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Box-Office Shootout: "Public Enemies" vs Robots and Dinos—Which One Is Worth Talking About?

July 6, 2009 11:12 AM

I don't know which news is worse: That the box-office crown for the five-day July 4th holiday weekend was won by an inferior animated film, Ice Age 3: Dawn of the Dinosaurs, with $67.5 million in the till. Or that an inferior robot film, Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen, which took in $65 million from Wednesday to Sunday, is now the highest-grossing movie of the year so far, with $293 million collected in just a dozen days. Since Trans 2 isn't slowing down, Michael Bay's attempt to kill all that's human in cinema looks like the machine that will define popular film taste in the year 2009. Talk about a tacky time capsule.

I prefer to focus on better news: The continued success of UP ($265 million so far) — come on Pixar, bite Bay on the ass. The impressive performance of Kathryn Bigelow's brilliant Hurt Locker in limited release. And the way Michael Mann's Public Enemies refuses to be written off as an art film geared to the snob set. Starring a superb Johnny Depp as gangster John Dillinger, Public Enemies took in a sturdy $41 million in its first five days. That means a lot of you out there shelled out the cash and saw it. Here's a thoughtful letter I received that reflects problems I'm hearing about the movie:

You are one of my favorite critics, but i just don't understand what you saw in Public Enemies. Sure, Johnny Depp was great in his portrayal of Dillinger, and i also agree that Michael Mann is a better director than Michael Bay, BUT that is not enough to make an above-average movie. The main problem was that there was too much going on in the plot. I wasn't sure whether it was a story about DIllinger robbing banks or if it was about his love for the coat check girl or if it was about his popularity with the people or if it was about the FBI becoming more advanced and so on. I think that if they focused on just one of these elements it would have been a much better film.

Solid points are being made in this letter. Michael Mann has rarely been content to tell one story. My argument is that the size of Mann's ambition is well worth the challenge of following his plot threads, including a romance with a woman of mixed race (Marion Cotillard) who is as much an outsider as Dillinger. Mann has always been concerned with the individual up against a society that means to co-opt and tame him. That also goes for Melvin Purvis (Christian Bale), the FBI man who hunted him down. The movie needs to show us Dillinger battling the forces of organized crime and Purvis fighting FBI methods that extend to torture.

So I ask you: how did Public Enemies strike you as a movie? Did the film's perceived flaws overwhelm its virtues? Do you think Depp and Cotillard had genuine chemistry or was their love story a distraction without purpose? Did the handheld camera come off as innovative or off-putting? And the ultimate question: Would you recommend Public Enemies to your friends or tell them to skip it?


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Lettrek | July 12, 2009 7:38 PM

I have to agree with Robert. The handycam thing did a diservice to Public Enemies. The same goes for the close-ups. In fact, it seems that every scene is filmed in close-ups. It made the whole thing looks presumptuous The actors were excellent. I really enjoyed certain parts of the movie, while hating others parts.

Robert | July 12, 2009 11:47 AM

The cinematography looked terrible. Shooting film would have been the proper choice to make. This looked like someone shot it on a handicam, which is inappropriate for this genre. As my wife said, it looked like something off of A and E. The film itself isn't bad, but technically, the way it was made, was inappropriate.

D-town will rise. | July 11, 2009 10:43 PM

Marion Cotillard's accent really, really bothered me. Being from the midwest I found it completely distracting and it really took me out of the movie. I always watch all of the credits at the end of a movie and when it came to "Ms. Cotillard's dialect coach" there was audible laughter in the theater (and not just from me).

Overall, it was an okay movie but I have seen much better this year including Up, Moon, and Away We Go to name a few...

PE | July 11, 2009 1:50 PM

Public enemies is a great movie. People must really be dumbing down not to see this.

JohnL | July 11, 2009 9:41 AM

I guess I'm in the minority here but I really liked Public Enemies. It was beautifully shot in the original locations. The clothes, cars, and guns were all spot-on, and I thought the performances were, by and large, very good. The hand-held camera shots didn't bother me. Maybe I need to be more critical but I go to the movies to be entertained, period, and PE entertained me. I've already recommended it to friends and family and I'll buy the DVD when it comes out.

