In the July 13-27, 2006 issue of ROLLING STONE, Will Dana talks with Al Gore about Bush, big oil and what’s next. Take a look at the story, see images of planetwide damage caused by global warming and share your thoughts below.
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Caymus | 6/28/2006, 11:40 am EST
Al Gore’s a publicity hound and a sore loser. This is his revenge, nothing more. Such a pathetic, hollow man.
Tim | 6/28/2006, 12:12 pm EST
Bush did win the election in 2000. Let’s be clear. Please change this error on the initial page. This is not a matter of opinion.
Longbow | 6/28/2006, 12:21 pm EST
Your sub-headline has a spelling error, it says “looser” but there should only be one “o”.
Algore purposely twists facts, and flat-out lies in his presentation of “global warming”. Earth’s climate has always been changing, and it has been much warmer and much colder than it is today, all without any contributions whatsoever by mankind or flatulent cows. In fact most of the hot air comes from just two sources: Congress and socialist envirowhackos.
Jim | 6/28/2006, 12:26 pm EST
I for one am tired of being gored to death.
mor10 | 6/28/2006, 12:40 pm EST
I find it interesting that every person on the planet understands the threat of Global Warming except the Americans. I constantly hear claims from Americans that global warming is a liberal or socialist conspiracy etc etc. Problem is that ALL the scientific evidence says it’s real. The only people who say it’s not real are people who stand to lose substantial profits if something is done to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
Just listen to George W. Bush: “I did not accept the Kyoto agreement because it is a crappy deal for the US. It will ruin our economy.”
But this is not an economic issue (or at least it shouldn’t be). Prioritizing short-term economic gain through the sale of fossil fules instead of the future of the planet is both ignorant and arrogant.
Just think about this for one seccond: How do “socialist envirowhackos” profit from the threat of Global Warming and how do oil and coal companies and their friends profit from claiming there is no such thing.
the answer is simple. and disturbing
Jada | 6/28/2006, 12:41 pm EST
Al Gore is trying to enlighten and save people who seem to prefer to follow the lemmings over the edge of the cliff. For heaven’s sake – no for Earth’s sake – and for all of our sakes – do your own research if you do not want to believe Al Gore. This issue of global warming is so much bigger than who will be or should be President, or which party is best. This issue is bi-partisan. I am not an envirowhacko, I am a mother of three who would like the planet to be around for them as well as for all future generations.
As for Gore himself, if you don’t like him – fine – pay attention to the message, rather than the messenger.
Scientists agree. This is a serious issue, that we can no longer ignore.
Longbow | 6/28/2006, 1:00 pm EST
I realize there is no use trying to convince True Believers.
However there are many of us, both scientists and non-scientists, who are capable of critical analysis and separating the wheat from the chaff, the sheep from the goats, so to speak.
I will say it again – the Earth’s climate has always been changing, and it has nothing to do with Mankind. You True Believers are probably not aware – and probably don’t even care – that nature’s annual contribution of CO2 is over 30 times greater than all of mankind’s. And that the “greenhouse gas” that has the most effect is not even CO2, but water vapor. Should we get rid of water vapor? And CO2 is NOT a “pollutant”! I suspect you are the same people who would ban that deadly chemical compound used by corporations and industry worldwide, dihydrogen oxide, if only you could!
REDVETTE | 6/28/2006, 2:03 pm EST
When are you people going to grow up and and quit pretending gore won anything? The NYT and the WaPo both did a through “recount”and concluded that gore did indeed LOSE.
mike | 6/28/2006, 2:39 pm EST
Crap like this is why I cancelled my subscription to what I thought was supposed to be a MUSIC magazine.
BTW, the primary reason the snow is vanishing on Kilimanjaro is that the forests on and around the mountain have been cleared by local tribes … not “evil CO2″.
mor10 | 6/28/2006, 2:56 pm EST
Longbow wrote:
“that nature’s annual contribution of CO2 is over 30 times greater than all of mankind’s”
State your source please
“the “greenhouse gas” that has the most effect is not even CO2, but water vapor.”
yes, and global warming is heating up the oceans – thus making more water vapour. this by the way is the poorest of criticisms there is: arguing that there is no global warming by pointing out that there are other factors that have an impact as well.
mike wrote:
“BTW, the primary reason the snow is vanishing on Kilimanjaro is that the forests on and around the mountain have been cleared by local tribes … not “evil CO2″.”
This is complete and utter rubbish. Deforestation has ZERO impact on galciers. The reason for the glaciers of Kilimajaro melting is a global increase in surface temperature that is pushing the tree-line upwards. Yes, deforestation does impact global warming because most of the trees are burned, but that is only a minute impact compared to the millions of polluting cars and coal powerplants in the US.
Keep in mind: most US made cars are illegal in Europe because their emissions are so enormous. In fact, a modern US car pollutes MORE than a 1975 model of the same brand.
You can choose not to believe all the facts but please don’t try to nitpick your way out of realizing that ALL the scientific evidence, even from the most conservative and careful estimates show a signifficant global warming caused by the increase of CO2 in the atmosphere.
I repeat: Global Warming is an accepted truth based on science in ALL other countries except the USA. Why? because the US government is hugely dependent on Oil and Coal companies for their funding. Even George W. Bush admits that global warming is caused by human influence. He just doesn’t want to do anything about it because it would cause his friends in the oil and coal industry to lose some money.
Allie | 6/28/2006, 3:05 pm EST
Most of us realize that the earth has had many climate changes over its existence. But, ten independent scientific studies all have found a large 20th-century warming trend compared to temperature changes over the past millennium or two. There are many causes from both natural and man made sources that effect Global warming. The major causes of climate change are carbon dioxide (CO2) and other greenhouse gas variations, human activity, ocean circulation, volcanic eruptions, solar variations, orbital variations, and land use changes.
There are factors that can amplify or reduce the effect of the causes of change. Yes, one of these factors is water vapor and it does contribute two-thirds of the greenhouse effect. Methane is the second most significant cause of greenhouse warming, behind carbon dioxide. Cows are one of the greatest methane emitters. Options for reducing methane emissions go beyond reducing beef and dairy consumption. They include reducing methane emissions from mines, gas production facilities, and landfills.
Before the Industrial Revolution, the amount of CO2 emitted from large natural sources closely matched the amount that was removed through natural processes. That balance has now been upset by human activities, which since the Industrial Revolution have put twice as much CO2 into the atmosphere as can be readily removed by the oceans and forests. This has resulted in the accumulation of CO2 to the highest levels in 420,000 years.
By burning coal, oil, petroleum and natural gas, humans are adding CO2 to the atmosphere much faster than the carbon in rocks is released through natural processes. Clearing and burning forests converts organic carbon, to carbon dioxide gas. Forest ecosystems can purify water, and trees can remove pollution from the air, the current rate of deforestation only compounds the problem. The oceans and land plants are absorbing a portion, but not nearly all of the CO2 which is added to the atmosphere by human activities.
Future CO2 emissions will depend on future population growth, technology developments, and global policy choices. To protect the health and economic well-being of current and future generations, we must reduce our emissions of heat-trapping gases by using the technology, know-how, and practical solutions already at our disposal.
mike | 6/28/2006, 3:28 pm EST
mor 10, what are YOUR sources? Just because your country blindly believes in state planned economies doesn’t mean we should follow you off the edge.
BTW,the EU will not come close to reaching its Kyoto goals.
It’s the COST of trying to stop something we may be powerless to do anything about that concerns me. Shall we tell the 3rd world to “tough it out” while we devote finite finances to trying to prevent climate change.
Esther | 6/28/2006, 3:50 pm EST
I can’t believe that everyone is more worried about Al Gore than the issue he’s bringing to the table. Whatever his sources and whether or not each of his facts is super precise is irrelevant. Are we going to believe that slavery or the holocaust didn’t happen if someone gets some facts wrong in a text book?
