The Dark Knight shattered records over the weekend. The second installment in director Christopher Nolan's Batman series grossed $158.3 million, which flew past Spider-Man 3, the previous (and undeserved) gold standard with $151.1 million. The Dark Knight also hit the sales record books for single-day ($66.4 million), midnight screening ($18.5 million) and IMAX debut ($6.2 million). I couldn't be happier. It's satisfying when a comic-book movie this compelling and complex touches a universal chord. Success, as always, also inspires mucho bitching. Parents fear that the PG-13 film is too dark for their little ones (duh?) and what with brutal scenes like the pencil in the forehead they wonder if it's really not a popcorn movie for the whole family (double duh?). And then there are questions actually worth the asking, such as:
Can The Dark Knight sustain its opening and go on to be the hit of the summer and the year? The top contenders so far are May openers, Iron Man and Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, which are both well past the $300 million mark. But hitting $400 million is harder these days when blockbusters open big and then fade quickly. For example, Spider-Man 3 raked in nearly half of its $336.5 million in total sales on its debut weekend. A sleeper such as WALL-E, a supreme example of Pixar animation skill, hasn't hit $200 million yet, but it's hanging in there week after week.
Does The Dark Knight deserve to wear the 2008 box-office crown? Most critics, including me, have praised the film. Now that you've had a chance to see it, what are your thoughts? How does Batman shape up against WALL-E and Iron Man (you can't be serious about Indy 4)?
What about the Heath Ledger factor? His performance as the Joker is award caliber. But would The Dark Knight have so stirred your interest or grossed nearly as much if Ledger had been alive at the time of its release? A macabre question, but a valid one.
What's the image from The Dark Knight you can't forget? For me, it's the Joker being interrogated and beaten at the police station. Ledger's eyes offer a mirror into a tortured soul.
Final Question: How high will the Bat fly? What will be the final gross The Dark Knight when it finally ends its run at the multiplex?

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stitch grimly | July 29, 2008 9:24 PM
The continuity bothered me a bit. The party scene that just ended (maybe the deleted scenes on DVD will reveal why the Joker didn't actually bother to keep looking for Dent.)
The cellphone 'sonar' imagery was imaginative but ridiculous.
There were too many complications with the plot that didn't go anywhere and seemed unnecessary (like the mobster tipping off the cops before the money burning scene - where were the cops?).
How the hell did Two Face get out of the hospital?
Batman's voice was terrible.. and why did he talk in that voice to Rachel when she knew who he was anyway?
Gordon's speech at the end was cheesy as fuck and his kids should have been MUCH more traumatised.
The scene where the Joker's going "come and get me" or whatever with the batbike and the end scene where he falls off the building and BM catches him were very reminiscent of the Jack Nicholson film (if you trade the bike for the batwing and if Ledger hadn't been saved).
BUT... why so serious?
This is the best film I've seen in years. Ledger was possibly the best movie character I've EVER seen. I was blown away. The scenes where they fall off buildings actually gave me vertigo and I didn't even see it at IMAX.
So other than the various things which have well and truly been covered to death now, this is a must see and hands down deserving of the highest gross.
Oh and my favourite bit was also where he mouths 'six'. I was actually imitating him in my seat!
And Two Face looked awesome!
The Dog Snacks At Noon | July 29, 2008 3:11 PM
Yeah, Ledger is good. Big Woop. Christian Bale deserves big credits to for this film though, as he does in every movie he has ever done. Easy as that.
tiffany | July 29, 2008 12:15 PM
what about the next movie it helps if all of the same people are in the movie......
J.C. | July 28, 2008 6:11 PM
So last week I left a post saying that there I didn't think Titanic's record was gonna be broken.
I'm looking like a dumbass right about now.
$314 million plus in 10 days...WHAT?!?!?!
That is ridiculously amazing.
And the fact that Shrek 2 hit $400 million in 43 days, could mean nothing to "The Dark Knight" It could hit $400 million by the end of this week, cause I'm confident that the new Mummy movie will not be No. 1.
Repeat goes (myself included) are seeing the movie again and word of mouth is helping the film out as well.
I know "The Dark Knight" will not his $600 million in two weeks if it keeps going at this pace, but then again...I was wrong last week when I said it wouldn't come close.
If you guys have NOT seen this movie yet, you are missing out on something special.
sergioulloaromano | July 27, 2008 10:45 PM
I thought it disappointed.
Its a movie only nerds would be interested in seeing. It was pedestrian,it had a pre-packaged feeling about it.
Ledgers performance was overrated.
I switched off around the halfway point; its not a movie you need to pay attention to.
The lowest point was the mandatory hostage situations near the climax.
Bad movie; only highlights are the special effects and caine and Eckharts performances, but even they are merely just good.
pg jenks | July 26, 2008 12:01 PM
I thought The Dark Knight was a very good movie. Ledger gave a great performance and I will be surprised if he doesn't get an oscar nomination for his work.
As far as box office grosses are concerned, if people can drive a shitty movie like Pirates of the Carribean 2 to over 400mil, then this one should do at least that much. Everyone I talk to about The Dark Knight say what a great movie it is, with that kind of word-of-mouth buzz around it, I have no doubt it'll be the years highest grossing flick.
Shawn | July 26, 2008 9:00 AM
Q: How do you describe 'Genius' in two words?
A1: The Joker
A2: Heath Ledger
A performance like none other, a movie rivetting, gripping and dark enough for you to knock on your folks' bedroom to sleep safe.....for one night only.
Peter | July 25, 2008 9:40 PM
I just saw the film yesterday. Ledger is amazing. I mean it's a film full of great and very good actors, but Ledger's performance is one for the ages. All-time great villian.
sixstringsdown | July 24, 2008 4:15 PM
The Dark Knight just plain DESERVES to be the highest grosser. I won't elaborate on Ledger's role, it's unnecessarily good. However, I'm pretty inclined to think that had he been alive for the release the outcome would have very much been the same. His death, I feel, was very much a peripheral thing, such as news reports surrounding Ledger's death seemed to always be aired separately from anything released about the film in general. Essentially, the Ledger ordeal became a media party in its own realm, the other details involving the film itself were somewhat sidetracked. Furthermore, the film is beyond amazing, word would have spread after the fist couple of hours and if the trailers didn't give you goosebumps than I'm not sure what will. As for nitpicking the minute technical details of this film (or any) I think it's a waste of time, energy, breath and the electricity you're using to write and submit such comments. It's a film, it's art, it's fictitious. If the Nolans wanted to shoot Batman and Dent running out of an exploding building without any defect then they would've covered Aaron Eckhart in gasoline, blown the building and told him to kiss his ass good-bye. If you're watching a movie that closely you either- A. Can't enjoy film
B. Know it's amazing and have to mentally exhaust yourself trying to pick out imperfections
or C. Liked the Schumaker films and if that's the case, God fucking help you.
The Dark Knight was brilliant, Ledger's status aside, I believe it can and should gross higher than any other film this year. It has far too much heart and vision not to.
Kevin | July 24, 2008 2:52 PM
and think...Spider-man's biggest problem is that he can't fuck his girlfriend..
Corrine | July 24, 2008 11:11 AM
I seriously think that this movie has been one of the bests to hit the box office in a long time. It has an excellent combination of the batman we all know and love and the same idea of him trying to catch the joker with a new twist. There are more elements of drama and many plot twists. Whenever you go to the movies you think, they won't kill the girl, she's the main character, next thing you know you're watching the warehouse explode that Rachel was held in. It had me entranced by the incredible acting, the action, and especially the story line. I have already gone to see this movie three times and I hope to go see it a couple more times before I can finally get my fill until it comes out on DVD. This movie was epic because it made you think, would you be a Bruce Wayne/Batman, and keep your faith in people and continue to be an hero, or would you fall like Harvey Dent/Two face and turn as evil as the men he put behind bars. It shakes you to the core because it makes you think about the question, is anyone still noble? In the end we see that people are more reliable than you think, but it makes you realize not everyone is the hero you think they are. Overall, this movie was outstanding and everyone should go see it.