Paul | July 10, 2009 8:40 PM

I wouldn't recommend this film to my worst enemy. It was so lackluster and plodding along that I fell asleep woke up again, fell asleep woke up again, fell asleep woke up again, looked at my watch and realized there was still an hour of movie still to play. There's no appeal whatsoever to the story. It makes me wonder what drugged out state the movie critics were in when they praised this as a hit with Oscar potential. Wishing that a movie was Oscar worthy and saying that it is are two different animals. No wonder the box office results often differ from critiques. Movie ctitcs have their own agenda and you can't put any trust into what comes out of their mouths.

Chris Price | July 9, 2009 11:07 PM

It was one of the best looking films I've seen in a while, and easily the best looking film shot on handheld DV ever. Apart from the eye candy, though, the film lacked in almost every other department. No one can argue that Michael Mann doesn't know how to stage a bank robbery, but the argument can certainly be made that he's not always a capable director of romantic heat and chemistry (especially recently with this film and Miami Vice). That ultimately is the fatal flaw that spoils the whole thing. I understand that the story of John and Billie has to be told or at least thrown in there, but we could have gotten a much more compelling argument for why these two people are interested in each other aside from an initial sexual attraction. Their relationship merely sits there, for seemingly no reason at all.

Honestly, that's a problem all across the board. Where is the motivation behind all this running around, looting, fucking, and shooting? Only Depp and Bale hint at something beyond your everyday Hallmark biopic acting. Most other characters in this movie couldn't be called anything but types. It sure looked good though.

Zac | July 8, 2009 5:03 PM

To tell you how good this movie really is, well, I was falling asleep thirty minutes into the film. I love movies and am no snob but this movie flat out sucked. None of the characters gave you anything to care about them. Johnny Depp and the coat check girl make love with clothes on. I want to at least see some skin.The ending was flat, I was actually so ready for Dillinger to be killed in this movie but he kept on and on. Movie is a waste of time.

Matt | July 8, 2009 11:30 AM

It was a good movie. The only thing I would say negatively is that it reminded me of another Depp movie that was good, but went in a direction I don't agree with. He plays and the movie portrays Dillinger as if he's a good guy, just like his character in "Blow". They are criminals. Dillinger may have had Robin Hood qualities, but he was still a criminal. In my opinion, a great movie wouldn't glorify it or even vilify it.It woudl go the Scorcese route, and have you watch the movie objectively, instead of choosing a side for you from the beginning.

COOP | July 8, 2009 10:21 AM

GOOD MOVIE...DEPP WAS GREAT LIKE ALWAYS...WHOEVER THINKS DEPP IS NOT A GOOD ACTOR NEEDS TO NEVER WATCH MOVIES AGAIN...EVERY1 WANTS THESE OUTTA CONTROL THINGS TO HAPPEN IN MOVIES ALL THE TIME BUT REMEMBER IT WAS THE 1930'S NOT ALL THAT MUCH HAPPENED..PERSONALITIES WERE DIFFERENT BACK THEN AND IF YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH 99 PERCENT OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THE MOVIES WAS REAL AND USING THE REAL LOCATIONS WAS GENIUS BY MICHAEL MANN

get real | July 8, 2009 3:46 AM

Very good but not great.

I did not like the "romantic" score during the love story. Cheesy. I felt this was really the only "bad" choice...

Some of the characters kind of just came into the story and then left... which is realistic, but sort of unsatisfying in terms of tying everything up story-wise. Some of the artistic decisions to move the sequence of events around was a little off-putting, but understandable. We could probably use a 10 or 12 hours mini-series to really tell all the stories.

I really liked everything else. The sound, the picture, the settings, it was all great. It is a movie that shows a lot, but does not tell you much, so if you are not paying attention, you will miss out. I love being a little more engaged by the film. I an interested to watch this with the director's commentary to learn more about what he was trying to say/show...

Travers mentions how this film critiques "how Hollywood romanticizes gangster life in contrast to the bruising reality", which is right on. It was really interesting to keep this in mind while watching the film.

Handheld was fine. If this is distracting to you, you should probably just stop seeing movies. It has become such a part of modern films and does not seem to be going anywhere. I am sick of reading critiques where someone write off a movie because of the handheld camera... get over it already!