Bonnie K.S. | 6/28/2006, 4:24 pm EST
People should take a look at a book by Kenneth Deffeyes. Title: Beyond Oil, the View from Hubbert’s Peak. I heard him speak at Caltech…this little engineering school in Pasadena, CA. The world’s oil production has peaked and we are on the downhill slope. Industries hardest hit will be aviation and agriculture. Good news….CO2 is being transported in pipelines from SE Colorado to the Permian Basin in W. Texas for enhanced oil recovery. Also being piped to Canada for oil recovery. No politcal agenda in the book just science.
pliefordays | 6/28/2006, 5:31 pm EST
People WAKE up!!! Our planet is being destroyed!!!!!!!!!!
mikel | 6/28/2006, 6:21 pm EST
Not accepting global warming is like not accepting evolution. Just go bury your head in the sand and then everything’ll be okay.
Capitalist Pig | 6/28/2006, 7:30 pm EST
Now that you mention evolution, that cannot be proven either. But if you believe it is true then why are you afraid of global warming? I mean we will evolve and learn to live on the hotter planet. Like we evolved from an organism in the ocean to an ape then to man. And since we evolved from apes, why are there still apes? Another crock of shit.
Jack D | 6/28/2006, 7:48 pm EST
GW Dumbass won both elections because the election officials in Ohio and Florida were hoping for a reach- around after they fucked with the results. Reciprocial blow jobs from hotKarl and friends.
zeke | 6/28/2006, 10:55 pm EST
is there any “data” concerning per capita production of greenhouse gases? yes, we must do our part, but we must hold other nations we trade with accountable as well.
Becca | 6/29/2006, 8:27 am EST
Zeke – there are several scientific sites that give data concerning greenhouse gas production. You will find sites providing scientific data from both sides of this issue. Type in greenhouse gases or global warming and you will find them.
Capitalist Pig – Your statement “if humans evolved from apes why are there still apes?” Dogs evolved from wolves and there are still wolves. Polar bears evolved form brown bears, again we still have both. Domesticated cats evolved from African wild cats with the earliest documented domestication occuring in Egypt. There are many more examples. A divergence of a prototype does not atomatically render the continuance of the prototype unnecessary or undesirable.
Even if you don’t believe that humans evolved from apes, you must admit that early humans were much less intelligent than most humans today. So following that logic if smart people evolved from stupid people – why do we still have stupid people?
Capitlist Pig | 6/29/2006, 9:37 am EST
Becca, Polar bears and brown bears are both bears, not two completely different species. Same holds for dogs and wolves. Gaining intelligence is not evolving, it is adapting, not the same thing. There is no fossil record showing evolution. Fossills show completely intact animals, no in between, which would be the case if evolution were true.
I personally do not follow evolution or creation. But neither can be proven as fact, nor disproven.
Becca | 6/29/2006, 10:44 am EST
Capitalist Pig – Good point. Actually I don’t follow evolutionism or creationism either. As, it has never been actually proven that humans are of primate origin. But, you have to admit that this sparring was fun. It keeps things interesting.
Raced | 6/29/2006, 11:16 am EST
Amazing!! Evolution hasn’t been proven, global warming doesn’t exist, The US exports nothing but apple pie, and we all live in the great ignorant ‘democracy’…..And we wonder why to everyone but the blinkered few, the US is no longer the bright beacon of the developed world. That’s cool Capitalist Pig, hug your SUV, send your grandchildren to school in a spacesuit and hope they’ve ‘evolved’ enough to be a little less shortsighted. pfffft
Mike | 6/29/2006, 3:43 pm EST
Richard: Are you and Al Gore having a “Who’s the Batsh*t Craziest” contest? I’d offer that website you link to as proof. Sadly, even as daft as it is , it’s STILL not as nuts as Al’s movie. Try harder!
mikel | 6/29/2006, 3:49 pm EST
The transition between evolutionary stages is plain as day. Just go hunt for a northern snakehead fish in the south-east US, or check out the Tiktaalik roseae fossil that was just found in Canada.
The point is there are many smarter, much-better educated people out there than the rest of us who come to these conclusions. Just because you don’t understand it doesn’t mean it’s not true. You put your life in the hands of science every time you drive a car, or fly in a plane, or have a serious medical procedure. You trust what your surgeon says or your doctor recommends even though you can’t see what’s actually happening inside your body. Global warming is the same thing. Either you trust that the peer-reviewed scientific community knows what they’re talking about or you might as well live in a religious commune.
Mike | 6/29/2006, 4:12 pm EST
Oh, they’re our “betters”! So fu*k skepticism? We’d all better get in line or else? Funny how that can turn around and bite you on the ass sometimes.
Need I remind you than a consensus and “prevailing wisdom” almost killed Galileo?
I trust science, not when it’s politicized. Have you ever considered that anthropogenic global warming hype merchants are just as beholden to their bankrollers as warmimg naysayers are accused of being to theirs.
Whenever someone is demanding huge amounts of money to futher study somethihg FURTHER to prove WHY they need to extract limited resources from people and then shills like you say I have to “trust them”, I’m very skeptical.
You could find an echo chamber of peers (who are riding the same gravy train)to posit ANYTHING. Doesn’t make it a fact!
seabiscuit | 6/29/2006, 5:36 pm EST
i have a question about the people who pretend climate crisis is not the disasater it is. if you are the president of exxon getting paid a billion dollars to deny it, that’s just cashing your check. but if you’re not, then why in the world are you denying it?
Capitalist Pig | 6/29/2006, 6:03 pm EST
Sorry for the typo. I meant to say I do not think it is my business what others drive.
Alicia | 6/29/2006, 6:32 pm EST
Drive a Jaguar myself. Great gas mileage – 30 plus in city – over 40 on Highway. Feels like you’re floating when you drive – but I also carpool and walk when possible. I will be looking into a hybrid before long – going to miss the Jag. The Brits designed a fine car, and Ford still builds it well.
I grew up in Florida and lived there until just a few years ago. I also lived in Slidell, LA just across Lake Ponchartrain from New Orleans. Lived through many hurricanes in both states, but the hurricanes are definitely worse now. Yes, huge storms have hit before, but they were not joined by several of their friends in the same season. Before you would have usually one or occasionally two powerful storms in one year. Now the powerful storms come in multiples and so fast that the people I know couldn’t get a new roof on their houses because the storms just kept coming. So much damage.
In years past, you would usually get at most a category 3 and the rest would be cat 1 or 2. Sometimes a 4 or 5, but not like these past few years. Floridians had signs in their yards proclaiming themselves hurricane weary and desparate for relief. Overhead shots were filled with row after row of houses with only blue plastic sheeting for roofs. Some for at least two years some for even longer, because the roofers couldn’t get the work done fast enough to beat the new storms.
I live in Ohio now, and it certainly seems that the torrential rain storms that we have been having and subsequent flooding are worse than before. My county was declared a disaster zone for the first time since I moved here 19 years ago.
To quote Bob Dylan, “Times they are a changing.” We only have one planet. Let’s take care of her.
American traitor | 6/29/2006, 7:05 pm EST
I think we should follow Dick Cheney’s lead in looking at this problem as recounted by Ron Suskind in his book “The One Percent Doctrine”.
That is: if there is even a 1% chance that something disastrous could befall our country (not to mention the entire frickin’ world) then we hunt it down and deal with it as if it was a 100% certainty.
And for the self-appointed
avenging guardians of capitalism: As my Republican brethren might say, “You can’t spend much if you’re dead.”