? | July 24, 2008 6:33 AM
anyone else think two face's bad side was ridiculous and terribly fake looking? Maggie Gylenhaal jut didn't do it, she seemed hollow and not the high prize she portrayed, batman's voice is also way overdone, not like Jack's whole performance in the first one wasn't, but that was a comic book movie, this one followed a theme but has a much more real style, Ledger was the star for sure, wish I could see his career continue
Glen | July 24, 2008 6:28 AM
The Dark Knight is easyly the best film of the year. The Joker was out of this world. The pincle thing was a big surprise!! After the shock, ( I was one parent that took the kiddys to see it) I was rolling on the floor laughing! I think even if Heath was still alive it was have done just as well. Only because he took The Joker to another level that we have never seen or thought it could have been taken. He has my Oscar vote! I didn't see it on IMAX, with 3 kids with me that could get pricey. But I will see it again with a friend at the IMAX. And f.y.i., the kids did say it was scary for them. I didn't have any idea it would be that scary. (ex wife was not happy...) But I for one was totally blowen away by the film. No other comic book film has ever been made like this. Just as people were blowen away by Superman The Movie, this film is just that much more. And it sucks that Heath passed on, he was a great actor. No one will be able to fill his (Joker Laugh), if The Joker returns in another film. I was rooting for The Joker more than Batman. I just couldn't get enough of him. I kept wanting more and more of The Joker! I give this film an A. And I think it will keep going strong for at least a few more weeks.
Presuming Ed | July 24, 2008 2:18 AM
Hey folks, it's me again.
Apparently something I said struck a chord, because I seem to be the only one getting any responses.
But this isn't about me, it's about the Dark Knight.
As for the glass shard, I stand corrected.
I won't dignify the comment about Dent's immune system with a detailed response. (I'm just a janitor that works in a hospital, so what do I know?) Oh, and you don't shield yourself from an explosion with another human's body, you get blown up along with it. I was merely noting how it seemed that the Joker was the only person left in the precinct after the explosion. But this has gotten beyond ridiculous.
And to respond to the question why I saw the film twice, I just had obligations with different friends, just as you probably had obligations with your friends. (Note the correct usage of "your," John.)
I didn't say I hated the film. I didn't say it was a bad film. I just said it wasn't as good as everyone seems to think it is. In my opinion, of course.
There was one question of Travers I didn't answer previously, so I will at this time. If Ledger happened to still be alive, would my level of interest in the film be different? I can't say, because he's not. I planned on seeing this film long before he died.
David | July 24, 2008 1:02 AM
Also i cannot forget when we see Ledger's face without the makeup. That really shows that he is a human being in the movie not a make up wearing clown. To me it was a bit nostalgic. I dont know why but it was for me.
I think without Ledger's death it still would have been as big because even before he died everyone was saying that he did a fantastic job with the movie.
P.S. i recommend seeing it in IMAX. it is better and makes a difference.
Going back to will it continue to sell. Yes it will and the DVD will break records also i bet.
David | July 24, 2008 12:59 AM
Moment i CANNOT forget...
pencil disappearing trick. took me completely by suprise. after that scene my friend turned to me and just said "wow".
Edawg | July 23, 2008 9:57 PM
Someone mentioned earlier that The Joker was holding a knife as he exited the cell, even though he had been thouroughly searched. It was a piece of glass from when Bale smashed Ledger's face into the window.
Also, as the same person said, Dent has a great immune system. Well, he might, but it was also still the same day within the movie. He got disfigured that night, then the next night, he died. I've never had a cut that got infected the same day.
Anton | July 23, 2008 9:54 PM
The first time that i saw a Heath ledger's picture joker I was going crazy. I didn't know who the hell was Ledger, but i really liked the new look of the new joker. After watching the photo, I look the letters above and I knew so that Ledger had died. Then I watched the trailer, the few scenes of the joker were enough to know that Ledger did a good job. But as a summer movie, there were probabilities of a bad film. Last saturday I went to see it, it is dark, it's full of drama. But Ledger, he is the fire in that movie, it's original, natural... He made this movie a classic, and superate Jack Nicholson it's somethin that not everyone can do
Sasquatch | July 23, 2008 9:13 PM
While for the most part I do agree with "John's" Comments about "ED", I will politely point out that before you insult someone's intelligence, you should probably know the difference between "hole" and "whole". Great now I'm one of you self righteous morons.
P.S. Who the hell writes on a blog in text lingo? You're an idiot (Note the appropriate punctuation, really not that hard).
J.C. | July 23, 2008 9:06 PM
As of now, Iron Man is the highest grossing film of the year with nearly $315 million in the U.S.
The Dark Knight has already grossed more than half of that in three days, which is phenomenal.
However, the movies have become a staple of us looking for the next big thing.
With "Step Brothers" and "The X-Files" releasing this week, I won't be surprised if The Dark Knight does score a second week on top.
The New Mummy movie may take over when it's released on August 1.
By then we will have an idea of where "The Dark Knight" stands in beating "Iron Man" and "Indiana Jones", which is close behind in second.
It's going to depend on how much the movie makes in its second week.
I saw a comment from Gabe that said he might be pushing it by saying it could beat "Titanic".
Dude, that's a mountain that will probably never be moved.
Titanic ended up grossing $600 million!
Reason being, EVERY OTHER POTENTIAL BLOCKBUSTER RELEASED IN THE 14 WEEKS IT WAS AT NO.1 SUCKED! I do feel like "The Dark Knight" has what it takes to beat "Iron Man". We'll just have to wait and see...by the way "The Dark Knight" was FAN-Tastic!
John(again) | July 23, 2008 6:31 PM
and jus to comment on my own my fav joker scene was either when hes clappign for the commissioner in the cell or every second hes in the interrogation room. When the guy goes oh yeah and killed six of my friends he jus looks at him and mouths six to him i was histerical. If he doesnt win an award no1 should.
John | July 23, 2008 6:29 PM
I AM GOING TO RIP EDS COMMENT (BELOW) TO SHREDS READ HIS BEFORE MINE. I was just reading these and after reading Eds comment below i had to make my own. You seem like your intelligent but obviously not enough to make a proper statement. Maybe you should see the movie a third time because i saw it twice and understand fully. Read a little background and pay attention more before you comment on a movie. Now to rip your comments to shreds.
1. You said somehow batman appears in the interrogation room that was locked. Do you actually think that none of the cops or the commisioner knew he was in there? Hes friends with batman you moron he was being sarcastic when he said i have to go get coffee it was dark so that the joker couldnt see batman (who wears black) standing in the back of the room so that when the commissioner left batman would take over. Its blatantly obvious that the commissioner brought batman to the room thats why when he left he went to the two way mirror and watched the hole thing.
2. You said somehow he blows up the precinct. Did you not understand the hole cell phone thing? Thats how he blew it up and the cops didnt dissappear you moron THEY BLEW UP WITH THE ROOM AND THE JOKER HELD THE OTHER GUY IN FRONT OF HIM TO SHIELD HIMSELF FROM THE BLAST.
3. Once again my statement to pay attention stands. He wasnt holding a knife. He was holding a piece of glass that was on the floor where he was sitting in the interrogation room from when batman smashed his head into it.
4. AND WTF DOES HARVEY DENTS IMMUNE SYSTEM HAVE TO DO WITH A BURN. You never saw a fire survivor? Yes they go a little extreme with it but not that much because they show his face what a day or two after the accident happened?
Like i said go watch the movie a third time cause your obviously not intelligent enough to see it twice and comment.
jon m | July 23, 2008 1:42 PM
i believe the image that sticks in my head from the movie is when the joker escapes from mcu and is hanging half way out of the cop car, then the music cues down low. that scene is remarkable
Nathan | July 23, 2008 1:03 PM
My favorite part was the Al-Qaeda inspired hostage video the Joker made with the phoney Batman. Very realistic and creepy.
Gutterking | July 23, 2008 12:50 PM
"What makes you so different? I'm not the one wearing hockey pads."
With the Dark Knight on everyones lips, it's hard not to step back and ask yourself,Is this one of the best movies ever made. A very large amount on people, myself included, would agree that the Dark Knight is ten steps above any pre-existing movie to it's cataloge.