Also, if you can't enjoy a movie because of a certain actor, just keep your opinion to yourself... If you think Depp stinks, saying that the movie stinks because of Depp is not insightful, nor is it a helpful critique. And why even watch a movie featuring an actor you can't enjoy?

Anyway, I would tell folks to see it. It is not great, but it is very good, one of the best I have seen lately for sure.

Jordan | July 7, 2009 9:53 PM

I think all of you are being way too generous on this movie. This is easily the worst film so far this year. And, much of that has to do with the most overrated, worst actor today, Johnny Depp. The guy has no range whatsoever, if you really look back at his filmography (which has to be the worst movie record of any actor in history, with just one awful movie after another=Charlie & the Chocolate Factory (ruined a great character and original movie); the Pirates movies (arguably the worst movie franchise ever); Fear & Loathing (one of the worst movies of all time); I could go on and on). Public Enemies is just another horrible movie of his; the blame should be placed solely on him.

batlantern_87 aka Travis | July 7, 2009 9:11 PM

First off why would you even go to a movie by Mann unless you wanted to see a couple different things going on. Look at the insider it gave a couple great stories about each character and it was completely engrossing. Then you have Heat which is just a fantastic movie where each lead character has flaws and things you love. Public Enemies is no different. It is a moving force of a movie that will allow nothing to stop it until it is ready to say its finished. If anything Mr. Travers i feel you didn't rate it high enough. Other than Star Trek it is the only movie i could say i want to see more than once. By the way Pete your a genius!

Jodi | July 7, 2009 6:34 PM

I was very much looking forward to this movie, and was disappointed. I thought the acting was amazing, but the story or the editing seemed lazy. Also - did anyone else feel like part of the dialogue track was too soft? It wasn't a sound issue with the theatre I was in, it was the film. I could hardly hear some of the critical dialogue, and so it was hard to feel like I wasn't missing something all crucial all of the time. Also, historical inaccuracies bug me - Babyface dies before Dillinger in the movie; why? Oh and I think it was a LAZY way to conclude the character development of Dillinger by having Depp watch a movie (yes I know that WAS historically accurate, but why was this scene SO long? Too bad, because I really wanted to like this movie.

Loved it | July 7, 2009 6:14 PM

I enjoyed Public Enemies very much, and recommended it to all friends, who did not share the same amount of enjoyment. Johnny Depp's acting was excellent, and I thought the love story definitely had a place within the movie, it helped show more of Dillenger's humanistic side. The action was awesome, I liked everything about this film.

It was ok | July 7, 2009 5:52 PM

It was an ok movie, but I had more fun with Transformers. I felt this drug on comapaired to TF2

Average movie | July 7, 2009 5:32 PM

It had all the makings of a good film, but was average. I was very dissappointed with the film and Traver's review.

mb | July 7, 2009 4:50 PM

There's much to like about the movie. Depp does a great job as does Cotilliard considering what they have to work with. My main problem is with the script: there were no interesting characters besides Dillenger and Frenchette. Purvis is not interesting at all. Was he conflicted about the methods he used? At the end of the film, we learn that he kills himself in 1960...does that relate to the Dillinger case?

The criminals aren't much better developed, can you name one member of Dillenger's gang? One good scene or line of dialogue they had?

In Mann's movie "Heat", the minor characters on both sides of the law are better defined, you care about Val Kilmer or Pacino's cop squad--so it matters when they live or die.
In Public Enemies, because of the bland script, most of the actors' talents are wasted...I think the movie is worth seeing, but it's not up to Mann's usual standards...

Vic | July 7, 2009 4:36 PM

I really wanted to like this film. But I felt the "naturalism" of the cinematography was really detrimental on the big screen. It just looked clumsy, and I have a strange feeling it might work better on a television.

As for the writing -- Not terribly impressed. As others have said, it seemed to lack a point of view. As always, Depp was great. Not so much the ancillary actors-- it was hard to keep his associates straight, they were so interchangeable.

Daniel | July 7, 2009 3:15 PM

I really enjoyed this movie. That being said, I felt that there were parts of the movie that looked cheaply done, which is unfortunate since most of the movie was beautifully shot. I found the handheld HD shots to be very obvious and distracting. As far as the story itself goes, I think it offered little in the way of explaining Dillinger's motivations, Dillinger the man type material. I felt Christian Bale was a bit miscast, there is a difference between subtlety and simply cold-faced stares.