Mike | 6/29/2006, 7:07 pm EST
Chris Landsea who works as science operations officer at NOAA’s National Hurricane Center in Miami, crunched the numbers and found no increase in the number or intensity of Category 4 and 5 hurricanes globally over the past fifteen years; by his calculations, even a four-degree increase in ocean temperature by the end of this century would have only a small effect on hurricane intensity.
Why are record heat waves AND record cold spells, droughts AND above average rainfall ALL attributed to GW? I suppose it helps with the gullible “we’re all gonna die/the sky is falling” crowd when EVERY conceivable weather event allegedly “proves” your case.
Is the unusual success of the Detroit Tigers due to GW? Can I blame “boy bands” on GW? Is my beer gut due to GW?
What I most object to most is the theory of man-made global warming.
Perhaps there is a natural uptick. I don’t buy these self serving doomsday scenarios for a second.
Instead of crippling the economy trying to stave off the “inevitable”, why don’t spend our limited financial resouces to adapt to it.
Capitalist Pig | 6/29/2006, 7:39 pm EST
Mike – I agree 100%.
American Traitor – I don’t think we should just polute without a care. No one wants dirty rivers and air pollution. But socialism is not the answer. You can’t spend it if you are not allowed to make it, either. I don’t understand this hate the rich mentality. The CEO of my company is rich, and thanks to that I have a damn good paying job. How does making everyone poor solve poverty? Economic growth solves poverty.
Alicia – I lived in Houma, La. in the early 1980’s. 1985 to be exact. And that year La. got hit by 3 hurricanes. Danny in Aug., Elena in Sept., and Juan in Oct. It does happen, it is natural.
J | 6/29/2006, 9:14 pm EST
Yes, I do believe the Earth’s temperature may be warming, but climatic change has always happened and it will continue to happen. If you believe that mankind (Americans is what they mean) has been coming close to destroying the Earth in the last 100 + years (Industrial Revolution), regardless of the fact that volcanoes have shot out extreme amounts of harmful pollutants for eons, asteroids have been slamming into us since the beginning of time, and the sun has been more active recently, yet the Earth has managed to stay alive, then you are a lunatic.
If you were a true enviromentalist, and not an anti-capitalist, then you would be WAY more disturbed with many, many more countries, namely China, than the U.S but that is not your agenda. It is sad, but the environmental movement was hijacked a long time ago and their mission has nothing to do with actually helping the enviroment.
Capitalist Pig | 6/29/2006, 9:37 pm EST
J..you are dead right. The evironuts are like watermelons..green on the outside but red on the inside.
Amazed | 6/30/2006, 6:20 am EST
How does a country get so screwed up in only a couple of hundred years of independence? Grow up People!
amazed in Asia | 6/30/2006, 6:42 am EST
I thought Rolling Stone readers were generally intelligent. After seeing in shock that most posts insist on denying the obvious–climate change is happening, and too fast to evolve to it, unfortunately–and very few posts show any real understanding of current events or science, I have changed my mind.
I live in Asia. If you Americans can’t see climate change despite the storms you’ve had recently, the drowning polar bears, and the Eskimo tribes having to leave their islands, I suppose sharing my hemisphere’s stories of island nations getting submerged, historically unique landslides, typhoons (our hurricanes), flooding, drought (yes, drought and too much rain are both caused by too-hot air), massive coral die-offs from too-warm water, and all the other “symptoms” won’t convince you either.
I hope the Americans willing to seriously consider and act on this issue outnumber those howling in denial of it. If not, forget us turning to America for leadership on this issue or anything else anymore. The country is just too stupid. Soon American scientists will have to leave their country to find work elsewhere, just as happened with the great Soviet scientists under Lysenko’s myopic reign.
If you think global warming is just a paranoid conspiracy by liberals, fine. But then what benefit does the rest of the world outside America and its politics have in recognizing and being very, very alarmed by global warming, as we are? We don’t care about your politics. We just want our islands back, and the floods and droughts to go away, and to avoid the worse that is surely to come.
amazed in Asia | 6/30/2006, 6:53 am EST
Also, I thought some of America’s mottoes were “United we stand, divided we fall” and “E pluribus, unum.” Why am I seeing so much hatred and suspicion between Americans? It’s looking more like “E unum, pluribus.”
Maybe America won’t be able to get its act together until it gets itself together in some semblance of rational unity, and Americans stop hating each other with so much politically-caused prejudice. Emotion blinds! Use reason and detachedly consider things.
antoinette B | 6/30/2006, 8:38 am EST
yes we all have to do something. We are seeing the results of global warming,by the weather we are having. God help us help ourselves.
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J | 6/30/2006, 9:37 am EST
Antoinette: Yes, you’re right, our planet has never had bad weather before now, good observation, thanks for showing me the light.
Amazed in Asia: Alot of the world would love to see us weaker and that is exactly what the Kyoto treaty would do, which is what I assume you think is something the U.S should sign. Maybe you should look into the “world’s antidote” for global warming a little and ask yourself why is it that many countries are allowed to continue polluting, much worse than us, and face no concequences, that’s not being nice to Mother Earth is it, while we would basically have to meet an almost unreachable standard. It is only to bring to U.S down to a level playing field. Liberalism breeds contempt for those that have achieved and no country has achieved more than us.
Capitlist Pig | 6/30/2006, 9:44 am EST
Alicia – My blood pressure is fine, but you should check your facts. The US has only been hit by 3 Cat. 5 Hurricanes in history, in 1935(unnamed), 1969 (Camille), and 1992 (Andrew). Katrina, Rita, and Dennis made landfall as cat. 3’s, Emily and Wilma as 4’s. It is not unusual for a storm to be a 5 while at sea, then weaken as it moves into the gulf.
Capitlist Pig | 6/30/2006, 10:24 am EST
Alicia – Just wanted to say that the last response was not a personal attack on you. Just a little insight. We will see what this year holds in store.
Jack D | 6/30/2006, 12:31 pm EST
I think I agree with Ang a little. We all need to chill out, twist up a fatty and RELAX. The current political climate has us all acting like retarded truckers. I don’t know what that means, it just sounded funny. Anyway, the politicians are giving all of us a massive mind fuck. No one knows what is true and what is fat cat bullshit. I think before we let the elected mafia influence us into destroying ourselves with all this bantering we need to look at the causes. We need a new political system. Yea, I know, easier said than done. Our TV shows, radio, papers, family gatherings, and the congress and Washington, etc. are starting to sound like a Jerry Springer show with all this heated hatred for the “other” side. I think deep down we all want the same shit. We just cant agree on how to get there and what is most important to me is a worthless crock of shit to say..capitalist pig, for example. America is not the loved, feared, and respected big brother to the world anymore. We are the arrogant, asshole frat boy that everyone wants to beat the shit out of just out of principle.
Angie | 6/30/2006, 12:52 pm EST
Thank you Jack D! You are welcome at my party anytime. I liked your comments too, a little more flavorful than I would put it, but straightforward and honest none the less.
Emily, thanks to you too.
someweirdguy | 6/30/2006, 3:55 pm EST
im seeing a trend of hypocrisy towards closedmindedness here…the last thing our country needs right now is more people unwilling to accept the cold truths that are becoming more apparent every day. im 13 so theres not much i can do about global warming except not toss wrappers on the sidewalk, yet i feel that people are turning the issue of global warming into a partisan one. jack D i love your comment and i couldnt agree more that humans share the same goals. people who place all their trust into the hands of their political party arent doing good for anyone. the facts all say that its getting warmer. also, studies have shown that areas with high amounts of pollution lower standardized testing scores than surrounding areas. if you dont want to prevent pollution for the sake of global warming, you have to ask yourself, is clean air that bad? i live a few miles away from a large industrial site and its never pitch black out because of the orange glow generated by the site. its becoming increasingly difficult to see stars at night. coal and oil megaconglomerates are making enough money already, and if you cant sacrifice a few years of working overtime to pay for a car with better mileage and less CO2, well youre just a pussy
micahjoel@gmail.com | 6/30/2006, 4:59 pm EST
Firstly, I voted for Bush… twice. I think that most would agree that the current administration has moved us into a very sad and unfortunate position that could have been easily avoided and would have been avoided were it not for the Bush administration’s paranoia and hunger for more oil for America. I’m not concerned with the moral implications, so much as I am with the fact that whether they knew what they were doing was right or wrong- moral or immoral- they failed to concoct a competent plan. This administration is not fit to run a country- especially in times like these. Not that it matters. They’re going to be in the Whitehouse until the next election.