It is a factor that with Heath Ledgers death more people were interested in seeing the movie. But death asid he still played the roll of the Joker better then anyone else could have imagined. In one of his final interviews before his death, Ledger said "The Joker was the most fun I have ever had playing a roll, probably the most fun I will ever have (freaky huh?)
It does seem like a good amount of people are making his death the main reason to see this movie. If so that's your opinion, but there are countless other reason to see the Dark Knight. PERFECT Cast, PERFECT Director, PERFECT story, just PERFECT PERFECT PERFECT.
Kelley | July 23, 2008 12:36 PM
I think this movie was amazing! my favorite joker scene was the pencil trick and when he was leaving the hospital and trying to blow it up with the remote. I thought the whole movie was fantastic. I have never gone to see a movie twice in theaters but this one will be the first! its unforgettable.
basser | July 23, 2008 12:20 PM
All of the Joker scenes were memorable:
The Joker tag-teaming with one of his goons against Batman, kicking Batman in the chest with his shoe-knife.
The Joker hanging out of the window of the police car, complete with no sound and blazing, police lights.
The Joker doing the pencil trick - I think it went into one of the mobster's eyes.
The Joker driving the 18-wheeler, saying "Ha. Missed." And then Batman's cable yanking the truck high into the air, backwards, surprising the usually unsurprisable Joker.
The Joker in the nurse's outfit, clutching a clunky, almost toy-like remote control.
Ledger was terrific. He deserves an Oscar. Not because he's gone - it is very sad that he's no longer around for his family and friends - but because he stole the show onscreen in a film riddled with excellent actors and characters. It's the only time I've seen an actor steal (unintentionally) the thunder of Gary Oldman in a movie. Ever.
hahaha | July 23, 2008 10:41 AM
Presuming Ed why see it twice in less than a week if the film did not live up to the hype?
Amanda | July 23, 2008 8:05 AM
The most obviously but thankfully, only bad thing about the Batman films are his ladies.
Presuming Ed | July 23, 2008 5:38 AM
George Kennedy...Dragline
Chris Cooper...The Orchid Thief
Diane Keaton...Annie Hall
These are roles throughout film history that I see as being legendary. Acting performances that are so unforgettable they have become synonymous with the actor. I will come back to this.
First let me clear up a few things about the Dark Knight. I've seen the film twice. And no, the film does not deserve all the praise it has garnered. Yes, it was extremely bloated, with a bunch of this good and evil and choice nonsense. At times it reminded me of, dare I say, Matrix Reloaded, though it's certainly not a bad film. We all get it already, cops and robbers are really two aspects of the same being. Yes, there were far too many scenes/events that went unresolved or unexplained. Somehow the Batman appears in an interrogation room that was locked away and dark in the middle of a precinct. Somehow the Joker emerges from the interrogation room with a knife when he was most assuredly searched. Somehow the Joker blows up the precinct and every cop disappears leaving said Joker completely by himself. And boy, must Harvey Dent have one hell of an immune system. Nolan seems to try very hard to convince the viewer that this isn't a comic book movie, but relies almost too much on the fantasy. And yes, the Dark Knight is much too serious.
For me, the Prestige will remain my favorite Nolan film. I'm sure if I said I thought it was his best, most will disagree. I just think it obeyed its own set of principles much better than this film.
But back to Dragline. For me, this wasn't a film about the Batman. This was a film about the Joker. I say at any and all cost to my credibility that this is one of the great acting performances in film. My friends and family know me as a Jack Nicholson follower. I've watched him banging his steering wheel a hundred times. But on the matter of the Joker he takes a back seat. Truly the stuff of legends. A pillar of what it means to become the character. And this has nothing to do with Ledger dying a few months before the film was released. It has to do with how the viewer gravitates toward the Joker in every scene regardless of who is talking. Memorable scenes were a plenty involving the joker, but for me there were two that stood out above the others.
No. 1 was mentioned by another writer earlier, and it doesn't even have an image of the Joker to speak of. When the Joker is torturing the wannabe Batman and filming him with that hand-held and that goddamn rattling. He tells him to, "Look at me." The helpless man can't look. And then from nowhere, this demonic voice, "LOOK AT ME!" I can't get it out of my head and I feel as though I had something in common with the fake batman throughout the film. Small, very small, and terrified to look.
No. 2 occurred before that, I think. When the gang brought in the "dead" body of the Joker. And he pops up, "What about alive?" With a devilish grin. But the indelible moment comes a bit later. He starts talking about how he got "these scars." "My father was a drinker..." And then the words I don't know I'll ever forget, "WHY SO SERIOUS?!" Unforgettable.
If a film deserves to win the box office record this year, I would say it's Wall-E, but it probably won't, mostly due to American pride. If the Dark Knight does, I won't complain. But I won't contribute anymore money to that cause. Yes Ledger is something to marvel, but I've watched him burn the world twice and I already am losing daylight. I'll just pop in Cool Hand Luke and think about how it took forty years for another legend to be born.
joel | July 23, 2008 2:24 AM
When the Joker made the "pencil disappear" to kill one of the syndicate's goons...
where did it hit?
the forehead or one of his eyes?
i think one of his eyes...
so the pencil hit his brain...
thats why it killed him...
Tony | July 23, 2008 12:14 AM
My favorite joker moment was when he was dressed like a nurse waiting for the final explosion of the hospital, so damn crazy.
Very good movie, it deserve the palm as the better super hero movie adaption. Just go see it.
Warren | July 22, 2008 9:23 PM
This was an amazing movie. Not a moment wasted. Ledger. Just Brilliant. My two favorite scenes with the joker are when he gets out of the flipped semi and stumbles, firing off the machine gun and then guns down some poor sucker in a cadillac and after killing rachel and destroying harvey, his head outside of the police car. That moment was just chilling. I'd also like to say that the score was amazing, the single note of the violin/cello has just stuck with me for days. Masterpiece.
Sarah | July 22, 2008 9:11 PM
To answer your question :No. If heath Ledger were still alive the film would not have grossed as much as it did. The truth is that everybody wanted to see his last performance...because they were sad that he died. My mom went out and bought movies of his that she had never seen before because, even though she already liked him, she was more compelled to now because he's gone. She even watched Brokeback Mountain. They had THREE theaters open for the midnight showing i went to. Unprecedented. i've gone to several midnight showings of major films and this has never happened before.
The parents can shove it for all i care. Batman has always been a darker superhero. he's not Super Man for c rying out loud! He choses to be batman, superman/spiderman they were sort of forced into with the abliites they were born with/accidently bestowed upon. that gives him a different kind of perspective.
Gabe | July 22, 2008 8:26 PM
It will gross more than any other film. i'm may be pushing it, but could it beat Titanic? think about it...
my favorite seen was when Gary Oldman's character(can't catch the name) gets promoted in the jail and the Joker is clapping. i don't know why, but it haunts me
one last thing... next week we have Step Brothers and X-Files coming out(neither of which hold a candle to TDK). TDK could hang on to the top spot for one more week. there really isn't some super blockbuster movie left this summer. only hopefuls. i think TDK will make 50 Mil next week. then after that it will make 20 mil consistently and will end up with a pile of cash
amazing | July 22, 2008 8:15 PM
The Pencil to the head was the best villain scene since Darth Vader arrived in A New Hope,
I can't wait to see it again!!!!
Only one terrible scene: when Two Face easily takes the child from his mother's hands, Nolan clearly doesn't know how protective mothers are or he would've had him threaten killing the kid on the spot if she didn't let go, or else she never would have
OMG | July 22, 2008 7:56 PM
I am going to watch it!!!! I hope it's good !!!