One brilliant shot that stood out in my mind is when Dillinger looks into the eyes of his picture into the police station, I think referencing his conversation with Purvis earlier. If that was intentional it was really quite something.

Peter Travers Prime | July 7, 2009 2:19 PM

I am going to tell it rather plain and simple. I had super high expectations for Public Enemies, it was my number one movie of the summer and of the year behind Shutter Island. First off lets start off with the God awful cinematography. Yes, I am going to talk about that. I respect Michael Mann as a filmmaker but he used his HD camera crap instead of basic film. Some new style that he should let die. It played better in Collateral. A lot of movement and following people around. Almost all close-ups from the shoulder up. Back that thing out and give me a wide shot, geez. This movie had the potential to be great and cinematic but it fell short. Johnny Dillinger was a huge icon and they focused more on the romantic side of him than the ballsy gangster that he was. Dillinger was creative and clever. Johnny Depp brought in his weirdness and suaveness. It's different to see Depp not wearing eye liner and all that crap but he is a great actor but I do think Depp was the right choice for Dillinger, but the direction the story was taken in did not portray that role as it should have. Yes, he was a very romantic, idealized, outside the law, hero for common people in that era, but he was also a hardened criminal who went to any lengths to avoid capture--in other words, needs better action sequences and less romantic story line. Not a huge disappointment, but could've been better. Christian Bale didn't do his deep whisper-batman-horse like-voice. He actually had an accent but I didn't find him very believable. Bale's portrayal of Melvin Pervis was overacted and not well done in general. The bank robbery scenes are not exciting like bank robbery scenes should be. The car chases are not thrilling. The movie was paced like The Godfather and there wasn't enough to the characters to actually care about them. With a movie that's two and a half hours you would think, yeah, no problem, it has it locked down, but no. The movie started off great and almost took flight but it just kind of hovered there. Some of the best scenes where vaguely similar to The Godfather including one of the best shoot out scenes at a house in the woods. The best scene for me that really established Dillinger was when he strolled into a police station, into the Dillinger Division office, and asked the cops for the score of the baseball game. He was public enemy number one and he strolls in? That man had some balls. He escaped from prison by carving a gun out of table leg; they didn't do a good job of showing that. Stephen Graham as Baby Face Nelson, I found the most interesting but he wasn't in it long enough to really care. Most of the characters felt flat besides Marion Cotillard. It had a lot of problems but it's an okay movie. I think Peter Travers wanted to love it but just felt some kind of sympathy because, come on it's a Michael Mann film with Johnny Depp in a gangster movie. Even the best flounder. I would say rent it but there is a lot of crap out like Transformers 2. Seek out (500) Days of Summer, The Hurt Locker, and Away We Go.

noorin | July 7, 2009 2:18 PM

I am a hige Johnny Depp fan and his portrayal as Dillinger was fantastic. The film was brilliant, the storyline worked. I was a bit apprehensive about the chemistry between Johnny and Depp and Marion, however it worked. It may me cry, smile, laugh, but most of all it let me see the 'other side' of Dillinger. I heard all the horror stories, but god, Johnny Depp can make bank robbers symapthetic. I would recommend it to anyone and everyone. The camera work was excellent and bought a sense of realism to the story, as part of the audience it kept me engaged, like I was actually there. Overall Public Enemies: 10/10. Johnny Depp.......well he is just the BEST!

BW | July 7, 2009 1:56 PM

And why is everyone bitching about the fact it was filmed in HD? It enhances the darks so the night shots (Little Bohemia shoot-out) could be more naturally lit and not "movie-lighting"... Plus, to me it added to the "fly on the wall" atmosphere and reality that Mann was trying to incorporate. It's as if we are dropped in time at the moment these events are happening... The viewer feel like he is along for the ride and witnessing the events in person.

BW | July 7, 2009 1:48 PM

Loved it. It's almost as if it was made for me. Favorite actors, one of my favorite directors. Cinematography, music, awesome period deatail, it was all there. I think this movie will be more revered after some time passes. Just like Heat is now regarded as a crime classic. At the time it was released it wasn't viewed that way.