There is certainly something to Al’s message and a frightening number of facts to support it- and I don’t mean Farenheit 9/11 type “facts.” I’m rather conservitive and as I said I supported Bush… supported him until it became blindingly clear that he and his administration are deluded and misguided. We made a big mistake. It’s nothing to be ashamed of. We were all deceived. Even if Global Warming is not the threat that Gore says it is- his campaign will greatly benenfit the country if for no other reason because it will reduce our country’s reliance on foreign oil and China’s financial aid. It’s a win win situation.
Al,
Please run for president.
Regards,
Micah
PS. Looser is spelled correctly. Consider consulting your dictionary before making (incorrect) corrections in such a public medium. Just a thought.
And Al,
When you run for president- please remain a radical- remain one of us and do not allow yourself to get bogged down in the political process. Create a nation where the people truly have a voice and a vote.
ERam | 7/1/2006, 1:00 pm EST
To be candid, I don’t often read up on environmental issues such as this, but I’m not completely apathetic towards the matter. The simple steps Al Gore cites as measures that can be taken to reduce CO2 are quite surprising. I had no idea that so much carbon dioxide could be preserved with so little effort. But I have two more questions: why didn’t this man dominate the 2000 elections and wny are people reckelessly depleating our one and only earth?
andrea silverthonre | 7/1/2006, 1:19 pm EST
While al Gore talks intelligently about the problem and its causes, he never mentions the best solution, which would be the solution of President John Kennedy; the tapping of our Oceans currents and tides to give us electricity. John Kennedy was about to construct the first tidal dam off the coast of Maine when he was killed. We can replace fossil fuel in power production around the world in ten short years. One has to wonder why Gore is not savvy on this subject and never mentions it.
christa forsythe, canada | 7/1/2006, 9:18 pm EST
He should have been the president.
Imagine, the change he could have made, the impact of his convictions and the legacy he would have left the United States with after his term(s). It is appalling to me that it is Bush and not Gore who is making the decisions in the most powerful country in the world. But, I guess the joy of being human is acknowledging our combined mistakes, and making the effort to change those mistakes to learning lessons. Lead on, Al, even I, as a Canadian will follow.
christa forsythe, canada | 7/1/2006, 10:03 pm EST
as an aside, I think Capitalist Pig (fitting moniker) and Mike should be given some kudo’s for knowing everything. They should join Bush and Co, as spin doctors.
I agree with some of the rest of the posters on this thread, that ignoring the obvious truth is only going to get you further behind. The US is known to be protectionist, and here they are protecting themselves from world flack, but not protecting the very environment that sustains them. Open your eyes. Most of your natural resources are no longer your own, they are bought from other countries, like Canada, China, the Middle East, etc, etc. A day will come when these commodities that you so value will become more expensive, less attainable, and suddenly, no longer at your beck and call. The world is watching, and while you may say you don’t care and it doesn’t matter, it will when your government is looking around for friends that you and them brushed off as fanatics and whacko’s. You should read your own posts boys, because it’s extremely obvious who the whacko’s are, and it isn’t the pro environmentalists. And, if you know it all, you should also know that no one elses opinion can ever be wrong…so be respectful, and stop trying to pound propaganda down everyone’s throats. All media is tainted by someone’s view, and that includes your own sources. You are only trying to convince yourselves.
Jory | 7/2/2006, 2:00 am EST
“The man who won the presidency in 2000 is looser and more outspoken than ever.”
That’s quite an arrogant comment, Rolling Stone. Too bad it’s false reporting. Bush may or may not have won unfairly, but he did win, and he is our president.
Global warming is a big problem, but not nearly as bad as Al Gore thinks it is, and not nearly as not-serious as uber-conservatives think it is.
Robbo | 7/2/2006, 3:01 am EST
Ignorance is clearly a WMD. I don’t believe the amount of good-natured commuters even come close to the amount of sadistic wasteful freaks that are sadly just ordinary people that seem unthreatening. Humans have been a threat to themselves since the beginning of time. Our ingenious ancestors hatched this up subconcsciously and the little we do now will barely lift the load off our fragile backs. But it is nice to see now some people are thinking. Sorry for the harsh comment it’s the worst I have
outraged | 7/2/2006, 4:20 am EST
The problem is not only global warming. What if some cataclysmic event nearly wiped us all out. Who would likely survive? If it is those in power now, will we start all over again exactly where we left off. Now thats a frightening scenario.
outraged | 7/2/2006, 5:07 am EST
We are man
We are each and everyone
but much time has past
Since we have been men
And we have become Gods
As time has past
And it has been so much time
Since we have been men
We are man we are
Each and everyone
Not Gods Not angels
But only men watched
by all and one
M. Thielke | 7/2/2006, 9:37 am EST
Editors of Rolling.S. are as guity as Al.G. in blowing Global W. out of context. “Take a look at the story, see images of planetwide damage caused by global warming…” Since when is melting snow planetwide damage? Earth has been warming for 1000s of years-a natural considition. And All could not reverse it in 10 years if it were a man-made condition, Certainly not in 2-terms his is relishing to be POTUS.
gore | 7/2/2006, 11:52 am EST
first, gore lost in 2000 .. perhaps rolling stone should ‘Move-On’ .. Bush won the first count and the recount in Florida giving him the electoral college win. An analysis later by the New York Times found that a full recount would have most likely still given the victory to bush depending on what methodology was to be used. As for global warming .. I’m old enough to remember the ‘threat’ of global cooling. I believe it was the so called greenhouse gasses that were supposed to cause the cooling .. so excuse me if i don’t get all worked up for this global warming hysteria.
georgiagal | 7/2/2006, 12:15 pm EST
GLOBAL WARMING IS CAUSED BY THE SUN! Al Gore just needs to promote his mockumentry to feed his wallet and his larger than life ego.He still doesn’t realizehe LOST the election so he is still campaigning, let’s just hope he loses the next one also or we are all in deep trouble. He’ll have Michael Moore as his vice-president.
Chengster | 7/2/2006, 3:23 pm EST
Capaitalist Pig-
Fantastic work holding off the ignorant hoards! Sorry to say your work will likely have no effect.
Environmental kookism is a religion, an article of faith, and the practitioners are not swayed by science, logic or facts. They trumpet the fact that the earth is warmer today than it has been in 400 years without asking the obvious question “what was happening on earth 400 years ago?” Of course the answer is that the same thing was happening back then that’s happening now; natural climate change. Most people believe there was an ice-age; is there any doubt that natual climate change caused the warming that brought the planet out of that ice-age?
I really don’t expect the above common sense to change anyone’s mind, but it makes me feel better to write it down. Thanks for your indulgence.
outraged | 7/2/2006, 5:59 pm EST
Even without global warming why don’t some of you pollution doubters try sucking on an exhaust pipe for a while and see what happens you arrogent yuppies
outraged | 7/2/2006, 6:10 pm EST
After about what, five or ten years of teaching kids about saving the environment. Many, maybe too many are dropped at the worlds doorstep thinking there is no hope, so whats the use. Is there is too much corruption for even superman to defeat?