Nick Bridwell, TX | July 22, 2008 7:39 PM
I think it is so obvious at this point that Aaron Eckhart really took on a comic book role that other than Tommy Lee Jones' 1997 performance showed no real cinematic fame and made it one that will really last in our heads for a while. While I appreciate Ledgers' Joker and believe it was fantastic, I am sure that Mr. Ledger would agree with the accolades for his onscreen partner Aaron Eckhart...it was just awesome seeing him freak out on that cop killer/escaped mental patient I"m not sure who that actor is but he did a great job playing crazy and working off of Dent's disdain....I wish that the other characters in the story would have been a little more freaked out about his face....bc it rocked....but I digress...watching Dent really go from idealist to a fractured ultimatum inducing psychopath was great the first time I saw the movie...and astonishing the second time I saw the movie... I am quite sure that upon the third viewing it will-If I can be eloquent-simply kick major ass. Caine's Alfred resonates as the real backbone and conscious for Wayne, and by destroying the letter shows that while Batman protects the city, even he has a guardian. I think they give the role of Alfred to people named Michael for a reason because Gough and Caine rock... Oldman got the one cuss word in the movie with the "God(*&" yelling at Two Face because it was the real coda of the film at that point. Oldman was awesome and it is nice to see him with screentime and an important role since the Burton/Schumaker movies left a great actor "Pat Hingle" in a barely supportive role and more of a comic relief. Bale did a fine job as Bruce Wayne and through assanine display of his fake persona furthered the rift between public perception of Bruce Wayne, his inner self, and ultimately at the end of the film the distanced perception of what Batman must be thought of. The ending makes since because now the criminal element must fear him, because he "has no rules" but in allowing peopel to believe that he has essentially both won because he can be more effective, and lost because The Joker knew this would happen. It is ultimately in Ledger's role as the joker that we finally see the world's best villain as something to rival Batman not only physically because he keeps him on the run and drained, but mentally because he plans every aspect despite his assertion that he does not plan, because all of the chaos around him is a result of his planning to unplan, which in itself is a contradiction but guess what that is part of the joke. Ledger is maniacal, and his small mannerisms and one liners make him humorous and dangerous.-"he's crazy"...Joker,"am not"..great! 10/10 when you rethink subtle nuances of storytelling and really break down the characters in reference to their dillemas you find this to be not just a great superhero film, or a great character film, or a great final performance by a great actor, but all in all a great movie. This overshadows any small plot holes such as "what happened after Batman and Rachel were thrown out of the window, did Bats and JOker call it a night?"...and really lets the viewer see a masterpiece of a film, and probably the greatest sequel since The Godfather II.
Newton | July 22, 2008 5:45 PM
It seems just about every scene Heath Ledger was in has been cited as the most memorable, but one that really stuck out for me which nobody is mentioning is the hand-held video he made which was aired on the news, of him interogating the phony Batman wannabe. This is the man who fought crime in hockey pads, who we (and Batman) scoff at when the film begins, now a pathetic blubbering mass trying desperately to explain to the Joker why he admires Batman so, and why he wants to emulate him. The Joker's mockery of him, of everything he believed in, really got to me. I was furious, sad, and felt intensely guilty for laughing at this wannabe Batman earlier in the film. And within the context of the film, I think this is the precise feeling the Joker wanted to instill in Batman (and, judging by Bruce Wayne's reaction, I think it worked). This scene is probably more a credit to Christopher Nolan and his screenplay than to Heath Ledger, but so be it; when I closed my eyes after leaving the theatre, I saw that man sobbing as the Joker's hand reaching out from the camera and disdainfully tore his mask off.
Peter Parka | July 22, 2008 5:06 PM
The scene that sticks with me the most hospital scene. More specifically when the Joker stopped in the hallway to apply hand sanitizer. Completly shows that he is a man without a plan just winging it.
Nolan Martin | July 22, 2008 4:43 PM
Uh, the movie brought in 153. whatever million dollars its first week and you're asking if it will be the biggest movie of the summer. Let me respond with an arousing DUH!!!! Yes it will be!!! This is how you make a good movie. This film has the all the elements of a very good movie. Great acting, character development is incredible, and good story telling. Christian Bale is cool as ever and the late Heath Ledger is pretty darn near close to mesmerizing.
Anonymous | July 22, 2008 4:42 PM
I def think batman can it's really the first pop culture phenomenon since Titanic to have a reputation for A. being one of those movies you HAVE to see, whether it's your kind of movie or not and B. if you do like it's worth seeing again, maybe even 3 times.
And such a metaphysical popcorn movie always garners double viewing, especially when conversation after seeing the movie is more significant than talking about the hype preceeding it (which the Dark Knight thankfully lives up to).
Conor | July 22, 2008 4:31 PM
The scene I remember is the one where everybody's clapping for Gordon, and the Joker keeps clapping...hes like a cobra: he may be imprisoned, but hes still dangerous; and when he says "i think we'll be doing this forever". a brilliant performance; nolan's casting was a stroke of complete genius
Box Office Behemoth | July 22, 2008 3:37 PM
Travers, this shouldn't even be a debate. The Dark Knight will kill Iron Man & Indiana Jones by the end of its second weekend. It will have around $300 mill by the end of next weekend. Watch. It will destroy every other movie of the year.
Ossie | July 22, 2008 12:09 PM
400 million and I've seen worse from PG13 films. The scene that haunts me is the Joker riding in the back of the police car, wind blowing through his...I dunno why. Can't shake it.
Movie MIke | July 22, 2008 11:59 AM
Question: How will Christian Bale's recent arrest for assault on his mother and sister affect the box-office?
It will be interesting to see how far it drops next week.
Remember Cinderella Man and the Russell Crowe phone throwing fiasco? That was a GREAT movie...easily should have been a $100 mill blockbuster. The bad pub caused it's downfall.
utznpt | July 22, 2008 11:31 AM
I have to admit that with the late Heath Legers death it added to the hype but also whether it was fate or something supernatural ALL of the acting in the movie was superb. I literally felt like the crowd was walking the Jokers knifes edge of empathy and disdain for the villain. Ledgers performance is LEGENDARY he disappears into the role, so to answer the question; had Heath been alive to see this premier it would still gain the notoriety that it justly deserves...
Ryan Monk | July 22, 2008 11:15 AM
Who Gives? I loved the movie even before i saw it- And it was everything I hoped, dreamed and more when I did see it. I dont care what parents are complaining about or how well it does. We should leave that worrying up the the people actually making money on the film!
abi | July 22, 2008 10:44 AM
i thought the film was good, not great.. heath ledger's performance is overrated. aaron eckhart is the true star of the film, he is the only one with substantive character development in this film. the failure to give the joker any depth made the joker's role and the joker's motive to be evil and wreak havoc very hollow. i think heath did the best that could be done with it, but the main flaw was with the script. it should have been simplified to exclude the whole mafia element and simply play out the battle between good and evil with aaron eckhart as the pawn, and fill the time with more character development for batman, bruce wayne and the joker.
GU$ | July 22, 2008 5:40 AM
oh i forgot the best part for the joker was when he left the hospital dressed as a nurse and tried to set off the bombs either that or when he was playing chicken with batman or when he was playing with the bomb strapped to his chest or......
GU$ | July 22, 2008 5:38 AM
i think batman is one of the most amazing big budget films of the past few years i left the theater and could hardly sleep when i got home.
i couldn't take my eyes off ledger and i believe he would be getting all this hype even if he hadn't died. the only thing people will think is it a pity we will never get to see him act again as he was a brilliant actor who had only just started to get some credit recently in hollywood, if you want to see how great he was check out some of his smaller australian films.
this film will be the biggest film of the year and deservedly, it has one of the greatest performances i've seen in years and a great cast. iron man was good and downey jr, was excellent but dark night has done something new and great is usually missing in comic book pop corn flicks. this movie is hopefully going to change the way big budget movies are made.
z.o. | July 22, 2008 3:26 AM
im gong to agree with anonymous and say it was when he stuck his head out of the window. there was something kind of haunting about it...
Marty J | July 22, 2008 2:53 AM
"You can't be serious about Indy?" Ha-ha-ha. Travers, yet again, manages to prove himself the world's biggest bandwagon jumper. God forbid anyone enjoy a fun, pretension free movie that doesn't feature some bloke getting half his face burnt off. Shame on modern, working families. How dare they try to escape the grey, dreary depression of day-to-day life by watching something that's actually fun. And that's why I hate Peter Travers. He can't think for himself.