Julie | July 7, 2009 1:41 PM

This was the only movie I was looking forward to this year because of Depp and, while it is an extremely different-looking movie, I liked it the first time and loved it the next 2 times! Great music, wonderful performances by the entire cast, explosive shootout, stunning ending. All ages of people are seeing this, and the ones in my theater seemed to like it as well. On a shallow note: Wouldn't have minded seeing a little more skin from Depp & Cotillard, but I guess they're too classy for that!

andy | July 7, 2009 1:28 PM

I thought the movie was well above average, because I didnt feel like I had wasted $12.50 to see it (which is how I felt while walking out of Transformers 2). Obviously it won't go down as one of the "great" gangster movies of all time, but it surely beats out all other major films in the multiplex as of now.

DamaskinosWasRight | July 7, 2009 10:57 AM

The purpose of Public Enemies was not to make great buckets of money but to adjust Depp's image.

Video audiences subconsciously assume that the role an actor portrays is somehow an actual attribute of the actor.

Jennifer is the nice girl next door. Angelina is the crazy gun chick. Etcetera. Quite foolish really.

Depp, having played several flaky people, Sparrow, Chocolate Factory owner and now playing the Hatter needed a serious dangerous role to balance out the suggestible audience's perception of his persona.

Task accomplished.

There was never a real chance of this picture losing money since it was cheap to produce, had big names and lots of violence - to continue the fine American tradition of gathering your family around the television and watching a few good killings.

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Flava Dave | July 7, 2009 10:19 AM

I'll admit, I left the theater a little underwhelmed... BUT, if this movie failed to thrill it's only an indication of the desensitization that's occurred because of garbage like transformers. Public Enemies has outstanding performances, great action sequences that you can believe... and most importantly, if you're willing to turn your brain on, it might say something to you. It's classic movie making, and it's juxtaposition with transformers is an inadvertant reminder that there is a great divide in the public between those who value quality of storytelling over the quality of technical achievement. Travers, and a lot of us are realizing that this is a great talking point to discuss flash vs. substance and lament the fact that there are fewer of us on the side of substance.

Ron | July 7, 2009 6:15 AM

Everyone I know who has seen the movie really enjoyed it.

all summer movies suck the end | July 7, 2009 3:19 AM

I was looking forward to Public Enemies as the one good film of the summer and I was incredibly disappointed. The lack of character development made the film unwatchable. The action sequences were repetitive. The use of handheld cameras made the film seem like a 1930s version of cops. It was overall a huge and utter disappointment.

CalGal | July 7, 2009 2:34 AM

I loved this film and found the different "stories" just added to my enjoyment. It was a tragic love story of 2 outsiders, it was an insight into the fledgling development of the FBI(thanks to Hoover's distaste of Dillinger becoming a folk hero to the public) and it was just amazing the "true" bits that many people I spoke with were surprised were not "made up". Even though there was some "dramatic license" in parts, this wasn't meant to be a documentary, so it didn't bother me. As for the hand held camera, even though it was jarring, it seemed to pull me into the action. I felt like I was in the scene in the shootouts and just loved the camera angles. Depp & the whole cast were excellent---so glad to have something this summer that's not the standard summer drivel.

Joey | July 7, 2009 1:15 AM

I agreed with Roger Ebert's assertion of Public Enemies. "This is a very good film...I'm trying to understand why it is not quite a great film." I expected a lot from Public Enemies. Even Christian Bale, who I HATE as an actor, did pretty well. To me, the story didn't open up enough. He was John Dillinger, he robbed banks, had a pretty girlfriend, and that was it. Depp's performance was absolutely something else, and the camera work was wonderful, a very technically impressive film. I expect it to be nominated for a few Oscars, and I enjoyed this movie more than Bonnie & Clyde, so I definitely think it needs to be remembered. But it didn't come anywhere near doing something as impressive as replacing The Godfather as a definitive crime film, which I honestly thought it would do. And as the comment above me says, the gunfight in the woods was incredible.

StiGuy | July 7, 2009 12:22 AM

You people are morons. If you knew even the slightest thing about filmaking, you should be impressed with the visual quality of this film. I am a professinal video producer working in television, and I must say Micheal Manns choice for shooting movies in HD is gutsy, but pure fuckin' genius. Loved Public Enemies just as much as any thing he has directed, and it was by far the best film I have seen all year. Loved it.