Michael Cust, Canada | 7/2/2006, 6:12 pm EST
outraged,
Reductio ad absurdum: why don’t you swallow some arsenic, radiation, or coal, which all occur naturally, have amazonian parasites swim up your urine stream and eat at your insides, live with rattlesnakes, play with a Sidney funnelweb spider, play in a forest fire caused by lightning, live without medical science, and see what happens to you flaky-hippie types.
AL Gore | 7/2/2006, 6:18 pm EST
Thanks for the pizza AL.
Jorge W Bush | 7/2/2006, 6:19 pm EST
Hey Al, me and Tony Blair are having pizza at the White House tonight care to join us?
Pizza Hut Guy | 7/2/2006, 6:23 pm EST
Welcome to Pizza Hut can i take your order?
outraged | 7/2/2006, 6:24 pm EST
ya, if so maybe carbon monoxide won’t hurt you superman
Personaly I wouldn’t mind catching a fish that wasn’t full of mercury.
Ever hear of the great lakes,most nothing but great big sewers now! Price tag–billions to clean up because of attitudes like yours
outraged | 7/2/2006, 6:41 pm EST
In the medical profession today the focus has taken on a preventative side. Even if we are not causing global warming, what’s wrong with cleaning up our act. We have the technology.
outraged | 7/2/2006, 7:38 pm EST
“Hey I’m no genius. I’d be the first one to say I was wrong, but I see something here. We are all lined up against one another all claiming we know better
“Ya, that’s crap moron
“Oh ya, we’ll what the hell do you know
“Oh ya, well what the hell do you know
“Oh ya, well my scientist says…
“Ya, well mine says…
And here we are. Everyone on both sides has their scientists and politicians and doomsayers all lined up and ready to blame the other side for the mess we‘re in. And if we weren’t in a mess, we wouldn’t be here right. But one side has the advantage, the side with the most money unfortunately. And we all know who that is. But there is an equaliser, the kicker is neither side really knows what the hell is going on do we? It‘s true if you think about it. So shouldn’t we at least err on the side of caution. If we are the intelligent race we like to think we are that is the only option we have left, isn’t it?
marlowe anderson | 7/2/2006, 10:24 pm EST
Al Gore’s relation to science is like Wm. Shatner’s to the Galaxy–in his imagination and filled with wishful thinking that riding pseudo science will make him as smart as Spock! The man is incompetent and incomprehensible. The best thing that ever happened to America was his defeat in 2,000.
Capitalist Pig | 7/2/2006, 10:36 pm EST
christa forsythe, canada – The reason the US has to get all it’s oil from other countries is because of evivronuts. The US has the second largest oil reserves int the world. But the evironuts and the dems, who they own, will not allow us to drill. If it came down to not having these resources, then people of this country would quickly demand that we drill.
As for your statement that we will only fall further behind, further behind who? Last time I checked ever major invention of the last 100+ years was made by Americans. We are the only nation to put men on the moon and return them safely.
And all of “hate big oil” types might want to take a good look around at all the products that come from oil. Things like plastic, mylar, vinyl, and many more things are called petroleum by-products. You would not have your pc’s, and Ipods and many other things without these by-products. Not to mention all the factories that produce these things run on electricity, mostly from coal fired plants.
I am sure the return to nature – live in a commune thing sounds real cool in theory, try it in reality and you will long for the modern conviences that oil brings you.
outraged | 7/2/2006, 11:20 pm EST
Living the way one wants is a personal chioce and shouldn’t be a target in this discussion. As for longing for pollution causing by-products, guess we better teach our children well Because if another ice age is a reality, everyone will be thrown back to the stone age.
Jeff | 7/2/2006, 11:44 pm EST
CO2 is not a pollutant, its is why we have plants, i.e. oxygen to breath …
Bad scince in the 70’s got DDT effectively banned worldwide. How many cases of Malaria did we have in America in 1994 ? 1,000 ? more like 0 … because we used DDT …
Last year the rest of the world had 300,000,000 cases with over 2,000,000 dead …
Bad science in this one instance has caused over 60,000,000 deaths, more than all the wars of the 20th century …
Fool me once … not again …
outraged | 7/3/2006, 12:00 am EST
not all mosquitoes carry the malaria virus if thats what it isstrain, like not all carry the west nile virus. Hey DDT kiled every insect and was moving up the food chain. Read Silent spring, by Raquel Carson I believe.
outraged | 7/3/2006, 3:25 am EST
Diesel exhaust includes over 40 substances that are listed by the United States Environmental Protection Agency (U.S. EPA) as hazardous air pollutants and by the ARB as toxic air contaminants. Fifteen of these substances are listed by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) as carcinogenic to humans, or as a probable or possible human carcinogen. Some of these substances are: acetaldehyde; antimony compounds; arsenic; benzene; beryllium compounds; bis(2-ethylhexyl)phthalate; dioxins and dibenzofurans; formaldehyde; inorganic lead; mercury compounds; nickel; POM (including PAHs); and styrene.
outraged | 7/3/2006, 3:28 am EST
Diesel engine exhaust contains small carbonaceous particles and a large number of chemicals that are adsorbed onto these particles or present as vapors. These particles have been the subject of many studies because of their adverse effects on human health and the environment. A recent study conducted for the Health Effects Institute showed that, despite a substantial reduction in the weight of the total particulate matter, the total number of particles from a 1991-model engine was 15 to 35 times greater than the number of particles from a 1988 engine when both engines were operated without emission control devices. This suggests that more fine particles, a potential health concern, could be formed as a result of new technologies. Further study is needed since the extent of these findings only measured exhaust from two engines and engine technologies.
outraged | 7/3/2006, 3:32 am EST
car exhaust
Carbon monoxide
Nitrogen dioxide
Nitrogen monoxide
Sulphur dioxide
Suspended particles including PM-10, particles less than 10 microns
Benzene
Formaldehyde
Polycyclic hydrocarbons
outraged | 7/3/2006, 3:42 am EST
mmmm mmmmm good
mel | 7/3/2006, 10:15 am EST
I actually have no doubt that we are changing the climate of the earth through our actions. It’s not the first time humans have destroyed the natural environment, it’s just this time we’re doing it on a global scale.
However, even if this wasn’t the case, I don’t understand what’s wrong with finding new, cleaner sources of fuel and becoming more responsible for the world in which we live. Why not?
Chengster | 7/3/2006, 10:30 am EST
Mel, when was the last time humans destroyed the natural environment?
Jack D | 7/3/2006, 1:17 pm EST
Chengster;
Chernobyl, Three mile island, China is on the verge, Alaska/Valdez, shall I go on.
Chengster | 7/3/2006, 2:08 pm EST
With the exception of Chernobyl those are all localized messes not the destruction of the environement. If Chernobyl had happenned in the US (or any first world country) it would have been cleaned up by now, though it probably would have never happened. BTW China is on the verge of what? Becoming wealthy enough to undo the damage 60 years of the socialist policies most environmentalist support has caused? I hope so.
mel | 7/3/2006, 3:24 pm EST
Chengster,
It sounds like you have a very particular definition of “environment” if something has to effect the entire world to be included. Local environments are still part of the environment. And dangerous climate changes are still dangerous, whether they are caused by human action or exacerbated by human action. The facts of a warmer climate are cause for concern and action no matter what.
And again I ask, what is wrong with trying to live cleaner and more responsibly even if there is no connection to climate change and human action at all?
mel | 7/3/2006, 4:51 pm EST
Even though scientists have warned of emission dangers since early in the industrial revolution, for argument’s sake let’s say that the internal combustion engine is not causing global warming.