Amazing Film | July 22, 2008 2:04 AM
To me, the most dynamic scene for Ledger, was when he was walking out of the exploding hospital (not looking back of course) dressed as a nurse after his speach to Two Face. Truly disturbing and unforgettable.
Joe | July 22, 2008 1:22 AM
It'll be the big one of the year, for two very different reasons:
1) Heath Ledger's untimely death gave this film a resonance that a superhero franchise normally wouldn't carry. It would have still opened well, but probably not as big.
2) Word of mouth will send people who would have ignored a superhero franchise to the movies to see a great film. It helps (as it did Iron Man) that the reviews are glowing across the board.
Will it be the big box office winner? Hard to say, with a classic Pixar movie also reviewing well and easier for the little ones to watch. Wall-E and Dark Knight will be the two big box office champs; can we even remember a time when two very good movies were the top of the box office?
djoyaux | July 22, 2008 12:45 AM
i certainly hope the movie passes the 400 million mark if only because that will help it's chances at awards time. hollywood loves to reward success stories. the film is certainly a masterpiece to the extent that it doesn't deserve to be called a comic book movie (and i'm a comic book guy). in the way that the godfather is not just a gangster movie, the good the bad and the ugly is not just a western, and 2001 is not just a sci-fi movie, dark knight doesn't deserve to be pigeonholed with a genre label. if anything, call it an epic.
ledger is every bit as good as advertised. when an artist of any medium dies their work immediately becomes overinflated (am i the only person that remembers people liking pearl jam better than nirvana when cobain was still alive?), but in this case, the work simply can't be overinflated. even if ledger was still alive and this were simply his most recent film, all the press and praise would still be about him. to me, there are two marks of great acting: 1. if you don't even feel like you're watching acting anymore and virtually view the character as real, and 2. if you literally can't imagine any actor pulling off the performance. during the baptism scene in there will be blood, daniel day lewis starts screaming so convincingly that you see his neck veins bulge and his face start shaking. that was the moment that i felt the performance transcended acting. heath ledger also has those scenes in this film. for me, other than the mob meeting/pencil disappearing scene (where does that rank among the all-time great film character entrances?), the scene where i became completely sold on the joker was when gordon gets promoted to commissioner and the joker starts clapping in a very ominous manner with the most terrifying set of eyes i've ever seen. when an actor delivers an unforgettable facial expression without saying a word, you know it was a classic performance.
something nobody's been talking about: what about a screenplay nomination for the nolan bros? great performances don't happen without great dialogue and great scenes for an audience to remember. the fact that nobody can agree on the best scene in a movie filled with candidates means the story obviously delivered in a big way.
Remington Smith | July 22, 2008 12:37 AM
I've heard complaints that "The Dark Knight" isn't fun enough, I suppose audiences and reviewers alike assuming summer flicks have to operate at the mental capacity of "Transformers."
I'm not sure if I should be cynical or hopeful with "The Dark Knight." No one can argue the film's power, addressing our lives at multiple levels, but do "people" want this kind of entertainment? I think this could be a sleeper hit, raking in dow slowly but surely over the summer. I don't think people, like myself, will see it multiple times for the engaging story, but maybe for the semi- that gets flipped over vertically.
*Wall-E is in a similar predicament: low expectations from the audience clashing with a film that tries to engage you
Jason | July 21, 2008 11:17 PM
Let us not forget Aaron Eckhart's brilliant, complex dual-role, which I believe rivaled Ledger's.
right here. | July 21, 2008 11:13 PM
I think everyone has mentioned great Joker moments and I'll just add one more that definitely stuck with me. The moment when he realizes that the people on the two boats aren't going to resort to chaos and killing each other is priceless. There's a mili-seconds glimpse of doubt. Maybe people aren't all evil and they won't all turn against you. And you kinda get the feeling that he wants to believe in that and everything that Batman believes in but life has taught him otherwise. Maybe I'm reading too far into one wayward glance, but it seriously struck me.
Don Irven | July 21, 2008 10:54 PM
To be able to get so far into the skin and mind of these complex, and exciting- as- hell characters - it never happens without that initial pen to paper moment! Thanks to Nolan and his brother!
And, didn't you just love the masterful music behind those memorable scenes? Some of the score reminded me of Bernard Hermann's "strings only" gems from the Hitchcock classics.
This movie will shot to the top ---real fast!
Anonymous | July 21, 2008 10:12 PM
favorite image: The Joker sticking his head outside of a cop car: soaking up the aroma of anarchy and chaos that he created....it plays out as slow motion...and has no music with it...it's startling a man can possess such hate and love every ounce of it
Mark | July 21, 2008 9:42 PM
The scene that stands out for me is Maggie G's final scene. I have not been affected that much by a scene in a movie for years. The sense of terror eminating from her was absolutely haunting. Something I will not forget for a long time. Of course Heath Ledger stole the show, but her final scene was the high (and low point) of the film for me.
HIM | July 21, 2008 9:26 PM
This film was an absolute masterpiece in my opinon. The whole cast was great without a doubt. Everything you can say about Ledgers performance has been said, he was fantastic. It is so sad he cant reprise his role in the next chapter in this franchise and also other films. He disappeared into the character. To those who say the movie was too long: Why So Serious? It was perfect.
mike b. | July 21, 2008 7:49 PM
this movie is great to the point where it will soon be uncool to say that it's so great. that said, it's obviously gonna be the highest grossing film of the year. actually, this is the first movie since Titanic that could be both the highest grossing and the big oscar winner (wait...maybe the third Lord of the Rings was too). Not to mention that in this case it might actually be the best pic of the year.
blackriver | July 21, 2008 7:44 PM
easily the best comic movie ever made, but also deserves respect simply as a great film. its got serious philosophical undertones, and plays unapologetically and fearlessly. i think ledger's death adds some buzz for some viewers, but his performance stands on its own. he found the depth in a character that has been traditionally over(under?)acted. in fact, everyone is on their game in this. understand that people think two face had a short-lived screen life, but if the quality writing, acting, and directions continues, there are plenty of other villains to explore. hopefully the watchmen will maintain the grit of the novel, but the dark knights a damn tough act to follow.
Jud Richards | July 21, 2008 7:35 PM
I totally agree with the writer in this case in that Ledger's shining moment was in the Police station when he was being beaten by Batman. Unbelievable acting...My argument is that I truly feel that this film was the greatest achievement in the Comic Genre and should be given a nod for a nomination for not only Ledger but Best Picture. Comic Films have been the biggest draw for Hollywood over the years and the Academy should honor the Best Film ever based on a Comic. We'll have to wait and see.....
NUGGET | July 21, 2008 7:31 PM
The scene that I love which had me sitting on the edge of my seat like a child in anticipation(Im 28) was the chase between the semi-truck and the bat pod. When the batpod rode up the side of the wall to spin around I could barely contain myself from not cheering outloud. This is what has been missing from films since the advent of CGI; a true sense of excitement & danger. It was like seeing THE TEMPLE OF DOOM, TRUE LIES & BATMAN(89) for the first time.
And what an ending, damn near Shakesperean if I must say; especially Oldmans response to his son. If anything happens to Bale, that last scene of him on the batpod will be on a constant loop.
Its not a perfect film, but like THE DEPARTED it's a commercial film that harkens back to a Hollywood when a little class, story, talent was put ahead of marketing and pretty faces.
h2sublime | July 21, 2008 7:16 PM
Unbelievable. Amazing. Maybe one of the best movies ever made. I will never forget it. Yes, way past 400 mil.
Mike | July 21, 2008 6:58 PM
The scene that pushed me over the edge was when The Joker was revealed in the trailer of the semi truck. I can't believe how insanely cool that looked.
Mike | July 21, 2008 6:58 PM
The scene that pushed me over the edge was when The Joker was revealed in the trailer of the semi truck. I can't believe how insanely cool that looked.
AlucardX86 | July 21, 2008 6:57 PM
Well, obviously there has not been enough said about the joker, lol. I will say that Bale delivered once again as batman, Playboy during the day, and law-giver at night. The movie was absolutely brilliant. Even from the start, at the bank, you knew there was going to be some interesting twists. Without taking credit away from Ledger, the entire cast did well in contrasting the insanity of the joker. I am, however, a little sad, since the ending leaves our crusader fighting a one man war.... Come back Fox!!