Soc | July 6, 2009 11:09 PM

I would give this movie a matenee, maybe the fact that this movie comes out the same time when wizards, dinos and robots are coming out may overshadow critic's so called "accurate censureship" on the movie that really describe it as too many plots. As far as I've seen, the movie had one plot throughout the entire movie. There was not at one point multiple plots. The movie traveled through Dillenger's life. And took the highlights of his life in steps at a time. It's not as if the movie had flash backs to the point where you didn't know what year it was. Depp had a great performance, not his best, and not actor in a leading role for the year. Christain Bail, however, had a phenomenal performance and may win actor in a supporting role, but as the unrelenting, egotistical critics say, "it's a stretch" Also, very well done cinematography.

wilko | July 6, 2009 10:46 PM

I was expecting big things from the combo of Mann/Depp/Bale and some promising subject matter but I was pretty disappointed. the film had a superficial quality that made it hard to engage with the characters or the story. Depp was disappointing but I think that was the character's shortcoming, not Depp's.
the shootouts were the highlights, so there wasnt too much else going on.

sigh | July 6, 2009 9:12 PM

Hey Kevin,

Read your history books. Dillinger did walk through the police department. The movie was historic (read the book) and beautifully casted. It was like a book who's ending I knew but didn't want to turn the last page. I highly recommend it!

mike | July 6, 2009 9:02 PM

Public Enemies is a definite rental I'm sorry to say. It's fine, it's not horrible, but it didn't get me excited. And it doesn't even deserve a mention next to Badlands or Bonnie & Clyde.

This is the best film of nobody involved. And Johnny Depp continues to be the greatest living actor who hasn't made a truly great movie. He's made some fine films to be sure. But you know the level of quality I'm talking about. What's his Streetcar Named Desire? Edward Scissorhands? What's his Godfather? Donnie Brasco? Come on.

The directing was lackluster. Think of the sparks that great directors bring to their films: Goodfellas, Pulp Fiction, The Insider... where was the spark here? It was all used up in the popping of the machine guns. Many scenes were lifeless--even the heists & prison breaks & fucking felt detached somehow. At the end when Dillinger's killed, did anyone in the audience really feel something there?

The dialogue was poor. What was up with all the corny lines between Depp and Cotillard? This love story needed a rewrite badly. And why all the melodramatic orchestrations under their scenes together? I thought No Country For Old Men and There Will Be Blood made cheesey scores obsolete. Guess not, but they should have.

jpo2269 | July 6, 2009 8:47 PM

Was looking forward to seeing this movie and this weekend I was part of the $26 million this weekend. While not a bad movie, I felt the director spent too much of the movie dancing between this movie being a romantic movie and spending most of the time highlighting what a "bad@$$" Dellinger was. In the end, I felt this movie missed on both accounts. A decent movie, but nothing I would recommend.

Scarface | July 6, 2009 8:20 PM

I just saw "Public Enemies" yeterday and did not find myself disapointed by it, in fact I found it to be the best movie so far this year. And yes I loved it! I thought Marion Cotillard and Johnny Depp had good chemistry but I was disapointed that the movie didn't spend more time on their relationship. That said, I think that it made the time they had together all the more special. I didn't find the camera work very distracting and yes, I WOULD RECOMMEND "Public Enemies" TO MY FRIENDS.

Cindy | July 6, 2009 7:56 PM

I have been following the progress of this movie since last year, so needless to say, my anticipation was way up there. I wasn't disappointed and I loved the movie. I'm from Indiana so I didn't need to know much about Dillinger to begin with and I can't, therefore, comment on whether there was enough character development. When Depp hit the screen we Hoosiers already knew what he was all about. Depp and Cotillard had beautiful chemistry and sometimes just a look from Depp said it all.
I went with 8 other people, youngest age was 42 - oldest age was 79. Everyone thought Public Enemies was well written, superbly acted and it lived up to their expectations. Would I recommend it? Absolutely...that's the first thing I did when got to the office today!

Michael | July 6, 2009 7:53 PM

It was a good movie. The handheld camera became frustrating at times but wasn't terrible. Christian Bale's role was in a strange state in that it was built up to be a major role when it didn't have to be so I think they should have focused more on Dillinger and let Purvis play a smaller role. It was a slight let down but it was still one of the best of this year so far (and a nice change of pace from the awful mess that was Transformers 2).

