And although they didn't sell squat in their day, just about every
self-respecting rocker with good taste -- from Michael
Stipe to Paul Westerberg to
Matthew Sweet to Greg Dulli to,
hell, everybody -- has genuflected in front of Big Star's
three studio albums, regarding them as the awe-inspiring Holy Grail
of power-pop that they are.
Led by the enigmatic songwriter Alex Chilton (once
the teenage lead singer of the Box Tops and the
preternaturally gravelly voice behind "The Letter") and co-founding
songwriter Chris Bell, Big Star remain best-known
for odes to adolescent growing pains like "September Gurls" and
"Thirteen," the latter of which has been covered by artists as
disparate as Wilco and
Garbage.
And here it is a quarter-century and five presidents later, and
Stephens -- now forty-six years old -- finds himself behind the
very same drum kit he used when Big Star were touring as the
opening act for Badfinger (Badfinger!), and
Carl Douglas' novelty number "Kung Fu Fighting"
was cranking from AM radios everywhere. Only Stephens' new band
ain't no opening act. It's Golden Smog, the
roots-rock, alt-country supergroup side project comprised of
Jeff Tweedy (Wilco), Marc Perlman
and Gary Louris (Jayhawks), Dan Murphy (Soul
Asylum) and Kraig Johnson (Run Westy
Run).
As Golden Smog were about to hit the road in support of their third
album, Weird Tales (Rykodisc),
Rolling Stone Network caught up with Stephens in his
natural habitat: co-managing Ardent Studios in
Memphis, which, not coincidentally, was also the recording locale
for each of Big Star's studio efforts. Besides recording and
performing with Golden Smog, Stephens is keeping himself busy in
other ways these days: He's producing as well as playing on a
forthcoming Big Star tribute album, Big Star Small World,
that's slated for release early next year. And then, of course,
there's always his day job.
So you're at Ardent Studios right now?
Yeah. I co-manage it with John Fry, the man who
mixed the Big Star records. There's a lot of history here. It's the
same building we recorded in, and it can be spooky to walk down the
same halls I was walking down twenty-eight years ago. But it can be
comforting, too.
From this vantage point, what do you make of the belated
celebration of Big Star as one of those bedrock influences like the
Velvet Underground or the Stooges?
It's funny, because when I started here in '87 the Replacements
were here doing the Pleased To Meet Me album with
Jim Dickinson, who played on our last record. And
it was really interesting because I didn't know about all the bands
that had known about us. It wasn't until years and years later that
I talked with Paul Westerberg.
Back in 1972, when #1 Record came out, did you
have any inkling about how you would -- or wouldn't -- be received?
I'm thinking about the dominant bands of the day -- Led Zeppelin,
Pink Floyd, the Stones. Not a lot of bands were doing what you guys
were doing at the time. Did you know instinctively that you were
onto something?
We didn't have much of an audience when those records were first
released. I think our first record sold 4,000 copies. And it
was different than what a lot of other people were doing,
with the exception of bands like the Raspberries. With the
exception of the first song ["Feel"], it wasn't a very commercially
slick record. It wasn't maybe what commercial radio wanted to hear.
And our second record [Radio City] was very edgy for its
time. They were fairly dark records wrapped in a pop package. Maybe
that's what's made them enduring.
Has it been frustrating on some level, knowing that when
they first came out, your albums didn't get a lot of
attention?
No, because being in Big Star has opened the door for a lot of
opportunities, and part of that is getting to be a part of Golden
Smog -- and it makes my job here at Ardent easier, because a lot of
people who otherwise might not have heard of us want to come here
and record because of those records and the way they sound. If I
were selling insurance -- not that that's a bad thing -- but if I
were doing something I hated, I might be bitter. But given that
I've got a great job and I'm still in the business doing what I
love, I'm not bitter about it at all.
How does it feel to be playing with musicians who all, in
one way or another, have referenced your work with Big Star and
used that band as a kind of model? Do you get the sense that these
guys see you as an elder statesman and an icon . . . that they're
looking up to you?
Well, it's more of a case of me looking up to them. These guys are
really amazing songwriters, and to me that's really the focus of
the music -- the song. If I had been the primary songwriter in Big
Star it might have been a different situation. I'm just enjoying
the fun of being in this band and the fellowship that comes with
being a part of this band. As soon as I walked in the room, I
immediately felt a sense of togetherness between those guys -- and
I felt like I belonged.
What was it about Golden Smog that drew you in, that made
you want to play in a band again?
I had a great desire to feel like belonging again. I love playing
drums and to be part of a band is to be a part of something
special. And it's an awesome feeling. To me, music should be fun. I
have a gig at Ardent and get a regular paycheck, so I don't need to
go out and make a living playing music. So for me, it's not a
struggle to play music. Physically, it can be a struggle
(laughs).
JONATHAN PERRY(December 17, 1998)
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