Jared | July 21, 2008 6:36 PM
The Dark Knight is king as it should be, and I really liked Iron Man and Wall-E. Heath Ledger's performance is a piece of art and a gift to the audience. Something that so many actors' performances lack. The scene that haunts me is the scene where the Joker's head is hanging out the window as the world (Gotham) flies by in slow motion. Stunning filmwork.
batty | July 21, 2008 6:34 PM
the image of heaths joker alone was enough to get me excited about this movie regardless of whether he died or not. the fact that he did die may have even made it worse for me because the hype rose so much being his final performance and that lingered in the back of my mind a little too much. All in all though the movie was very fun and pleasing, of course, however I am kind of disappointed in not hearing enough talk about the script. The acting was obviously brilliant. I thought the script in begins had a lot of great ideas and the vision was all there and then there were the lines that stuck out and were cheesy and reduced the movie a bit from being more than the average superhero movie. The same lines sprinkled this movie, however i thought there were many more genius bits in this one (the changing stories of the scars on the jokers face!) Many will say these lines are just an attempt to make the movie fun, but for me the fun is all in the darkness of it and when these cheesy lines come up (i wish i could give an example) they just kinda make me cringe...does anyone else know what im talking about?
Steve Galgas | July 21, 2008 6:05 PM
I think it'll be the winner of the summer, hands down. It should have legs, due to the great reviews and people leaving the theatre genuinely pleased.
The images I remember most are
1) The Joker's final speech- that shot of the Joker hanging upside down, with the rotating camera turning him right side up was GENIUS! Summarized the character perfectly. Such an odd, creepy, magical moment.
2) The revelation of Two Face- mostly because of my curiosity over how the movie was going to handle the character. Sadly, I think they wasted him... should have waited to use the character in the next movie. The Harvey Dent storyline was great, though... just not his alter ego's.
Bianca | July 21, 2008 5:33 PM
This year? Any Batman fan knew that this movie was coming out by Thanksgiving of 2007, which caused high expectations. I had high expectations for Indy 4 and Iron Man, but I can say I was not impressed when I saw them. EVERYTHING ABOUT THE DARK KNIGHT IS IMPRESSEING. I think it will stay strong for the rest of the year because it was a good movie. Spiderman 3 was a great disappointment with bad acting. The Dark Knight was more than a superhero movie.
I have been around Batman my entire life, I am 18. I was interested in Batman Begins but not so impressed. The Dark Knight was more than I though Batman could be. Ledger took the Joker to a place that Jack Nicolson never would of. Ledger deserves all the praise he is given. Nolan made Batman real and the Joker psycho. WALL-E was a good movie, but Batman surpasses it in everyway. Iron Man was good, but Batman surpasses it in everyway. Indiana made me sad, no praise, it can go away with it’s spaceship.
I could of told you Heath Ledger was crazy good in this movie from the previews. It means something when the preview scares you. True that Heath Ledger’s death caused a big stir, but you cannot deny the fact that he put so much depth into a character with no specific back ground. He was going to be something great in the next few years. If he was still here people would want to know how he could act that crazy and where it came from, that is what I want to know. I think it would of still have been a big hit, and still took the BO records.
“What about a magic trick?”. That scene with all the gangsters, it was ingenious how witty the Joker is and impressive with everything he does such as wiring himself with the grenades. That scene was AMAZING!
Close to $500 Million when all is said and done…
White Elephant | July 21, 2008 5:26 PM
Peter, maybe you should be writing for Entertainment Weekly. I thought you were a film critic, not a gossip columnist.
Joker77 | July 21, 2008 5:25 PM
It is the best movie of the year, and deserves to break every record, even the top grossing film ever that I think Titanic holds. Weather it does or not. The best scene is when the Joker is baiting the cop about how many of his friends he's killed and mouths six back to the cop, and starts asking for his phone call. Ledgers deaths plays no roll for me, I liked him in 'I'm Not There' and was excited about this movie regardless, but it does draw some viewers to watch the "car crash." Its an instant classic with classic performences. Enjoy, its better the second time, which is the true mark of a great film.
Ise | July 21, 2008 5:19 PM
Oh, and as far as the whole "family movie" thing is concerned... yeah, this is even more of a "NO, don't take your kid!" movie than the original Batman was when I was a kid.
One of the first things I did when I got out of the movie was to call my brother and tell him not to take my seven year old Batman-loving nephew.
Ise | July 21, 2008 5:14 PM
That interrogation scene is amazing. I couldn't agree more with Peter; to me perhaps the highlight of any film I've seen this decade, and that's including some of the more intense scenes in films like There Will Be Blood and No Country for Old Men - scenes more recent in memory.
I saw a 6am Friday showing before work, and I wasn't right for the rest of the day. Personally I see the character Nolan and Ledger created for the Joker to be a sort of anti-Obama. He is the opposite of hope. His ability to tear down Dent from his pedestal is terrifying. And perhaps the worst part in all of this is his anonymity. He wears unmarked clothes, has no prints, no identity. He is as faceless as any terrorist the western world has come to fear. We identify the character because we have feared him for so long already.
No where is this more clear in the film than in that interrogation scene. Ledger becomes a mirror for the fear already intrensic in our Post 9/11 souls. Brilliant.
I strongly believe if Heath were here, he'd still be a shoe-in for an award.
Joker's Wild | July 21, 2008 4:58 PM
bhannonou, you honestly think The Dark Knight will not beat Iron Man in box office? It has already made half of Iron Man's gross and it has been out for 3 days!! Are you kidding??
Mandela, you are wrong about the Marketing exploitation. Warner Bros would have done the exact same thing with their marketing regardless of Heath's passing. You didn't see the Joker all over the place before his death because that was 7 or 8 months ago!! They saved the major marketing for closer to the movie's release!! His face is all over the place because his performance is legendary! And it would be just as praised if he were alive today.
Jim | July 21, 2008 4:57 PM
I havent seen anyone mention this but what about when...
after the joker had been defeated, is hanging upsidedown, and still gets the last laugh regarding harvey dent. it sent chills down my spine even already knowing what he had done and capped of a hurricane of violence that was the joker tearing through the screen.
Rolando | July 21, 2008 4:21 PM
The Dark Knight lived up to the hype and then some. Heath Ledger's performance will be talked about for years. His Joker was very disturbing and the fact that his motive was to simply create chaos perfectly illustrated the character's psychology. The interrogation scene with Batman was classic. Also kudos to Aaron Eckhart and Gary Oldman for their performances.
Mandela | July 21, 2008 4:13 PM
No, It would have opened probably in the 120s and grossed just over 300 million, and hey, the reiews wouldve been a little less stellar too. It would still be a three and a half star movie, and heath ledger would be getting oscar buzz, but it wouldnt be quite so overwhelming, and regardless of what they say about not changing the advertising direction, ledgers face wouldnt be eveywhere the way it is now. Heck, before his death I couldnt even find a clear picture of what the joker looked like. And that was a better advertising idea. His face wouldve been more shocking if we didnt see it until we sat down to watch it. Now his characters appearence is all that more sterlized since we've been bombarded with it since his passing. So thanks to the rampant exploitation, i think this movie ticks passes the 400 mark, but comes up well shy of Titanic though.
Bentley | July 21, 2008 4:02 PM
To me, the image of the Batman immitator hanging outsie the mayor's office remains. The Joker telling the crime syndicate "No, I'm not crazy" is hard to get out of my head as well. Ledger's expression was so complex- as if he was fighting the pain within to maintain his personna, and succeeding.
Anyway, I was a big fan of Batman Begins and Nolan's other work, and enough of a Ledger fan before he died to sit through I'm Not There in a theatre. I was going to see the Dark Knight no matter what. Ledger's death fanned the flames, but it would have broken 100 mil. if he was still with us and promoting the film.
I think it will break 400 mil. because of the word-of-mouth, but I'm certainly no expert.