JW | July 6, 2009 7:49 PM

I will admit that I am a huge Michael Mann fan, I even like Miami Vice, so that might sway my opinions.

But I feel as if there is so much unwarranted criticism for this movie. I was a little shocked at some of the negative reviews.

People seem to want in your face, very overt character development and backstory. "I am John Dillinger I rob banks because of A, B and C." I'm so glad it wasn't like that. That's not how people are. I feel like we have lost our taste for subtlety. Everything you need to know about Depp and Bale's characters is said in their faces and in the moments of silence.
The look on Bale's face after he kills Pretty Boy Floyd really tells us so much about him.
Same with Depp's face when he is at Diner with Billie and when he is at the movie right at the end.

The HD camera work I thought was awesome, but thats just me. Some people will never like the way digital looks and that is fine. I think they both have their place. And I think it worked surprisingly well here.

All in all I loved it and I can't wait to see it again. But hey that's just my opinion.

hdbngr63 | July 6, 2009 7:33 PM

It would've been more interesting if it was more personal between Bale's Melvin Purvis and Depp's Dillinger. However, that would be Hollywoodizing it, so I respect Mann for staying true to history. I thought it was a really good movie.Exciting, compelling and well-acted. I can admit it wasn't Mann's finest hour, but an improvement over his last film (Miami Vice). His most popular films (Heat, Collateral) usually follow more than one plot thread, so it wasn't really that off-putting.

GingerJim | July 6, 2009 7:18 PM

The camera work is like the King's New Clothes - it IS shoddy and distracting in its arty(?) shakiness - I think the problem is that it is all edited on a laptop and the shaking would not seem so bad but it IS when blown up on the big screen. The picture generally has the look of a cheap History Channel bio. Nobody I have seen has yet commented on Cotillard's French accent coming through when she is beaten up. Was looking forward to this film and was VERY disapointed - will not be surprised if its box office is well off next weekend.

chicago fella | July 6, 2009 7:01 PM

actually, history books say that dillinger did stroll through the offices of the Chicago police dept's dillinger task force.

transforming into nonsense | July 6, 2009 6:07 PM

public enemies was fun, but it didn't seem like it had anything to say. I wanted depp to develop into a figure that the audience is supposed to empathize/root for/root against, but I didn't really care. If this had been a movie about Christian Bale and Billy Crudup battling over what the point of catching dillinger was, then I'd have nothing but nice things to say about it. But in the end, it seems liek the characters, much like the viewer, do not care about what happens to dillinger.

Cole | July 6, 2009 5:08 PM

I loved the movie, and granted, I am a huge fan of Michael Mann, but it is refreshing to see a big budget movie with some actual brains. For me, it was one of those movies that will have to take multiple viewings to fully appreciate. Depp was terrific and deserves an oscar nom. Even though the role wasnt a showy type of performance, Bale was great as well. Cotillard and Crudup also gave really good supporting performances.

Liz | July 6, 2009 3:45 PM

I loved this film. This is one of the first movies I've seen in a really long time where a director allowed silences to play a key role. No music telling the audience what to expect or feel, no syrupy dialogue and no manipulative tear jerking sequences. All the characters were regarded critically, and the violence wasn't glorified. Yes, I really enjoyed the love story. She wasn't just a love interest in the film - she felt like a person. Depp was intense and Bale delivers the kind of stillness that is both haunting and revealing. I wish studios would finance more intelligent mainstream films.

Kevin the Robot | July 6, 2009 3:27 PM

I agree with the guy who wrote the letter. It was just an OK movie. I can see why a film critic who has to see every movie out there would love it, because its very stylistic and challenging.

I thought the scene where Dillinger walks into the Police Station's Dillinger section was ridiculous. It took me out of the movie because it was so obvious that it never happened.

transformers 2 sucked | July 6, 2009 3:26 PM

I found the handheld camera to work well only during the action sequences. Otherwise, it was just a HUGE distraction. I felt that Christian Bale had very little to do, even if he did do a fine performance. The movie's biggest problem was character development. I would probably recommend this to friends regardless. Mainly because of that kick-ass gun fight in the woods.

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