1. They still cause huge health hazards. Air quality has been hugely impacted (from Victorian England to present-day Los Angeles). It’s pointless to pretend that it’s harmless. Ozone and fine-particle pollution leads to heart attacks, asthma, chronic lung disease, strokes, lung cancer and other health problems.
2. The environmental impact of pumping and shipping oil has been demonstrated again and again. For instance, off-shore drilling destroys kelp beds, reefs and coastal wetlands and causes health and reproductive problems for fish and other marine life.
3. There’s a limited suppy of fossil fuel. Unless we come up with new sources of energy, scarcity will continue to cause societal issues that will impact all of us.
I actually love cars. I was brought up by a father who restored old cars and hot rods. However, I don’t think you can say they are harmless in any way.
Capitalist Pig | 7/3/2006, 6:03 pm EST
mel – Your statement that offshore drilling hurts sea life is wrong. I worked offshore, the rigs become a man made reef. They are teaming with life.
I am all for finding other sources of energy, but as soon as we do the envronuts will scream about that too. If we go to ethenol they will complain that we are killing the innocent corn, and the world is going to end.
outraged – There is no evidence that DDT causes any harm to humans. DDT was examined by a EPA judge for 7 months, and some 9,000 pages of documents in 1972, and he ruled the substance completely safe. He was overturned by then-EPA administrator William Ruckleshaus, who never heard any of the testimony, or read any of the evidence the presented to the judge. Seems Mr. Ruckleshaus was a member of the Audubon Society, which led the attempts to ban DDT.
Rachel Carson’s book had no basis in fact. No scientific evidence backed her claims. Human volunteers ingested 600 times normal levels of DDT with no negative side effects. Thanks to the psuedo science of the envronuts 600,000 people die each year of malaria.
The socialist/communist realized that there agenda would never fly with the American people, especially after the fall of the USSR. During the socialist movement the worker was the victim of the ruling class and needed to rise up and seize the means of production.
Now they call themselves eviromentalist and the worker is the problem. We must save prevent the working people from killing mother earth. When it all is said and done it is the same old movement with the same old agenda.
mel | 7/3/2006, 8:29 pm EST
Capitalist Pig,
I hope to God you are right. I fear that you are mistaken.
And I fear that my own son and those who will live over the next hundred years will be the ones suffering for our misguided actions.
Capitalist Pig | 7/3/2006, 9:11 pm EST
Mikhail Gorbachev is now an eviromentalist. Need I say more.
Australia | 7/4/2006, 12:45 am EST
I can’t belive I live on the same planet as some of you redneck. GLOBAL WARMING is real and Capitalist Pig your just screwed! Need I say more
Pizza Hut Guy | 7/4/2006, 2:23 am EST
Hurry up and get your pizza before it gets cold you arguing beatnics! Global Warming my ass!
Chengster | 7/4/2006, 9:36 am EST
Australia, here on earth we need facts to believe something. Which planet are you living on?
Capitalist Pig | 7/4/2006, 6:26 pm EST
Australia – What a profound response. You GW kooks are so deep. Funny how the GW crowd refers to those who oppose them as “the flat earth society”. Actually you should refer to yourself in that manner, because in the days of Columbus the “scientific consensus” was the world was flat. Columbus did not listen to “scientific consensus” he followed real science.
As for as me being a redneck, I guarantee you my education level is higher than yours. And I would rather be a redneck than a fool.
Michael John DeMato | 7/5/2006, 1:12 pm EST
This is an article for intelligent people. If anyone with less than average intelligence doesn’t understand the obvious importance here, he or she lives in a shoebox. As Jim Morrison said, “Look what they’ve done to the earth. Look what they’ve done to our fair sister . . . “
Capitalist Pig | 7/5/2006, 3:43 pm EST
Well I guess that proves it, I mean when I want scientific facts I always turn to alcoholic/cocaine addicted dead rock singers. Who knows science better?
truth | 7/6/2006, 3:32 pm EST
Why would people who care about the state of our natural environment even bother debating with someone who actually boasts of being a capitalist pig? Why bother.
Bush only won the election thanks to his brother so regardless of the shape of his office he has never been considered legitimate in many people’s eyes. Bush supporters may not like that fact but I guess they will have to get used to it…
Joe | 7/7/2006, 1:41 am EST
We’re lucky Al Gore never got in the White House.
Tom | 7/7/2006, 3:07 pm EST
You are right Joe, otherwise America not have a massive deficit or be embroiled in an unwinnable war.
Michael | 7/7/2006, 3:32 pm EST
Al has lit up the dark part of this era’s addiction to excess. It’s pretty scary and totally avoidable if we all do our part. I say don’t bother asking our idiot president for any help. In fact we should let the freak play his wargames while we save the world. It’s too risky to have somoneone like George Bush helping people. He’s better at hurting people. Let him do his job.
Dan | 7/7/2006, 11:32 pm EST
America is lucky that man didn’t become Prez.
Al Gore | 7/8/2006, 7:06 am EST
“This is an article for intelligent people. If anyone with less than average intelligence doesn’t understand the obvious importance here, he or she lives in a shoebox” ~Michael. I for one am insulted. How dare you make fun of retarted people. My daughter’s a retarted people and you insult me you racist? At least I never ran for president so I can kill Arabs and Mexicans like that other guy. What’s his name anyway? Oh well. He’s not getting any pizza that’s for sure.
Robbo | 7/8/2006, 7:10 am EST
That’s funny how many people ignore my silly imaginary comments about pizza when they butt heads about an issue that should better be resolved without “letterbombs” to each other. I’d like to see whose nonsense argument will appear in the magazine later on.
Robbo | 7/8/2006, 7:19 am EST
I think we’ll all be lucky if anyone who still supports Bush will decline an offer to presidency. an idiot like that shouldn’t run the country either. I suppose republicans or whoever supports Bush just wants to cry cuz they know Bush cheated his way into the doors of the White House, they just insist the oposite publicly. Like believing Tupac is still making music right now. Maybe he is, but that’s not the point. This country, at the turn of the century has already dived into shambles. There’s no fixing the stupid people for believeing in him. There should be, then we wouldn’t have to worry about burnt pizza crust now will we?
Robbo | 7/8/2006, 7:27 am EST
Think about how bad Bush WANTED to step up to the plate to FUCK up America! Think about why every day on the news is just a shouting terminal of controvesial messages. We weren’t in times like these 10 years ago. Now all we do online is argue at how stupid other people’s beliefs are. You know why I’m speaking this word in such a “private” rambling? Because I fuckin hate the ignorance of judgement people have. The only way to illistrate that is to put stupid jokes on this page. I know you won’t even care. But I for one, would’ve been happier growing up in a less selfish nation, without even an echo of American angst that needn’t exist. I rest my twisted mind now. There would be more words from me someday. This nation isn’t a victim of our president’s mistakes, it’s a victim for not fixing those messes and just waiting for new ones to stop by and slap us in the face. Thanks ROllingstone for actually proving the herecy that is the Bush Administration. I don’t give a shit who tells me to shut up. I won’t
Mr. Tim | 7/10/2006, 3:24 am EST
As an old person (I’m 43), I would like to make one comment.
The tips to save energy were taught to me in grade school. In the 1970’s.
It’s a shame that these simple, effective and relatively painless measures weren’t incorporated immediately into the American way of life.
GODZILLA2010 | 7/10/2006, 10:31 am EST
For all the rightwing radicals, Capitalist Pig included, I guess we need a much more devastating and year round Hurricane Season to prove the point about global warming…………
Capitalist Pig | 7/10/2006, 10:17 pm EST
GODZILLA2010 – Hurricanes run in cycles moron. We are currently in an up cycle, which was predicted long before chicken little released “an inconvient lie”.