Joker's Wild | July 21, 2008 3:52 PM
This movie will shatter Spiderman 3's final gross because word of mouth will be absolutely fantastic. Plus, repeat viewings including me. I agree there are so many images and quotes that stick in my head, and they all include the joker and the chase scene. The opening bank robbery, disappearing pencil, prancing out of the hospital w/ detonator, interrogation scene, the party crashing scene.
Rarely have I sat and watched a movie and had butterflies in my stomach from the excitement. This movie did that for me pretty much the entire running time. This movie will be remembered decades from now as the benchmark for sequels, comic book movies, crime dramas, you name it. I didn't want it to end. I could have watched a 4-hour version. Everyone involved deserves the success so much.
w0nderwall | July 21, 2008 3:49 PM
This movie will maintain strong momentum for a variety of reasons: comic-book fans & the Heath Ledger faithful. This film will get very close to $400 million by the end of the summer. $375-$390 million I think is realistic. The real question is can this film flirt with nearly a $1 billion dollars worldwide to give Titanic a run for its money. And yes, this film would carry just as much of an impact had Ledger not passed away. His performance is too good. As for the lasting image, I agree that the scene between Batman and The Joker in the interrogation room was powerful but the image of Batman directly behind him once the lights turned on showed just how giant these two figures are. This film is a beautiful tale of the complex nature of good and evil which rivals similar themes found in classic films such as The Godfather Part II.
bhannonou | July 21, 2008 3:46 PM
I have to say that "The Dark Knight," despite it's record-breaking box office, will not be the top earner of the year. That award will go to "Iron Man." Don't get me wrong, the "Knight" will have outstanding legs and Nolan's style of narrative pays dividends with multiple viewings. But "Iron Man" has more of a family appeal to go with it's great hype and positive reviews.
I personally went to see the movie for several reasons. After the great revitalization of the Batman franchise with "Batman Begins," it was a must-see. I have always been a fan of Nolan's work, so that was another reason. The film is loaded with overqualified actors. There's a third reason. But the amazing nature of Ledger's unforgettable swan song performance made it a must see and ultimately led to it's massive opening weekend.
"Wall-E" was fantastic and daring on a totally different level and both it and "The Dark Knight" were epics in their own ways.
There are too many memorable Joker moments to count, but one I enjoyed and was haunting was a time when he didn't say a word. When the Joker sticks his body out of the cop car window, riding with glee after causing chaos and tragedy of the highest order (mentally and physically disfiguring Dent, killing Rachel Dawes, getting one over on Gordon, leaving Batman standing iconically over/in ruins), it is a haunting portrait of evil triumphing over good.
Oh yeah, and the final gross will be $317 million.
Travers.
Anonymous | July 21, 2008 3:45 PM
I think The Dark Knight gained a lot of attention because of Heath Ledger's death, but that's completely natural and no credibility should be taken from his performance because of it. His role in Brokeback Mountain gained just as much attention and acclaim when he was alive. He was absolutely brilliant as the Joker and deserves to be recognised for it, alive or dead.
Jables | July 21, 2008 3:26 PM
1. Yes, this movie can maintain the momentum. Reviewers and movie goers alike are throwing much deserved praise on this film. It's got people talking and word of mouth is going to keep it going. Batman is an American icon. People have fond memories of Michael Keaton as Batman 20 years ago and that will help. A lot of people didn't even know what an Iron Man was when the movie was released, and it has gone on to do well for itself. A character like Batman so ingrained in U.S. culture (I'm not sure about the popularity of the character worldwide), will be able to hold on. While Indiana Jones, also a beloved character, has started to run out of steam, it's important to remember critical praise has been less for this installment and lots of people were left poo-pooing it coming out of theaters.
2. I don't think Heath Ledger's death is really propelling this vehicle. His performance is. He did quality work in a quality film. If he were alive, people would still be coming out in droves to see his interpretation of what might be the definitive take on the Joker. When he died, the question on a lot of minds was, "Did he finish his role in The Dark Knight first?" A lot of the success this movie is based on is due to the quality outing that was Batman Begins. People that loved that movie wanted to see more from the same people.
3. As for the most unforgettable scene: take your pick. Is it the bank robbery that surpasses the one in Heat? The Joker's "magic trick"? The semi truck getting flipped head over heels? The interrogation scene? The list could go on.
4. This movie could eclipse $400 million easily. The summer movie season is winding down. The other big name releases are mostly comedies (Tropic Thunder, Pineapple Express). The Dark Knight is the only game in town if you want superhero crime drama. The only other true blue popcorn flick of the sumer is a new Mummy movie that no one asked for. Plus, The Dark Knight met and exceeded expectations, a rarity for something as hyped as this movie is. Repeat viewings abound.
Alex | July 21, 2008 3:17 PM
Poop
Nazo | July 21, 2008 2:54 PM
In the interrogation room, the joker provokes the guy guarding the door into attacking him. The joker keeps badgering the cop, "How many of your friends died?"
After some deliberation, the man reluctantly says, "Six."
The joker mouths "Six!" but hardly makes any sound, like we might say "ouch!" with a grimace when seeing a bone-shattering play in football. Of course, the joker had a hand in the deaths of those six guys, but the way he maintains his composure and demonstrates such perfect yet ironical pathos is brilliant. It shows that he has an extremely deep understanding of human nature, and it really made me see the character as not someone who's missing a few lights in the attic, but rather someone with shocking clarity and perspicacity who has reasons deeper than insanity for his actions.
And I think those moments give the film its depth. We see this person not motivated by the usual ideological suspects or mental / emotional deficiencies, but someone uniquely perceiving who has seen and embraced something dark he has found in human nature. He is the antithesis of Batman, instead of seeing these 'evil' things and combating them, he sees a poetic beauty in people destroying each other, betraying one another, and suffering. He is Jean Genet with a violent twist.
Anonymous | July 21, 2008 2:29 PM
No, obviously it wouldn't of been so appealing and distracting watching Ledger onscreen as the schizophrenic Joker if he was alive at the time. Still, he gave a mesmerizing performance, maybe his best. Part of the charm of the performance was that we are watching a new movie with a dead star, unfortunately. All the scenes with the Joker were fresh and intense, even the little symbols of his imminent striking--joker cards, videos, and even his criminal cohorts--sparked your curiosity the whole time.
WALL E and The Dark Knight are two different movies on two different levels. Asides from the obviousness of the differences, one is meant to project human warmth (or robot) in the face of widespread destruction. The other, interestingly enough, showcases the inner-workings of the joker's mind. But is it possible that on a larger scale the joker is meant to represent all the perverse minds of the world who seek havoc, not for profit, but pure psychological pleasure? Both offer a portrait of society,a portrait too deep for most casual moviegoers to cherish.
Travers gave WALL E four stars and The Dark Knight three-and-a-half. Both are compelling movies that leave you breathless, but the difference, in terms of abstractions, and all fundamental emotions, is so negligible in the two that it would be impossible to pin down what exactly separates the two blockbusters.
samaloy | July 21, 2008 2:27 PM
Pivotal Joker scene (are there any others?) for me was the Joker in the cell clapping when Gordon was named the new commissioner.
Also the heart to heart he has with that poor sucker of a police officer. "How many of your friends have I killed?"
Whether or not people went to see this movie because of the instant posthumous legacy that Heath Ledger will inherit, upon exiting the cinema all you can talk about is the caliber of his performance. His death has to be an afterthought after seeing an all out balls to the wall performance like his in "The Dark Knight."
Jack mpls | July 21, 2008 2:27 PM
For those who think Wall E lacks depth and substance please return to film school. Dark Knight is great so is Wall E but one can't really compare the two at all. They each suceed in their storytelling, and Wall e is a triumph.
Mr. Minimac | July 21, 2008 2:16 PM
I predict that the numbers will just keep rising. My 19 year old son (who prefers independent films over Hollywood blockbusters) has already made plans to see it for the third time.
