Regardless, Spencer's been delivering the goods this year. For one,
he polished off ACME, a down 'n' dirty rock record that
hit the streets on Oct. 21. More importantly, he and his wife, Boss
Hog frontwoman Christina Martinez, brought little Charley Spencer
into the world, a child far too young to understand the splendor of
his gene pool.
Spencer also landed himself in the Rolling Stone blues
issue, alongside such greats as Muddy Waters and Keith Richards, an
honor which spurred the paranoia that resulted in the new single
"Talk About the Blues." The song finds Spencer answering his
critics with the lines, "I ain't singing the blues/I sing rock
& roll."
Nonetheless, the song is the catchiest cut off the album, and the
video may have the winning ticket that sends the Blues Explosion
into MTVs Buzz Bin: Winona Ryder doing a mean Spencer
impersonation. From the tousled hair to the bulging eyes to
slapping the ground while on all fours, Hollywood's favorite waif
goes all out in the name of rock & roll.
But the man who's known to go all-out himself has surprisingly
side-stepped the limelight with ACME. With less theatrical
songs, fewer trademark yelps and a handful of unexpected fatherhood
references, America's favorite new rock & roll daddy says "it
was time to shit or get off the pot."
Was the song "Talk About the Blues" intended to blast
Rolling Stone for classifying you as a blues artist, or
was it just to clarify it?
The song is more of a reaction to the criticism the band received
over the past couple of years. People accusing us of being racist
or a lot of bad stuff. I was thrilled to death to be a part of the
blues issue. I just got so nervous about being interviewed because
I'd caught so much flak about being in a band called the Blues
Explosion. And the interview was fine. Then a couple of days later
I was in the studio and that came out as an improv. So, maybe I'm
blasting Rolling Stone a little bit. The blues issue and
that interview was the hook because it was a recent event. More
than anything it was just a statement of intent.
How has this criticism affected you?
It was stuff that I didn't agree with, and it was very upsetting to
me. I'm afraid to take a step now because of people calling me all
sorts of names and the worst is the race stuff and it's fucked up.
It goes to show that rock & roll is still dangerous. Maybe
people get confused or upset by the Blues Explosion because it's
kind of funny, kind of crazy and it's out there. But it's also
dangerous music because rock & roll is the thing that broke
down the barriers between races and between classes.
So you don't agree that you have to be a homegrown Southern
boy to play the blues?
Fuck no, why? It's music, not agriculture. Then why is f---ing Mick
Jagger embraced? I have no problem with Mick Jagger or the Rolling
Stones, it's just that English people playing blues music are held
up as heroes by the American press, but we're fucking taken to the
cleaners for it. We're American, if anything it should be more than
okay, that's our culture. I think what we do is very true to
ourselves. And, yes, the Blues Explosion is influenced by blues,
but we're also influenced by rap, soul, punk and country. There's
lots of different influences, but the thing that drives the band --
and that is the heart of it -- is rock & roll.
Was it your idea to cast Winona Ryder as yourself in the
new video "Talk About the Blues," and what did you think of her
impersonation?
It was my idea to have actors portraying the band, but I didn't
cast Winona Ryder. She knew the director, Evan Bernard. I think it
turned out great. It's kind of difficult for me to watch anybody
pretending to be me. She did a good job. I think she's a fan of the
band and I hope she likes the Blues Explosion (laughs). I've never
met her. The actors were filmed in Los Angeles and the Blues
Explosion was filmed in New York City.
How has your life changed now that you're a
dad?
In some ways I've given up my life. It may sound kind of grim, but
I don't mean it that way. I'm just trying to convey such a complete
and total change, or at least it was for me. It's forced me to
confront a lot of things about who I am or where I'm from. In a lot
of ways, some things I know about, some things I'm still not sure
about or I'm still figuring out or I don't really understand. I do
think it was a huge influence on me for this record, much more than
any music that I listen to.
And so does Jon Spencer change diapers? Are you totally
involved?
Yeah, it's been more than a year since we've been touring much, and
I've been home raising a baby. My wife and I are the ones doing it.
I did an interview with a Japanese woman and she couldn't believe
that I was changing diapers. My wife and I wanted to have a child
and so, along with that, there comes a lot to do, a lot of
responsibility. And not all of it's fun and happy stuff, there's
some things that are very, very scary, but I'm very happy.
What are your thoughts on the accusations that your
showiness and theatrical vibe takes away from the
music?
I took a step back on the songs that are on the record. They're not
as theatrical or goofy. And live, people didn't come there to see
me get up in a T-shirt and stand there looking at my feet. There's
a way that I think rock & roll should be and that's what the
Blues Explosion is all about. It's not just the record, it's the
show as well. I think you need to have a little sparkle, a little
something special. You're up on stage. Some people might bitch
about it, but most people want somebody up there bigger than
life.
LIZA GHORBANI
(October 29, 1998)
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