After his early afternoon cider, Davies will catch a plane back to
England to dive back into the making of his first studio solo
album. He's also got two theatrical productions to wrestle with -
the London musical "Come Dancing" and a projected Broadway
endeavor. The only medium he doesn't have on his plate at the
moment is film, though he toys with the idea of revisiting his 1985
short-feature Return to Waterloo. The chilling short story
version that closes Waterloo Sunset suggests that he
didn't quite get his way the first time around. "I wanted the
character to be a man who murdered people, and my producer said we
won't let you finish the film if you don't make him friendly," he
says, exasperated. "I said, 'He's a rapist. What do you
want me to do? Give him a song and dance?'"
Should the stories of down-and-out rocker Lester Mulligan
in Waterloo Sunset be read as a sequel to
X-Ray?
No. I've actually started drafting out the follow-up to
X-Ray, and that's a totally different thing. People always
think that it's something autobiographical -- this is a curse. This
could have been a thousand people that I know. I think a lot of
people had a blank in 1985 and came to life again in 1990. It just
happens to people - they go sleepwalking through careers and
through lives, and sometimes it takes an event to jolt them back
into reality. I chose Lester Mulligan because he represents all of
my fears and paranoias, and he's much more strung out and stretched
out than I could ever be. He's a more extreme version of me. More
romantic. I never took the pills or anything. I almost wish I had,
because it would give me the credability - it would make a much
better Behind the Music. I think the Kinks Behind the
Music would probably be the boring let down of all time,
because I suffered through my own seriousness and mundane
lifestyle, which is not very attractive. And I really like the name
Les, because if I'm out looking for a new guitar player, there are
two names where no matter how well they played, I just couldn't
employ them - Ken and Les. They're so un-rock & roll.
[Laughs]
What's the status of the solo album you've been working on?
At the moment I'm writing songs, and I'm being so picky. I'm doing
sketches of songs before I even make a demo. So its going to go
through three or four process before I make the record. But I'd
rather eliminate stuff now than have it all eliminated when the
record's done. I've got about forty songs I'd like to work on, and
I'll cut it down for the record company. But I want to make sure
the demos are done as high fidelity as possible because I'll
definitely want to use them as bonus tracks.
How are you approaching your solo album differently than
you would another Kinks album?
Well, I'm trying to get Dave's phone number! There was a meeting in
London before I came here. I was doing my will, because I've never
had one, and I told my lawyer and my accountant, 'I really miss
being in the band, because there's nobody to be angry at.' We're
actually on contract to do one more album Kinks album for EMI. But
I've spoken to my people at Capitol, and my priority is my first
solo studio record - 'please get that done.' Then, who knows.
The theater's kept you busy lately. Are there any ties
between your 'Come Dancing' show in London the production you're
planning for Broadway?
They're two different shows. The one I'm doing on Broadway is
basically an extension of my one-man show. 'Come Dancing' is a
musical with lots of actors and actresses. It's about my sisters
and how they lived through that time in post-war Britain. This
summer we did an eight-week workshop at the National Theater in
London, which is unprecedented, they don't give that much time to
people. But I think it will be a piece not for national but for the
commercial theater. It's a very fine line to tread, because theater
is a world that is so focused on the bottom line. There's no
courage in the theater. I'd say next to films, it's the most
paranoid, time wasting, exploitive creative environment, but when
it works, its wonderful.
What is the status of the Broadway show?
It's going off Broadway. I'm changing producers, because one of the
producers isn't right. It's a small show. The difficulty with it is
it's gleaned from a concert piece. It's not like normally where a
writer goes in with a play, the producers read it and the producers
say, 'We'll do it.' With this, its coming from something that's not
only proven theatrically, its proven on television on VH1 -- it
started that series [Storytellers]. So it's a difficult
one for them to understand. I think you have to adapt in the modern
theater world the same as in independent films. And it's getting
them to be flexible. If they're inflexible, it can't happen.
How would it be different from your regular
show?
Well during my last stint at Edinburgh last year, I thought, 'God,
it would be lovely if I could get somebody else to this so I
wouldn't have to work my guts out every night.' It's a tough piece
to perform. And one of the arguments we're having in negotiations
is about the amount of performances I do a week.
You can hear the collective groans, though: 'Ladies and
gentlemen, tonight the role of Ray Davies will be played
by...'
Martin Short! I can't imagine that. Who would I get to play me? I
guess David Letterman knows all the tunes. Conan O'Brien knows
all the tunes. But maybe somebody old and grouchy like
David Letterman would be a good stand-in. He could have Paul with
him. It will be difficult to cast, but that is a reality, because
if this happens I have to have an understudy, because you've got to
have a show every night. Maybe they might have to do a reduced
ticket, I don't know. But they might get somebody who comes in and
does such a great performance that they'll come in and earmark it
as their piece. Which would be fine for me.
There's another reason to give your brother a
call.
Yeah. Strangely, my new script, seriously I'm trying to make it
something that somebody could step into. The script is revealing;
it's almost in a sense that I'm the villain of the piece, and this
person that I loathed since I was born ends up being my salvation,
because without him, I couldn't have done it. Its about brotherly
love basically - that's the essence of the piece. And if I could do
that, I'm sure accomplished actors could do it with the right
script. I think that's the thing that differentiated my original
Storyteller from other people that have done it since. I
was talking to Elvis Costello the other week, and he said he
modeled his show on what I did, but he said 'We could never bring
the same thing to it because you were up there, and it had a
beginning, middle and end to it, and our show is just to fill an
hour time slot on VH1.'
Even with multiple books, musicals and a solo career, your name still usually comes with "of the Kinks" after it. How important is it to you to forge a new identity?
Well the only example of an answer I can give you is, when I first
started my Storyteller show, I played the Birchere Community
Center. And they phoned up my agent last year and said, 'We'd love
to get that show back.' My agent said, 'What, Ray Davies of the
Kinks?' And they said, 'No, the show...we want the show back.' To
me, that's success, because they remembered the show, and I was the
performer. That's a real compliment.
Last question: where does X-Ray II start
out?
It starts in Belgium. The first line is, "I woke up in Belgium, and
I sneezed." I like things like that.
RICHARD SKANSE
(March 15, 2000)
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