Also major kudos to Imax. The experience at our local Imax was like nothing I have ever experienced. The sound system was cranked up to the max and you could physically feel every shotgun blast. The vistas of Gotham City / Chicago were truly breathtaking. Destined to become a classic of the genre. The bar has been raised.
anon | July 21, 2008 2:01 PM
dark knight is far better than both walle and iron man (a great summer movie, but lacked the in depth substance of dark knight). Obviously dark knight as not intende to be a family filmwhich may ultimately hurt its longevity in the box office. i cant get the image of the joker burning the piles of money out of my head, also the whole police station scene. sadly some of the success of the film must be attributed to people's curiosty to see ledgers final performance
scorebaby | July 21, 2008 1:58 PM
Haven't seen Wall-e yet, but will. Indy was popcorn fun, but ultimately inferior to Raiders (how could it not be?!) and Iron Man was great because of RDJ.
Dark Knight benefitted big time from Ledger's death. No question, without that morbid appeal it would NOT have broken the record. That said, I thought it was well done, but too long by 30 minutes and too relentlessly dark (it could have used a laugh or two like the "weaponized hallucinogen" bit in Batman Begins). A classic for the ages? Only time will tell, but I blame the box office on people's morbid fascination with dead celebrities.
Nathan Duke | July 21, 2008 1:44 PM
"The Dark Knight" is a very good film, while "Indiana Jones" and "Iron Man" are both solid, good films.
"Wall-E," on the other hand, gets my vote for the best American movie of the year so far, hands down.
Tim | July 21, 2008 1:39 PM
All of the comments have been pretty good... but what about burning the huge pile of money? That adds another level of depth to the whole character. You have no doubt as to any motive he may have after that. The whole bit about TNT and Gasoline being cheap- what it does is make all money-hungry villains in any other movie look cheap. (Pun intended) I found myself only wanting to see the next "Joker" scene. What was the next scene going to reveal? How twisted could he become?
The depth to this movie sets it apart- people will be captivated by this Ledger performance for years. It would not surprise me to see the face of the Joker in this movie become an iconic staple. I guarantee you will see some 18-yr old at a My Chemical Romance Show with the Joker tattooed on his arm in the next year.
jargandargan | July 21, 2008 1:15 PM
Not that Bale wasn't incredible in the movie... the man is an insanely talented actor, and nobody I can think of would've played the role as well. But when it comes to images you remember from the movie, Ledger absoluetley dominated.
1. Joker, outfitted as a nurse, power-limp-walking away from the scene of destruction, has a jeopardy moment (as in: the guy who's noticably miffed when, despite his repeated clicking, Barbara on his left buzzes in first to answer Alex's question), with his detonator, which only lasts a few seconds as the subsequent explosion levels the rest of the building. Joker happily skips away.
2. Joker in the cell, sitting there and looking terrifying, while the cops discuss their lack of info on the guy. No ID, no prints, all clothes custom made. Every time the camera focuses on Ledger, it is pure, unbridled awesomeness. This awesomeness continues into the interrogation room, which is equally memorable.
3. Joker, while being dangled from the top of that building, having a heart to heart with batman. "You can't kill me because of some misguided sense of honor," (not a direct quote) "and I can't kill you because you're too much fun."
4. Joker on foot vs. The Bat Cycle: "come on come on do it come on hit me come on..."
Honorable mentions go to:
a. The first time Harvey Two Face's left side of his mug is shown.
b. Batman dropping that douche bag mafia guy off the ledge. "From this height the fall won't kill me." "I'm counting on it." That's just stellar.
c. That ridiculously excellent part where batman flips the hell outta joker's semi-truck. I don't know much about "IMAX," but I'm assuming that was one of the IMAX caliber scenes.
Clifton | July 21, 2008 12:54 PM
The image that can't be erased from my memory is when Ledger puts the gun to his own head. Kudos to Nolan for leaving it in.
eric | July 21, 2008 12:42 PM
while the dark knight is, without a doubt, a good movie, and may be a classic of the superhero genre, it's not a great movie. ledger is amazing, though i think his masterpiece is brokeback mountain- which deserved a wider audience. but maggie gylenhaal is miscast, and after a while i found myself asking why there had to be yet another explosion, and the move to china was unnecessary. without ledger, this film would've been just another entertaining summer movie with too many explosions. its as good as batman begins but not better.
Homestar | July 21, 2008 12:41 PM
The Dark Knight will definitely go on to be the top grossing film of the year. The universal acclaim is still buzzing and people have still yet to see it. All this positive buzz will push TDK to the top of the box office by the end of the year.
The unforgettable image of The Joker for me is when you see him in the hospital in the nurse outfit. That's the kind of image that sticks to the back of your head as a true nightmare.
The Heath Ledger factor is undoubtedly another driving force of both the acclaim and the box office. It is one of the most superb performances ever. Having seen it, I can safely say that it must be nominated at the very least for an Oscar. We still have the fall season of Oscar movies to go through, so I'd prefer not to jump the gun and say that he will win it, but he has a strong chance. His memory would be stamped into history of he did posthumously win the Oscar. Hell, Oscar or not, his memory will be remembered as an incredibly talented actor who's career went out on the top his game.
What a great film. The Dark Knight still has me talking. It's the reason I love movies so much. I've gotta go see it a second time now.
Savon | July 21, 2008 12:37 PM
1) Yes, The Dark Knight will having the staying power to rule the box office summer and the year.
2)There is no question in my mind The Dark Knight deserves all the box office glory. The film exceeded even my high expectations with acting excellence, breathtaking action, and a compelling story. I am pleased with Iron Man's success as well, though.
3) The Dark Knight stirred my interest because Batman Begins was such a triumph. I could not wait to see Nolan and Bale in action again, and the return of Morgan Freeman, Michael Caine, and Gary Oldman was most welcome. Ledger's death impacted my viewing of the film more so than my anticipation. His performance solidified my belief that he was truly a master of his craft.
4) The image that stays with me is the final confrontation between Two-Face Harvey Dent and Commissioner Gordon. The tension and torment Oldman and Aaron Eckhart evoked had me on the edge of my seat.
5) Final gross: $425 million.
Alice | July 21, 2008 12:32 PM
As much as I enjoyed watching Wall-E and Iron Man the experiance was nowhere near what I felt during the Dark Knight. The movie is 2 hours and 30 some minutes and to me it only felt like an hour. I plan to see it several more times and I think the general audience probably will feel the same.
Heath Ledger's portrayal of the joker was one of my favorite parts of the film and I think I can honestly say that I would have been equally enthusiastic if he was still alive (RIP). I can't speak for every viewer but when I watched the joker I wasn't watching Heath, it felt like I was watching something new and brilliant.
I loved the scene in the police station as well. The interaction between Heath and Christian Bale was electrifying and a joy to watch. But my favorite scene was (and I don't really remember when this was) when the Joker said "I don't want to kill you. What would I do without you?" a total insight into their complex relationship. Although who could ever forget the Joker in drag greeting Harvey Dent with a hilarious (but creepy!) "Hiiiiii......"
I think due to the excellent reviews (that will probably continue to draw people in) and the rewatchability of the film Th Dark Knight will be the highest grossing film of the summer.
Juan Carlo | July 21, 2008 11:37 AM
No, Peter, please, don't make it so easy... Yes, I do think THE DARK KNIGHT will become the top (bat?) dog at the B.O. because it will not let go, whereas IRON MAN has finally started to let go of the Top 10 and INDY 4 has thankfully (and I say this with a heavy heart) ran out of gas. As more reviews and word-of-mouth come out, this movie will attract hordes. And don't get me started on the overseas factor: here in Venezuela, you either book your ticket the day before or you wait a week to watch it. I saw it twice on Saturday.
Jon | July 21, 2008 11:17 AM
Spider-Man 3 and Dark Knight both attempted to take an excessive amount of plot points and make them coherent. Raimi failed miserably, where Nolan met and exceeded the challenge. I think the Dark Knight will be the years' highest grossing film, because unlike the previous record holder it's going to have long legs at the theaters due to its outstanding quality.
There is something near (and I stress near) Shakespearean in Nolan's writing...secret identities that give the viewer knowledge of what the villain doesn't know, love triangles, the corruption and destruction of once noble characters, dualities and the shades of grey that lurk between them. The use of clearly overdone dualities of dark/white knights, murkiness of good/evil, etc, well when they're done right they aren't overdone. They're compelling and tragic.