrawled on it in yellow magic marker.

hydrocodone .