Alvidas Jasin, Cleveland | 7/10/2006, 10:28 pm EST
A great article (and great film) on perhaps the most important issue of our generation. I was never a big Al Gore fan, but I went to see his movie, on the same night as the premiere of the new Superman flick. While the lines to see the man of steel were a block long, I was the only one in the theatre to see An Inconvenient Truth. Finally, about 10 minutes into the previews, another guy walks in and sits two seats away from me and says, “I guess we’re the only people tonight who want to save the planet.” And I replied, “I think everyone else must think that’s Superman’s job.”
Unless you are a complete cretin, you can’t watch Gore’s movie and not be moved to action. I plan to buy it for everyone I know when it comes to DVD (which, if my theatre experience is any gauge, won’t be too long now).
Liza | 7/11/2006, 11:29 pm EST
Well.. as a resident of Tennessee, I can at least say that Al Gore is not a “publicity hound and a sore loser” as ‘caymus’, the person who’s comment I see above this box says, if anything we consider him rather quiet and serious, when he gives lectures at colleges and universities here it is to a packed house…. and no, I won’t even bother to defend tennessee from those of you laughing and calling me redneck.. it’s obvious you haven’t been here and really gotten to know the place…. however, I am terribly concerned about global warming.. and have been since I was in college in the ’70’s and took a class in Environmental Science (Vanderbilt)…I have watched over the years as theories taught by the professor have over time come to be proven realities… this distresses me enormously… Then twenty years ago I moved to east Tennessee, to Gatlinburg in the Great Smoky Mountains, a truly beautiful place to be… When one lives in such close proximity to a huge natural area such as the Park..you tend to keep up with it’s health and wellbeing… I have worked with the park rangers on several projects and have hiked miles and miles of trails within the park….In the last ten years I have become closely associated with a big commercial greenhouse operation here in the area which really brought environmental difficulties to the forefront for me…
During the growing season we sell alot of plants that are local to this area, we get alot of folks who have admired the vegitation in the park and want to ‘take some home’…. the most striking of these plants are the Rhododendron and the Mountain Laurel that grow and bloom in the park and the surrounding area. Up until two years ago we had a local nursery who supplied the Rhododendron that we sold… Two years ago they were forced out of business because the temperatures in this area have warmed so much that after struggling for several years the whole crop failed. This isn’t a fragile plant.. it grows like a weed…In fact there are places in the Park referred to as Laurel Hells.. because the vegitation is so thick man can’t get thru….Rhodies and Mountain Laurel have been here since the country was first inhabited and before…they are some of the foremost native plants in this area. But the difference is now they are no longer being able to easily grow at the altitude of the town…and given a little more time they will recede up the mountain..
This not something that is a “ten year cycle” like the hurricanes..
altho i do agree that the warming is definately affecting them…this is a much more long term problem… There are other species in the area that are disappearing or suffering greatly..and this is something that is current to our time, which you learn by consulting some of the old original writings of the settlers and those who explored and studied the plant life of the area here hundreds of years ago…
Are we so afraid of facing something so awful and enormous and actually doing something to correct the downward spiral that we will sit and just let it happen?.. Are we SOOOOO positive that we know ALL the answers that we can’t admit we have made mistakes and we might be wrong?
Are we so involved with ourselves that we can’t even think about looking forward to what kind of mess we may be leaving our children and grandchildren???
I sit here in the beauty of this natural area… knowing that all but one of the rivers and creeks in the area are polluted to the point that you are risking your health to swim there…
How can we be so stupid as to do this to ourselves?
I belive the report that was released by the scientists two years ago, they were simply reiterating what I was taught in the 70’s…. but then we had a grace period in which to enact protective measures to prevent these problems… Now we just have a count down… in ten more years we WILL be past the point of no return.
Wake UP!
Capitalist Pig | 7/16/2006, 12:58 pm EST
Liza – If Tennessee loves him so much why did he lose the state in Presidential election?
katie | 7/17/2006, 3:39 am EST
After reading through the posts it became increasingly clear to me – “I’m right – you’re wrong” is the trend of most posts along with a large dose of close minded, judgemental, attack oriented rhetoric.
Now that I have said my say on previous posts (as it seems to be de riguer to do so) on to my own opinion.
The biggest challenge and obstacle to effect global warming is the seemingly brain dead American public – the complaisance and apathy for any action other than getting the morning drive thru Espresso shot is mind numbing.
I live in the Pacific NW and have seen a dramatic change in the weather from when I was a child to now my mid 50’s.
(Yes – and to any of you getting ready to send one of those nasty, attack posts – I am 53 and proud of it. I rode my bicycle to participate in the first Earth Day and have probably read Rolling Stone a lot longer than most.)
Our current administration has shown itself to be morally bankrupt and bespelled by their own lies and collusion.
The path to a future liveable environment is in each of you – will you sit by and let someone else steer us towards further ill thought decisions or will each one of us step forward to shout from the rooftops “I give a damn and I’m not going to take this anymore!”
Let your voice be heard!
If everyone took the time to forward the Rolling Stone email to friends, relatives, legislators and congressional representatives what a way to spread the message. It is my first step in helping to increase awareness and I hope it will be yours.
Capitalist Pig | 7/17/2006, 7:36 pm EST
katie you were at the first earth day? The one where everyone was warning us about the coming ice age, and how we were doomed if we did not do something – do something meaning socialism. So the ice never came. So what is next after the global warming scare does not work? The sun is going to fall from the sky if we don’t do something?
Capitalist Pig | 7/21/2006, 5:22 pm EST
Monica,
“..a person of such unparalled conviction and clarity of vision feels there..”
If his conviction is so unparalled why does he own $250,000 worth of stock in a oil company, while he runs around blaming the oil companies for destroying the world? How about unparalleled hypocrisy.
His only conviction and vision is to socialism. No thanks.
The Architect | 7/25/2006, 9:36 am EST
Its not about SUVs, its about buildings and urban form. Unfortunately Al missed the number one action regular people can take: Get a home energy audit, then mend those holes in your wallet (attic, walls, windows) where your money is dribbling out. Buildings use 50% of the energy. Go to architecture2030.org
Saskatchewan Northerner | 7/27/2006, 8:31 pm EST
Just stay in the United States and don’t come to Canada
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
mom ma.
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Whatever | 8/3/2006, 2:25 am EST
Why do people think that the “inventor” of the internet, the man who is invested in “BIG OIL” the all knowing global warming guru? And why is it that he isn’t considered the would be thief of the 2000 election? He knew that he would be able to exploit any voting irregularities to his advantage just in case he lost the election. The same voting irregularities that have been going on since the ice age. The same voting irregularities that he undoubtadly was aware of since he got involved in public office. All that is ok just as long as it benefits him. Al is just like Clinton: say and do anything for the appearance but to hell with the substance of the issue. If good ole’ Al were President the U.S. would still be turning the other cheek during any attacks against us. I’ll pray that Al never again holds an elected position.
Let Them Eat Cake | 8/16/2006, 1:16 am EST
“Bush did win the election 2000 with the help of Harris(No on the downhill slide) and Jeb-boy Bush who had the Repubes take hundreds of thousands Florida absentees “Home” with them-and that is legitimate in your world?
The five Bush-lap-dog-Spremes owes our country a huge apology but there is no erasing the devastation and deaths since Georgie took office(stole)….
Vallid ballots found in school yards in Florida the day after the election(A few hundred-thousand).
Harris and Jeb made it “their law” that no ballots would be counted that were found in back of schools, even though the dates and voters were legit….
Tell me how Bush “Won” that has got to be the biggest fairy tale anyone has heard in a long time….
Most of the Repubs I know, did not even vote for the lemon-it was cheating that allowed the beast to survive…..
