The latest episode of the Rolling Stone Music Now podcast is now available. Listen and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes, Spotify or check it out below.
The National's Matt Berninger and Bryan Devendorf join host Brian Hiatt to go deep on the making of their new album, Sleep Well Beast. They explain how weed, Donald Trump, Karl Rove inspired some of the songs, and why "rock n' roll in general is on its way out."
Listen and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes or Spotify and tune in Fridays at 1 p.m. ET to hear the show live on Sirius XM's Volume Channel.