Bennett doesn't like the label "comeback," seeing as he never
really vanished. Thus, it seems we've made the comeback, returning
to a musical treasure who has bridged an unprecedented three
generations. He's seventy-three going on forty, full of energy,
vitality and an unparalleled productivity. Between performing,
recording and painting, Tony Bennett is a busy man. He's also a
musical preservationist. His Perfectly Frank (1992) gave
props to his best friend, Frank Sinatra. Steppin' Out, his
tribute to Fred Astaire, followed the next year. Here's to the
Ladies (1995) was a tip to his favorite female singers, and
Bennett on Holiday (1997) paid due to Billie Holiday. His
latest, Bennett Sings Ellington: Hot & Cool offers up
fourteen Duke Ellington gems. In a year that has seen numerous
Ellington tributes (he would have turned one hundred back in
April), Bennett's inspired collection best captures the range and
richness of his friend and mentor, a man being positioned as the
most important American musician of the century.
It's been a big year for Ellington. What did he mean to
you?
He taught me so much. He was an interesting guy. This year he's
being acclaimed as the first official classical composer of the
Unites States. On their classical station, the BBC took a whole
week and for twenty-four hours a day played nothing but Ellington.
He was a great creative person. He was able to paint, he was able
to compose, he was able to perform. He was the consummate performer
in every aspect of the game. Each year he got better and better. He
wrote every kind of mode of music. He actually composed more music
than any composer in the history of the world. That's how prolific
he was. He wrote every night.
He's been called the first modern composer, as he wrote for
specific performers, rather than just instruments.
Yes, he chose certain artists that were really specialists: Johnny
Hodges, Harry Carney, Paul Gonsalves. The whole orchestra was just
full of all-star musicians. And he knew just how they would sound
right. He made sure that they were able to shine in his
compositions. He called them his notepad; he sketched with the
band. He was asked, "Why do you still have a band?" because he made
so much money composing. He said, "Because I need a notepad to try
things out and experiment." His whole life that's what he did,
experiment.
He seemed to cross the streams of artistic mediums. Do your
pursuits interact?
Oh, absolutely. It's funny that you mention that question -- it's
so wonderful that you did just now. Because [Ellington] told me,
don't do one thing, do two. I made a commitment right from the
moment when he told me to do that. I started painting every single
day. And by doing that, you never get burned out. Painting is very
quiet; it's very different. It's something that requires complete
concentration without an audience. I just spent a month in Italy,
and I painted the whole month. And it was so wonderful to just
paint, and then come back and you can't wait to perform again. You
have that nice release. In the meantime, one is teaching the other
at all times. It's all about line, form, color, balance. You know,
nuance.
Do you frequent Italy to stir up the creative
juices?
Well, sixty percent of all the art in the world is in Italy.
They're so prolific, and there's no deadlines there. And when it's
ready, it's really ready. I saw a man chiseling away
outside of the Leonardo da Vinci Museum of Sketching. He was
cutting the stone outside the building for the sidewalk. And I
found myself watching him for about an hour. And the next day I
happened to walk by the street and I saw it all finished. And I
realized that stone was going to be there for the next 700 to 1,000
years. They don't think [about] obsolescence. They do things with
great care and they don't care how long it takes as long as its
absolutely permanent when it's finished.
Do you worry about the future of your musical
tradition?
I saw Arthur Miller on Charlie Rose one night, and he said
it was such a shame that money has become more important than
content and integrity and quality and tradition. The older
countries show you right away what their tradition is. The British
show you theater. The Italians show you opera. And the French
[have] cooking or Impressionism. They show you what they've
contributed to the world. And we're blinded right now by how much
money we can make. And Miller was saying what a tragedy, because
when the empire collapses the only thing we have as credentials is
what we've contributed. Well, the only thing we've really, truly
invented is jazz. Elongated improvisation. This is our tradition.
You have that golden era of Gershwin, Kern, Arlen, Ellington,
Waller, performers like Art Tatum, Lester Young, Count Basie. You
can't deny it, they're all on record. It's documented. Quality
rises to the top. If it's good it's not ever going to sound dated.
Louis Armstrong will never sound dated.
The vocal tradition doesn't seem to have as many
practitioners today. Any thoughts as to why?
When I first started, performers were very helpful to one another.
People were just closer in the entertainment world. It was still
tough, but if you had a little something on the ball and respected
your elders and everything, they said, "Let's help this guy out."
It's different now. They make it too tough for the young
performers. I've been trying to start this Frank Sinatra School of
Performing Arts in Astoria [New York]. It's being well received and
we're hoping to have a wonderful school where [high school age]
musicians can study, but can also get properly involved with
different venues, little auditoriums where they can actually
perform live before they go out into the entertainment world. It's
not just performing, they'll have to have a good educational
background, so when they go to college they know how to write
essays and do everything right.
So the old style apprenticeships are dead?
The thing that's different today is that they have to get it in
school, instead of a circuit where they could go from town to town
and really hone. The early masters went from town to town and
worked the whole country and, finally, after ten or twelve years,
they became consummate performers. That's the only thing that's
regretful to me about the young musicians. There are very few
people like Madonna or Paul McCartney or Elton John who stay up
there. The majority are just big for one or two years and then they
fade out. And it's cruel, because once it gets in your blood you
don't want to stop. Mick Jagger once said in an interview, "When
I'm fifty, I'm not going to be like Frank Sinatra and Tony Bennett.
I'm going to get out of the business." And he's still doing it.
People cheer you on and they love you and you feel like, "Wait 'til
they see the next thing I'm going to come up with."
So what's the next thing you're going to come up
with?
I've been commissioned by the Juilliard String Quartet. It will be
the first time a popular singer has ever sung with the Juilliard
String Quartet. That's next on the burner.
ANDREW DANSBY
(October 15, 1999)
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