And, now it’s a joke to anyone with a decent I.Q. of Bush’s two “wins”-wink, wink…
Check with some of the universities like Cornell or such-the facts are the facts-we simply started third-world elections via Bush and “friends”…
Some very despondent Supremes voted Bush in-O’Conner is now regretting her Bush lap dog decision.
Tim believes the lie…..
Let Them Eat Cake | 8/16/2006, 1:29 am EST
Asia-
What’s to be amazed about?
We have a group of greedy oil-hungry politicians on the right and millions of Americans paying a disgusting price for allowing third-world “elections” in America and a dictator who loves to start wars based on lies, panders to the wealthy and takes away good wages, health and retirement benefits from the majority of Americans and gives it to his favorite charity-Halliburton, Exxon, and other oil exec friends.
United, we do not stand-to accept the fraud would be to join the “Pod People” and become a Bush apologist-can’t think of lower pond scum than that.
Gore would have done a good job and most of the horrible events we have experienced were caused by inept leadership and corruption and theft over concern/awareness for the people of our country and the conditions they are living under….
“The Let Them Eat Cake Administration/Regime……
malan | 10/20/2006, 3:20 pm EST
Al Gore is going to be the Democratic party’s best chance at winning (again) in ‘08. He is intellectually far and above other hopefuls, and he will keep the environment on the forefront. I’ve had the pleasure of attending a few of his seminars on global warming and community involvement, an this man’s the real thing. God help us if Hillary is the nominee – I can already see Jeb Bush taking the oath…
Dave R | 10/29/2006, 8:22 pm EST
We could stop rubishing the messenger and listen even if we don’t like the message.
One way to reduce carbon emissions is to stop ploughing for our crops. Instead take up No-Tillage. Saves fuel at planting,stops carbon emissions from the soil as at ploughing,and with 100%previous crop residue retention then carbon is absorbed into the soil-just like growing trees.The technology exists now.
Anonymous | 11/23/2006, 3:40 pm EST
Hi everyone, believers and non. I found it odd that nobody mentioned the fact that this generation is the one that “broke” the sky!?! In appx. a hundred years we put a hole in something thats been around for millions, hmmmmm? Does that not seem like a problem to anyone else, seems like a BIG one to me!! And how’d it happen?! CARS AND FACTORIES BURNING GAS AND COAL, that’s how! I know we can do Something to slow or stop the problem, along with better emissions! And yes, getting Bush outta office is one of em!! HE SUCKS!!!! What has he done, that’s positive, for this or any other country?!? Nothin I can think of!! I’m embarrasssed he’s our pres.! He has trouble READING speeches for heavens sake!!! We’ve got to STOP the MADDNESS and focus on the big picture, the future of the world!!! I don’t want my kids and grandkids being made to live like the Jetsons! Maybe whoever wrote that cartoon could see into the future or something, and it’s kinda cool, but not what I want for my kids!! I want them to be able to go to Yellowstone and other parks and/or lakes, rivers and the ocean, and be able to breathe fresh air and go for a swim! And not hafta worry about sunblock cause they hafta step outside for a minute or two! Most Americans are a selfish lot and need to think about someone besides themselves and their pocketbooks and how FAT they can get em!! It’s All about the money though, isn’t it?!
Nicolle S. | 12/18/2006, 12:03 pm EST
How can anyone in their right mind look at these pictures and the evidence and deny that they need to stop driving and consuming so much?!?
Dr. Bob | 12/19/2006, 4:20 pm EST
As my calculations are correct there will be no more oil in about 20 years
Peter Brennan | 12/25/2006, 8:27 pm EST
Global Warming–heard lots of it. Maybe were in the transition of and ice age. Maybe the earth will heal itself when the majority of the causes are under a mile of ice. Study where we are in the relation to ice ages–Theres got to be a gradual warming and cooling period. Also, the continent is still rising from the weight of ice from the last ice age-is this a possible reason for Great Lakes level lowering. i’m not sure where to stand with “Global Warming” until all questions are answered.
Mike | 1/9/2007, 10:30 am EST
I do not believe those photos as far as I can throw your fat mom.
Carlos | 2/1/2007, 2:17 am EST
Absolutly! Voted for him twice already. This time I’ll volunteer, fundraise and proselytise! He’s been a solid, steadfast, visionary democrat since his days in the Senate.
It’s simple! See the world now, when Bush started with the largets surplus in US history. Now he’s running the greatest deficit in US history. He began with the good will of the world and the Middle-East that was increasingly stabilizing.
Now picture where we’d be if the Supreme Court hadn’t disregarded the separation of powers in 2004 and the votes had been counted. Betcha that “lock-box” doesn’t sound like such a bad idea anymore, huh?
Carlos | 2/1/2007, 2:20 am EST
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Steve S. | 2/16/2007, 11:51 am EST
Maybe Nostradamus was right on, the facts are there and ignoring them is truly our down fall. Global Warming is all around us, people are the only ones that can reverse this problem that we have created. As far as pointing blame that will not solve this problem. We as humans have to change our ways voluntarily or will be forced to change and that will not be pretty. The study of weather is in its infancy, approxamitely 140 years of documentation, but in the last 25years we are able to see more, and predict more accurately. Danial is not a river in Africa. Maybe the only way some people will change is when there life style is forced to change. This planet is a living thing and is constantly changing, nature has a way of adapting and overcoming. It may take a hurricane in Washington for the politicians to change there views. Most humans believe it can’t happen to ME, but when things start effecting our daily lives maybe we will wake up and smell the coffee. God Speed Al Gore
John E.D.P. Malin | 4/2/2007, 8:40 pm EST
A simple review of the extraordinary scientific scholarship available elucidating the perils of Planet Earth, renders naive any attempt to debunk global climate change.
Pay attention to the Cassini spacecraft hovering around the Saturnian satellites.
what | 5/22/2007, 6:05 pm EST
How could any reasonable person say the debate is over? How could anyone say for certain that warming isn’t a natural occurrence – were they around thousands of years ago to see the entire cycle unfold? And does anyone really think that changing a lightbulb will solve the problem or isn’t it really about the naive notion of stopping all industrial activity and global trade?
Jonathan Graham | 5/31/2007, 6:10 pm EST
Al Gore should of bin president then the world would be a diffrent place…
A BETTER PLACE
Jonathan Graham | 5/31/2007, 6:10 pm EST
Al Gore should of bin president then the world would be a diffrent place…
A BETTER PLACE …
Emily F | 7/5/2007, 11:37 pm EST
Anyone who says there still IS a debate is entirely ignorant. You CANNOT argue with science anymore. First of all, the evidence is there. Ancient landmarks are disappearing because of it. The charts go up slowly until they hit our generation, then they SHOOT up. There’s no ignoring that. It’s time for people to stop putting themselves in denial so they don’t have to feel guilty every time they climb into their Escalades and Range Rovers.
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Cello | 11/5/2007, 10:10 pm EST
The “after” photos look better. More usable land. Why is everyone complaining. This is a GOOD thing.
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Name of the system
Place of registration
Company format
Place of domain registration
E-gold
Isle of Nevis , Lesser Antilles
Offshore
Melbourne, FL,US
E-bullion
Panama
Offshore
CAMARILLO, CA,US
Neteller
Isle of Man, British Isles
Offshore
Herndon, VA, US
Pecunix
Panama
Offshore
Toronto, CA
GoldMoney
St. Helier, Channel Islands
Offshore
Douglas, Isle of Man,
GB
NetPay
Panama
Offshore
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V-Money
Seychelles
Offshore
Panama
ePassporte
Curacao
Offshore
Yarmouth, NS,
CA
Liberty Reserve
Costa Rica
Offshore
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WebMoney
Belize
Offshore
Russia
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